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1:00 PM
I'd rather pants were kept up
 
@WillHunting If my daughter were here she'd insist that you also mention underwear and socks.
 
meetg. bbl
 
@ЯegDwight Is that Jasper?
 
That's Mr Pants.
 
1:00 PM
It should be
 
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@Gigili Looks like me, true.
 
Of Rareware fame.
 
there you go, jasper, you have a new avatar
it's even blue!
 
Meetg is a weird way to abbreviate meeting. Wow, I just souped that sentence three times before getting it right
Typoing, backspacing, and then repeating the same typo is as perturbing as it is perplexing
 
It's Mr. Pants (originally Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers) is a video game for the Game Boy Advance. The starring character, Mr. Pants, is the result of a poorly drawn image from Rare's website, who was used as a mascot for the site survey. Gameplay The basic idea of the game is to create rectangles which have to be 2x3 blocks or larger to clear them from the grid. Blocks cannot be placed on top of blocks of the same color that are already on the grid, but they can be placed on top of blocks of any other color which causes the different blocks on the grid to disappear. The game incorpo...
 
1:02 PM
Mr.Pants = Jasper. QED.
Now Mitch is going to read the whole transcript. Good luck.
 
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Pants mean underwear in BrE.
 
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But trousers has one more syllable.
 
Not if you skip the E!
 
@GraceNote Trous'rs?
 
@WillHunting Woher weißt du das alles.
 
1:06 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I end up saying something that sounds liker "trowers" every time
 
f'''c''tl'
 
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@GraceNote That is skipping the S!
 
@GraceNote doesn't that skip the "S"? anyway I'd still call it two syllables
 
Except at one syllable, so I guess trours
 
Just call everything muh.
 
1:07 PM
@GraceNote trours are what trourists do in other countries
 
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Well, I don't know the definition of a syllable actually.
 
It worked for our ancestors, so why not for us.
 
@ЯegDwight it worked so well they stopped doing it
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 wrong. They died using it.
They got muh or died muhing.
 
Jez
wow, i forgot just how bad Windows 7 search is.
I want to find files with "user" in the name. I search for *user* and it gives me....... all files.
Why? Because I'm searching in C:\Users\jez\...
 
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1:13 PM
@Jez LOL
 
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I think maybe you can reconfigure the search.
 
Jez
not easily. usually the Microsoft way would be to at least offer a GUI to construct an advanced search
in win 7 it's a definite downgrade from XP imho
and looking at screenshots of windows 8 search, that's just as bad
if not worse
 
@WillHunting there are (in many american universities). sometimes called a 'concentration'.
 
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@Mitch I know, I was referring to the army ranks.
 
This question is ambiguous, vague and rhetorical. However, you could improve it changing the example sentences: husbands are not a property of wives. — Carlo_R. 17 mins ago
That's Carlo.
And that's why I said there are definitely two people who are being Carlo.
 
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1:16 PM
@Gigili Well, let's cut him some slack. He is a grandfather after all.
 
I am not willing to cut anyone slack solely on the grounds of them being able to reproduce.
 
@Robusto but not loose stools.
 
Aren't the merits of a grandparent less on their own ability to reproduce?
I guess siring a siring offspring is an achievement on its own but that's still not their own work. Typically.
 
@WillHunting ohhh.. see? it takes me a bit to get through the backlog of comments.
@Gigili how is that evidence of two?
 
@GraceNote I don't care whose merit it is if I am about to question its very meritness.
 
1:19 PM
@ЯegDwight Punto
 
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@Mitch Perhaps the similarity to Xavier?
 
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@Mitch Well, to be fair that one was ambiguous on its own.
 
@GraceNote "Typically"?
 
@tchrist Ick.
 
@Mitch He is speaking English quite well there.
 
1:20 PM
@Gigili much of it is copypasted.
 
@tchrist I have a bad tendency to cover spots that even I won't think of.
 
@Gigili I honestly haven’t seen that. His chat is different because it is extemporaneous.
 
Oh, right. His quality of English jumps from perfect/fluent to word by word translation.
 
I don’t really think so.
 
Great, now I need to pick up a dictionary
 
1:21 PM
@Mitch Now your turn, who's WMD?
 
I am ready to be convinced otherwise.
 
@Gigili Someone who I doubt to be under investigation here
 
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@GraceNote For extemporaneous? Well, I don't bother checking anymore.
 
Sorry, Grace.
 
You don't need to apologize, tchrist. I like learning new words
 
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1:22 PM
@Gigili You may ask WMD yourself.
 
Extemporaneous? Seriously? That's not too strange of a word. And somewhat self-explanatory, too.
 
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@GraceNote I gave up learning new words when I knew there were too many to learn.
 
I was always in extemp in Forensics.
 
@ЯegDwight Normally I can, like, root derive or some other actual term for the process of backcrawling the etymological origins. But somehow the particular combination of affixes is throwing me off.
 
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@GraceNote You can also create many words, like Hejudas.
 
1:23 PM
@GraceNote I'm just saying that's a word even Dubya would use, and probably has. Is all.
Tchrist taught me some real strange stuff here. Extemporaneous doesn't compare.
 
ex- out of. -tempor- < tempus/-oris, time. -aneous < anus, talking out of your ass.
 
@ЯegDwight This would imply I actually listened to words those years
 
@Mitch WTH.
 
@Gigili look quick!
 
Let me know when I can delete your message, @Mitch
 
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1:24 PM
@tchrist I just saw an anus in this chat.
 
@GraceNote now please. I thought removal was alllowed forever.
 
@tchrist Huh. So is as it is
 
Sep 9 at 22:19, by cornbread ninja
Walrus Mustache Degreaser?
 
@WillHunting you got some butt issues dude.
 
@Mitch Nope, only for... 2 minutes, I think?
 
1:25 PM
You have seen nonomillienial [sic] ones.
 
@GraceNote as long as editing?
 
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@Mitch Yes.
 
Probably too deep.
 
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I misspelled "millennium" until recently.
 
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I used "millenium" instead.
 
1:27 PM
A thousand anuses cannot be wrong.
 
how about alumi...um?
 
annum != anus
@Mitch alumnorum
 
@tchrist they are all rings.
 
@Mitch Aye aye
 
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@Mitch That is certainly "aluminium" in BrE or "aluminum" in AmE.
 
1:28 PM
@WillHunting I try not to write milli...um. instead I say 'a thousand years' or 'a long time ago' or 'way back when'
@WillHunting No. England doesn't even have aluminum.
 
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@Mitch I would like to ask you if you would use "after very long" to mean "after a very long time".
 
I try not to write "millennium". I just use "Backstreet Boys' third album".
 
OK. Go Ahead. Ask.
 
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@Mitch So what is your answer?
 
@WillHunting To what?
 
1:30 PM
What about condominium?
 
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@Mitch Would you use "after very long" to mean "after a very long time"?
 
Oh. Can you give a sentence then? depends on context, innit?
 
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Well, some others here told me they would not.
 
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For example, "he succeeded after very long".
 
They would not what?
Oh. Yeah, that sounds wrong.
 
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1:32 PM
Would not use it.
 
@WillHunting That is not right.
 
Yeah, don't use that.
 
But "before very long" can be ok.
 
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@tchrist Yes, you were one of those I asked in the past.
 
Say "He succeeded after a very long time."
 
1:32 PM
Didn’t we just go through this a few days ago?
Right.
 
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@tchrist Yes, I just want to conduct a mini survey.
 
@tchrist I wasn't there then, so maybe Jasper is trying to get independent confirmation. Which I am doing.
 
So ’twould appear.
 
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It's kind of weird that "before long" is used.
 
"He succeeded before very long" is right. It's an idiom 'before very long' is not a small bit of litote.
 
1:35 PM
@Andrew hello, glad to hear from you. I entirely agree with you on the fact that the question remains rhetorical. — Carlo_R. 5 mins ago
 
no it is not weird. if you think of it as a reversal. "He succeeded after a long time" = "a long time passed from the start . then after that, he succeeded"
 
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@simchona Sounds a little like Xavier.
 
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I am actually beginning to think that they are one!
 
"He succeded before long" = " he started trying. A long time passed. Before the end of that long time, he succeeded. So It probably didn't take him a full long time to do it." = litote
 
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@Mitch Yes, there is the asymmetry in "before long" and "after a while".
 
1:38 PM
@simchona collective, commiserating sigh: sigh
@WillHunting No they are quite different. CR has an italian accent in his fractured English. XVH has a highly learn-ed academic vocabulary and discourse pattern that is vague and word-salad-ish.
 
Can anybody help this guy?
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Q: give lift to or without to?

PoTrosReading a text I have seen the following: ..two girls he gave a lift to. But doesn't this mean that I can say "give lift to"? What about this: I gave my friend a lift. I gave a lift to my friend. Dictionary says "give sb lift". But then I dont understand the "to" (A man who I gave...

This about a phrasal verb, right?
 
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@Mitch I prefer Carlo's English to Xavier's. The former may sound broken but the latter sounds pretentious.
 
Or not.
Anyway, he's got himself all turned around about the object.
 
I'm not sure the confusion in there
 
@KitFox it's the usual pattern, probably a dupe or GR. I gave X a Y <-> I gave Y to X.
 
1:42 PM
Can someone help clarify his question and point him in the right direction?
 
@KitFox I think this is about give being ditransitive.
 
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@KitFox I am not sure myself. Let's replace "lift" with "book" there.
 
I mean, an answer would point out that "Give X a lift" is legitimate phrasing, and I imagine that "Give X a lift to" is also legitimate
 
I gave you X. I gave X to you.
 
@ЯegDwight OK, that.
 
1:42 PM
@GraceNote it's the classic transformation.
 
It didn't know that's what it was called, but there.
 
The latter probably has another construct that the "to" points at, though
 
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The two people I gave a book (to)?
 
"It was the convention center he gave the girls a lift to", for example
As opposed to just "He gave the girls a lift".
Really, the heart of this resolves to "Why the hejudas would you only cite a portion of the sentence and disregard the potentiality that the earlier portions of the sentence may be relevant to explaining the sentence?"
This is like asking about an IP block but not telling me what your IP is
 
I think he is asking if you can just say "He gave a lift to.".
Which is obviously wrong.
 
1:44 PM
@GraceNote Yeah.
 
Those are the girls he gave a lift to.
That's fine.
 
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@KitFox But is it fine without the to?
 
@WillHunting He gave those girls a lift.
 
That's the 'ending a sentence with a preposition' that is totally fine, because you fronted and relativixed the object of the preposition.
 
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@KitFox No, I mean in that exact order.
 
1:45 PM
@WillHunting You'd have to rearrange it for it to not sound awkward
 
@WillHunting state the full sentence of what you think is fine.
 
@WillHunting No.
 
Otherwise, the "to" is dangling with nothing to point at
 
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@GraceNote It sounds weird to me but I am not sure if it is wrong.
 
The second and third example have nothing to do with lift and everything to do with give. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditransitive_verb. The first example has little to do with anything as it stands, because it's incomplete. The to could be part of something else entirely. Quote the entire sentence. — ЯegDwight 2 mins ago
 
1:45 PM
It's a prepositional phrase.
 
That's all I can do for him.
 
Thanks, owl.
 
Thanks, Dwig
 
NP Fox.
Et tu, grache.
 
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@GraceNote Someone calls me Dawg in the other room.
 
1:47 PM
@simchona He must be out of his mind.
 
2:37 PM
Hello, how are you?
 
I was falling asleep in a meeting, but then I came back and squashed a bug. I feel better
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How are you?
 
I' fine. Thank you.
How is this day in Elu questions
 
This day in questions, well, questions in chat, we had a visit from a user called prime, and he was full of questions
 
@MattЭллен what kind of bug? a centipede? I like to make them run around until they're exhausted before I kill them.
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@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it was like a centipede. The head was a null reference and the body was a stack overflow
 
2:42 PM
@Matt prime? I do not know. I'm going to see their questions
 
prime: poses random infinitely meandering enquiries
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So what does his first name stand for, Optimus?
 
@Carlo_R. most of his questions involved badgering Grace Note. I don't know what set him off
 
It's a different target each time.
A target a day keeps all users away.
Except Grace is paid to stick around.
So this is the future of all chat, I guess. Prime vs Grace.
 
but... does that mean Grace is Megatron?
 
2:45 PM
@reg interesting
@Matt as fa as I know "Megatron" is an atimicl weapon, extremely dangerous
 
@ЯegDwight That's prime vs. composite for you.
 
'Atomical'
 
@Carlo_R. I think you're thinking of megaton - a measure of explosive capability
Megatron:
 
@Matt Ohhh... Yes
 
2:49 PM
@reg interesting, is it original?
 
OMG! OMG! I just realized something! My coffeepot is thermal-insulated, so I don't need to leave it in the kitchen! I can bring it down to my desk and put it right next to my PC!
 
laughs
 
Welcome to the British American Language Remedial Online Group.
 
@kit hello how are you? Have you sleeped?
 
2:57 PM
@Carlo_R. I did sleep, but not enough.
How goes it?
Are your intermittency issues resolved?
 
Well i'n fine
Intermittency?
 
You were having some connection issues, as I recall.
 
No, it was a maintenance problem
 
Oh I see.
 
@ΜετάEd With offices in Moscow, Oslo, Regensburg, Ithaca, and Amsterdam?
 
2:59 PM
You have your own burg?
 
@kit just now
 
Everyone and his dog in Germany have their own burg.
 
@reg how about Rome too
 
Die Kitzburg ist ein Wasserschloss am südlichen Ortsrand von Walberberg, einem Stadtteil von Bornheim im Rhein-Sieg-Kreis (Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland). Sie befindet sich in Privatbesitz und kann nicht besichtigt werden. Beschreibung Die Kitzburg ist ein kleiner Herrensitz, der von einem romantischen Park umgeben und über eine geradlinige, 500 Meter lange Heckenallee erreichbar ist. Das Herrenhaus entstand 1725 und wurde im 18. sowie 19. Jahrhundert zu seiner heutigen Form umgebaut. Es steht auf einer ummauerten, künstlichen Insel, die einen quadratischen Grundriss aufweist...
 
Yeah, even my ex-boyfriend had his own burg.
Johannesburg.
 
3:02 PM
I'm gonna buy the balrogoverflow.com domain so we can blog there, too.
 
@gigil are you southafrican
 
There you go. Now that you know his name, go and kill him with one bullet.
 
@Carlo_R. For large values of Africa, yes.
Ima commute.
 
@gigili have you seen what reg said. I have the exclusive on Africa, sorry
 
@Carlo_R. Yes.
 
3:04 PM
Yay!
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Congrats!
 
I'll have to go and claim it
 
@gigili question: what is the origin of "gigili"?
 
I don't think I have a burg
 
you have a de burgh
 
3:09 PM
@Carlo_R. It's not a meaningful word.
And this is not a meaningful discussion.
 
I need to find a job.
 
@simchona what are you good at?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm currently in CS + Econ, but I'm good at more of the problem-solving/crit thinking stuff. Not programming.
 
cycle courier? do they still have those?
 
@GraceNote You have an entire forest.
 
3:18 PM
> Ellensburg ist eine Stadt im Kittitas County
My burg is in Kit's county?
 
No, my tatas' county.
 
oh! ok then
 
I am unhappy with my today. Where can I exchange it for a new one?
 
you'll need to head to the office of daily disappointment readjustment and fill out form 278B
 
Sadly, I am out of pens.
Can I file a 603-F alternate?
 
3:22 PM
@KitFox Just pretend the day is just starting: go get a morning coffee, etc,. By lunch time of your new "day" it will be quitting time! so not only will it be new, it'll be a short day too!
 
the you need to head to Pen Island!
 
I mean, if I include a schedule 6, of course.
They need to fix the house chili so it tastes good. It doesn't taste good today.
 
@KitFox yes, you'd need the schedule 6 otherwise you'd be filing for a groundhog day renewal.
 
Not if I fill out the 24-M-12, invoking the section 804 clause.
Subsection 7e. clearly states that foxen are allowed one good day per week.
 
@KitFox right, but are you sure you want a whole week do over? You never know - tomorrow might be really good.
 
3:26 PM
True enough.
I'll scrap it all and go for the 277, request for injunction NOS.
 
and you can fill that online too, so no pens!
 
Hooray!
 
@ЯegDwight Field offices, sure. Manufacturing plants in Moscow, Oslo, Regensburg, Dachau, Omsk, and Rotterdam.
 
so I've been wasting my breath all these years?!
I don't give a f--k about his Jesus
 
3:37 PM
Gesundheit.
 
My daughter tried to convince me that it's wrong to say "gesundheit" and that I Have to say "Bless you" after someone sneezes. The things they learn at daycare, jeepers
I should write a strongly-worded letter
 
first, though, you must run a words olympics to determine the strongest words
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you could play them at their own game: write a letter explaining how appalled you are at their poor knowledge of history. That while bless is pronounced bless in other contexts, it's actually pronounced blaarss in bless you, due to it's old English roots.
 
@MattЭллен That sort of joke wouldn't fly here. Almost every single teacher at the daycare is a pineapple. If I took the time to correct mispronunciation you'd never hear from me again.
 
heh. I see. They must have learned from British EFL teachers. we don't say gesundheit in the UK.
well, not much
 
@MattЭллен we don't say it much here either. But as an atheist I feel sillier saying "bless you" than I do when I curse "Jesus Christ!"
 
3:46 PM
me too
 
So I switched to "gesundheit" because it doesn't involve blessings
and people understand it
 
time to go!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Let them know that the term originates in the pagan practice of sprinkling blood on an altar and that you prefer it if they would leave religious instruction to the parents, thank you very much.
Actually, just fire them.
 
@ΜετάEd I'm pretty sure that not one of the teachers considered the phrase "bless you" in its literal meaning, only in its "polite thing to say" meaning. Kinda like how I don't get hung up when people tell me "goodbye"
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That could well be. Here in Texas the safe assumption is that any correction along those lines is an attempt to save the baby from Satan.
 
3:54 PM
@ΜετάEd Oh, well, I don't think they were correcting my daughter, SHE was correcting ME, because what I said was different than what they taught.
@ΜετάEd I'm pretty sure that not all the workers at the daycare are Christian anyway, so I would be shocked if they were trying to actually teach any kind of religion. That sort of thing doesn't happen in secular daycares here.
aaaahhh.... I just refilled my coffee cup with hot coffee without even getting up.
 
4:13 PM
You bastard! shakes fist
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm pretty sure that is a violation of at least three different divine rules.
And hello.
 
The only rule I can think of that it violates, besides the "Don't make Kit jealous" rule, is the "Get off your ass from time to time or you'll die of fatness" rule.
 
The divine rule of BMI, yes.
Because everyone knows BMI is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
 
I'm not jealous. I'm envious.
tch
 
So you're jealous and pretentious...I see.
 
4:17 PM
punches left head
I'm trying to be nice today.
But I'm not really feeling it.
 
I, on the other hand, am in possession of a large quantity of bolognese sauce made by my aunt, so I am the opposite of envious.
@KitFox I was trying to be unnice, so I had it coming.
 
HOLY FUCK WHOEVER YOU ARE ANSWER YOUR GODDAMNED PHONE!
 
answers phone Hello there!
How may I be of service to you, greatest person alive on this planet?
 
@Cerberus not BMI. But it's true that sitting all day is not good for your health.
 
True.
I was considering running.
But....meh.
I've biked for about 35 minutes today.
At a fairly high speed.
 
4:31 PM
well, that's good
I neither bike nor run
but I think I will go for a brisk walk after lunch
better than nothing
 
Yeah.
How long will you walk?
It depends on what you want to achieve.
 
@Cerberus I want to become an idiolectual, and with this sentence I have accomplished it.
 
@ΜετάEd Uhh I am speechless.
That is possibly the ugliest word ever to have been invented!
 
@Cerberus My work here is done.
 
And also to the most idiolexic(al?) one.
 
4:42 PM
@Cerberus probably half an hour
won't have time for more
 
OK.
That is something.
Perhaps you will burn 100 kc or so?
Perhaps fewer.
 
cornbread ninja on September 17, 2012

Typography is all around us, every minute of every day.  I’m willing to bet that, this blog post notwithstanding, there are at least five different typefaces within reach of you at this moment.  I’m hedging my bet, because it’s probably closer to ten or fifteen.  You may think little or not at all of typography, but it is equally important to language as the spoken word.  By definition, typography is the study, use, and design of identical repeated letterforms.  Throughout history, these forms have taken shape and morphed from the shifting popularity and availability of writing implements and surfaces. …

 
I have Rush stuck in my head today.
I wonder what that's about.
 
maybe because you're learning Russian?
 
4:58 PM
Do you know any pdf to word converter that does not convert the document to a crappy text?
 
@MattЭллен Uh. Not really?
 
If the file is not too big.
 
Don't tell me that I have to retype my resume to add something to it.
@ChairOTP Owow, thank you. Let me try it.
 
Why have I seen in some websites that they write "mens", is that correct in any way?
 
@KitFox oh, well, I have no idea then. Puns are all I have.
 
5:03 PM
oh i get it
 
@KitFox any particular rush?
 
that's one of their not too annoying songs
@ChairOTP do you have context for this?
 
gives @Mr.Shiny a look
 
what?
It could be that they mean "men's" or maybe it's part of "mens rea" or something
 
5:06 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 This one: forever21.com/Product/Main.aspx?br=f21, to be exactly. My sister was taking a look at it, and the fact that they used "mens" caught my attention.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I meant the Rush comment, silly.
 
@ChairOTP I think it should be "Men's" but lots of stores leave out the ' when it's needed like that. I wouldn't have even noticed that it wasn't there.
@KitFox what, that the song isn't annoying, or the implication that they have annoying songs
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 so 'Mens' isn't correct by any means, right?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think maybe I should just not talk today.
 
Yes.
 
5:09 PM
@ChairOTP Er, well... given how much it's used in scenarios like the one you pointed out, it might even BE considered correct by some. I don't consider it correct.
@KitFox You didn't talk, you looked.
But I'm bad with body language
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then let's just say it isn't correct but it has the same connotation that men's.
 
@ChairOTP yeah. It's men's clothing.
 
@ChairOTP Yay! it worked. Thanks, you're an angel.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 }Thank you ;)
@Gigili You're welcome ;)
 
So, when writing sentences, it should be "men's" for sure. When writing signs, banners, headings, etc, it's common for the ' to go missing.
 
5:11 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 then I'll stick to men's in my case.
 
It looks funny in some cases. Like, there are lots of washroom signs that just say "MENS" on them. It should just say "MEN".
 
Funny it should come up, since I'm working on the blog article about possessive apostrophes.
 
It's funny because we normally use the word 'man' in Spanish to refer to someone, and once I saw in a washroom sign, it said "manes".
 
I need some cheesy music I think.
 
5:20 PM
Why cheesy music?
 
I don't know.
 
5:37 PM
How to state that you are doing an MSc in resume?
Student of master of computer science (of ...)?
 

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