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I never meant anything other than a convenient grouping by Insular English, since I had seen it used that way before. I have to admit I thought he was kidding when he freaked out.

I’m sure @Cerb could tell of insular hands in paleography.

KitFox

I always think they are joking when they react to your name, but I suppose it's because I pronounce it with a short i.

tchrist

It goes with my surname.

KitFox

1:22 AM

Yes. That's why I think it that way, I suppose.

tchrist

It never occurred to me that it could be offensive. It was wholly computer generated. But over the years, many have taken offence over it.

KitFox

Yeah, they probably get up in arms about people named Jesus too.

tchrist

They did, actually.

You heard about the judge in the South who forbade a child from being named Messiah?

KitFox

Nope.

tchrist

It was overturned, thank God.

Only in Tennessee would a judge think she got to tell people what they had to name their own children.

Ok, maybe in Alabama.

KitFox

1:28 AM

I'm going to hazard a guess that they were black people. Just from their names.

tchrist

That DeShawn thing, yeah.

KitFox

And the case was specifically about the surname.

tchrist

White person would be Sean.

Or maybe Shawn.

KitFox

It's not like the State sued or anything.

tchrist

I don’t get the De- thing.

KitFox

1:30 AM

It's like the Le- thing.

And then -en thing.

tchrist

The -en thing?

KitFox

Jayden. Caden.

tchrist

It’s been shown that people with “black” names do worse at the résumé-sorting game. Or maybe it was college entrance, I forget.

Those are just messed up name.

KitFox

Yeah.

They are different.

tchrist

There’s nothing wrong with Tom, Dick, or Harry.

KitFox

1:33 AM

But then, Condoleezza Rice.

tchrist

Well, at least the first one is ok. :)

They called her that because Condescendence was too long.

It’s a shared-pain name. Condolences.

I’m sure they all called her Candy Lisa as a kid.

KitFox

Maybe. I'd've called her Connie, I think.

tchrist

Kids are some of the cruelest of humen.

But I wonder if that is a group effect.

Are they individually awful?

Or is a Lord of the Flies effect?

KitFox

My kids are not exactly cruel.

I think kids have a sense of fairness, but without much perspective.

My little one generally shares without inhibition, but he can be mercilessly destructive sometimes.

His older brother shares when he feels like it, but he's also very respectful of other people's things.

JSBձոգչ

i think it's the Lord of the Flies effect

KitFox

1:41 AM

Hey @JSB, how goes?

JSBձոգչ

decently

waiting for my sister-in-law to get here with her husband

KitFox

Your sister-in-law, as in the other cute Romanian you know?

JSBձոգչ

i know 5 cute romanians

so that we can eat thai food

tchrist

I’m afraid someone is having an Anus Horribilis:

0

A: Origin of the term 'country mile'?

It's the miles that you have to go from Mexico to Canada, border to border

KitFox

@JSBձոգչ speechless

JSBձոգչ

1:43 AM

hah, that chat got out of order

b/c of terrible network connection

KitFox

@tchrist The parts you couldn't see were even worse.

tchrist

@KitFox What couldn’t I see?

I’m not asking for content, just context.

KitFox

imagines 5 cute Romanians eating thai food in my bed

JSBձոգչ

lol

tchrist

imagines 5 cute Thais eating Romanian food in my bed

KitFox

1:44 AM

@tchrist A slew of various inappropriate epithets.

JSBձոգչ

facebook.com/…

tchrist

I see.

JSBձոգչ

if you can see that, those are 4 of my sisters-in-law

KitFox

Not. Fair.

tchrist

Your siblings married 4 Romanian sisters?

KitFox

1:46 AM

pouts

tchrist

There, there.

We were at lunch today with one of our visiting Indian colleagues.

He mentioned to the waitron that he was vegetarian, so she was kind enough to bring veggie pizza for the buffet. I said I was, too, so got some of the yummy thing.

I then took it back and said, well, except for mosquitos.

He looked at me puzzled, asking why I ate mosquitos.

I said one word: bicycles.

It’s not like I have a choice.

KitFox

"waitron"? The 1990s called. They want their gender-neutral term back.

tchrist

Oh sorry.

KitFox

I don't get why you took it back though.

tchrist

Lunch attendant.

KitFox

1:50 AM

Server is the currently preferred nomenclature.

tchrist

I recanted to allow room for mosquitos in my regimen.

Cerberus

@tchrist It's pointy and has weird r's.

KitFox

@tchrist Oh. I must be confused about the antecedent of "it" then.

tchrist

GETSERVENT(3)            BSD Library Functions Manual            GETSERVENT(3)

NAME
     endservent, getservbyname, getservbyport, getservent, setservent -- get service entry

LIBRARY
     Standard C Library (libc, -lc)

SYNOPSIS
     #include <netdb.h>

     void
     endservent(void);

     struct servent *
     getservbyname(const char *name, const char *proto);

     struct servent *
     getservbyport(int port, const char *proto);

     struct servent *
     getservent(void);

     void
     setservent(int stayopen);

If I need a servent, at least I can get them by na,e.

KitFox

Servent? Shit's weird, dude.

tchrist

1:51 AM

@KitFox I recanted my dietary regimen proclamation. I still ate the pizza.

KitFox

OK. Now I can laugh.

tchrist

Servents are the trendier types of servants, the modern cyberlackeys.

JSBձոգչ

@KitFox those are my wife's 4 sisters. the only one missing is my wife

KitFox

Except I'm not sure how this fits into my fantasy of 5 hot, naked Romanian women feeding me drunken noodle in my bed right now.

Man, I want me some drunken noodle.

tchrist

keeps mum

KitFox

1:54 AM

The closest place is about 30 minutes away and it's already closed anyway.

I could make my own, but I've no tofu. Or most of the other ingredients.

I have rice noodles and broccoli.

And brown sugar.

Curse you, @JSB!

JSBձոգչ

@KitFox all of them are married except the youngest

KitFox

mmkay...

JSBձոգչ

sorry about that

toddler sharing keyboard with me

KitFox

So you're saying that in reality, if this were to happen, they would need to have clothes on?

Or what?

JSBձոգչ

05mtwz

KitFox

1:57 AM

hahaha

"Let me help you, Daddy!"

I'm interviewing for a business systems analyst position on Thursday.

Which reports to the woman who does the AX development.

I think it was you I had that conversation with.

I was doing some research tonight on the interviewers, right before I panicked and decided I needed to download all of my prior genetics knowledge into my brain immediately.

JSBձոգչ

laptop has been hijacked to watch wild kratts

KitFox

Yay!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

2:33 AM

@Mitch I still don't get it.

<--- bad at math

twiddles thumbs

KitFox

Hiya.

I was just getting ready to sleep.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Hiyourself!

I was getting ready to keep drinking.

I started a needle book!

So wait... rereads transcript about job stuff

Yay!

KitFox

A needle book, like an old-fashioned handwork kind of needle book?

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I am alternately excited and terrified.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox they're all the rage, as far as I can tell. Um, it has fabric outsides and felt pages.

KitFox

Oh. So kind of, but modern.

The needle books I am familiar with are for keeping needles in, but are also generally constructed to practice/show off needlework.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

2:43 AM

KitFox

hee hee hee

Yes, like that only foxier.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox I might do that for a future book. The prints are too busy for this one.

KitFox

Buttons and other such ... aww.

Other kinds of needlework are suitable for prints.

kitty kitty kitty

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I am torn between posting the picture of my materials and waiting until it's finished. :x

Cerberus

> Competing antivirus providers Avira and AVG are confirmed to have been hit, ... some of the victims report losing control of the domain name system (DNS) servers used to route Internet traffic, a lapse that made it possible for hackers to redirect e-mail and Web traffic to malicious servers.
...
"Once an attacker has control of the NS records, they may also change MX [mail exchange] records and redirect e-mail, or, in the case of an antivirus company like Avira, change the addresses used to download signature updates," Ullrich wrote.

KitFox

2:46 AM

My boys and I watched some YouTube video of penguins tobogganning, and it devolved naturally into kitty videos.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

O_O

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The risks of automatically updating software anti-virus software...

yawns hugely

yawns in response

2:48 AM

My, your tongue is long.

KitFox

Yep. I make the cute noise too.

So I must to sleep.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Sleep well!

KitFox

perchance to snxxxx

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Snitch? Snooze? Sneeze?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

3:01 AM

Snatch?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

3:12 AM

OMFG

etsy.com/listing/122138527/…

Cerberus

4:03 AM

> The rough German equivalent of the National Security Agency has secret arrangements with local telecom firms, providing direct access to data flowing over domestic fiber. According to the German magazine Der Spiegel (Google Translate), the Federal Intelligence Service (known by its German acronym, BND) has taps on the major Internet exchange point in Frankfurt known as DE-CIX.

On Sunday, the magazine cited a “three-page confidential letter” that was signed by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s office and the Ministry of the Interior. The letter noted that the BND would also have access to data s…

Europe is just as evil as America, surprise surprise.

Holland controls the world's largest Internet exchange; let's see what our secret service is doing with that...

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/…

Matt Эллен

7:56 AM

hello

Jez

8:38 AM

hi

played Cookie Clicker?

i just got to the bit where things get "evil"

start getting red cookies, background turns to kind of evil grandmas

apparently things are "downhill from here". i wonder what will happen next.

but im up to like 150 million cookies per second

RegDwigнt

10:18 AM

TIL that you can't call a guy "cunt".

Shawn of the Dead must be re-shot.

Or every British movie ever, for that matter.

Matt Эллен

can't it just be over-dubbed? Is a reshoot the only way?

RegDwigнt

Well have you seen Shawn of the Dead? Not shooting is not an option.

Matt Эллен

:D true, true

@Jez I've heard of it. is it a web game or a phone game?

RegDwigнt

I guess Trainspotting could be restabbed.

Jez

web game

RegDwigнt

10:21 AM

"Trainsformers: The Potting"

Matt Эллен

Trainsformers: Junkies in disguise

All of Guy Ritchie's films would need reshooting and blowing up

RegDwigнt

"Train, spot, and two smoking snatchers"

Speaking of blowing up, Xblast time.

Matt Эллен

have a blast

Cerberus

11:37 AM

Hi.

@RegDwighт I was a bit frustrated with FTL last night.

The prospect of having to start all over yet again is discouraging.

Last time I died, I had got really far. I was in the second last sector, I think.

I couldn't beat the other ship, but it never became clear to me why not. There was nothing special about them, but I just couldn't seem to do a lot of damage, and they slowly killed me in the meantime.

Happy now?

Now is probably the time I will start reading strategy guides...

Mitch

11:53 AM

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 look at the smaller piece that was moved (or rather not in the video but on a grid). Look at the bottom of that piece. It matches up with a small sliver. But when moved to its new position; it's next to a a piece with a sliver cut off. So by removing an entire unit square then moving pieces around, that unit area is still gone, it's just been rearranged to be hard to see. The big combined piece is actually a little shorter then the original uncut piece.

KitFox

12:11 PM

Good morning.

EnglishMaster

►

I hate these work experience jobs they have nowadays (in Australia too). They should just pay less instead of doing this.

KitFox

So child slavery is OK there?

EnglishMaster

Yeah ^_^..

But free work for (bullshit) work experience is not O.K.!

KitFox

Oh, and the "recommendation" is in Comic Sans FTW!

EnglishMaster

To be honest, working at a supermarket is just a simple labouring job. If you've been to highschool then you can learn the entire work process in few minutes.

KitFox

12:18 PM

I'm confused about the 'benefit' they are losing.

EnglishMaster

Benefit to become a free worker over the Christmas!

KitFox

And also, they keep saying 'for free'. Does that mean unpaid?

EnglishMaster

yeah

I'd work at Google for free if it was an intership but who wants to work at a supermarket for free (British do)

KitFox

Oh. So this slacker was on unemployment for three months, and then was complaining that he was compelled to go to a skills training essentially.

sympathy gone

Mitch

I think we should have more moon bases.

Then if you can't find something to do, you have to go outside.

Survival of the those-with-jobs.

KitFox

12:26 PM

Meh. I am a proponent of tax-payer funded social support, but a kid who never graduated from a program that provided useless skills that he couldn't master anyway needs a plan to get off assistance, not a reason to do nothing.

You will find I am quite ambivalent about these sorts of things.

Mitch

@KitFox I am not so sure what to think of that.

KitFox

I don't understand.

Mitch

I failed in my non-message. I was being ambivalent about your ambivalence. No spewing tea over your keyboard. no 'Lots o laughs'. No nothing.

KitFox

Oh.

Mitch

See?

KitFox

12:37 PM

[placeholder for laughs]

Mitch

That'll do. at least a placeholder.

So a rabbi, a priest, and a mullah walk in to a bar. The bartender says...

"Wait, is this some kind of joke?"

KitFox

"What is this, some kind of—"

Matt Эллен

"Is this some kind of joke?"

KitFox

jinx

Mitch

triple jinx

KitFox

12:39 PM

double jinx

etc jinx

Mitch

argh!

Matt Эллен

Mitch

does this mean -none- of us can speak?

Matt Эллен

it means we all get coke

Mitch

nice!

KitFox

12:40 PM

...and hookers?

Because I've got coffee, which suits me fine right now.

But I'd take coke if it came with hookers.

Mitch

sure but where would the bottle of coke go?

KitFox

Prepaid hookers.

Mitch

They could hold it for you.

KitFox

Yeah. I'd be all like, ho, hold my can of Coke while I ... uh. I guess I shouldn't type that.

Mitch

While you drink it? I know, kinda racy.

KitFox

12:42 PM

Sure. Yes. Right. That's what I was going to say.

Hey, remember Clarence Thomas?

hahaha

Mitch

Ha ha...no not at all!

what..those are connected? He made a joke about hookers?

KitFox

Really? Pubic-hair-on-your-Coke Thomas?

Mitch

Oh. right.

Matt Эллен

I don't know that one. I guess it passed me by

KitFox

Sexual her ass ment. No, no, we should say it sexual hairessment instead.

Mitch

12:44 PM

That's the US Supreme Court Judge.

KitFox

@MattЭллен You are probably too young. I was a kid at the time.

Mitch

...where that came out during his confirmation hearings a zillion years ago.

KitFox

That's how I learned what harassment was.

My mom said it would happen to me, but it never did.

Mitch

That's where I learned that some people will actually say disgusting things to each other in real life instead of just the movies.

KitFox

OK, actually, I wasn't harassed at my job, but high school was bad.

MετάEd

12:46 PM

High school is just generally awful.

Mitch

People are jerks. Was it the same individuals?

EnglishMaster

google.com/search?q=spain+unemployment+rate

wow

26% !! Holy cow!!

KitFox

Dominic Meucci. Had the locker next to mine. He wanted to hide drugs in mine all the time, and liked telling me the things he wanted to do to various parts of my body.

Mitch

I think adults would say the same things but they're either too tired or they need something from you right now so they have to stifle their natural impulse to be jerks.

@EnglishMaster said the Englilshman in India.

KitFox

I don't think adults would say those kinds of things to people generally.

EnglishMaster

12:48 PM

What? I am no Indian man

MετάEd

What the hell is going on with all these questions about "the" and university names!

KitFox

On the plus side, I had a lot of interesting things to look up.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus I won't be happy until you're so frustrated you actually demand your two bucks back from that eBay seller. Muwahahaha.

Mitch

@EnglishMaster I was being^H^H^H^H^Htrying to be funny. cause you see in India supposedly the cows are not eaten because they are holy. ha ha. hilarious. see this...

12 mins ago, by KitFox

[placeholder for laughs]

RegDwigнt

I was being Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

EnglishMaster

12:50 PM

ho ho

RegDwigнt

@EnglishMaster check the unemployment rate among teenagers and twens. It's over 50%.

EnglishMaster

Ya, I know. Half of British kids never had a job in their life

Matt Эллен