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12:15 AM
@Cerberus English is full of these, particularly in legal language. "Part and parcel". "Goods and chattels". "Will and testament". It dates back to the time when things had to be understandable and synonymous in both French and English.
 
12:29 AM
@DavidWallace Yes, well, I'm not sure it all leads back to that: I'd rather say it is typical of international legalese to do so.
You can see it in Latin documents as well.
And in Dutch documents.
And "part" is French as well.
 
@DavidWallace fantastic!
 
In this document we have just translated, you see "ultima voluntas seu testamentum" all the time.
 
what's this about ultimate testicles, then?
 
Hi!
This was about David's "will and testament".
Your link doesn't work for me...
 
I see that!
 
12:46 AM
It's funny to me, damnit.
 
Now I see it, haha.
 
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A: Why is "dingbat" used to refer to characters like "☺"?

ChrisThe term dingbat refers to a idiot such as the bat that flew into a bell. When the bat hit the bell it made a ding sound, therefore, ding bat.

You can’t flag it as "not an answer". It is a stupid, wrong, and pathetic answer, but it is still an answer.
I guess you could flag it with "please make it go away".
But they would be within their rights to decline to do so.
 
1:24 AM
You'd flags++ if you marked that as 'not an answer'.
I'm testing this theory for you on the house.
 
1:43 AM
Hello @cornbread - "We're outnumbered" are you so nice to tell me what the meaning is? Thank you.
 
Actually, it isn't an answer to the question—he/she never addresses what the relationship the word "dingbat" has to those specific characters.
Which is annoying, because I was going to decline the flag just to spite you. :P
 
Hah.
Whoa! Where did everybody go?
 
2:10 AM
@waiwai933 ._.
@Carlo_R. Be more numerous than: "women outnumbered men by three to one".
As I sometimes say somewhat jokingly, your children shouldn't outnumber you (meaning the parents). So... more than two kids would outnumber the parents.
 
@waiwai933 You know, quite a few things get closed as GR without there actually being a citable simple link to a public Internet source for that particular answer. I think people use it for more than that.
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Q: "Thank you" at end of a letter or email

LanceBaynesWhich is correct at the end of a letter or email? "Thank you!" "thank you!"

That was closed as GR. I cannot believe there is a link that explains it.
 
2:26 AM
@cornbread thank you
 
@simchona I think this answer my question:
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A: Delete votes on 0-scored answers should count as a down-vote

Mark TrappI think this has been implemented, but I'm not sure if it's working as intended. When trolling the low quality posts queue on Arqade, I'm able to click a "delete" (not "recommend deletion") button on 0-scored answers. However, it doesn't register a downvote, and since the post is still at 0, the...

 
3:00 AM
@Carlo_R. you're welcome
nighty nights
 
Good evening, folks.
 
 
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4:09 AM
If someone says "Goodnight"(cos its night for them) to you, how do you reply? It is still morning for you, so saying "Goodnight" won't be appropriate, right? Or is it appropriate to say "Goodnight" as you are wishing them a good night's rest/sleep?
 
@ShyamK You normally use whichever phrase fits the time of the addressee, because it is he that you are wishing a good day/night to. So in this case, the other person is mistaken in saying "goodnight" to you. You would normally wish him a good night back, because that's what it is for him.
However, all of this is completely trivial: it doesn't matter at all what you wish the other person.
Noöne should or would be annoyed if you wished him something that was not correct for his time zone.
If you want to be super correct, always use whatever time if appropriate for the other person; it doesn't matter what he said to you.
In practice, say whatever you want, because nobody thinks it matters.
 
1 hour ago, by Mahnax
Good evening, folks.
Chatkillah x2.
 
4:41 AM
@Mahnax Yo!
 
@Cerberus Ohai!
 
I'm just going to bed, I am afraid.
 
I figured you would be.
 
I was going to immediately after posting that stuff above, but then I was answering a question by Yoichi all of a sudden.
And now it's 6:42...oh well!
 
Haha, time flies.
 
4:42 AM
Good night!
Are you going to hand in your resignation tomorrow?
 
Yes.
 
OK, good luck.
I hope they won't get mad at you.
 
@Cerberus Alrighty then...
 
@Cerberus They'd better not :-)
 
You could say they can always call you if they need someone to fill in now and then.
So you can say yes or no if they ever call you, decide on the spot whether you feel like it.
But whatever.
@ShyamK Good something to you!
The problem is that we often don't know what time zone our interlocutors are in.
Like now.
And, if we know, we may be too lazy to calculate.
And we may forget.
So, bye both!
 
4:47 AM
@Cerberus Nope, that won't happen, heh.
But yeah, good night!
 
OK.
Bye!
 
bye bye then...
 
 
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Jez
7:19 AM
@Cerberus you should change your answer that I commented on.
 
 
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8:57 AM
@Cerberus: why does your meta answer end in a but? Don't leave us hanging like that!
Or did you mean to end it in a butt?
 
That's what I wanted to ask.
Perhaps he meant dot.
 
Perhaps he forgot to mean altogether?
 
Yes, that must be it.
 
Jez
9:14 AM
well, I've bitten the bullet: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/…
hello SeaMonkey, fuck you Firefox devs.
:-)
Now I have weeks of fun mucking around with SeaMonkey's default theme to get it looking like Firefox 3
SeaMonkey is better in the long-term, though, because you don't get people like Ass Dotzler saying things like "most users don't use....."
it's actually for power users like me
 
 
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10:16 AM
Maldivian sure looks peculiar.
ދަމުއި()ނުވަތަ () އަކީ ދަމުއި އަކީ ދިވެހިބޭހަށް ބޭނުންކުރާ އެއްޗެކެވެ. ދަމުއިގެ ތަފާތު ދެބާވަތެއް ހުރެއެވެ. އެއީ ހިތި ދަމުއި އާއި އަދި ފަރިހި ދަމުއި އެވެ. ދަމުއި އަކީ ހަވާދުގެ ބާވަތެއްގެ ގޮތުގައި ބޭނުންކުރާ އެއްޗެއް ވެސް މެއެވެ. ދަމުއި އަޅާ ގަސް ބޮޑުވަނީ 60-40 ސެންޓި މީޓަރުވަރުގެ އުސްމިނަކަށެވެ. ދަމުއި ގަސް ވެސް ހުންނަނީ ކެރެޓް ގަހާއި ވައްތަރު ގޮތަކަށެވެ. ފަރިހި ދަމުއި އެކޭ އެއް ގޮތަށް ދަމުއި ގަހުގެ ފަތަކީ ވެސް ތަފާތު ވައްތަރުގެ ސުރުވާ، އަސާރަ އަދި އެހެނިހެން ކާތަކެތީގައި ރަހަ ޖެއްސުމަށް ބޭނުންކޮށް އުޅޭ އެއްޗެކެވެ. ދަމުއި އަކީ ފަރިހި ދަމުއި އެކޭ އެއް ގޮތަށް ހަވާދުގެ ބާވަތެއްގެ ގޮތުގައި ބ...
 
everything has a diacritic?
 
A diacritic the size of the letter, no less.
Looks like the language of choice for sewing machines.
 
:D
related to Sinhala. interesting
 
10:46 AM
@ЯegDwight like a siren to me... I get dizzy from looking at it for some time... but I can't keep my eyes off it...
 
Jez
anyone ever heard of the word "verbier" being used in English?
 
as in "that sentence was verbier than expected"? nope. can't say that I have.
what would that mean? too many verbs?
too many words?
 
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A: How to configure VPN programatically?

Andrei BotezatuSalut Paul! Tu ai mai gasit solutia cum sa configurezi VPN?

What language is that, and what does gasit mean?
 
Romanian?
 
That's what I was wondering.
Google translate doesn't help.
The only word that I don't get -- with or without GT -- is gasit.
 
10:53 AM
Ask @jsbձոգչ
Oh yeah, with a name like that he's gotta be Romanian.
 
I was hoping that the off-word might have had a Slavic cognate you’d’ve recognized.
There are 103 Not-An-Answer flags this morning.
Of which that was one.
 
GT worked for me
 
@MattЭллен That pisses me off that it didn’t work for me.
 
So, "have you found".
The rest is self-explanatory without Google Translate.
 
10:56 AM
Right.
 
Actually, with the rest being self-explanatory we could have guessed that one word, too.
 
@tchrist how disappointing. I wonder what went wrong
 
> From Slavic gasiti
 
That was my first hunch, but it didn't make sense.
Gasiti means to extinguish.
 
clearly it's from the latin gastro - because the way to find a man is through his stomach.
 
10:58 AM
@MattЭллен It bothers me that the same people can run the same thing through GT and get different answers. If I wanted that, I’d use people.
 
@MattЭллен And gastro is a combination of German "Gast", guest, and "Ro", the language code for Romanian. A Romanian guest. It all makes sense now!
 
:D
@tchrist true, true! I wonder what Mr. Norvig is up to
Is Google Translate just a Mechanical Turk?
 
A Digital Turk.
 
hmmm. I'm fairly sure "the number of poor" is acceptable. "The upliftment of poor" is somewhat different, it requires disambiguation, which is why the definite article is used.
 
The number of poor isn’t too hot either.
 
11:06 AM
A murder of poor.
 
crows
 
Crows are rich. How else could they afford to hang out in crowbars?
 
Must be a naval port.
 
Yeah, all men get are manholes
 
11:09 AM
Any port in a storm.
 
@MattЭллен Try this one.
 
about equal. that's good.
so poor can be understood as "poor people"
 
The poor shall be with you always.
--jc
 
11:27 AM
I had to read "They all are fine vs They are all fine" over 9000 times before I saw the difference. I must be tired or something.
 
So he asks about the differences in meaning between different word orders, and guess what he does not tag his question with. That's right, , , .
 
11:47 AM
I wonder if one were to tag a question on SO with the most popular tags, regardless of the appropriateness, would that improve the likelihood of a good answer?
 
Not sure. Why would people answer questions that illegally invade their tag?
I think downvotes and a quick retag is more likely.
 
@ЯegDwight because they can (if they can)
reps vs indignation
 
I dunno.
If I'm following the CSS tag and ignoring C# and ASP.NET, and you ask a C# question tagged CSS, I will not answer it.
And I will hate you forever.
 
lol
for ever?
 
And ever.
 
11:51 AM
oh dear
I'll be sure not to do that then
 
You've been warned.
 
I have
 
He can't keep it up forever.
 
can he keep it up for long enough?
 
 
12:01 PM
is that an infinity symbol with a line through the middle?
wikipedia doesn't recognise it
 
It is "not infinity" according to my special-characters list.
 
then that is what shall go in the wikipedia article
 
 
No unicodes of chocolate starfishes in this chat.
 
☀☀☀☀☀☀☀☀
 
12:05 PM
I am very offended! Someone flag him already.
 
 
I have to fill in a box if I want to flag something? That's just criminal.
 
12:18 PM
Shiver me timbers, we've no new pirate questions today.
 
Rrrrr, and not much time ta rite thum
 
'tis me poor planning and foul mood what sullied the day.
brb coffee
 
Blast, 'ere I thaat TLAPD was the 23rd. I don't know where I be gettin such daft ideas
 
Okay, this XKCD is a huge time sink, I'll give him that.
2
 
Jez
interesting how we have the words "sarky" and "snarky", which mean much the same thing
 
12:26 PM
@ЯegDwight inorite i spent like ten minutes on it already.
 
It was fun at first, but when I went underground and it just wouldn't stop, I started losing interest.
Vertical scrolling is a PITA.
 
true dirt
 
I mean, when it goes on like this for three minutes of constant clicking and dragging, you start to want your life back.
 
Thanks for the pdf.
Now I guess I have no more excuses. Back to the datepickers.
 
@mr.shinyandnew安宇 It is possible. I told you.
 
12:36 PM
@ЯegDwight That's pretty frickin' awesome.
 
Jez
@ЯegDwight boy, i'd like to have the whole image of that
the server serves up tiles as you drag, you it appears you can't download it
 
Read on and you will find.
 
Jez
oh yeah
 
Then I can assume it to be "Can I help X?" where "who's next"=X. Right? — Gigili 3 hours ago
Am I right?
Hellot, BTW.
 
Hellot to you too
 
12:46 PM
I'm not sure what your question there is.
 
I don't know how to explain it further.
 
Hm.
 
Actually that's what the other answer is suggesting.
> I parse the "who is next" as its own inner clause that is all collectively the object of "Can I help"
 
Well yes. That's what the question is all about.
 
Who's next = X, the one who is next in line=X, Can I help Mr.X?
 
12:52 PM
Well yes. That's what the question is all about.
As in, that's not part of the answer. That's part of the question.
 
"can I make what is shown?" so, yes @Gigili, "Can I help who is next" can work like that
 
Careful, that's cheating.
Pullum expressly addresses that.
 
Can I help whoever you told me you thought would be next?
 
@ЯegDwight who? He's wrong.
 
Who ≠ whoever.
Who ≠ what.
Who behaves differently.
 
12:54 PM
How?
 
Sep 16 at 0:55, by David Wallace
@WillHunting Whenever Reg Dwight says anything, it's the second time he's said it.
 
it might do more, but it doesn't do less
 
@MattЭллен Uhum, thank you.
 
Can you perhaps do me a favor and read my answer?
Because we are discussing my answer here.
 
all of it?
 
12:55 PM
Without having read my answer we shouldn't be discussing my answer.
@MattЭллен preferrably more than all of it. All of Pullum's post.
 
Can I help who you told me you thought would be next?
 
I read your answer and asked a question which you may choose not to answer.
 
I am still not sure what your question is.
I fail to see how it's different from the original question.
 
I don't know how to explain it further.
My question does not even have a character in common with that question.
 
space
 
12:58 PM
The question is asking if "can I help who's next?" is correct.
Do me a favor and read the question.
 
I did. Several times, over the course of several years.
 

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