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Anonymous
2:00 PM
Not me. Sounds silly.
 
@DamkerngT. It can be fully a verb. Are you going to stuff the turkey?
 
No, I feel sorry for the turkey!
 
Anonymous
Because you read The Black Swan!
 
:D
 
Hehe.
 
2:01 PM
Besides, the white meat always dries out if you actually stuff the turkey for roasting.
 
Anonymous
I don't stuff turkeys.
 
I do occasionally stuff pork chops though.
 
Anonymous
@GATA Stuff is a complex-transitive verb that can take a PP complement (with ...) or an AdjP complement (full of ...) with a resultative interpretation
 
Anonymous
Compare paint, which can take a resultative AdjP: "The house was painted blue"
 
Anonymous
Usually verbs that take complements of this kind take a fairly narrow range of AdjPs specific to that verb
 
Anonymous
2:08 PM
In "The house was painted blue", blue is an adjective which describes the state of the house which is a result of the act of painting
 
Anonymous
Or "She jerked the door open" or "He drained that sucker dry" or "She shot the bird dead" or "Kim knocked him senseless"
 
Anonymous
When you passivize it: "The door was jerked open" "That sucker was drained dry" "The bird was shot dead" "He was knocked senseless", the resultative AdjP appears directly after the verb
 
This reminds me of ZZ's question (the "for" one).
 
Anonymous
And there's an overlap syntactically between passive verbs and adjectives.
 
@snailboat Thank you :) I had never heard of complex-transitive or resultative AdjP. you made it very clear. Once I thought "Stuffed full of" is a pharsal verb or an idiom.
 
2:13 PM
I think fill is a good stand-in for stuff. I believe that you're more familiar with fill.
 
Yes
 
A pan filled full of corn was in the kitchen.
 
Anonymous
Well now, that one sounds relatively silly to me. You could just say "A pan full of corn" :-)
 
Anonymous
Or "filled with corn"
 
I didn't invent the noun phrase myself.
 
Anonymous
2:14 PM
Sure. Like all speakers, I think some stuff sounds silly, even stuff other people actually say :-)
 
I see. That's possible. :)
 
Anonymous
I'm entitled to make that sort of judgment, just like Jolene is, or whoever else wants to state what their intuition says
 
@DamkerngT. That was a good example. I think emphatic phrases are a little tricky to analyze.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Where's it from, out of curiosity?
 
Anonymous
2:18 PM
CGEL lists filled (full of) as an example of a complex-transitive verb with an optional resultative
 
This one is a bit funny...
> She is so filled full of wine she can barely stand, ...
 
Anonymous
Ooh, 150 years old.
 
Anonymous
It sounds sound a bit dated.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Although I wouldn't speak that way myself, I kind of like the way the phrasing sounds
 
Heehee. I think it was funny because she must have had lots of wine!
 
Anonymous
2:21 PM
The resultatives, syntactically speaking, are predicative complements (which is why they're sometimes referred to as "secondary predicates")
 
Anonymous
So they can take the form of an AdjP or a NP
 
Change wine to some food, and I think we can use stuffed in place of filled there.
 
Anonymous
Although since the individual verb places requirements on what sorts of complements work, a NP may not always be possible
 
@DamkerngT. then wouldn't it imply that she was forced to eat.
 
No, I think she didn't have to.
 
Anonymous
2:24 PM
Nah, stuff isn't necessarily a forcible action. You might stuff yourself full of candy ;-)
 
Or chocolates!
nom nom
 
with pleasure :-)
 
Anonymous
When you say, as Jolene said earlier, "I'm stuffed!", it doesn't mean that someone forcibly put you in that state. Most likely, you ate until you were full, and then some!
 
Anonymous
The food was probably really tasty.
 
I see.
I had misinterpreted it.
 
2:31 PM
Speaking of something old, do people still interject Bah!?
 
Anonymous
I've seen it online.
 
Anonymous
I can't remember of the top of my head the last time I heard it.
 
Anonymous
But if people type it, someone probably says it still.
 
@GATA It probably says something about the overindulgence of the typical American, but "I'm stuffed!" is a very common thing to say, especially after a special dinner.
 
I couldn't find Mwahaha! in dictionaries!
 
2:33 PM
I say Bah! I write it too! I've probably used it more days than not.
 
Anonymous
Yay! See, there you go.
 
Hah! That's nice to know. Thank you both of you.
 
@Jolenealaska Thanks :) I will insert that as an example into my new words list.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. You probably won't be able to find many transcriptions of laughter in dictionaries. Maybe one or two. Ha, perhaps? :-)
 
Anonymous
Let alone maniacal villain laughter.
 
Anonymous
2:34 PM
Mwa, ha ha!
 
I found Mwah as the sound of a kiss.
 
Anonymous
Yep! Not quite the same Mwa, though :-)
 
Not a real kiss i think.
 
Interesting. I couldn't categorize the types of kisses.
But definitely not a french kiss.
 
:) I am not a expert either.
Usually I hear Mwah in movies when girls kiss each other remotely.
 
2:39 PM
Apparently, someone can write a whole book about kisses.
@GATA Ah, yes. -- nods
 
:)
 
Rating 4.67!
It's rare to find anything above 4.3 on Goodreads!
 
Must be really useful :)
 
Must be. It must be so! -- Should I buy one? :)
 
:D
 
2:45 PM
Speaking of stuffed, I made the most awesome brownies this weekend. I have eaten waaaay to much chocolate today. I had better give some of these away soon. I think I could eat the whole batch if I kept it around. These are good brownies.
 
It would be nice, if you could throw some of the brownies around the globe with them landed in front of my house. They sure sound delicious!
 
three different kinds of chocolate...Cook's Illustrated Chewy Brownie recipe...YUM!
 
I bought 6 ice-cream yesterday, I ate all of them now I am ice-cream-less :(
 
Hah! All six of them?
 
6 ice cream? Six pints? Six scoops?
 
Anonymous
2:50 PM
Since ice cream is a mass noun, we usually say things like "a pint of ice cream" or "a carton of ice cream"
 
Anonymous
We don't know how much each unit is unless you tell us.
 
Six cups, maybe.
 
6 ice cream sandwiches?
 
cup? It was on a wooden stick.
 
Oh, six sticks!
 
2:51 PM
Ah six POPS!
 
we call them pop?
 
I usually picked the cups instead of the pops (or sticks).
 
That's a regional thing. Bars or pops.
 
thanks.
 
Anonymous
I call them ice cream bars.
 
2:53 PM
@snailboat Thank you for suggestion :)
 
It's like carbonated beverages...
 
Anonymous
Soda, pop, coke, soda pop, gross
 
Pops if you're from Iowa!
 
Oh, its URL is not friendly enough.
 
I think bars are more common (according to Google images)
 
2:58 PM
Yes, I think bars is more common for ice cream. Soda is more interesting:
 
And also according to label on the ice-cream warp in the bin its call Stickbar. (I washed my hands)
 
What about cones?
 
I've never heard "stickbar".
Cones are different.
The brand Drumsticks might be cones, but usually that's only if you go somewhere and they they scoop it into a cone (or serve soft-serve)
 
Ice cream comes in different forms and flavors.
 
sorry for the quality.
 
3:04 PM
I've never seen that :)
The only cone I've seen that you buy like that is this brand:
 
I found HAAGEN-DAZ Cookies & Cream Stick Bar! -- milestonemart.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/index/…
 
I got hungry. I think I need to go out and buy another pack :)
 
@Jolenealaska I found some picture showing Kit Kat's ice creams too!
Heehee. :D
 
This is what we would typically call a bar (or Pop in some places):
 
Talking about ice cream might not be a good idea. :-)
 
3:07 PM
 
:)
 
Magnum! I think it must be Wall's.
 
We call the magnum too.
 
Those are the best :)
 
Indeed :)
 
3:11 PM
Damn! The news just announced that they still can't find the plane! They've covered almost all of the expected search area - still no plane!
 
I didn't follow up that news lately. So, they still can't find it?!
 
And they're flummoxed. They've looked where they expected to find it. It's not there.
 
That's really strange.
I thought they could pinpoint the location already.
 
So did they.
 
Some says it was planned. mostly in commenting section of websites.
 
3:16 PM
You mean that the disappearance was a conspiracy? Or that the search is being intentionally ineffective?
 
first one :)
It sounds silly but that's what they say. every one wants to tell a story that satisfy its mind.
 
Hmmph. The Boston Marathon is today. I spent a lot of time on the IMDb politics board around the time of the bombing last year. I wanted to crack the heads together of the idiots that said it was all a fake, the "injured" and "dead" were actors.
 
It was one year already?
 
Anonymous
I don't really know what possesses people to say things like that.
 
lol that's beyond my imaginations capabilities.
 
3:20 PM
Oh, indeed. Time indeed flies.
 
And it hit a lot of us hard. The idiots were being very insensitive.
Yeah, some people insist that we've never landed on the moon and 911 was an inside job.
 
Anonymous
Say, why do you suppose these answers are downvoted?
 
Anonymous
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Q: How can I interpret "from" in this case?

username901345I have a question about "from across the street" in the following quote: Should he really send in his explanation? He wondered about it. If nobody believed him, and in this case that would be understandable, he could bring Mrs. Grubach in as a witness, or even the old pair from across the str...

 
Hmph!
I disagree, Josh agrees with me. And what you are saying corresponds with what I am saying up there. — username901345 17 hours ago
Is this a clue?
 
Anonymous
I can't tell what he's talking about. Can you?
 
3:24 PM
I think KCH and Josh61 said the same thing.
 
Anonymous
Me too, pretty much.
 
So I don't know what the disagreement was about.
 
I think the downvoter is just wrong. Actually, "the man from Africa" is a pretty good way to put it.
 
Anonymous
Well, I previously upvoted both answers.
 
And I don't why KCH had to say this:
Yes I am British. — KCH 17 hours ago
 
Anonymous
3:25 PM
Probably in response to a now-deleted comment.
 
Anonymous
Cf.
 
Anonymous
Coz if you are not a native speaker, then I want to know it. — username901345 17 hours ago
 
What did he mean by that?
 
Btw, I got an odd comment from this userlotsanumber.
 
Anonymous
It was probably also a response to something that's been deleted.
 
Anonymous
3:26 PM
userbunchofnumbers tends to be hostile toward other users.
 
@DamkerngT. Finally you and i agree on something. — username901345 yesterday
I don't know why "finally" was necessary.
 
Anonymous
By the way, you can't put a semicolon there.
 
In fact, I don't know why the comment was necessary at all. :-)
 
Anonymous
I read it like this: Please tell me about all these things; whatever source you may know them (all these things) from.Damkerng T. yesterday
 
Anonymous
The thingies on both sides of the semicolon should be complete sentences.
 
3:27 PM
@snailboat Would it be fine if I edit my question and include your answer about stuff?
 
Ah, I see. I think I did it instinctively.
 
Anonymous
@GATA Um, it might be confusing if you edited an answer into your question. You could write an answer to your own question if you think it's an answer.
 
The OP can answer their own questions too. It's okay.
 
@snailboat Oh OK. Thanks.
 
It's more than OK, it's encouraged.
 
3:29 PM
thanks :)
 
Ah, yes. I think I've read that too.
 
Although, some people don't realize that and it pisses them off.
Then the mods come in.
And set them straight.
More news - The crew of the ferry, including the Captain, are in police custody.
 
The Korean ferry?
 
Yep
They've been arrested.
 
I see. Thanks. I think that's the way it ought to be.
(Don't know why my fingers typed that s.)
Back to the "from" question, I think it's really odd. It seems like everyone agrees with everyone else. Why the arguments (and downvotes)?
 
3:36 PM
I wonder if Korea has a separate maritime law. In some countries it's quasi-military. Different rules than civilian courts. ----- I think someone is just reading it wrong. The "man from Africa" line puts it perfectly.
 
nods for the 'man from Africa'
I don't know much about Korea's maritime laws.
 
There are a few users here who will stand by wrong ideas until they're blue in the face.
 
Hehe.
 
It seems that the Italian captain is facing a normal civilian court. He is looking at 30-some-odd charges of manslaughter.
 
Oh!
 
3:40 PM
@snailboat It was your effort. Would you please do it yourself. I don't feel good about harvesting others points. just copy-paste it.
2 hours ago, by snailboat
@GATA Stuff is a complex-transitive verb that can take a PP complement (with ...) or an AdjP complement (full of ...) with a resultative interpretation
 
So, if that's a precedent (which, being a different country, it really isn't) the captain of the ferry could be looking at life in prison.
 
nods
 
@snailboat its perfect already :)
 
It seems like snailboat is busy with something else. Maybe for a while.
 
I will wait :) i don't know why it didn't occur to me to say it earlier. I completely forgot about it.
 
3:49 PM
But I have a hunch that snailboat wouldn't mind if you wrote an answer based on that message.
:)
 
I am sure :) I just don't want to look selfish.
 
One more comment on the shipwrecks: (from Wiki)
Abandoning a ship in distress may be considered a crime that can lead to imprisonment. Hence, Captain Francesco Schettino, who left his ship in the midst of the Costa Concordia disaster, was not only widely reviled for his action, but was arrested by Italian authorities on criminal charges.
] Abandoning ship is a maritime crime that has been on the books for centuries in Spain, Greece and Italy.[3] It appears South Korean law may also require the captain to rescue himself last.[4]
In the United States, it is not explicitly illegal, but the captain could be charged with other crimes, such as manslaughter. It is also not illegal under international maritime law.[5]
 
Anonymous
I'll do it, but I'd like to eat first :-)
 
Thanks. :D
I do apologize for troubling you again with my endless questions.
 
4:14 PM
Have fun guys. Cya later! :)
 
@Jolenealaska Cya :)
 
See you soon!
 
4:43 PM
I just saw this. The headmaster of the school of the kids that died in the ferry was among the rescued. He has killed himself, wracked with survivor's guilt. The Vice Headmaster's body has been recovered, he died on the ferry. I'm betting the captain will kill himself too. He has issued an apology, and it sounds pretty suicidal.
 
 
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5:51 PM
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A: Continuous and until

Josh61Yes, you can you continuous tense with until. The first sentence is fine As for he second sentence , I prefer the present tense see instead of to be seeing. The use of the present tense with the verb to see is more natural in my opinion.

It might be just me, but I think I won't be seeing Judy until ... and I won't see Judy until ... have a little different meanings.
I think I won't be seeing Judy ... suggests dating; however, it might not be necessary.
 

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