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12:01 AM
@MrHen Why do you need some special mechanism built for the system to take a m and make an answer out of it? Nothing is stopping you from doing that. Except for maybe good judgment. Not all comments with answers are worth making a full-fledged answer (and often that is by intention of the comment author). Realistically, the SE developers will put your request way way down on the to-do list (especially since your meta discussion doesn't have much support) and ...
...you'll probably annoy people who've intentionally written information in comments that you've made a real answer out of.
 
It's not that I need a special mechanism. I am asking how to do it.
As in, will EL&U throw a fit if I copy/paste comments into answers.
The vibe seems to be that they won't but a lot of people around here are a bit defensive of their content.
Also, I didn't bother adding lots of support to the meta discussion because I was trying to avoid lengthening the argument. There are quite a few reasons to not post answers in comments.
But that wasn't really the point of the question.
 
If those answers are actually bad, or the question doesn't deserve an answer then maybe. Some individuals might be annoyed by having their comments copied. Pretty reasonable responses.
@MrHen What do you mean 'how to do it?'? How to do it -right-? How to do it -well-? Or how to do it at all?
 
@Mitch "How do you guys want me to handle this?"
 
Oh. Here's my answer..."Do nothing."
 
As in, I want to continue clearing out the Unanswered list and there are a bunch of answers-as-comments in there.
@Mitch That doesn't do what I want, though.
 
12:08 AM
Are those stupid questions? Then downvote or vote to close.
 
@Mitch There is a mix of valid to stupid.
 
@MrHen Then why are you asking us? You don't like our answers. What is it that -you- want to do then?
 
@Mitch I don't have a problem with the answers that were relevant to the question I was trying to ask.
Long story short, I like to clear out questions in the Unanswered list. In that list are some questions that have perfectly valid and detailed answers in the comments.
Being surprised, I decided to ask on Meta how to proceed.
 
So you're saying it's my fault?
And that my ass is fat?
I think the real issue, @MrHen, is that the community has changed significantly, so no one understands your question properly.
Most users these days would think "What? Unanswered questions? Who cares?"
 
@KitFox Yeah, that's fine other than it doesn't really provide me an answer. :)
I'm not asking anyone else to care. :P
 
12:16 AM
@MrHen so what did the meta answers tell you? (yes I read them)
 
@Mitch That no one gives a shit.
And it seems like copy/paste is the way to go.
 
You will get mixed reviews of copy-paste.
 
@MrHen OK. Just copy/paste responsibly, which is hard to do (give credit, judge that it is a good answer, etc)
 
@Mitch Yep. I can certainly do that.
 
I did it some when I got really pissed about the answers-as-comments thing.
 
12:18 AM
@KitFox Well, if they complain I can now link them to the relevant meta discussion. ;)
 
Then I got tired and just started destroying the users who annoyed me too much.
 
@MrHen Except the relevant meta-discussion is pretty sparse.
 
@Mitch And anyone who wants to contest copy/paste can add their thoughts to the discussion and spruce it up.
 
@KitFox KitFox smash.
 
Yes. Very cathartic.
 
12:19 AM
@MrHen You do realize that some questions -should- be left unanswered.
 
@Mitch Which ones?
 
@KitFox Ow...you stepped on my cathartic.
@MrHen particular ones? I don't know....lots! lots that were unfortunately answered anyway.
 
Just give me the list. I'll fix it. gets out eraser
 
@Mitch So... questions that should be unanswered but left open?
 
or should be migrated to ELL or genreffed.
 
12:20 AM
I don't have a problem closing things. :P
 
@MrHen go for it.
 
do it.
do it.
doooo it.
 
@Mitch I do :)
 
do it
 
Well, the Unanswered queue is down to 43 so it's happening.
I voted to close a bunch of those.
Not sure what happened to them (since I stopped caring once they were off the list.)
 
12:28 AM
@tchrist That's terrible. Let's hope for the best. Our atheist prayers are with you.
 
@MrHen Huh. There are 84 in the unanswered tab.
 
@KitFox My screen says 43.
"43 questions with no upvoted answers"
 
My screen says 5
 
Odd
I wonder what the difference is keyed into.
 
"5
questions with no answers"
 
12:33 AM
When I first came back it was around 78.
 
And when I deleted two, I still get 84 under the tab and now 44 in the link.
 
What tab?
Whoa... there are some new links at the end of the review tools...
interesting.
 
@KitFox Wait...are you saying I'm just a community member? I am special. I am unique. Hey are you also looking at my ass? And with a frown not a smile?
stomps off
 
There's a little tiny unanswered "tab" on the All Questions bar, and also a big Unanswered link on the banner.
Just to be confusing.
 
@Mitch You are God's little sunbeam. Yes you are!
 
12:36 AM
@Mitch Come on, baby, don't be like that. You just a whole lotta love.
 
Hi @Rob.
 
@KitFox Howdy.
 
@KitFox Ah, yeah, there we go.
Anyone know what the difference between the two are?
I wonder if it is filtering out negative questions.
 
@Robusto I am? I am.
 
12:38 AM
@Mitch Yes, you are!
 
Isn't it night out?
 
@KitFox shoots a look over shoulder
 
God just chucked @Mitch under the chin. I saw him do it.
 
awww....
shucks.
 
Feels good, don't it?
 
12:40 AM
Well, when God does it...ya know, he doesn't know his own strength!
 
I've got to figure out how to draw a process flow diagram.
whines
 
2
Q: What's the difference between Unanswered and Questions > unanswered?

TyiloWhat's the difference between the button at the top called "Unanswered" and the tab under "Questions" button called "unanswered"? It is not the same answers that appears in both, so they must have a different function.

 
@Mitch Wait, but he's omniscient. Is it possible for an omniscient being to be so strong that he doesn't know his own strength?
@KitFox Does that have to do with the unary tract?
 
ha
ohgodohgodohgod I'm so screwed.
 
So, @KitFox, what happens if I offer you coffee and donuts?
 
12:43 AM
sighs I guess I don't have the energy to be dramatic tonight.
 
You can be Jesus's little sunbeam too, you know.
 
@MrHen Um...those are morning items.
Anyway. Bookmark.
 
I'm having a spot of bother at work too.
The president of the division got a look at the UI I've designed for our new reporting system, loved it, and now everyone is trying to get a piece of it.
 
Oh, it is so tough to be popular and loved.
 
@KitFox You don't understand. I'm now going to wind up having to change it because everyone wants to make it theirs.
 
12:47 AM
@Robusto Classic.
 
When I was in advertising I never won any awards for the big projects, because if they looked like they were going to succeed, everyone wanted to "get involved" by contributing to what inevitably turned out to be a mess. All my awards were for under-the-radar spots that nobody wanted to touch.
 
@Robusto No, I rather meant it. Not ironically.
 
@KitFox But now I have two choices, since I'm new there: I can either accept help and watch the project turn to shit, or refuse it and make enemies.
 
Aikido?
 
Aye, kiddo!
 
12:50 AM
"What great ideas, too bad it's too far along in this cycle to incorporate them. I'll make sure I put it in the queue for the next round!"
bright smile, flash some cleavage
 
@KitFox Yeah, that doesn't work.
 
Cleavage always works.
 
@KitFox That... might.
 
You could try being proactive and offering false choices.
 
@KitFox 合気道. It uses the characters for "fitting in" and "energy" and "way": the way of getting your energy to fit in. I never had it.
 
12:52 AM
"Hey, Brad, I'm feeling a little gunshy because I'm new. Which do you think is better, this choice that's great or this other choice that's great?"
@Robusto Creative deflection.
 
@KitFox The UI Architect sent me a wireframe that is 180 degrees away from the direction I went. So, too late.
 
Fuck, dude.
How about engage and redirect?
 
@KitFox But, speaking of Brad . . .
 
I prefer delegation and blame.
 
"I saw your latest wireframe. Really creative. It's a bit different than the concept I had in mind. Can you tell me what inspired you?"
@Robusto Yeah, it was by accident, but as soon as I typed Brad, I thought of that.
 
12:55 AM
Sheesh. You are a shoe in for middle management.
 
@KitFox She sprang it on me at the end of the day in a meeting. "Did you get the wireframe I sent you?" I was at work at 6:30 a.m. and this was like 4:30, and I didn't have the wit to lie and say no. So I tried to say "We'll talk." But she pushed it. And it went downhill from there.
 
@MrHen Got my fingers crossed.
Although I don't know if business systems analyst counts as middle management.
Good god. Re-reading my crap, I wonder how anyone can stand to work with me.
 
@MrHen Is that better than a shoo-in?
 
Oh right. Nobody does actually work with me.
Fuck. Diagram.
 
@Robusto Not really.
 
1:00 AM
@KitFox But everyone who does loves you.
 
@Robusto So... nobody?
 
@MrHen I'm trying to put a positive spin on this.
 
@Robusto Ah.
 
Why you gotta be like that?
Hey, did I tell you that my project lead quit?
 
No.
I thought we were dealing with my problems.
 
1:02 AM
Gave a week's notice and changed jobs but stayed in the University. And his wife is still working here.
 
@Robusto zackly.
 
@Robusto Hey, I've already made three helpful suggestions.
All I have left to suggest is booze.
 
@KitFox Well, I've already tried booze and wound up here.
 
I'm sorry. OK, well. You're tall, white, and male. You're also talented. You can probably afford enemies.
 
you forgot cleavage.
 
1:06 AM
On the other hand, you've already impressed the one guy, and he's experienced enough to know that others will be the ones pooching your design.
 
@KitFox But I don't want any grief. Seriously, if I wanted politics I'd have stayed in advertising.
@Mitch I'm sorry, what were you saying? I was staring at Kit's cleavage.
 
as in he can probably afford cleavage too.
 
So you are going to agree to all my demands, right?
 
nods vacantly
 
Right. I forgot. I have to turn it off before I ask the question.
It's your first project. It's a good place to set boundaries, but not a good place to fight battles.
 
1:12 AM
Yeah. It may be moot, because there's a short fuse on this thing. I have to have the first part to QA in six weeks.
But stranger things have happened.
 
Everybody thinks that have something good to offer. If you want to handle interference smoothly, you will need to use this experience to listen and learn what you need to know to get out ahead of it next time.
"Kathy, I appreciated the work you put in on the wireframe in the last project. Let's work on it together in this round, so you can show me what you do."
 
I know. I'm just tired of the game. I honestly don't care about getting credit for stuff. I just want to do interesting work and make decent money and then get the fuck out of Dodge in a few years.
 
I feel you. I wish I could fix it.
I don't know what to do about this diagram.
 
I don't know anything about flow diagrams. Honest. I've tried to avoid that stuff.
 
I just can't get motivated. I think I could swing it, based on this documentation, but I feel so disingenuous.
I have a pile of other kinds of docs.
But she specifically asked for process flow.
 
1:17 AM
You gotta ask yourself if you really want that job.
 
On the other hand, I have written documentation, just no diagram.
@Robusto I do. I think I really do.
 
But you can't get motivated to do the work you'd be doing?
 
In this instance, I am afraid I will fail spectacularly.
 
You might. In which case there will be other opportunities for you to succeed. Nobody catches a fish on every cast.
 
True, and I wasn't looking for this fish.
But I ended up investing a lot of confidence in their interest in me.
 
1:24 AM
Look, there are two possibilities: either you will succeed or you will fail. If you succeed, no problem. If you fail, you will have more information about what it takes to succeed.
 
They have made me feel like a professional, and I worry that they will look at me and my stuff and see hack-level bullshit.
And I will not be what I was hoping I was after all.
 
@KitFox Then just be yourself. Show 'em you're smart and talented, and if they start to pull at the thread of your work-flow sweater and it starts to unravel, admit you don't know enough about that particular bit but would like to learn more, you're a quick study, etc.
@KitFox Nobody ever is what they were hoping to be. The best you can do is to find a way to be happy about what you are.
 
Yeah. I guess I shouldn't let myself be paralyzed by one misstep. If I'd been less cocky, I would have contacted her and told her I don't have any process flow docs to bring.
 
Not too late to say the dog at them.
 
Lying about it only compounds the problem.
Better to take it head on and give it some good English.
 
1:33 AM
Attagirl.\
 
See? Wouldn't you like working with me?
Even if I were completely inept?
 
1:44 AM
awkward silence
So. What kinds of questions should I ask a QA guy? I've never worked with one before.
Oh!
I just found out that one of my favorite people at the place I'm interviewing died last year.
 
@KitFox Yikes.
 
She was really great.
I almost asked after her at the last interview, but it was pretty hectic.
 
This whole dying thing is crazy bullshit.
We should be able to keep the good ones.
 
I'm sorry, I feel so sad. She was a good person, and she was really good to me at a time when not too many people were.
She was so young.
 
votes to close dying thing
 
1:58 AM
Oh no, and she never got to marry her partner.
@Cerberus She was Dutch.
Geertruida. But she went by Cookie.
 
Funny name.
 
@KitFox The arc of history may bend towards justice but it sure is taking a hell of a long time getting there.
 
Scientists should work harder on immortality.
 
@MετάEd Well, we just legalized it.
So it's that much painfuller.
 
Good evening.
 
2:02 AM
Hello.
 
'fem. proper name, from French, from Old High German Geretrudis, from ger "spear" + trut "beloved, dear."' or possibly 'From Proto-Germanic *gaizaz (“spear”) + *þrūþ- (“strength”) or *trut- (“maiden, dear”)'
Sorry. Force of habit.
 
breathes out OK I have to focus.
 
It's very old-fashioned.
 
Her mother was a member of the Dutch resistance in WWII.
 
That's great.
 
2:05 AM
@Cerberus So is Cerberus, of course.
Was she named for St. Gertrude?
 
Possibly. Probably. I think she was named after her mother.
I am looking at this position and the more I look at it, the more I think I am vastly un-qualified for it.
 
That's bullshit, so stop thinking it.
 
I'm a fucking programmer, not an analyst.
Augh.
I don't even know how these different roles are expected to go together.
 
I'm pretty sure they expect to have to show you a few things.
 
Probably not how work works though.
 
2:17 AM
Like um, did you know they make the chocolate syrup at Starbucks?
Even if you did, you don't know in what parts.
 
I mean, that's generally something that's generally ...
Like the QA people. What do I do with QA people?
 
They will tell you!
 
What's my expected interaction?
 
@MετάEd I don't think Cerberus was ever really in use...
 
Eep.
 
2:18 AM
BRB, ironing a creeper.
 
2:29 AM
Holy shit, I need to sleep! I need to sleep as fast as I can! I have big doings tomorrow!
Bai!
 
@Cerberus Straight people talking about straight things isn't unusual. why bring it up?
 
2:49 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Okay, so gay is the new straight, got it.
 
@Cerberus that isn't what I said.
 
You're saying "gay porn" is among "straight things".
 
@Cerberus Yeah, not something you would name your kid.
 
Except my mom.
 
@Cerberus You were named by storytellers. Who knows what your mom called you. Maybe Fluffy.
 
2:59 AM
@Cerberus No. I'm saying straight things aren't unusual, therefore not worth bringing them up.
 
@MετάEd Why don't you tell that to her face.
Oh, wait, that's daddy.
 
The urn? Ashes, ashes, we all fall down.
And next week we shall learn exactly what does a Grecian urn and exactly how much we ode him.
 
I can't find a picture of her.
 
I should be a little ashamed of that last reviewvote, but I'm defiantly not.
 
Oh, dear.
Will EL&U come down in flames now?
 
3:09 AM
@Cerberus They are licking at our feet.
Or maybe that's the dog.
 
So this popular APC power strip is being recalled:
as well as some others. recall.apc.com/en
the recall process is pretty painless. You put in your address, serial number, and submit a photo of the serial number on the device, and they ship you a new one.
so that's cool
my apc power bar is so old it's yellow now, except the parts that were obscured by the plugs.
anyway, time for bed. good night, all.
 
4:09 AM
@MετάEd It's just the regular Plutonic flames.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Congrats!
 
 
4 hours later…
8:16 AM
English English english English English
I have achieved semantic satiation on English
That middle english should be English
 
Guys, while being a programmer, do you think CSI or FBI or government spokesperson will ever come to your door and say "Mr. (your surname), your country needs you"?
 
8:31 AM
no
 
CIA: "Mr. #%#, your country needs you"
You: "What do you want from me"
CIA: "We want you to write some HTML & CSS URGENTLY
Ohh, sounds so cool.. I wish that can happen one day.. ohh
 
I'd expect more "We notice that you don't have a criminal record and don't hang around with suspicious people. We're arresting you just to be on the safe side."
 
8:53 AM
@MattЭллен Hello Sir Good Afternoon :)
@EnglishMaster HTML & CSS URGENTLY lol
@MattЭллен Busy ?
 
You: "I'll do anything to protect the country. Get my helicopters ready kthxbye."
 
Hi, Shyam
 
9:42 AM
When asked "would you use practice or exercise?" Mark Thorin answers "Yes I would use practice or exercise". Thanks for that then.
 
10:19 AM
Well as we know, the or in English is not exclusive, so he is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
 
10:33 AM
I would use practise.
 
I would practise use.
Though if I were in the US, I'd prefer to practize.
 
I wonder if they exercize.
 
They ekzercize.
 
11:05 AM
maybe they should uksursize
does the tag serve any purpose?
 
11:30 AM
Guys, when you are writing a letter or an email, what are ways to refer to recipient of the paper? Such as Student Office. Of course I can just say "Student Office" but I want to know alternatives (Just curious).
 
@MattЭллен Yes, to invite the wrath of creationists upon this site.
@EnglishMaster refer as in where specifically?
 
Hmm, where or whom
 
Where.
 
In the address? In the opening? In the subject? Midway through the text?
 
11:32 AM
In the Midway
 
Okay.
 
So, how about just saying "you"?
 
The recipient is always a you anyway.
 
11:34 AM
Doesn't "you" sound like you are talking to a specific person in an organisation? I want to refer to the entire organisation in general
because I don't even know who's going to read the email since it's just an enquiry email
Like "Dear whom it may concern"
Nvm
I will just go with "the office"
"I was told at the Office"
Hmm, I thought "the office" is quite weird too.
So I just didn't mention the office at all.
=)....
 
Make sure to not mention the war either.
 
Yeah that's very good. Almost looks like genuine surprise. But the next step is just not mentioning it at all.
 
That would be wrong. Or Fawlty, maybe.
 
Hi.
 
11:47 AM
Wo?
 
Hier.
 
Unfaßbar!
 
True.
 
Man show.
 
Printed on my son's shirt, though.
Do watches go on the dominant side or the non-dominant?
 
11:49 AM
non-dom
 
Recessive for me.
 
Feels funny.
But I haven't worn a watch since the last time I interviewed.
 
And look where it got you!
 
And I do have a tendency toward ambi.
@RegDwigнt Yes, I know! Two more interviews!
 
I haven't worn a watch in a long time, but in 1 out of 1 simulated watch checks I chose left (I'm right handed)
 
11:50 AM
Haha
 
They know they want me, they just aren't sure for what.
OK, I have to go.
 
Have fun!
 
Danke!
 
That's cool
I hate when Korean guys get really mad when I crack some your mom jokes
I am just joking and it's nothing serious but they take it quite seriously =(
 
12:05 PM
@EnglishMaster Are you Korean?
 
today's challenge, is to, add parenthetical commas into your sentences at random points between words
 
I had a letter like that yesterday.
 
Parens mismatch!
The closing flying parens is missing for "today's".
 
Apparently if I am thinking of moving I should contact, Taylor Engley, and ask them.
 
12:11 PM
lol
 
@MattЭллен I see you've been eating ice cream again.
Or did you just shave poorly?
 
I had, a, curry, which is similar
 
A curry is similar to, a bad shave, but not so similar, to an ice cream,.
 
I didn't,, shave
 
I did say "bad" shave.
That's double flying parenthetical commas for you.
 
12:13 PM
super commas: able to leap buildings in a single bound
 
@MattЭллен are you programmer ?
 
He programs bad curries.
 
luckily other people make curries, or the food wouldn't be so popular
 
I reject your impliary that popular is good.
 
12:18 PM
good
 
haha tell me why Javascript can't become faster than C++ on Chrome haha
so easy
 
Because it doesn't want to.
 
to get to the other side?
Tell me what you call a man with a spade on his head
 
Javascript is an adult, it's not racing against kiddie script languages like C++.
@MattЭллен Susie.
 
interesting
 
12:19 PM
spiderman?
Bread Pitt?
Not sure haha..
whatever..
 
I'd go with the more traditional Doug
 
That's a lot of Doug.
 
cha-ching
 
12:32 PM
I do not
 
You know it's true: everything I do not, I do not it for you.
 
12:49 PM
What about everything you do knot?
 
I knot not.
 
What about thoughs doughnuts?
 
They taste of ghoti.
 
at least they don't taste of tiot
 
Who will be the next Microsoft CEO?.. Hmm I think Board members and Steak holders will make the final decision.
 
12:57 PM
Stake
 
They might be steak-holders.
 
true, I'm not sure of their dinner plans :D
 
Who will be the next who cares at all who will be the next Microsoft CEO?
That's a great show title, actually. BRB pitching to Endemol.
 
:D I will pay to not watch it!
 

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