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12:00 AM
> "Pretty soon."
"Well, I'll see you around."
"So long."
"So long. Don't take any bad nickles."
 
> I walked on down a back street that led to a crosscut to the hospital. Ettore was twenty-three.
(p.133)
> He had been brought up by an uncle in San Francisco and was visiting his father and mother in Torino when war was declared.
He had a sister, who had been sent to America with him at the same time to live with the uncle, who would graduate from normal school this year.
> He was a legitimate hero who bored every one he met.
Catherine could not stand him.
 
> "We have heroes too," she said. "But usually, darling, they're much quieter."
"I don't mind him."
"I wouldn't mind him if he wasn't so conceited and didn't bore me, and bore me, and bore me."
"He bores me."
> "You're sweet to say so, darling. But you don't need to. You can picture him at the front and you know he's useful but he's so much the type of boy I don't care for."
"I know."
"You're awfully sweet to know, and I try and like him but he's a dreadful, dreadful boy really."
> "He said this afternoon he was going to be a captain."
"I'm glad," said Catherine. "That should please him."
"Wouldn't you like me to have some more exalted rank?"
"No, darling. I only want you to have enough rank so that we're admitted to the better restaurants."
"That's just the rank I have."
> "You have a splendid rank. I don't want you to have any more rank. It might go to your head. Oh, darling, I'm awfully glad you're not conceited. I'd have married you even if you were conceited but it's very restful to have a husband who's not conceited."
(p.134)
> We were talking softly out on the balcony. The moon was supposed to rise but there was a mist over the town and it did not come up and in a little while it started to drizzle and we came in. Outside the mist turned to rain and in a little while it was raining hard and we heard it drumming on the roof. I got up and stood at the door to see if it was raining in but it wasn't, so I left the door open.
 
> "Who else did you see?" Catherine asked.
"Mr. and Mrs. Meyers."
"They're a strange lot."
"He's supposed to have been in the penitentiary at home. They let him out to die."
"And he lived happily in Milan forever after."
> "I don't know how happily."
"Happily enough after jail I should think."
"She's bringing some things here."
"She brings splendid things. Were you her dear boy?"
"One of them."
"You are all her dear boys," Catherine said. "She prefers the dear boys. Listen to it rain."
> "It's raining hard."
"And you'll always love me, won't you?"
"Yes."
"And the rain won't make any difference?"
"No."
> "That's good. Because I'm afraid of the rain."
"Why?" I was sleepy. Outside the rain was falling steadily.
"I don't know, darling. I've always been afraid of the rain."
"I like it."
(p.135)
> "I like to walk in it. But it's very hard on loving."
"I'll love you always."
"I'll love you in the rain and in the snow and in the hail and--what else is there?"
"I don't know. I guess I'm sleepy."
"Go to sleep, darling, and I'll love you no matter how it is."
> "You're not really afraid of the rain are you?"
"Not when I'm with you."
"Why are you afraid of it?"
"I don't know."
"Tell me."
"Don't make me."
> "Tell me."
"No."
"Tell me."
"All right. I'm afraid of the rain because sometimes I see me dead in it."
"No."
"And sometimes I see you dead in it."
"That's more likely."
> "No it's not, darling. Because I can keep you safe. I know I can. But nobody can help themselves."
"Please stop it. I don't want you to get Scotch and crazy to-night. We won't be together much longer."
"No, but I am Scotch and crazy. But I'll stop it. It's all nonsense."
"Yes it's all nonsense."
> "It's all nonsense. It's only nonsense. I'm not afraid of the rain. I'm not afraid of the rain. Oh, oh, God, I wish I wasn't." She was crying. I comforted her and she stopped crying. But outside it kept on raining.
 
(end of chapter 19)
 
 
6 hours later…
6:07 AM
@DamkerngT. Hi
I have a question
:(
 
6:27 AM
@DamkerngT. where are you?
:(
 
@IceGirl What happened?
 
:)
Nothing just I have questions
 
Okay, but keep it very very short.
 
Can I ask?
OK
 
I'll be back in a few minutes.
 
6:34 AM
In Los Angeles in 1950 we found many minority women working in sewing factories making garments of every sort for 50 cents an hour, 8 hours a day.
many minority?
Ok
 
They found "many [minority women]".
Look up the word minority.
 
I don't understand
I know minority
 
What does it mean?
Because it could mean two things.
 
a small group of people or things within a much larger group
 
That's one.
If that's what the author intended, it would mean something related to ethnic or race.
 
6:39 AM
every sort for 50 cents an hour, 8 hours a day. what does it mean?
 
But I'm guess that it might be the other meaning.
Which is about underage workers.
 
a group of people of a different race, religion etc from most other people in that country
 
@IceGirl every sort is not part of this for-clause, it's part of garments of every sort.
"for 50 cents an hour, 8 hours a day" is the rate that these workers got paid.
 
After several years, the wage went up to one dollar an hour.
went up?
 
went up ~ increased
 
6:47 AM
The sewing rooms were dirty and very dusty, with lint and dust filling the air like fog. The rooms had no air conditioning and no windows.The dust settling on the heads of the women made their hair look gray by the end of the day.
settling on?
 
The dust fell down and it rested on their heads.
 
The loud power-driven sewing machines working at full speed all at once made a thundering noise that deafened the ear. It was a frightful thing to listen to for 8 hours every weekday. I tried it once for several months; the experience made me admire all those women who endured it for years in order to send their children to
colleges and universities.
power-driven?
what accounted for the ' thundering noise' that filled the sewing rooms?
deafened?
I didn't find it in dic
I found defend
 
@IceGirl Power-driven implies the sewing machines are electrical ones, so it could be very loud and noisy working there.
@IceGirl Look up the word deaf. deafen means make you deaf. deafened is the past tense form.
@IceGirl Those machines.
 
7:04 AM
deaf=physically unable to hear anything or unable to hear well
right?
 
Yes.
If you're deaf, you can't hear anything.
Compare: If you're blind, you can't see anything.
 
I have seen those children return home as doctors, lawyers, and engineers, thus rewarding their parents for their sacrifices.
How are these women rewarded for their sacrifices?
Finished
 
They worked hard, in a bad place (that noisy place), for their children.
When their children finally became doctors, lawyers, and engineers, that would be their rewards.
 
Do you know what topic sentence of this paragraph is?
 
Usually, the topic sentence is the first sentence.
 
7:13 AM
You mean this one:
In Los Angeles in 1950 we found many minority women working in sewing factories making garments of every sort for 50 cents an hour, 8 hours a day.
Yes?
 
I would say yes.
Yes.
 
What simile does Lee use to describe the lint and dust filling the sewing rooms?
 
> The sewing rooms were dirty and very dusty, with lint and dust filling the air like fog.
 
OK
 
So she(?) used "fog".
 
7:17 AM
I guess right
:)
 
Gotta go.
It's nice to see you again.
See you, and bye!
 
when will you come back?
 
Don't know. In the evening, I think. (It's in the afternoon here now.)
 
See you soon my friend. Bye. I'll have a class at 12 to 2 after it I'll be back
OK
Goodbye
:)
 
 
1 hour later…
Anonymous
8:39 AM
@DamkerngT. Although minority has that meaning, it sounds to me like it's the race meaning in this particular phrase. People below the age of majority are referred to as minors, but they aren't usually described using the attributive noun minority
 
Anonymous
Although non-attributively in the right context it would make sense, I think
 
Anonymous
But usually attributive minority refers to race
 
8:55 AM
@DamkerngT.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nbjxluv7x8c71bp/a%20lot%20of%20heart1.wma
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lh7quv35p5ey66/eveything1.wma
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s5dixn4wn36a8gb/something%20great2.wma

All these are clips from my side. Do check! :-)
 
Anonymous
Hello!
 
Anonymous
Would you like me to listen, too?
 
Anonymous
Ahh, more WMA files. Damkerng must have figured out a way to open them by now :-)
 
Anonymous
9:19 AM
@hellodear2 Your "twenty seconds of insane courage" clip is now easy to understand for a native speaker.
 
Anonymous
You don't sound like an American, though. (Is your goal to reproduce the clips exactly?)
 
Anonymous
You might work a little bit on the rhythm of the syllables.
 
Anonymous
You need to learn to make the <th> sounds properly. You can be understood if you substitute [t] for [θ], but you'll sound like you have an accent.
 
Anonymous
I can't understand the "everything" clip.
 
Anonymous
Your "lot of heart" clip is good, but not as good as the "twenty seconds" clip. It's understandable, which is good.
 
9:49 AM
Hi all .. Just curious to know if the below sentence grammatically correct
"Slap in the face of Indian thinking"
wouldn't it be "Slap on the face of Indian thinking" ?
 
@snailplane Thanks for the review. where should I improve then? and how?
 
10:07 AM
:13832414
 
Anonymous
10:27 AM
@Jeyanthan No, it's slap in the face.
 
Anonymous
@Jeyanthan It's not a sentence. It's an incomplete noun phrase.
 
Anonymous
I think in this case I would prefer "a slap in the face for Indian thinking". Most commonly "a slap in the face" is followed by to, but it's usually followed by a person or a group of people, which "Indian thinking" is not. For an abstract concept, I think I favor for...
 
Anonymous
Of does occur, though.
 
Anonymous
Anyway, if you add the article a it becomes a complete noun phrase. If you want to express something with it, you should probably put it in a complete sentence (Like "It was a slap in the face for Indian thinking.")
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 What are you saying in the "everything" clip?
 
10:38 AM
Hello @snailplane. Thanks for the comments for hellodear2. I didn't listen to them yet--still downloading it.
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 You might need to learn how to physically make the sounds you're missing in order to reproduce them.
 
Hi
 
@snailplane If you stick with me, I will give this everything.
@snailplane We will begin to work on that this week. (I just gave him the link for American phonology in Flash animation last Sunday.) You're invited to comment us any time. :)
@IceGirl Hello.
 
My essay is about Aravaipa Canyon. Can I start it?
 
Anonymous
Ah, now that I know what it says, I can understand most of the "everything" clip.
 
10:43 AM
@IceGirl I'm busy with something else, so I might not promptly reply, but you can ask.
 
OK
 
@snailplane Last week he pronounced "give" clearly, this week it's become more like "good".
I'd better do my garden thingy now. Be back in about 40 minutes.
 
A long tradition in American literature is one of finding solace in nature. Edward Abbey's description of the American West have inspired many travelers to seek out the wilderness.
solace in nature?
Please come back sooner.
This essay fulfills the two purposes common to much of his work: it pictures the beauty of Aravaipa Canyon, and it encourages us to preserve it.
 
11:08 AM
Can you paraphrase from Edward to wilderness?
:(
 
@none The summer has begun here
Hi Dam, Crystal, Skating girl
 
@MaulikV Hi
 
Where are these both?
 
@MaulikV Can you help me?
I don't know
 
I'll try...though not good as them
 
11:14 AM
OK
 
What's that?
 
I have question from the essay is Aravaipa Canyon
 
uhmm
 
A long tradition in American literature is one of finding solace in nature. Edward Abbey's description of the American West have inspired many travelers to seek out the wilderness.This essay fulfills the two purposes common to much of his work: it pictures the beauty of Aravaipa Canyon, and it encourages us to preserve it.
Can you paraphrase from Edward to wilderness?
 
let me study and try
 
11:15 AM
OK
 
I think it's talking about leaving the uninhabited area as it is
 
Please soon
 
Edward's description changed the scene of that uninhabited area
and as a result of that, many travelers started thinking about that place
The trick is seek out
 
inspired?
 
which means to search for or find
Yes, so it's said there....
 
11:22 AM
What does inspired mean?
 
since the place was not habitant
inspired... provoked
see... that place was not so worth-living....and his description changed the view about it
 
sorry I didn't understand
 
there is some place... no one goes there... and you then describe that place in beautiful words.... this inspires others...and they start visiting the place!
 
aha
OK
I got it
 
Phew!
;)
 
11:24 AM
Thanks
 
I tried...huh...just tried.. I'm not pro at English!
 
:)
 
by the way.. I always call people by their name
what's your name?
I don't prefer calling someone with ambiguity!
like snailplane is Crystal
Dam is Damkerng
 
Ice
 
Ice... is it the name?
 
11:25 AM
Yes
 
Wow
 
Why wow?
 
Never heard that
it was always a noun for me...never proper noun lol
 
It's not my real name
:)
 
That's what I asked
Anyway, it's personal choice. I teach and thus prefer calling everyone by name
 
11:27 AM
Do you like it?
OK
 
that gives me the satisfaction of fulfillment!
 
Good
Where are you come from?
 
I really liked it...
India
I belong to....
not come from!
And you?
Iceland?
Ice?
haha
 
No
Come on
Iran
 
Oh.. one of the sensitive areas
Tehran?
 
11:32 AM
No
 
Here in India, Irani Chai (tea) is too famous!
 
Good
:)
 
especially in the city of Hyderabad
I had it in Mumbai when I went last
 
Can I ask my questions from the essay?
 
It tasted more as a decoction of ginger and green tea!
As I said...I'll try...but I'm not as knowledgeable as Crystal and Damkerng
 
11:34 AM
This essay fulfills the two purposes common to much of his work: it pictures the beauty of Aravaipa Canyon, and it encourages us to preserve it.
fulfills?
preserve?
 
nope... meets the expected requirements
 
But I think your knowledgeable is good
Sorry what?
 
so most of his work does these things - his works beautifies things and motivates people
work*
Hi Gourav
 
preserve?
 
preserve the place
take care and make it normal place by visiting there
 
11:37 AM
Jai Mata Di. :-) @MaulikV
 
You should preserve the ancient things - that way
Hiya... Gourav
 
Hoo-ray! We've lots of people today!
 
Yipeeeeeeeeeee
 
yeah but active only two
 
Huraaaaaaa
Buraaaaaaaaaaa
Turaaaaaaaaa
 
11:38 AM
This must be our new record!
 
Luraaaaaaaa
kuraaaaaaaa
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 I don't know these words :-)
 
nods
 
@snailplane same with me :-)
 
Anonymous
Ah! Nonce-words!
 
11:39 AM
@snailplane exactly!
 
@MaulikV me too. but you can understand the words which don't have any meaning but say it when you are damn damn damn happy. @DamkerngT. @snailplane @MaulikV
 
Hello everyone!
 
Hi Hago partner!
 
Hi
 
11:40 AM
:(
 
So, where's your Tom?
 
Like hoo-raay.... buraaaa,,, turaaaaa.
 
Hehe.
 
@hellodear2 Are you ok? I don't think so
 
Anonymous
If I made up nonce-words for being happy, they'd be like "Spifty-doo! Shaloo-palay! Oh, happy day! Blalim-tabay!" But I would probably not make the same choices as other people.
 
11:41 AM
Ice girl. Yup. I am very okay. Thanks for the concern. :-)
 
@MaulikV My cat is enjoying his food.
 
Crystal, Dam, i came across a very very wonderful word
Pareidolia
 
How many words are there in the world?
 
@DamkerngT. Can I ask from you? ARE YOU READY NOW? or you're busy
 
Can any one tell me ?
 
11:42 AM
It has its own Wiki page too!
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 No, no one can.
 
Anonymous
@MaulikV Yes, that is a good word!
 
@maulik can you?
 
Anonymous
@IceGirl What do you need to ask?
 
@IceGirl You can ask, and everyone can try to help you.
 
11:42 AM
@dam Can you?
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 No, no one can.
 
I'll help too.
 
@DamkerngT. I tried and partially succeeded!
@hellodear2 Yes... they are 345497525493587495
 
Southeast of Phoenix and northeast of Tucson in the Pinal Mountains is a short, deep gorge called Aravaipa Canyon. It is among the few places in Arizona with a permanent stream of water and in popular estimation one of the most beautiful.
 
There are only TWO words in the world.
:-)
Hehe.
 
Anonymous
11:43 AM
@hellodear2 So, which are they?
 
gorge?
 
the and world
 
1. the 2. world
 
I got it!
 
:-)
LOL
 
11:44 AM
I'm confused here
ah
 
@IceGirl I think we've found that word once.
 
@snailplane got it?
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 There's a really stupid puzzle along those lines circulating among English speakers.
 
No
 
@snailplane :'( you called it a stupid puzzle? :'(
 
Anonymous
11:44 AM
> Think of words ending in -gry. 'Angry' and 'hungry' are two of them. What is the third word in the English language? You use it every day, and if you were listening carefully, I've just told you what it is.
 
Anonymous
This is the stupid puzzle.
 
@IceGirl Look up gorge.
 
Anonymous
I was introduced to it in the eighth grade.
 
Anonymous
But most people tell it wrong, so it ends up unsolvable:
 
Anonymous
> Apart from 'angry' and 'hungry', what other common English word ends in '-gry'?
 
11:45 AM
@DamkerngT. Is it noun or adjective?
 
Anonymous
@IceGirl Noun.
 
ummm......... > thinking
 
Anonymous
You can tell because it's in the noun phrase "a [short, deep] gorge"
 
Hehe, I can't think of that -gry word.
 
hungary
 
Anonymous
11:46 AM
@DamkerngT. There isn't one! Hence, stupid puzzle. :-)
 
a deep narrow valley with steep sides=gorge
right?
 
Anonymous
The language with the (supposed) original phrasing is "language"--the third word in "the English language"
 
@IceGirl Exactly!
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 But I don't have a plastic brain model.
 
11:47 AM
@hellodear2 Ah, you know House MD.
 
@snailplane that was just funny.
@dam what is that?
@ice girl thanks
 
Anonymous
 
@hellodear2 It's the TV series that your picture was from.
 
@hellodear2 thanks for what?
 
@dam No. I don't know that guy even. :-D
 
11:49 AM
Ah, thank @snailplane for a nice picture.
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 He's Hugh Laurie. He plays a doctor named House.
 
Anonymous
On the teevee.
 
@snailplane thanks
 
@snailplane I've read it rather as a fact and not a puzzle - There are only two words in English that end with -gry. Hungry and Angry.
 
@snailplane I don't give thanks in return. I usually give thanks without any reason because it's the only thing in world which you can give and which is free.
 
Anonymous
11:49 AM
@MaulikV Also not true. But there are only two common ones.
 
Are there then?
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 I give upvotes a lot. They're pretty much free :-)
 
Anonymous
I give some downvotes too, though. They're not free.
 
Anonymous
They cost precious, precious reputations!
 
@snailplane You have similar thinking like me.
 
11:50 AM
@hellodear2 disagree!
 
@snailplane Oh, pre-ci-ous! My Precious!
 
The day when I came to know that -ve votes are costly, I have refrained myself from giving -ve votes.
 
It is among the few places in Arizona with a permanent stream of water and in popular estimation one of the most beautiful.
 
Anonymous
@MaulikV Yep, plenty of rare words. Like puggry.
 
permanent stream of water?
 
Anonymous
11:51 AM
A stream of water that is permanent. It doesn't dry up or go away.
 
@IceGirl The water keeps running there all the time.
 
in popular estimation?
 
Anonymous
According to popular opinion.
 
@MaulikV you didn't add me on facebook. I have sent u request over there. You look smart. :-O
 
Blushhhhh
 
11:52 AM
 
Anonymous
I like that the cat is saying ^_^.
 
Anonymous
Although some might say it's more of a =^..^=
 
However, look smart means hurry up ;)
 
I am giving away no secrets here: Aravaipa Canyon has long been known to hikers, campers, horsemen and hunters from the nearby cities.
 
I abbreviate it to just ^^. :-)
 
11:53 AM
~(>_<)~ angry cat.
 
Anonymous
@MaulikV Chop-chop!
 
I am giving away no secrets here?
 
Anonymous
As they say: time does not grow on trees, and trees wait for no one. So make like a tree, and hurry up!
 
I remember Look Sharp also means the ame
 
@IceGirl What the writer is saying is no secret.
Everyone knows it.
Oh, Hagu is doing that "cat eyes" thing on me. ^^
BRB
 
11:55 AM
The federal Bureau of Land Management, charged with administration of the canyon, recently decreed it an official ''primitive area,'' thus guaranteeing its fame.
 
Just give me 20 seconds and that too of insane courage...... And I can't promise you but may be something great could come of it.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. =^ω^=
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 Was that intended as a quote, or did you change it on purpose?
 
@snailplane Have you heard of somewhat similar line?
 
Anonymous
@hellodear2 Yes, I remember the original line.
 
11:57 AM
My sister is playing with me and she is laughing madly after saying this line. :-p She always laughs when I work. :D
She is little.
 
Anonymous
If I recall correctly: "All you need is twenty seconds of insane courage ... and I promise you something great will come of it."
 
@DamkerngT. The federal Bureau of Land Management, charged with administration of the canyon, recently decreed it an official ''primitive area,'' thus guaranteeing its fame.
I didn't understand it
 
Anonymous
@IceGirl You said that already
 
Anonymous
What don't you understand about it?
 
recently decreed it an official ''primitive area,'' thus guaranteeing its fame?
 
Anonymous
11:59 AM
Break it down into pieces. The FBoLM ([which is] charged with administration of the canyon) recently decreed [that] it [is] an official "primitive area". This guaranteed its fame.
 

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