English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

meer2kat

12:08 PM

yummm

Sandeep Dhamija

anybody there? I have a question.

meer2kat

hi!

Sandeep Dhamija

@meer2kat Hi! Could you clarify a doubt that I have in my mind regarding prepositions?

meer2kat

@SandeepDhamija possibly?

Mitch

@Robusto You mean 'she'. She has a really great strip mall.

Sandeep Dhamija

12:14 PM

@meer2kat I'm wondering why there is a preposition in sentence- "The hills here are covered with wildflowers IN early spring." Isn't "early spring" an adverbial phrase? As in "I'll go there NEXT WEEK"

Mitch

"I'll go there next spring" is correct.

"The hills are covered in spring" is correct.

(using or not using respectively in those is wrong)

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat Have you listened to the song?

meer2kat

@SandeepDhamija In this sentence, "in" is used sort of as a replacement for "during". I'll go there next spring works, but this sentence requires "in" to specify when the hills are covered. The hills here are covered with wildflowers DURING early spring. These two sentences can be used interchangeably. It's a sort of timekeeper, if you will. Does that make sense?

Matt Эллен

yesterday, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

prepositions are so hard.

Mitch

@KitFox "The yoozh"? Are you Miss Jas?

meer2kat

12:19 PM

@JasperLoy Ugh I'm a terrible human being cries

Mitch

@JasperLoy There's a song "Possibly"?

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat Hehe, I knew it! LOL!

Mitch

please answer 'possibly'

Jasper Loy

@Mitch No.

Mitch

Dang.

Jasper Loy

12:20 PM

Oh, 2 of my answers got migrated to ELL, so I joined ELL as well.

Mitch

Might as well.

Matt Эллен

Possibly as well

meer2kat

@SandeepDhamija Early spring is a time that is very different from "next week". I hope this helps!

Mitch

!!jinx

KitSox

@Mitch I didn't understand that. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

meer2kat

12:21 PM

!!norris

KitSox

@meer2kat Chuck Norris just says "no" to drugs. If he said "yes", it would collapse Colombia's infrastructure.

Mitch

!!what the hell are you talking about?

KitSox

@Mitch No definition found.

Sandeep Dhamija

@meer2kat but "I'll go there early spring" won't work. Why is that?

Matt Эллен

!!are you talking about what the hell?

KitSox

12:21 PM

@MattЭллен No

Mitch

!!I am talking about 'what thehell'

KitSox

@Mitch Not at all

Mitch

!!then have some tea and toast. it'll make you feel better

KitSox

@Mitch I don't understand. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Mitch

!!no worrries

KitSox

12:22 PM

@Mitch That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Matt Эллен

!!now you're just being rude

KitSox

@MattЭллен I didn't understand that. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Matt Эллен

!!tell kitsox listcommands

KitSox

@kitsox help, listen, eval, coffee, refresh, forget, info, lego, legopart, nuke, nsa, nano, wordwar, listcommands, tell, afk, awsm, ban, unban, color, convert, define, doge, domain, findcommand, github, google, hang, inhistory, jquery, learn, keister, t, live, die, mdn, meme, mustache, norris, nudge, parse, spec, stat, stats, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, urban, user, weather, welcome, wiki, xkcd, youtube, zalgo (page 0/0)

Mitch

In away I'm sorta glad of the minimalist nonresponses. What will be the point of anything once the bot responds well always.

Matt Эллен

12:23 PM

You'd have to ask the bot

Jasper Loy

Let us not abuse the bot.

Mitch

poor bot. always beeng mistreated.

meer2kat

@SandeepDhamija I've heard people say that before, actually. I'm not sure if it's officially correct in the grammar books but I can fully understand the meaning. It's really that particular sentence that needs "in". I believe a more correct version of your second version will be "I'll go there early in spring," or "I'll go there in early spring". "Next" is asking in which spring you will go.

Matt Эллен

!!zalgo I'm not listening

KitSox

@MattЭллен I̢͢'̢̠͍̦̺̌ͭ͠m̸̸̺̩͆ͯ́́͘ͅ ̢̣̓́ͯ͛̆͘͢ń́̇͛̐҉̧͏̺́̕o̞͍͈̠͈̻̝̎̆̇̏̒t̟̗̭͔̻̭ͫ̏̓ ̧̢̠͕̻̒ͯ͌̄́̑̂l̳̩ͭ̌̀́́͠i̧̧̨̧̻̣͓͈͙̞͍ͤ͑͠ś̫̗̯̬̹͖̐ͫ͐ͮ͛̈́t̗̯͇ͩ́ͅe̶̝̥̬̱̬̎̐ͨ͑͂͠͝n̸̢̤̤̄ͮ̀͝‌̰̜͚̼i̞̔͌̀n̴̛̻͇͉̗̟̖̓ͪͨ̉ͩ̈́ͤ̀g͕̯̘͙͚̹̲͞

Jasper Loy

12:24 PM

@SandeepDhamija You should just post your question on the site for better answers.

Mitch

@MattЭллен I heard that.

meer2kat

@SandeepDhamija Where as "early spring" is a time within springtime.

that really does look like a bunch of gibberish right? it's not just my screen

Mitch

@meer2kat Yeah, I think it is supposed to look like gibberish

Matt Эллен

prepositions are idosyncratic. there aren't really rules for them.

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat Might depend on the fonts installed on your computer. I see gibberish too.

meer2kat

12:26 PM

!!WHY U NO MAKE SENSE

KitSox

@meer2kat That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

meer2kat

lolz

Matt Эллен

!!tell meer2kat zalgo I don't know what you mean

Sandeep Dhamija

@meer2kat thanks alot :)

KitSox

Server error (status 500) occured (message probably too long)

Mitch

12:26 PM

@MattЭллен Or there are lots of rules but lots of exceptions to those and exceptions to exceptions etc... turtles, infinite hotels, etc

meer2kat

!!tell mitch hello

KitSox

@meer2kat Command hello does not exist. Did you mean: help, tell

meer2kat

darn

Matt Эллен

!!say something

KitSox

@MattЭллен Were you trying to invoke me? Use the !!/help command to learn more.

meer2kat

12:27 PM

!!define aluminum

KitSox

@meer2kat aluminum A metallic chemical element (

Mitch

!!tell mitch tell

KitSox

@Mitch Command tell cannot be used in /tell.

meer2kat

!!define aluminium

KitSox

@meer2kat aluminium A light, silvery metal extracted from bauxite, and a chemical element (

meer2kat

12:27 PM

!!wiki aluminium

Mitch

@KitSox so close to the singularity.

KitSox

Aluminium

Aluminium (or aluminum; see spelling differences) is a chemical element in the boron group with symbol Al and atomic number 13. It is a silvery white, soft, ductile metal. Aluminium is the third most abundant element (after oxygen and silicon), and the most abundant metal, in the Earth's crust. It makes up about 8% by weight of the Earth's solid surface. Aluminium metal is so chemically reactive that native specimens are rare and limited to extreme reducing environments. Instead, it is found combined in over 270 different minerals. The chief ore of aluminium is bauxite. Alu...

@MattЭллен Something.

meer2kat

!!is it aluminum or aluminium?

KitSox

@meer2kat aluminium

2

Matt Эллен

yes!

meer2kat

12:28 PM

wow, well that's settled!

Mitch

@KitSox "Something"? Something what?

KitSox

high fives @Matt

meer2kat

@MattЭллен hahaha we win!!

Mitch

What's wrong with taunting the bot?

Matt Эллен

@KitSox high fives back

Jasper Loy

12:28 PM

Aluminum is AmE and aluminium is BrE.

Matt Эллен

Aluminium is also international

Mitch

So you're saying Brits are wrong?

meer2kat

@JasperLoy shhh kitsox agrees with us. we're right :)

@Mitch Brits do everything right but food :)

Mitch

@MattЭллен wow and along with the rest of the world?

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat Rather, I agree with the bot, so the bot is right, lol.

meer2kat

12:29 PM

@JasperLoy amen

Mitch

@meer2kat They do some food that is right.

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat When was that photo taken?

Mitch

thinking

meer2kat

@JasperLoy 2 years ago

@Mitch like?

Mitch

still thinking

Matt Эллен

12:30 PM

toad in the hole

roast dinner

cakes

Mitch

ugh no that is wrong.

Matt Эллен

pies

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat And you grew fatter since then right?

Matt Эллен

@Mitch it's so right, you don't even know

Mitch

fried mars bars

Matt Эллен

12:30 PM

chocolate

KitFox

@Mitch Miss Jas is Jasmine.

meer2kat

can kitfox take over the kitsox bot manually?

KitFox

Hi.

Matt Эллен

Hi.

Mitch

(if you count that as british and not primarily scottish

meer2kat

12:31 PM

@JasperLoy where the hell did that come from?

@KitFox hi :)

Mitch

@KitFox Oh. From Aladdin?

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat Hehe, I think you said you put on 2 pounds or something.

meer2kat

@JasperLoy the freshman 15 did get me, yeah.

Mitch

@JasperLoy wow. really?

KitFox

@Mitch No, from Bangor, I think.

RegDwigнt

12:32 PM

@Mahnax obviously, you've never been to Marriott.

Sep 12 '13 at 18:13, by RegDwighт

Mitch

@KitFox ha ha. I don't remember a Disney movie like that.

KitFox

@RegDwigнt Why do you have to do that?

meer2kat

@JasperLoy kinda rude to ask though. by kinda i mean a lot.

KitFox

He was joking.

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat Oh, I am sorry.

meer2kat

12:32 PM

@RegDwigнt because that's how to remember them. smh

Mitch

@RegDwigнt goes to get self coffee in empty gesture of remembrance

KitFox

absently stacks tower of creamers

Jasper Loy

@meer2kat Anyway, I have put on 10 kg in the past year, lol.

meer2kat

@JasperLoy k

KitFox

thecodinglove.com/post/51736558987/…

Matt Эллен

12:35 PM

yeah

KitFox

What was I doing this morning?

meer2kat

momma's hooked on mary kay, brother's hooked on mary jane, daddy's hooked on mary two doors down. mary, mary quite contrary, we get bored so we get married, just like dust we settle in this town, on this broken merry go round and round and round we go. where it stops nobody knows.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox eating breakfast

KitFox

I did that already.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox so that's actually an example of it working better than you expected.

meer2kat

12:35 PM

@KitFox going to the diner?

KitFox

Been there already.

@RegDwigнt I know, right?

RegDwigнt

And faster, too.

Matt Эллен

And automatically

meer2kat

@KitFox Being awesome? That's what I do in the morning

KitFox

Really?

I'm awesome all the time.

5

meer2kat

12:37 PM

@KitFox It's a good plan for life

@KitFox :D

KitFox

I have had a lot of practice though.

meer2kat

@KitFox Practice makes perfect ;)

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен yeah no shit, it obviously has nothing to do with him digging there. I keep looking out for a tank or a semi on top of that hill, that can be the only explanation.

meer2kat

!!wiki kinkajou

KitSox

Kinkajou

The kinkajou (Potos flavus) is a rainforest mammal of the family Procyonidae related to olingos, coatis, raccoons, and the ringtail and cacomistle. It is the only member of the genus Potos and is also known as the "honey bear" (a name that it shares with the sun bear). Kinkajous may be mistaken for ferrets or monkeys, but are not closely related to either. Native to Central America and South America, this mostly frugivorous, arboreal mammal is not an endangered species, though it is seldom seen by people because of its strict nocturnal habits. However, they are hunted for the pet trade, fo...

KitFox

12:38 PM

@RegDwigнt It looks like an earth mover. You can see a little bit of something there.

meer2kat

my favorite animal :D i'm feeling random today, sorry :)

RegDwigнt

You say mover, I say tank. Things are about to be called off.

Whole things.

Matt Эллен

gosh!

KitFox

Wow.

Jasper Loy

I think I will hang out more on ELL. Easier to get points there, lol.

tchrist

12:44 PM

kinkajou /ˈkɪŋkədʒuː/. Also 8 kincajou.

Etymology: a. Fr. quincajou (Denis 1672), from N. American Indian: cf. Algonquin Kwingwaage, Otchipwe gwingwaage, the wolverine. The same word orig. as carcajou, which is still applied to the wolverine; but erroneously transferred by Buffon to the quadruped indicated below. (J. Platt, in N. & Q. 9th s. VII. 386, 18 May 1901.)

A carnivorous quadruped (Cercoleptes caudivolvulus) of Central and South America, allied to the racoon; it is about the size of the common cat, has a prehensile tail, and is nocturnal in its habits. Also called potto or honey-b…

Matt Эллен

are cat tails prehensile?

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy you can get a point for every lol if you replace every lol you use as a point with an actual point.

Matt Эллен

lol

RegDwigнt

That's OVER 18400 points in this room alone.

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt Ah, good thinking!

tchrist

12:45 PM

@MattЭллен A ring-tailed cat’s tail is prehensile.

meer2kat

@tchrist Um, they forgot to mention that they're adorable?

Matt Эллен

@tchrist I see.

KitFox

Hack group tonight. I would kind of like to go.

Matt Эллен

I'm going

tchrist

@meer2kat I’ve little personal experience with kinkajoux.

KitFox

12:47 PM

I would be more motivated if the response hadn't been "Yay! We could use some vulvas!"

Jasper Loy

Vulva? Geezis.

tchrist

Sorry, I only have an Audi.

Matt Эллен

ewww. yeah, that's very off putting

they didn't even say "women"

just your body part

Jasper Loy

So I could change my username before 30 days was up because I created a new account, lol.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Oh. Well, Yeah, they did.

meer2kat

12:49 PM

Matt Эллен

I don't think that's the right sort of hacking

KitFox

I substituted how I felt.

Matt Эллен

oh :D

KitFox

I am getting really tired of the assumption that my ladyparts are somehow vital to my contributions.

tchrist

If they want more pussy, send in the cats. There ought to be cats.

RegDwigнt

12:50 PM

@KitFox Well. You'd be dead without them. So they are.

KitFox

Uh, no I wouldn't.

meer2kat

@tchrist I got to hang out with one once. They're adorable and rather sweet

Jasper Loy

@KitFox I imagine ladies' fingers sprouting out from you.

KitFox

The sweet or the vegetable?

RegDwigнt

@KitFox depends on the doctor of course. And your insurance.

Jasper Loy

12:50 PM

@KitFox Vegetable.

KitFox

I don't need insurance; I'm rich now.

meer2kat

@KitFox True, but we wouldn't be around if it weren't for them. None of us would :) So in some weird, distant, indirect way it's important

tchrist

Ladyfinger (biscuit)

Ladyfingers are light and sweet sponge cakes roughly shaped like a large finger. They are a principal ingredient in many dessert recipes, such as trifles, charlottes, and tiramisu. They are typically soaked in a sugar syrup or liqueur, such as coffee for the tiramisu dessert. They are also commonly given to infants, being soft enough for teething mouths but easy to grasp and firm enough not to fall apart. Name These iconic biscuits have gained many colourful regional names. * In Italy: Savoiardi (meaning "from Savoy") * In Catalonia: Melindro * In France: Boudoirs * In Spain: "Bizcocho...

Anonymous

Does referring to certain religious denominations as "cult" somehow attach a negative stigma?

Matt Эллен

yes

tchrist

12:51 PM

Ya think?

KitFox

@tchrist He was talking about okra.

Matt Эллен

religions are old cults

Jasper Loy

!!wiki ladies' fingers

tchrist

@KitFox Nasty nasty nasty.

KitFox

Cults are new cults.

KitSox

12:51 PM

Lady finger

Lady finger, ladyfinger, or lady's finger may refer to: Food * Ladyfinger (biscuit), light and sweet sponge cakes roughly shaped like a large finger * Lady Finger (cocktail), an alcoholic mixed drink that contains three or more ingredients Biology * Lady's fingers, another name for the okra plant * Ladyfinger cactus, a common name for the cacti Mammillaria elongata or Echinocereus pentalophus * Lady Finger banana, a variety of banana also known as Sucrier, Sugar banana, or Date banana Other uses * "Ladyfingers", a song by Luscious Jackson from their 1999 album Electric Honey * Lady...

Matt Эллен

see how that works?

RegDwigнt

Cunts are old cunts.

KitFox

Damn it. What was I doing? It was something important.

Matt Эллен

not to disparage our religious contingent

meer2kat

@simON yes lol

KitFox

12:52 PM

Oi! That's NSFW here.

Jasper Loy

@simON You should first look up cult in a dictionary of your choice.

RegDwigнt

But you are rich now.

You can just buy yourself another work.

Matt Эллен

!!define cult

KitSox

@MattЭллен cult (offensive, derogatory) A group of people with a religious, philosophical or cultural identity sometimes viewed as a sect, often existing on the margins of society or exploitative towards its members.

meer2kat

lol offensive, derogatory

!!urban cult

KitSox

12:53 PM

@meer2kat [cult](http://cult.urbanup.com/453357) a religious group which promotes worship of a human leader and devotion of one's life to a specific purpose.
Some have members practice certain rituals or follow a set of principle rules. The group usually believes its way is the only correct way to live life, and all non-members are doomed to some horrible fate if they cannot be persuaded to join.

RegDwigнt

Oh my. If cult is offensive, I don't want to know what they say about cunt.

tchrist

Mr Keebler’s elves have no trek with okra, and war upon them without mercy.

Jasper Loy

Perhaps all religions are cults, hmm.

meer2kat

Perhaps all governments are cults, hmm.

Matt Эллен

Perhaps EL&U is a cult!

meer2kat

12:54 PM

:O

RegDwigнt

> milk (offensive): white (racist) water (like vodka, but offensively without alcohol)

meer2kat

mind blown

Anonymous

Cult movie does not mean a bad movie, in-fact the opposite.

tchrist

cult /kʌlt/, sb.

Etymology: ad. L. cultus worship (f. colĕre to attend to, cultivate, respect, etc.), and its Fr. adaptation culte (1611 Cotgr.). Used in 17th c. (? from Latin), and then rarely till the middle of the 19th, when often spelt culte as in French.

1 Worship; reverential homage rendered to a divine being or beings. Obs. (exc. as in sense (def#2)).
2a A particular form or system of religious worship; esp. in reference to its external rites and ceremonies.
2b  Now freq. used attrib. by writers on cultic ritual and the archæology of primitive cults.

meer2kat

!!define cult movie

KitSox

12:55 PM

@meer2kat My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.

meer2kat

Well, that's unfortunate

Matt Эллен

@simON right, but it does imply something derogatory about its fans

RegDwigнt

Passion of the Christ.

meer2kat