English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

So the idea is that you want a back-up connection because you wouldn't want to have to use your mobile connection for accessing these Russian files in case of an emergency?

tchrist

3:19 AM

Hah.

No, I have static IP on the other line.

When you say mobile connection, you mean phone?

Cerberus

Yes.

tchrist

I don't have a smart phone.

Luddite, I know.

Cerberus

Yes.

You can even do it on a not-so-smart phone, by the way.

tchrist

Hm.

Cerberus

My friend's old Nokia can tether.

@Vitaly Oh, thanks!

tchrist

3:20 AM

Vitaly, what timezone are you in?

Vitaly

I'm in Moscow, and Vitaly ends in a consonant.

Cerberus

I haven't downloaded stuff in a while.

tchrist

I figure since you are doing command line stuff, you could actually ask it to grab whole directories if you wanted.

Cerberus

A semi-vowel, probably?

tchrist

I know it does.

My fingers were being weird.

I am very tired.

Now I feel funny talking about Russian servers.

Vitaly

3:21 AM

@Cerberus In the Russian tradition, й has always been a consonant.

tchrist

tvunderground.org.ru/index.php

Cerberus

@Vitaly OK.

tchrist

That is the TV–internet connection.

In English, y cannot be a consonant unless it is next to a vowel.

And even then, it is just a glide, /j/.

So in yellow or yes, but not in sky or happy.

Vitaly

(I mean as in traditionally analyzed as a ...)

@Cerberus I did mention something I liked once, actually.

Feb 2 '11 at 21:09, by Vitaly

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Cerberus

@Vitaly Ah, I remember, and I also remember in which context you posted this.

Vitaly

3:29 AM

@Cerberus And here I was thinking you didn't read the transcript.

Cerberus

I did not.

I didn't click the transcript link either.

I just remembered.

Listening now.

Vitaly

@Cerberus Well, click it now and make sure you are nowhere to be seen in the transcript. :P

Cerberus

You posted it in a different context as well.

Vitaly

The only possible inference is that you did read it.

Cerberus

Am I not correct?

Vitaly

3:31 AM

> in which context you posted this

Cerberus

About the Odd Feeling.

This music.

I can only find a link in our good, old Hub of Reason.

Vitaly

And, of course, this:

in War Metal Tyrant, Oct 21 '11 at 18:46, by Vitaly

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tchrist

Well that was interesting.

Cerberus

@Vitaly I am trying to find where you posted this video in the context of the Unnamed Feeling type A or B or whatever.

tchrist

The reason the typing was slow was not the upload.

Cerberus

3:38 AM

@tchrist By the way, do you experience anaesthesia?

@tchrist Oh?

tchrist

Something went screwy on my temp partition, and Safari was confused.

Cerberus

Oh, dear.

tchrist

It eventually locked, then crashed.

It is probably the chat client.

But I took the opportunity to do the full reboot thing, because I didn't like that my temp was messed up.

Now, what are you asking about anaesthesia?

Vitaly

in War Metal Tyrant, Dec 5 '11 at 20:27, by Robusto

In English you call ASMR "spine-tingling" ...

Theta30

i have voted

tchrist

3:40 AM

Voting is good.

Theta30

cakes are good too

Cerberus

@tchrist Yes or no?

Hey Bogdan.

tchrist

ASMR is not what I would call anaesthesia.

But do I get spine tingling bits?

Cerberus

in War Metal Tyrant, Dec 5 '11 at 20:20, by Vitaly

in English Language and Usage, Feb 2 at 21:09, by Vitaly

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@Vitaly See?

tchrist

Yes, I get ASMR.

Cerberus

3:42 AM

My memory is better than yours! @Vitaly

tchrist

I can induce it, even. It's a mental thing.

Cerberus

@tchrist No, it is unrelated, but...I just switched topic for no good reason.

tchrist

Oh.

What is this anaesthesia question then?

Vitaly

in War Metal Tyrant, Dec 5 '11 at 20:20, by Vitaly

and i can make it happen voluntarily (that is, without any external stimuli), though it takes a few repetitions to achieve the full intensity

Cerberus

@tchrist Really? So do you also get it when someone is explaining something to you?

tchrist

3:43 AM

Have I ever had some sort of anaesthesia?

I don't understand the question.

Cerberus

@tchrist Whether you experience it. I am thinking of the kind where you associate letters with colours.

tchrist

Halt!

That is not anaesthesia.

That is synaesthesia.

Cerberus

Ohh, did I say anaesthesia?

Haha.

Synaesthesia.

Vitaly

Hahaha.

tchrist

You said anaesthesia.

Hence my confusion.

Cerberus

3:44 AM

I guess my brain can be described with either term.

tchrist

Only of one specific and peculiar sort.

Cerberus

Which one is that?

tchrist

If I am in darkness, and I hear a loud noise, I see a bright flash that is not there.

Cerberus

Oh, yes.

I think most people have that.

tchrist

Really?

I have asked a lot of people.

Cerberus

3:45 AM

I think so. Not sure.

They may not be conscious of it.

tchrist

The only one who didn't think it was weird was a doctor friend of mine, who said it is not uncommon but that he forgets any specific name.

He doesn't think it is a problem.

Cerberus

It certainly isn't.

It always seemed the commonest thing in the world to me.

I can see it with eyes open too.

tchrist

Yes.

Cerberus

But it is different from associative synaesthesia in that it seems real.

tchrist

That's what they all say. :)

Cerberus

3:48 AM

How do you mean?

tchrist

I'm teasing.

Cerberus

I figured...

tchrist

Madmen always think their delusions real.

Cerberus

Oh, hehe.

tchrist

I know that what I am seeing is not there.

Cerberus

3:49 AM

Well, I never think my colours are real.

tchrist

Real thought it seems.

Hm.

Cerberus

They don't appear real at all.

tchrist

What colors? From music?

Cerberus

Very different from the flashes.

Vitaly

@Cerberus Hoist those bloomers of yours higher.

Cerberus

3:50 AM

Letters, numbers, weekdays, and everything that can be derived from those.

tchrist

Well at least it isn't aromas.

Hm.

What color is Tuesday? Blue or green?

Cerberus

@Vitaly I don't bear them. The letters do.

Oh, I thought you were referring to bearing colours, as in a uniform or a flag, possibly.

@tchrist Dark green.

tchrist

Which are the hot-color days?

Cerberus

How could it be blue?

tchrist

I don't know. It is a cool-color day though.

Cerberus

3:52 AM

Saturday is bright grey, Sunday bright yellow.

Friday is a fairly bright yellow too.

tchrist

Bright grey is a fairly oxymoronic notion.

Cerberus

I don't have any red days. Thursday is dark brown.

@tchrist Yes...but it is grey and bright at the same time.

tchrist

Grey is just devoid of spectral colors, a neutral. I guess it can be of any brightness.

Ultra bright grey is called white.

Ultra dark grey is called black.

At least, to a photographer.

Cerberus

Bright is more about exuding some kind of light.

tchrist

Well, that is the different between brightness and lightness.

Bright grey is called silver.

Because it reflects.

Cerberus

3:54 AM

Yes, it is silvery sometimes.

The colours are not exactly static.

tchrist

You need violet in your life.

Cerberus

I don't think I have any violets.

No numbers or letters either.

tchrist

As I said.

Cerberus

My mother has tons of brown everywhere.

I think her weekdays are nearly all brown.

tchrist

brown is a funny "color".

Cerberus

3:56 AM

Indeed.

tchrist

actually, color itself is a funny thing.

i know the colors of the rainbow.

Cerberus

So when do you get the Feeling? Do you get it when someone is explaining something to you?

tchrist

Yes, I understand with days of the week.

I don't have it with numbers or letters.

Cerberus

That's OK. We can't all be freaks.

tchrist

@Vitaly Do you use a Unix-style command line shell for your command line stuff?

Vitaly

4:06 AM

@tchrist I was using GHCi, which is the command-line Haskell interpreter.

tchrist

Ah, I see.

I wondered why it said Haskell. It is rather an exotic thing.

Vitaly

hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/HTTP/4000.0.5/doc/html/…

tchrist

Eek, it's 10:10, way past my bedtime.

I must away

ere break of day

to seek the pale enchanted gold.

See, very tired.

Good night all.

Or good morning, as the case appears to be for you guys.

Vitaly

Night. I think I'm waiting an hour more to see the Mars Rover semi-live.

tchrist

Oh drat, I know.

But I am too tired to stay up.

And would have to find it on the internet. No TV.

I will find out in the morning.

Sure hope it works.

Cerberus

4:17 AM

Eek.

It is late indeed.

Mahnax

Good evening, again.

Cerberus

Haha.

Good evening.

Mahnax

How are you all today?

Cerberus

Sleepy!

You?

Mahnax

I am doing well.

Cerberus

4:18 AM

You still have the night.

I trust you will use it well.

Mahnax

Yes indeed. I plan to stay up quite late tonight.

Cerberus

Why?

Mahnax

For the halibut.

Cerberus

Is that the Mars car?

Mahnax

Nope. It's a type of fish.

Cerberus

4:20 AM

I know.

I thought that might be the name of the car.

Heilbot in Dutch.

Mahnax

I know you know.

Cerberus

Good.

Mahnax

When one says just for the halibut it sounds like just for the hell of it to me. But it's less vulgar, if one considers hell to be vulgar.

Cerberus

Aren't you confusing the halibut with the tooth fairy?

Ahh.

I see.

Vitaly

It's Curiosity. Some might find the name alien, I know.

Cerberus

4:21 AM

I don't see how hell could be vulgar.

Alien?

Unless hell were something mainly said by certain kinds of undesirables.

Vitaly

@Cerberus Were? Unless?

Cerberus

Yes.

Are you objecting to the grammar or the concept?

Vitaly

I'm just thinking that the hypothetical isn't necessary there because you do hear hell said often in various churches.

Cerberus

I prefer it.

And do you mean necessary conceptually or grammatically?

@Vitaly But often elsewhere too.

Noah

6:03 AM

Hello

How is it going?

Mahnax

6:42 AM

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Q: What does it express "I would contact later"

What it means when someone texts "I would contact later" in the answer when she will contact and is this a polite expression or not?

Already posted, already closed.

Pratik

7:46 AM

what is the meaning of 'd in below sentence ??

i'd like that

Matt Эллен

it's short for would

"I would like that"

Matt Эллен

9:04 AM

Good morning!

kikio

9:18 AM

Hi!

Hammerite

Matt, I must say that I think that your treatment of my question was heavy-handed and rude. I note that user Laure posted a comment in which he or she suggested an answer that is different from what I had thought is the correct one, and I think that this could have been explored.

Matt Эллен

I'm sorry. I was not trying to be either of those things

What did you think was rude?

Hammerite

I feel that it was rude to delete your comment, when I had responded to it. I also feel that you asserted somewhat arbitrarily that the differences between my question and the one to which you referred were insufficient to mark it as not a duplicate, though I felt they might not be. I can respect that you feel the question is essentially a duplicate, but I asked it in the first place (knowing the answer to the other question) because the slight differences made me unsure.

Matt Эллен

Oh, the comment was deleted by the system when the question got closed. That wasn't my doing :)

Hammerite

I see. I did not realise that the system does that. I am sorry for accusing you of rudeness when it was not something you had done intentionally.

Matt Эллен

9:24 AM

No worries

@Hammerite I didn't realise you'd already seen the other question. I hope you feel sure now, about how to indicate possession. Is there any further explanation I can provide?

Hammerite

No, I feel that I have been reassured that what I thought was the correct answer is in fact the correct answer. But thank you.

Matt Эллен

Glad to be of assistance :)

user19161

9:50 AM

Carlo got suspended again? I just found out.

Noah

Hiiii

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy Apparently. He's been given time to cool off. Hopefully it'll help

Hello @Noah

user19161

@MattЭллен Well, if I met you in person I would tell you what I really think about this whole matter, but for now I will keep my mouth SHUT.

Matt Эллен

Fair enough!

Noah

@JasperLoy- Why did Carlo get suspended?

user19161

9:55 AM

@Noah You ask me? Well, probably his comments which were deemed overboard.

user19161

@noah Why is your accept rate so low? You don't find the answers given helpful?

Noah

@JasperLoy- No, I do, most of them. But I keep the rest open so that other can contribute to the SITE;)

RegDwight АΑA

Nothing prevents people from answering a question even if you mark one of the answers as accepted.

user19161

@Noah Protip: You cannot ping if you add the hyphen behind. More work = less work.

user19161

Therefore 0=1. QED.

Noah

10:01 AM

@RegDwightАΑA I see. But I keep pushing that green tick and it doesnt seem to be helping my acceptance rate...

@JasperLoy thanks.

user19161

@Noah Well, you have to wait a while before the changes are effected.

Noah

@JasperLoy probably till 2013

user19161

@Noah Maybe, I might be dead by then.

RegDwight АΑA

@Noah I think the accept rate is re-calculated once a day. So if you accept a couple answers right now, you'll only notice a change tomorrow.

Noah

@JasperLoy why are there so many people whose first starts with the letter J

user19161

10:03 AM

@Noah Well, it is a beautiful letter.

Noah

@RegDwightАΑA I will try that

@JasperLoy No, N is probably better than that...

@JasperLoy do you get pinged now?

user19161

@Noah Yes, I do. Ping works without flash installed now anyway.

user19161

Even some youtube videos can be viewed without flash now.

Noah

@JasperLoy I will try to ping you at 3:00 in the morning so that you forget about giving pro tips anymore:)

user19161

@Noah Sure, ping me all you want. I love getting pings.

Noah

10:06 AM

@JasperLoy so can we say RIP to FLASH?

Matt Эллен

I wash my floors with Flash

user19161

@Noah Not yet. Even in a few years it will still be in use. Hard to change the current situation. But it will become less predominant.

Matt Эллен

user19161

I like to flash myself to the mirror.

Noah

@MattЭллен what is your problem with Adobe? Did you happen to work with Steve Jobs by any chance?

Just dont get flashed!

Matt Эллен

10:09 AM

I've no problem with Adobe! I really do wash my floors with that :D

user19161

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Q: What is student discussion place called?

Is there any English (or in other languages) word for a place where students of different colleges discuss about activities (events, reputation) of their colleges/universities

single-word-requests vocabulary dictionaries thesaurus

Noah

@MattЭллен My floor is covered with carpet so I don't have to use that little bottle of yours :D

user19161

I am voting to close this as TL, or NR.

Noah

@JasperLoy I dont have to rights to close a question, so I will stay away from this business.

user19161

@Noah Yeah yeah.

Matt Эллен

10:11 AM

@JasperLoy Yes, I think Reg's point still stands. Most stuff is discussed at the student Union's bar, or some other bar

user19161

@MattЭллен And he asked about other languages too, lol.

Noah

@JasperLoy he might be a socially awkward student who doesn't know how to find friends:)

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy oh dear :D

user19161

By the way, Carlo said his email is in his profile, but there is none there. Am I supposed to guess?

user19161

@Noah I am very shy too, it's true.

Noah

10:13 AM

@JasperLoy do you wanna send him condolences?

user19161

@Noah No, but I might want to chat with him.

Noah

@JasperLoy that sounds interesting

user19161

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Q: touch his foot on

He touched his foot to the wet floor. He touched his foot on the wet floor. How are "to" and "on" different?

usage

user19161

Nortonn S @reg.

Noah

@JasperLoy Why is he so much in trouble with his foot?

Matt Эллен

10:16 AM

@JasperLoy I agree usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/175748-a.html

user19161

@MattЭллен He posted the symbols and then edited them out.

Noah

ERROR

The requested URL could not be retrieved

user19161

@matt CentOS is very slow, I wonder why, at starting and shutting down.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy it must be running a lot of services

@Noah yeah, I think it's a subcriber only site, or they've dleted it

user19161

@MattЭллен Services which I did not subscribe to, lol.

Matt Эллен

10:19 AM

Noah

@JasperLoy why dont you install Ubuntu? not that you should but just a thought.

user19161

@Noah Oh I am the Linux guru you see. I have installed over 9000 distros!

user19161

Just trying out.

Noah

@JasperLoy I see.

@JasperLoy I know how to use unix but I am not a guru, unless you were talking about The Love Guru

Matt Эллен

you can teach us how to love unix @Noah?

Noah

10:24 AM

0

Q: What does "a pop" mean?

when we say "For entertainment, she couldn’t go to the movies at $8 a pop", what "a pop" means?

meaning idioms meaning-in-context

@MattЭллен I probably could;)

Matt Эллен

D:

Noah

@MattЭллен isnt this a GR?

Matt Эллен

I believe so, yes

Noah

@MattЭллен At least I found a bug in the system :D lol

@MattЭллен he or she is a new member, lets not deter him or her

Matt Эллен

Well, we're only closing the question. not telling them to sling their hook.

RegDwight АΑA

10:31 AM

0

Q: What is different? TO vs. FOR vs. OF

The answer to the question. The answer for the question. The answer of the question. Which is grammatical? What is different? And what is the preferred usage?