The 2nd Monitor

TopinFrassi

6:00 PM

@DanPantry

Dan Pantry

I just got home, and i've been super busy, so I havne't had much time to work on the app frankly

Mat's Mug

lol

Ismael Miguel

@TopinFrassi I have a few beers in the fridge. Grab one, and celebrate

Mat's Mug

@IsmaelMiguel missing "oh, wait..."

Ismael Miguel

?

TopinFrassi

6:00 PM

@DanPantry We'll manage. I could check it out, I've got some JS magic at home.

Mat's Mug

> I have a few beers in the fridge. Grab one, and celebrate! oh, wait....

TopinFrassi

@IsmaelMiguel Thanks mate!

Mast

@DanPantry Why not?

^^

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@TopinFrassi Cool! Probably won't be able to participate, but that's a great idea!

Ismael Miguel

@Mat'sMug Still don't get it

@TopinFrassi No problem

TopinFrassi

6:02 PM

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Yeah, if it works well we'll be able to make that grow a little! And I'm suurrreeee you could participate. :p

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol

3

Ismael Miguel

Oh Windows, how I love your mistakes

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol

TopinFrassi

@IsmaelMiguel jajaja. (No, I don't understand what's happening)

Ismael Miguel

@TopinFrassi Size: 200 bytes. Size on disk: 0 bytes

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

6:05 PM

Normally it is the opposite

TopinFrassi

@IsmaelMiguel ooohhhhh lol

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel So, the entirety of it?

Ismael Miguel

@Mast What do you mean?

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel Very efficient storage.

@IsmaelMiguel It's one big mistake.

Ismael Miguel

@Mast Oh yeah. I've discoreved how to get infinite space.

Jeroen Vannevel

6:06 PM

    // Maximum size of tokens/trivia that we cache and use in quick scanner.
    // From what I see in our own codebase, tokens longer then 40-50 chars are
    // not very common.
    // So it seems reasonable to limit the sizes to some round number like 42.
    private const int MaxCachedTokenSize = 42;

Ismael Miguel

Step 1: Reduce everything to 200 bytes chunks
Step 2: Measure the size
Step 3: ...
Step 4: Profit!

TopinFrassi

@JeroenVannevel That makes no sense. But, 42's the answer to everything

Mast

@JeroenVannevel 42 is a round number nowadays?

TopinFrassi

@Mast It's 42 so... yeah

<reallyweird>. I can't connect to google, facebook, our web mail client nor the project's backlog, but Code Review's chat works like nothing was happening. Our network's </reallyweird>

Mat's Mug

I just replied this in an email to my boss:

> </panic> Thanks!

2

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

6:11 PM

lol

TopinFrassi

@Mat'sMug You forgot the opening bracket! :o

Mat's Mug

it was implied in the previous email ;-)

Ethan Bierlein

@TopinFrassi s/bracket/tag

Jeroen Vannevel

I'm seeing so many gotos in the roslyn source, I kind of want to start using them myself

Ethan Bierlein

no

don't

Zak

6:17 PM

@JeroenVannevel goto can goto Hell

Ethan Bierlein

I've looked at some of the Roslyn source code before. There were huge chunks of code that looked like it was written by six-year-olds.

Jeroen Vannevel

Look more closely and you'll see that it's actually really smart code

Mat's Mug

compilers are supposed to be smart, not pretty

Jeroen Vannevel

And I would wager that Roslyn is in fact rather pretty

Ethan Bierlein

@Mat'sMug Yes, but compilers can also be smart and pretty.

Just because it has to be smart, it doesn't mean that it can't be nice-looking.

Jeroen Vannevel

6:20 PM

It's been very interesting so far to see performance considerations implemented in it

Wait until my paper is finished and you can get a guidethrough

Mat's Mug

@EthanBierlein I'd think it's written with performance over readability in mind

Ethan Bierlein

I figured

Zak

I had no idea Death Star V2 was so much bigger than Death Star V1:

epicstream.com/videos/…

Ismael Miguel

You're talking about compilers like if they were woman

Mat's Mug

s/compilers/code ;-)

Ismael Miguel

6:34 PM

Too late to edit :/

Zak

@IsmaelMiguel Well, the singularity isn't that far off:)

Ismael Miguel

It's just off-by-1

Mat's Mug

@ShadowWizard give it 6-8 weeks — Mat's Mug 11 secs ago

Captain Obvious

7:02 PM

-1

Q: atm programming in C. only in deposit function

how to write whole the deposit function? cheque deposit log... sample output (iii) Transaction Logs: Print Cheques Deposited in which Month and Year (MM YYYY)? 10 2015 Cheques Deposited Log contents will be sent to the text file ChequeTxnsLog.txt LIST OF CHEQUES DEPOSITED Log Date & ...

c

Jamal

@CaptainObvious Good luck on finals.

2

Phrancis

@Jamal wow.

Ismael Miguel

How bad was it?

Phrancis

@IsmaelMiguel Scan of 4 pages of a homework, no code

Ismael Miguel

Wow

Phrancis

7:15 PM

> how to write whole the deposit function?

Ismael Miguel

That is a new low

Was a comment left?

Phrancis

Negative

Ismael Miguel

That isn't good at all

Phrancis

The close message was clear enough

OP clearly didn't bother even looking at the Tour, let alone the Help Center, before posting

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

yeah

Ismael Miguel

7:20 PM

Alright

Wasn't aware that it was closed

Jamal

The funny thing was that the first question (similarly off-topic) was self-deleted.

Ismael Miguel

Weird...

By the way

Is 439 a prime number?

Oh, nice

It is prime

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Is there a cleaner more efficient way to save data in MVC?

We have a lot of Controller ActionResults like this in our MVC project. The controllers get really cluttered up. This is a simple example, but we have much more complex ActionResults. This controller accepts a model, and if the primary key is Guid.Empty, handles it as an Add/Create. Otherwise it...

asp.net-mvc-5

EBrown

@Phrancis I need your SQL expertise...

Phrancis

@EBrown What's up?

EBrown

7:31 PM

I'm debating setting up an audit system in our SQL server.

Phrancis

OK

Duga

Perhaps better on codereview codereview.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic — Jasen 5 secs ago

Hosch250

@Jamal Due on the 11th, 40% of the class credit.

Wow.

Mat's Mug

wait, and the teacher requires a hard copy??

Hosch250

Digital submission and printout?

Mat's Mug

7:42 PM

let me guess, printed on a dot matrix printer?

Hosch250

Probably trying to save money. Many of my professors print my paper out for grading.

Mat's Mug

how does killing half an acre of trees per year save anyone money?

Hosch250

The professor doesn't have to pay for the paper and ink.

They are shifting the cost onto the student.

Ethan Bierlein

They do something like that at my school. If you want to print a black & white document, it's 5 cents, and if you want to print a color document, you have to pay 15 cents., per sheet for both.

Duga

I think my post "is not about a particular piece of code and instead is a generally applicable question" (quote from codereview.stackexchange.com) — m4xy 35 secs ago

Hosch250

7:48 PM

I have only had to turn in a hard copy for one class - statistics.

The teacher mailed the tests to the library, and I had to go to the library and take the test, then mail it back.

Ethan Bierlein

lol. That seems like an inefficient system.

Duga

I think this is probably better for codereview.stackexchange.com. The strategy pattern might be helpful in this context though: sourcemaking.com/design_patterns/strategy. — axlj 49 secs ago

Hosch250

My main library was down (Wildwood brach, Washington County) at the beginning of the semester do to water damage (their fire sprinklers went off).

We got to drive down to the RH Stafford library. That was a nice library.

Ethan Bierlein

Water damage doesn't sound good, especially in a library.

Hosch250

No. IIRC, they had to replace a bunch of books and their computers.

And their carpet, but the replace the carpet every couple years anyway.

And, a lot of the books were really trashed, so it was kind of nice, in a way.

skiwi

7:53 PM

Just got an answer on an old SO question of mine...

2

Q: PDO Use MySQL's NOW()

How would I use MySQL's NOW() in PDO prepared statements, or how would I workaround using it while keeping in mind that possibly the Apache Server and Database Server might have either a slightly current time mismatch (few seconds), or in rare occasions might be timezones apart? I have the follo...

php mysql sql pdo

Frankly, I'm confused by my past self

janos

Go on, continue with your ideas. Good luck. — Your Common Sense Dec 20 '13 at 12:38

Hosch250

@skiwi You earned my first star of the day.

@janos Now is that sarcasm, or no?

janos

@Hosch250 hard to tell...

skiwi

I still remember that guy pissing me off :P

Ethan Bierlein

@janos Oh hey, the last time I checked on that user they still had a year left in their ban.

Ismael Miguel

8:01 PM

@EthanBierlein Sorry to bother you, but do you know Javascript? I desperatelly need help

Ethan Bierlein

Somewhat. What do you need help with?

Ismael Miguel

Come to the Javascript libraries room

Ethan Bierlein

Where's the room?

Ismael Miguel

Web Development

Everything Web

skiwi

@EthanBierlein :o more information about that?

Ethan Bierlein

8:08 PM

Not really.

Phrancis

@skiwi MySQL datetime gets even more fun when you introduce time zones :D

skiwi

Well, luckily I've learned my lessons since then: Stay away from PHP and MySQL

Phrancis

lol, ikr

Mat's Mug

> for some values of "fun"

Phrancis

It's most fun on Feb 31st

skiwi

8:11 PM

What does Feb 31st give?

Ismael Miguel

@skiwi Syntax Error!

Phrancis

Depends on your settings

skiwi

@Phrancis Always fun when the answer starts with "it depends..."

Phrancis

SET SESSION sql_mode='STRICT_ALL_TABLES,ALLOW_INVALID_DATES';
create table test (testdate datetime);
insert into test(testdate) values ('2015-02-31');

^ works with no complaints

But when you select it back, you get '2015-03-03'

Duga

Are you asking for questions, or do you just want a code review? There's a separate site for code reviews: codereview.stackexchange.com — Bryan Oakley 31 secs ago

Phrancis

8:23 PM

But if you change the sql_mode session variable (yes, session variable!) to '' (nothing) when it will truntate 2015-02-31 to '0000-00-00` in the table

Using sqlfiddle I got this

> Value '0000-00-00 00:00:00' can not be represented as java.sql.Timestamp

Captain Obvious

-2

Q: Weather android application

I'm trying to study many subjects of programming by myself, and sometimes I find it difficult to know if I'm in the right direction in my understaning. I haven't found any rules on posting on this web site, and I hope it's reasonable to ask to evaluate not a small amount of code. Hopefully, anyon...

oop android

0

Q: Using factory pattern to create email templates

Firstly I try to explain my model. I have 3 type of notifications which can have N types of email templates related to a specific status. NotifySupervisor(Vacation vacation); NotifyAdministration(Vacation vacation); NotifyApplicant(Vacation vacation); I've created a type of Factory. I don't c...

c#

0

Q: Q learning with Flappy bird

My final assignment Intro to AI is to take a pygame Flappy Bird and modify it to learn to fly itself. I'm having trouble with my implementation as it doesn't seem to be learning much at all. Without cluttering the page with the game code I will just give the main method (my alterations are note...

python ai machine-learning

skiwi

@Phrancis That's rather... odd

rolfl

That's fairly typical for SQL. I wonder if it is part of the definition.

Mat's Mug

except on SQL Server I'd expect you get this:

Conversion failed when converting date and/or time from character string.

Phrancis

8:38 PM

^ correct

Mat's Mug

woah, 1934 views!

titles-ftw

SEJPM

stupid question for you guys: Did there actually was anything t-shirt related when you got your site-design?

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Simple calculator which can operate on more than two numbers on python:

All the calculator programs I have seen so far seem long, complicated and they can only operate on TWO numbers. Here is mine; simple short and it can operate on as many numbers as you want. Please tell me if there is another way to improve this section of code? x=[] amount=int(input("How many nu...

python

Phrancis

8:53 PM

@SEJPM 6-8 weeks is what we were told

SEJPM

@Phrancis as usual, thanks :)

Phrancis

Nov 26 at 2:16, by Pops

@rolfl Yes, graduation swag is a thing that happens. I don't think we've changed it from "top two pages of users" but if we did change it and I somehow didn't notice (since people keep asking) then it's whatever the current standard is. You have 6-8 weeks to fight with each other to make the cutoff.

Duga

possible answer invalidation by Ekult3k on question by Ekult3k: codereview.stackexchange.com/posts/113256/revisions

Mat's Mug

@Phrancis if @rolfl is in any danger of not getting graduation swag, we have a problem

ok, what am I missing here?

Except, the code you posted has 3 identical implementations. Please post your actual code. — Mat's Mug ♦ 3 mins ago

Phrancis

@Mat'sMug the Body is huge. It's just going to confuse you more, it's pretty simple, bodies and subjects are different for every template and it's in german, so not gonna help you mmuch, but I added for one template an attachment property. — Daniel Groh 2 mins ago

Make sense, I guess

Mat's Mug

9:04 PM

yeah, except if one wanted to try to refactor it into an abstract factory, they'd be getting the "yeah but my real code does xyz" comment

Duga

possible answer invalidation by Joe on question by Joe: codereview.stackexchange.com/posts/113302/revisions

Phrancis

Ah, I see

Mat's Mug

It does not matter how huge your code is, this site has about double the character limit of other Stack Exchange sites. Stub/hypothetical code is off-topic, and otherwise boiled-down, stripped-of-context and MCVE'd code is severely frowned upon. If someone wanted to help you refactor into an abstract factory, they'd be getting the infuriating "yeah, well, thanks but my real code does XYZ and so this doesn't apply" comment on their answer. Besides, if it's as huge as you say it is, there's a not-so-slim chance that your class might have too many responsibilities - something we can't see now. — Mat's Mug ♦ 6 secs ago

Phrancis

		select @ExecuteSQL = aq_selectsql + char(13) + char(10) + aq_fromsql + char(13) + char(10) + aq_wheresql

		from #artqueries

		where aq_id = @loopcounter

Scary

Ethan Bierlein

ew

skiwi

9:14 PM

@Phrancis Whhhhat does it do?

Phrancis

The fact that it's pretty meta doesn't override the fact that it's building dynamic SQL queries by truncating fragments of queries from fields in a temp table... in a loop...

Captain Obvious

0

Q: web scraping with python

Hi I'm quite new to python and my boss has asked me to scrape this data however it is not my strong point so i was wondering how i would go about this. The text that I'm after also changes in the quote marks every few minutes so I'm also not sure how to locate that. I am using beautiful soup at...

python html web-scraping beautiful-soup

Duga

Maybe, but wouldn't I want a build system where I can produce a build locally similar to how it would be done by my build server? Why should I have to wait to submit code, have the server make the build, deploy it and only then find out my program has a runtime error or something I want to change about it? It's a waste of commits, code reviews and time. :) — sgarg 59 secs ago

Duga

9:39 PM

@ivan_pozdeev All you've shown is that it isn't even a thing yet. If you can demonstrate that five people can reliably close such questions on a consistent basis, then we might have some standing for discussing the close reason's merit. The reality, however, is quite different; 95 to 99 percent of all questions identified by the Duga bot as suggestions for migration to Programmers or Code Review are not only unsuitable for migration, but also closeable under SO rules. That's not a stellar track record. — Robert Harvey ♦ 26 secs ago

Phrancis

@Duga Ain't that the truth

holroy

How do you create a room an invite a new user into it?

I've managed to create the room, but how invite someone?

Phrancis

holroy

Where is that menu?

Phrancis

I think they need to be in chat first though, unless a mod does a super-ping

Oh, click on the user's profile in chat

holroy

9:47 PM

He's not in chat, yet... I think...

Phrancis

What is their user name?

holroy

Joe

Phrancis

lol

holroy

Not the one with 74.4K rep...

Phrancis

There's 29 pages worth of "Joe" :)

Probably easiest to send a link to the room in a post comment or something like that

holroy

9:51 PM

@Phrancis Can I use the link from my browser address line directly, or should I use some other link?

/me has already tried with the link from the address bar...

Phrancis

http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/8595/the-2nd-monitor

Should work fine

holroy

OK... I'll just have to wait and see if he responds then...

Phrancis

or whatever your room link

RoboSanta

0

A: Trying to Simplify a Java Method

I will just scetch how to approach your problem, but leave the gory implementation details up to you: to avoid duplicate code which differs only in the direction in comparison a<b or a>b, you refactor that part of the code out into a function with an additional int parameter sign. sign should b...

Captain Obvious

-2

Q: SIGSEGV in a simple program

I have this loop ll t,n,total,answer[2][1025]; int arr[100001]; memset(answer,0,sizeof(answer)); memset(arr,0,sizeof(arr[0]*n)); for(int i=1; i<n; i++) { for(int j=0; j<=1024; j++) { int index1=(i-1)%2; int index2=j^arr[i]; ll pre1=answer[index1][j]%MOD; l...

c++

0

Q: How to write pluck function without using map function?

The pluck function below is based on map function, how to rewrite the pluck function so it doesn't use map function? in other words, how to write a function using for loop that do the same work? _.map = function(collection, iterator) { var result = []; _.each(collection,function(valu...

javascript callback

Donald.McLean

10:11 PM

Really? A Santa-bot?

2

holroy

@Donald.McLean He's giving us random question/answers to review or look at again!

Ismael Miguel

Usually accepted answers without upvotes

janos

He has a user profile that explains everything y'know....

holroy

@IsmaelMiguel I've never gotten around to checking out what he actually gives us. I just registered his gifts!

Ismael Miguel

I checked around the gifts. Sometimes they are cool

Mast

10:15 PM

@holroy Not random.

They are accepted answers with a score of 0.

One is posted every day, 23:00 CET.

holroy

@Mast I was a little trigger happy there. Should have checked a little more before answering...

Mast

Happens to the best of us.

holroy

Can someone with a little more rep than me, check if the new question is any better than the previously deleted (on-hold) question by Jarrod McCulloch?

New question is incoming:

-2

Q: scraping web page using python

Hi I'm quite new to python and my boss has asked me to scrape this data however it is not my strong point so i was wondering how i would go about this. The text that I'm after also changes in the quote marks every few minutes so I'm also not sure how to locate that. I am using beautiful soup at...

python web-scraping beautiful-soup

If not any big changes, then someone might need to educate him a little...

Jamal has closed it...

Mast

Regardless of the previous version, this one has some serious issues.

holroy

How much rep do you need to see deleted questions?

Is that at 10K? with access to moderator tools?

Yes, it is! Found it...

Captain Obvious

10:24 PM

-3

Q: scraping web page using python

Hi I'm quite new to python and my boss has asked me to scrape this data however it is not my strong point so i was wondering how i would go about this. The text that I'm after also changes in the quote marks every few minutes so I'm also not sure how to locate that. I am using beautiful soup at...

python web-scraping beautiful-soup

Phrancis

I concur with @Mast, this might be salvageable for Stack Overflow if they can describe their specific issue better (e.g., error/exception messages, wrong data, etc.) but definitely not ready for CR

holroy

@CaptainObvious Too late @CaptainObvious. This is already closed!

Hosch250

Oh boy, was that a freaky exam.

I'd never really gotten BCNF normalization, and I had to describe it in my exam.

Fortunately, I'd studied it about 3 times already, and it finally clicked.

I'm now done with my DB class. If I get 100% on this quiz, I'll have gotten 100% on the entire class.

TheCoffeeCup

Hello.

Phrancis

@Hosch250 That's super, great work!

holroy

10:39 PM

Hello

TheCoffeeCup

How's it going?

sigh Eclipse, really?!

holroy

10:55 PM

@TheCoffeeCup Slowly?

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Scanning multiple huge files in Python (follow-up)

I'm trying to implement an algorithm able to search for multiple keys through ten huge files in Python (16 million of rows each one). I've got a sorted file with 62 million of keys, and I'm trying to scan each ten file in dataset to look for a key and its value. This is a follow-up code on feedb...

python data-structures file search time-limit-exceeded

0

Q: Mobile First, Responsive Layout, HTML & CSS Structure

I am rebuilding the front-end for an application that I am building and have the content laid out the way I need. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to improve the structure, specifically the header section) with web standards in mind. You can view the Fiddle here. - Apologies, I could ...

html css html5

Ismael Miguel

@TheCoffeeCup Just 71.5%?

TheCoffeeCup

@IsmaelMiguel JUST???

Ismael Miguel

Yeah

TheCoffeeCup

11:11 PM

@IsmaelMiguel Your computer CPU must be bad, then. (no offence)

Ismael Miguel

CPU?

No no no...

No

No no no no...

I have an APU

Not a CPU

A really good APU

TheCoffeeCup

Are you sure? Then why is 71.5% just?

Ismael Miguel

Last time I used Eclipse, it would just burn 100% out of my Intel Code2Duo (2.00GHz)

TheCoffeeCup

@IsmaelMiguel wow.

Ismael Miguel

Yeah, pretty bad

Duga

11:16 PM

You might want to check if the codereview community on stack exchange is a good place to ask this question (as soon as your current code is doing what it is expected to do) — Marged 42 secs ago

Quill

So I left 2nd monitor open when I went home yesterday

Ismael Miguel

I may have some guilt in there

TheCoffeeCup

@Quill lol

Quill

I had 22 pings (I got on at home later)

Hosch250

Not a bad number.

Quill

11:20 PM

but yeah... (dat's a lot of traffic)

Hosch250

1231 is actually a nice number.

Ismael Miguel

If you waited 2 minutes, you would have 1234 messages

Hosch250

That also is a nice number.

Quill

or I could've waited for it to become 1331

Hosch250

Well, if there was a debate going on, it might have been closer to 1331 (another nice number).

Mast

11:21 PM

The joy of high-level applications, you can't debug them...

Hosch250

@Mast What's up?

Mast

OLog. Looks like the page is rendering but the data isn't arriving at the DB.

Hosch250

Why can't you debug it?

Mast

I have no idea what part is causing the trouble.

Hosch250

Time to start the debugger and trace the process from start to finish.

EBrown

11:24 PM

Ever since Microsoft took over Skype it's been buggy as hell.

Hosch250

You'll probably find three+ errors.

Quill

@EBrown I have so many issues with Skype

for example: \*test\*

EBrown

Mine has been "Not responding" for hours.

Quill

should render: *test*

Hosch250

@EBrown Why didn't you restart it, instead of waiting for this long?

Mast

11:25 PM

That ^^

Quill

but it renders \*test\*

Hosch250

@Quill Does Skype support markdown?

EBrown

@Hosch250 I didn't know it was in this state until I went to task manager.

Hosch250

What happens when you do *test*?

Quill

@Hosch250 No, it doesn't

It turns to bold

EBrown

11:26 PM

@Hosch250 It bolds it.

Hosch250

Then that is markdown, isn't it?

Mast

@Hosch250 Yea, well, we're trying deploying a WAR. Not sure you can even debug those.

Hosch250

A sort of subset of markdown?

EBrown

@Hosch250 That one item, sure.

Quill

not really

bolding items with asterisks is earlier than markdown

EBrown

11:27 PM

It also supports _italic_.

Hosch250

Are you guys on Windows 10?

EBrown

I am.

Hosch250

If you turn on the insider thing, you can give feedback.

Quill

and if you have characters that make an emoji on the end of a link, it turns it into an emoji anyway, which effectively ruins the query string

Hosch250

About applications as well as Windows itself.

Time to restart. BBIAB.

Quill

11:28 PM

The only way to turn it off is through an XML file too

Mat's Mug

TTQW

Jeroen Vannevel

you can just turn off emoticons in skype's settings

Quill

@JeroenVannevel emoticons yeah, but not formatting in general

Duga

move to codereview.stackexchange.com ? — drets 30 secs ago

possible answer invalidation by 200_success on question by Frank Tudor: codereview.stackexchange.com/posts/45518/revisions

Quill

11:51 PM

@Duga just converting to a snippet, it's fine

Ismael Miguel

@Duga ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!!! The snippet is crashing IE!!!

nhgrif

Any PHP devs looking for work?

like a job

Quill

try the php room on SO

Ismael Miguel

I'm not but carry on

Quill

there's not really any serious PHP developers here (besides ismael)

Ismael Miguel

11:55 PM

...

That hurts :/

Quill

Are you PHP employed?

Ismael Miguel

Yup

Quill

oh shit

nhgrif

Are there any serious PHP developers anywhere?

Ismael Miguel

3 years now

Quill

11:56 PM

my bad

Ismael Miguel

Sadly, it isn't just PHP

Quill

@nhgrif s/serious/not foolish/

Ismael Miguel

MySQL, CSS, HTML, Javascript (+jQuery)

nhgrif

We need U.S. citizens. We have hired some non-U.S. citizens as private contractors, but they also don't live/work in the country, and I think we are looking for non-remote for the PHP positions.

Quill

he lives in portugal

nhgrif

11:57 PM

We're also looking for people who are at, close-to, or above my level in Objective-C/iOS.

Ismael Miguel

Yup

Quill

@nhgrif you won't really find that around here

Ismael Miguel

But I have in mind to go to U.S.A.

As soon as I'm fired