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tchrist

6:02 PM

If I could superping @@balpha, I could summon him, but I’m sure he’ll figure it out.

Damkerng T.

@Cerberus Obviously, I'm one of the 26.29 bar.

Cerberus

@DamkerngT. So am I, yay!

Long live XP!

Damkerng T.

Yay! :D

Cerberus

@tchrist True.

Sorry, I had to remember the dead.

Remembrance Day.

tchrist

El Día de los Muertos no cae hasta el primer día de noviembre.

en cuyo día los recordamos.

Maybe there are two remembers. Remember remember the Fifth of November. . .

Cerberus

6:14 PM

El día cae heute.

Tomorrow is Liberation Day.

tchrist

checks his kalendar

Matt Эллен

Cinco de Mayo!

Cerberus

That's Liberation Day here...what is it in Spain again?

The presidents of the upper and lower houses are now dedicating a wreath on the Dam.

Matt Эллен

Yo no se

Cerberus

Turns out they are both women, who knew?

Matt Эллен

6:15 PM

I just know they celebrate it

@Cerberus they did, I'm sure

they check every morning

Cerberus

Probably!

With their toy boys.

Matt Эллен

!!wiki cinco de mayo

KitSox

Cinco de Mayo

Cinco de Mayo (Spanish for "fifth of May") is a celebration held on May 5. It is celebrated in the United States and in Mexico, primarily in the state of Puebla, where the holiday is called El Día de la Batalla de Puebla (English: The Day of the Battle of Puebla). It originated with Mexican-American communities in the American West as a way to commemorate the cause of freedom and democracy during the first years of the American Civil War, and today the date is observed in the United States as a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride. In the state of Puebla, the date is observed to ...

Cerberus

Did you know that?

Matt Эллен

I did not

Cerberus

6:17 PM

OK.

It's about Mexico, but about the American Civil War?

tchrist

Nothing on my calendar, although tomorrow is some nonsense “Early May Bank Holiday” in the UK.

And of course, today is la víspera del Cinco de Mayo.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus Traditions don't have to make sense!

Cerberus

True.

Matt Эллен

@tchrist yup. Bank holidays all round!

tchrist

Pas ici.

Matt Эллен

6:18 PM

@Cerberus Nor does wikipedia ;)

@tchrist I suppose someone has to work while we laze in the sun

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Maybe a bit more.

@MattЭллен Americans work much harder than we do.

tchrist

@MattЭллен Sun? England? ¡Mentiroso tú!

Cerberus

Yeah, what was that about??

Matt Эллен

@tchrist I know! It's been a lovely weekend, so I expect rain from Tuesday onward

Cerberus

Although, actually, even Holland has been sunny today.

So then surely England must be sunny.

tchrist

6:21 PM

@MattЭллен “Lovely” How lovely, eh?

As lovely as 81 degrees at 08% humidity lovely?

Matt Эллен

NEARLY THE SAME

I don't know about numbers. Sunny, not too cloudy. Comfortably warm

Cerberus

It is their heretical temperature scale.

Burn it!

tchrist

Matt Эллен

!!weather oxford

KitSox

@MattЭллен Oxford: 14.14C (287.29K), sky is clear

tchrist

6:24 PM

@Cerberus The humidity is in metric, just for you.

Cerberus

!!weather amsterdam

KitSox

@Cerberus Amsterdam: 12.8C (285.95K), Sky is Clear

Matt Эллен

you have Sky! I only have sky

Cerberus

Muwahaha.

tchrist

You are FREEZING TO DEATH!!!!

Cerberus

6:24 PM

Skynet!

Matt Эллен

:-o

Cerberus

Yes, it's pretty cold.

@tchrist It was 20+ in March.

tchrist

Cerberus

@tchrist But let me teach you about temperatures. Freezing occurs at 0 degrees. See how easy that is?

@MattЭллен should do something about Oxford's visibility.

tchrist

It’s more than 20 degrees warmer here than there, and your humidity is positively sultry at more than 7x ours.

Matt Эллен

6:26 PM

@Cerberus It's a city of ninja

tchrist

@Cerberus Let me teach you about temperatures. Freezing of brine occurs at 0 degrees. See how easy that is?

Cerberus

How can you look 9999.0 miles backward?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus ninja

Cerberus

@tchrist Who uses brine?

tchrist

@Cerberus They’re looking at their shoes again.

Cerberus

6:27 PM

@MattЭллен Impressive.

tchrist

@Cerberus Picklers. Road salters.

@tchrist What?

yup

Typical.

@tchrist Temperatures that cold are exceedlingly rare here...

Matt Эллен

6:28 PM

@tchrist leading to rain on Tuesday

tchrist

Bad week to be in Oxford.

Matt Эллен

there have been worse

Cerberus

You think the woman with dark hair it hot?

tchrist

And it gets so cold there at night!

Cerberus

Ow too late.

It was 3 degree last night.

tchrist

6:29 PM

sings Frosty the Snowman

It’s been falling into the 50s here at night.

So still 20 degrees warmer than your icy clime.

And I have more than a mile of elevation on you, too. The shame!

No thanks!

Cerberus

Yeah, well, I like these temperatures all right.

Matt Эллен

well, you also had all the crazy cold earlier in the year. it's just reaching us now

Cerberus

I'd rather have 13 degrees in April than freezing in January!

tchrist

@Cerberus Fibber!

You have freezing right now.

35 is tantamount to freezing.

Cerberus

We don't?

Besides, I care less about freezing at night.

tchrist

6:32 PM

And with the wind-chill, it absolutely is. You could die!!

Cerberus

I'd prefer 18 degrees 24/7, every day of the year.

tchrist

Bah.

Cerberus

I even had drinks outside last night.

tchrist

Then get a cave.

Cerberus

But I have to admit it was cold.

tchrist

6:33 PM

Troglodytes would be proud.

Cerberus

The café had heaters outside, but still.

Matt Эллен

heater*

Cerberus

We're practically troglodytes anyway.

Matt Эллен

unless you mean bushes

:D

Cerberus

Heh.

tchrist

6:34 PM

I’m in shorts and t-shirt and barefoot.

Go ahead, you do that outside. I dares ya!

Matt Эллен

I'm in t-shirt, trousers and flipflops

Cerberus

I did.

Matt Эллен

oh, no, not outside

Cerberus

I went to the supermarket in a t-shirt and shorts.

tchrist

Really???

Cerberus

6:34 PM

I had been running.

tchrist

Pix or it didn’t happen.

Cerberus

But the supermarket was closed because of dead people.

I have no pictures.

I was sweating.

tchrist

Then you are dead.

And it is your fault about the supermarket.

Cerberus

Not I, people during WW2.

tchrist

Who the hell closes a supermarket?

Today is not Christmas.

Cerberus

6:35 PM

Everyone wants to be silent at 20.00.

tchrist

So there is no excuse for your regressive blue laws.

Cerberus

So it closed at 19.00.

Matt Эллен

I didn't realise how late it was

Cerberus

It is out of respect for the dead.

tchrist

Oh how fine, a gag law.

That sure works well.

Cerberus

6:36 PM

We maintain absolute silence between 20.00 and 20.02.

tchrist

By law.

Fascists.

Cerberus

Probably not by law.

No law is necessary.

Matt Эллен

If I'm ever pointlessly wealthy, I shall build myself one of those absolute silence rooms.

tchrist

Then why have they closed the supermarkets to you?

Feels like Belgium.

Matt Эллен

well, get someone else to build it

Cerberus

6:37 PM

Out of respect.

Matt Эллен

for me

tchrist

That’s like forcing people to tithe the church by law.

Matt Эллен

no it's not

Cerberus

I don't think anyone is forced.

tchrist

Neither of you is going to see room temperature this week.

Matt Эллен

6:38 PM

it's like putting money on the collection plate

tchrist

Meanwhile, I have beach temperatures.

Nuff said.

Cerberus

It is of course not religious.

Matt Эллен

well. I'll see it in a room

tchrist

Sure it is.

Matt Эллен

but not outside

Cerberus

6:38 PM

It is order to remember those who died in WW2 and in order not to repeat the same mistakes.

tchrist

@MattЭллен Not in insular England. Since when do you have insulation?

Matt Эллен

outside it will be BST weather

or as we call it "You call this summer?"

tchrist

No, I call it spring.

And just barely.

Matt Эллен

I didn't think you got spring, just an eternal battle between winter and summer :D

tchrist

Quote myself at me, why doncha?

Matt Эллен

6:40 PM

;)

tchrist

Today we have youths coursing the meadow paths clad in little more than Speedos.

They pass behind my house as in a processional.

Isn’t that delightful?

Matt Эллен

I suppose. Youths feeling free to be youthful

tchrist

Those of the mammary persuasion admittedly have the narrowest strips of keepemfromfloppins attached, but you barely notice the coverings.

I love the smell of hormones in the air.

Matt Эллен

lol

I'm sure there's a story about that in this week's New Scientist

Cerberus

I am looking at the youth of Theresienstadt now.

Matt Эллен

6:48 PM

Scent of a man

Cerberus

The ones that still looked healthy were cast as extras in a propaganda film, to show how concentration camps were not that bad.

The other ones were shipped to be destroyed at Auschwitz in a hurry.

After the completion of the film, all healthy children were also killed at Auschwitz except a handful.

tchrist

@MattЭллен Yes, I had just read that yesterdayishly.

Toss your flags, chillins:

-2

Q: more spam deleted

spam deleted and awaiting final destruction

spam

-5

Q: BLACK MAGIC spam

[ content removed ] Please flag as spam and downvote.

expressions

-8

Q: More astrology spam

[Spam redacted awaiting moderators]

expressions

Matt Эллен

one down two to go

Cerberus

Yay!

I have done what I can.

The middle one didn't seem to have any close votes yet?

Matt Эллен

I don't bother with close votes. flags should happen too fast for closure. and closing doesn't change anything

Jez

6:59 PM

@StackExchange this isn't much of a limerick

Cerberus

@MattЭллен After closure, they can be deleted.

How fast do flags happen?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus flags autodelete

Cerberus

Oh, right...how many?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus faster than close votes, I think, because you don't have to have close vote privileges

@Cerberus 6, I think

Cerberus

Oh OK.

And do the flags all have to say "spam"?

Matt Эллен

7:01 PM

I don't know. probably

it would make sense that they'd all have to be the same flag type to trigger autodelete. and that only works for spam or "offensive" anyway

Cerberus

Hmm.

Matt Эллен

Jez didn't like what I wrote
My limerick just got his goat
He wrote down in text
That he felt very vexed
So I hope that he sees I took note

tchrist

-7

Q: please throw a spam flag at this AND downvote

spam deleted awaiting final death

anastrophe

I hate how they assault us on Sundays.

Anonymous

I helped flag two spams last night. This one I was too late for.

Anonymous

It seems like ELU gets more spam than the smaller sites I'm used to

Matt Эллен

7:16 PM

It must work to some power law

Cerberus

7:35 PM

But we don't get that much spam?

It's like, an event!

Matt Эллен

that much spam doesn't get through the filter

I bet all SE sites get tonnes of spam

-3

Q: More black magic spam

[Spam deleted. Please flag as spam and downvote.]

meaning

although, if people downvote, it will be removed from the front page before enough eyes get on it to flag it to oblivion

and if they edit it then the learning algorithm of the spam filter learns the wrong things

or so I'm told

33

Q: Dealing with spam

With our recent spate of spam, a few reminders on how best to deal with it: First and foremost, please flag as spam. That's the first option when you open up the spam dialog, and that will delete the post once six spam flags are reached. This means that spam can be dealt even when moderators ar...

discussion spam

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Then the learning algorithm should look only at the original version. That shouldn't be hard to implement.

Anonymous

@MattЭллен I helped with this one! It's at -10

Anonymous

-11! Oh, that's fun.

Matt Эллен

:D

@Cerberus yes, I thought that when I read the rule

Cerberus

7:45 PM

@MattЭллен Right, because I think removing the spam text immediately as one sees it is desirable.

Matt Эллен

one would think so

Anonymous

@Cerberus Yeah. If it really breaks the spam filter, then that's a bug in the filter, not a problem with the behavior of users editing the posts

Cerberus

@snailboat Exactly!

Matt Эллен

9:17 PM

homage

tchrist

9:39 PM

hommidge

ohmahzh

tchrist

9:51 PM

I’m virtually certain that homage used to end like porridge or damage, but now it ends like mirage or décolletage, and the leading h has gone mute.

Cuz why?

Cerberus

10:15 PM

You think so?