English Language Learners

Anonymous

12:22 AM

Yikes!

Anonymous

I think I'd prefer not to think about that.

Damkerng T.

It's from the novel, not in real life, though. :)

Anonymous

Ah, I tend to avoid reading anything that violent if I can

Damkerng T.

Have you ever read Anne of Green Gables?

Ah, seems like the term "historical present" is common enough.

Damkerng T.

12:38 AM

A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway. Chapter 20.

(p.136)

> One day in the afternoon we went to the races.
Ferguson went too and Crowell Rodgers, the boy who had been wounded in the eyes by the explosion of the shell nose-cap.

> The girls dressed to go after lunch while Crowell and I sat on the bed in his room and read the past performances of the horses and the predictions in the racing paper.

> Crowell's head was bandaged and he did not care much about these races but read the racing paper constantly and kept track of all the horses for something to do.

> He said the horses were a terrible lot but they were all the horses we had.
Old Meyers liked him and gave him tips.
Meyers won on nearly every race but disliked to give tips because it brought down the prices.

> The racing was very crooked.
Men who had been ruled off the turf everywhere else were racing in Italy.
Meyers' information was good but I hated to ask him because sometimes he did not answer, and always you could see it hurt him to tell you, but he felt obligated to tell us for some reason and he hated less to tell Crowell.

> Crowell's eyes had been hurt, one was hurt badly, and Meyers had trouble with his eyes and so he liked Crowell.
Meyers never told his wife what horses he was playing and she won or lost, mostly lost, and talked all the time.

Damkerng T.

> We four drove out to San Siro in an open carriage.
It was a lovely day and we drove out through the park and out along the tramway and out of town where the road was dusty.

> There were villas with iron fences and big overgrown gardens and ditches with water flowing and green vegetable gardens with dust on the leaves.

Damkerng T.

> We could look across the plain and see farmhouses and the rich green farms with their irrigation ditches and the mountains to the north.

> There were many carriages going into the race track and the men at the gate let us in without cards because we were in uniform.

> We left the carriage, bought programmes, and walked across the infield and then across the smooth thick turf of the course to the paddock.

> The grand stands were old and made of wood and the betting booths were under the stands and in a row out near the stables.

> There was a crowd of soldiers along the fence in the infield.

> The paddock was fairly well filled with people and they were walking the horses around in a ring under the trees behind the grand stand.

> We saw people we knew and got chairs for Ferguson and Catherine and watches the horses.

Damkerng T.

> They went around, one after the other, their heads down, the grooms leading them.
One horse, a purplish black, Crowell swore was dyed that color.
We watched him and it seemed possible.

> He had only come out just before the bell rang to saddle.
We looked him up in the programmed from the number on the groom's arm and it was listed a black gelding name Japalac.
The race was for horses that had never won a race worth one thousand lire or more.

> Catherine was sure his color had been changed.
Ferguson said she could not tell.
I thought he looked suspicious.
We all agreed we ought to back him and pooled one hundred lire.

> The odds sheets showed he would pay thirty-five to one.
Crowell went over and bought the tickets while we watched the jockeys ride around once more and then go out under the trees to the track and gallop slowly up to the turn where the start was to be.

Damkerng T.

> We went up in the grand-stand to watch the race.

(p.138)

> They had no elastic barrier at San Siro then and the starter lined up all the horses, they looked very small way up the track, and then sent them off with a crack of his long whip.

> They came past us with the black horse well in front and on the turn he was running away from the others.

> I watched them on the far side with the glasses and saw the jockey fighting to hold him in but he could not hold him and when they came around the turn and into the stretch the black horse was fifteen lengths ahead of the others.

> He went way on up and around the turn after the finish.

Damkerng T.

12:54 AM

> "Isn't it wonderful," Catherine said. "We'll have over three thousand lire. He must be a splendid horse."
"I hope his color doesn't run," Crowell said, "before they pay off."
"He was really a lovely horse," Catherine said. "I wonder if Mr. Meyers backed him."

> "Did you have the winner?" I called to Meyers. He nodded.
"I didn't," Mrs. Meyers said. "Who did you children bet on?"
"Japalac."
"Really? He's thirty-five to one!"
"We liked his color."

> "I didn't. I thought he looked seedy. They told me not to back him."
"He won't pay much," Meyers said.
"He's marked thirty-five to one in the quotes," I said.
"He won't pay much. At the last minute," Meyers said, "they put a lot of money on him."

(p.139)

> "Who?"
"Kempton and the boys. You'll see. He won't pay two to one."

> "Then we won't get three thousand lire," Catherine said. "I don't like this crooked racing!"
"We'll get two hundred lire."
"That's nothing. That doesn't do us any good. I thought we were going to get three thousand."
"It's crooked and disgusting," Ferguson said.

> "Of course," said Catherine, "if it hadn't been crooked we'd never have backed him at all. But I would have liked the three thousand lire."
"Let's go down and get a drink and see what they pay," Crowell said. We went out to where they posted the numbers and the bell rang to pay off and they put up 18.50 after Japalac to win. That meant he paid less than even money on a ten-lira bet.

> We went to the bar under the grand stand and had a whiskey and soda apiece. We ran into a couple of Italians we knew and McAdams, the vice-consul, and they came up with us when we joined the girls. The Italians were full of manners and McAdams talked to Catherine while we went down to bet again. Mr. Meyers was standing near the pari-mutual.
"Ask him what he played," I said to Crowell.

> "What are you on, Mr. Mayers?" Crowell asked. Meyers took out his programme and pointed to the number five with his pencil.
"Do you mind if we play him too?" Crowell asked.
"Go ahead. Go ahead. But don't tell my wife I gave it to you."
"Will you have a drink?" I asked.
"No thanks. I never drink."

> We put a hundred lire on number five to win and a hundred to place and then had another whiskey and soda apiece. I was feeling very good and we picked up a couple more Italians, who each had a drink with us, and went back to the girls. These Italians were also very mannered and matched manners with the two we had collected before. In a little while no onc could sit down. I gave the tickets to Catherine.

(p.140)

Theta30

Cool fact of the day: an exception to the final schwa for "a": "cinema" sometimes end in -mɑː

Damkerng T.

Many of my schwas sound like /ɑː/.

Anonymous

@Theta30 Oh, it always ends in mə for me

Anonymous

My schwas are not usually long vowels

Damkerng T.

Oh, yes they sound like /ɑː/, but very short. Perhaps /ɑ/ is more like it.

Anonymous

1:04 AM

I'm not sure what the full range of my schwa sound is.

Anonymous

Schwas definitely assimilate to the surrounding (usually following?) vowels, though.

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

@Theta30 Do you have an example recording or anything?

Theta30

oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/cinema?q=cinema

and I heard it on radio

Anonymous

What accent?

Theta30

1:07 AM

on Canadian state radio (CBC)

Anonymous

Interestingly, Wiktionary lists the /ɑː/ pronunciation for UK but not US

Anonymous

I'm a US speaker, so if that's accurate it might explain why I think it ends in a schwa

Damkerng T.

Ah, Canadian accent.

Anonymous

Hey, some of my other dictionaries list the /ɑː/ pronunciation, too

Damkerng T.

Some Canadians sound pretty much like Americans, while some other Canadians sound more like those from the UK.

Theta30

1:10 AM

yes

Anonymous

I've never talked to any Canadians who sound like they're from the UK

Anonymous

My Canadian friends all seem to sound like they're from Canada.

Damkerng T.

Hehe. :)

Theta30

I don't know

Damkerng T.

I might need to check out Canadian accents some other time. But I remember one TV show about interior design.

Theta30

1:12 AM

I think mostly like in US, with few small differences, just like the spelling

Anonymous

Yeah, you notice a few differences in vowels mainly

Anonymous

I'm looking through Wikipedia's article. It's amusing!

Anonymous

> Americans sometimes claim to be able to recognize the Western/Central Canadian dialect instantly by their use of the word eh. However, only a certain usage of eh (detailed in the article) is peculiar to Canada. It is common in Northern/Central Ontario, the Maritimes and the Prairie provinces. eh is used quite frequently in the North Central dialect, so a Canadian accent is often detected in people from North Dakota, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.

Anonymous

It's funny because where I grew up, people said eh.

Theta30

what kind of carriage they speak of in Hemingway?

Damkerng T.

1:15 AM

I imagine it's a horse carriage one, but I'm not very sure.

Anonymous

The stereotype of Canadian speech where I grew up was pretty inaccurate

Theta30

Not sure with "eh", but you hear a lot here where I am in Prairies accent like in Montana

Anonymous

But I ended up close friends with a few Canadians who moved down here, and I've been in various parts of Canada before, and Canadian accents do sound distinct to me

Theta30

because if you saw the movie Fargo, it's like how the people speak there

Anonymous

My favorite rural accent is Wisconsin's.

Anonymous

1:17 AM

I mean--my favorite rural accent is Wisconsin's, donchakno.

Damkerng T.

►

I watched this show a few years ago.

Theta30

►

Damkerng T.

It made me think of Canadian accent as half American half British.

Anonymous

It feels more American to me than British.

Anonymous

But, if you'll forgive the woo and hand-waving, it sounds rounder to me.

Damkerng T.

1:18 AM

When she speaks slow, it's more like American. When she speaks really fast, it will be more like British, to me.

Theta30

I meant you hear "yeah" a lot

Once an American coming here in Canada asked for direction. I said "yeah" and she laughed

Anonymous

There was a question not too long ago about "Hey, you!"

Anonymous

Someone commented that they could only imagine it being used in anger

Anonymous

It made me wonder when the dividing line for "hey" replacing "hi" was

Anonymous

For me, it's really easy to imagine interpreting "hey" as friendly, so friendly "hey you" isn't a big stretch

Damkerng T.

1:30 AM

Ah, yes. I remember that question. I think the meaning would be clear when we can hear the way it is uttered.

Anonymous

Yeah.

Damkerng T.

It can be very friendly, and can also be rude too, depends on the way it was spoken.

Anonymous

Yeah. But it's usually friendly in my experience :-)

Anonymous

I think I mentioned the tone of voice bit.

Damkerng T.

When reading, I think it's better to think of the phrase positively. :)

Anonymous

1:32 AM

"Hey, you! How've you been!? It's great to see you!"

Damkerng T.

One of my colleague usually greeted me with "Hey, still here!"

The first few times I heard it, it sounds like he wished me to get back home. ("Why are you still around in the office!" :)

Theta30

cool

Damkerng T.

Later, it sounds more like "Oh, I'm glad you're still here!" :-)

Anonymous

"Due to" and "because of" seem interchangeable to me.

Anonymous

I think there's a prescriptive rule some people cling to restricting the use of "due to", though.

Anonymous

1:35 AM

Ah, there's a description of that objection here: education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/due%20to

Damkerng T.

Ahh... That's a very fine point.

I should finish this chapter. Only two pages more.

(p.140)

> "What horse is it?"
"I don't know. Mr. Meyers' choice."
"Don't you even know the name?"
"No. You can find it on the programme. Number five I think."
"You have touching faith," she said. The number five won but did not pay anything. Mr. Meyers was angry.

> "You have to put up two hundred lire to make twenty," he said. "Twelve lire for ten. It's not worth it. My wife lost twenty lire."
"I'll go down with you," Catherine said to me. The Italians all stood up. We went down stairs and out to the paddock.
"Do you like this?" Catherine asked.
"Yes. I guess I do."

> "It's all right, I suppose," she said. "But, darling, I can't stand to see so many people."
"We don't see many."
"No. But those Meyers and the man from the bank with his wife and daughters----":
"He cashes my sight drafts," I said.

> "Yes but some one else would if he didn't. Those last four boys were awful."
"We can stay out here and watch the race from the fence."
"That will be lovely. And, darling, let's back a horse we've never heard of and that Mr. Meyers won't be backing."
"All right."

(p.141)

> We backed a horse named Light For Me that finished fourth in a field of five. We leaned on the fence and watched the horses go by, their hoofs thudding as they went past, and saw the mountains off in the distance and Milan beyond the trees and the fields.
"I feel so much cleaner," Catherine said. The horses were coming back, through the gate, wet and sweating, the jockeys quieting them and riding up to dismount under the trees.

> "Wouldn't you like a drink? We could have one out here and see the horses."
"I'll get them," I said.
"The boy will bring them," Catherine said. She put her hand up and the boy came out from the Pagoda bar beside the stables. We sat down at a round iron table.
"Don't you like it better when we're alone?"

> "Yes," I said.
"I felt very lonely when they were all there."
"It's grand here," I said.
"Yes. It's really a pretty course."
"It's nice."
"Don't let me spoil your fun, darling. I'll go back whenever you want."

> "No," I said. "We'll stay here and have our drink. Then we'll go down and stand at the water jump for the steeplechase."
"You're awfully good to me," she said.
After we had been alone awhile we were glad to see the others again. We had a good time.

Damkerng T.

(end of chapter 20)

Anonymous

I wrote an answer.

Damkerng T.

Yay!

Anonymous

Aww, I missed my opportunity to hit 200 reputations.

Theta30

1:47 AM

hmm horse racing is not interesting

Anonymous

It keeps my interest for a short period of time.

Anonymous

My father used to like horse racing.

Theta30

did he like sports?

Anonymous

Yes, you could say that.

Anonymous

I never did. I guess it didn't occur to me until just now to think of horse racing as a sport.

Damkerng T.

1:49 AM

I was confused a little when the mark went down to 18.50, I think it wasn't so bad, compared to 35:1.

Theta30

what mark?

Damkerng T.

52 mins ago, by Damkerng T.

> "Of course," said Catherine, "if it hadn't been crooked we'd never have backed him at all. But I would have liked the three thousand lire."
"Let's go down and get a drink and see what they pay," Crowell said. We went out to where they posted the numbers and the bell rang to pay off and they put up 18.50 after Japalac to win. That meant he paid less than even money on a ten-lira bet.

Earlier Freed said "He's marked thirty-five to one in the quotes."

@snailplane I think it's a rich people's sport. At least we view it that way here.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Oh, does that make my father a rich man?

Damkerng T.

We've only two fields for horse races in Bangkok: The Royal Bangkok Sports Club, and Royal Turf Club of Thailand under the Royal Patronage.

@snailplane Isn't he? :-)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Oh, what would make you think that?

Damkerng T.

1:56 AM

Maybe because of the horse racing. :D

Anonymous

Hah.

Anonymous

Like the horses, we're running in circles.

Theta30

You must have money to take care of a race horse

Damkerng T.

I was called from one of those club once (to give them my consultancy), and they made me feel as if I had to crawl on knees when I was in their place.

Theta30

but to watch them you don't

@DamkerngT. maybe it has to do with Royal Patronage

Long live the King

---- ----

Anonymous

2:05 AM

Aww! I saw three new messages, but when I came back to look at them, they were removed, removed, and hyphens.

Damkerng T.

One of the removed message is nothing but hyphens.

And the other one was nothing but a complaining to myself about my 7th crash of Firefox today. :P

Theta30

well hyphens have meaning too

Anonymous

@Theta30 Translate, would you? I don't speak hyphen.

Theta30

they mean breaks for reflection

or something like that

Damkerng knows

Damkerng T.

I use it to break transcript into sections.

Anonymous

2:08 AM

Oh! I see.

Damkerng T.

And also as a pause for my typing. :)

Damkerng T.

2:18 AM

@hellodear2 I hope that you have studied that Flash American phonology at least some parts of it by now. Today, stop being Matt. We're going to focus on your ears once again. Here are the drills for today.
1. Review all the drills you did up to this point (by review, I mean just listen to them once again, and try to make out the sounds). Go all the way back to *Wynken, Blynken, and Nod* and beyond that.
2. Watch this clip, transcribe [1:15 - 2:44]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAYnTzPDcI
3. Read and record what you've transcribed, upload your recording

Cerberus

3:22 AM

@DamkerngT. Haha, wow, you are a systematic teacher?

Theta30

You noticed that only now

He almost makes me take this exercises

those Sesame st videos seemed funny

Cerberus

Haha.

I did notice it before.

But now it was reconfirmed.

So I commented on it.

hellodear2

5:03 AM

Anuradha Podwal is damn awesome gazal singer.

Can't resist to listen it.

hellodear2

5:21 AM

> back to practice. :-) Matt damon's teachers video.

hellodear2

5:32 AM

@DamkerngT.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. By the way, "I like this StoneyB's answer" isn't grammatical with the intended meaning. (This appears to modify StoneyB, which is technically possible but probably not intended)

Anonymous

"I like this answer of StoneyB's" would work

Anonymous

Or "I like this answer by StoneyB"

hellodear2

hello snailplane

Here is my clip for the matt damon teachers video: Have a look at it.

dropbox.com/s/ppgj2kbo8un3rij/matt%20damon%20teachers.wma

@DamkerngT. @snailplane

Anonymous

6:05 AM

@hellodear2 Oh, that's a long clip.

Anonymous

You sound very tense. You need to relax when practicing physical skills.

hellodear2

Ca u listen to it plz?

No.

Not at all.

I was not tense.

Anonymous

You're not tense?

hellodear2

No.

Anonymous

Oh, interesting.

Anonymous

6:05 AM

Well, that's good, then.

hellodear2

That guy whom I imitating was speaking in that tone only.

Anonymous

It was mostly pretty understandable, which is good.

hellodear2

thanks.

You can understand everything though. :D

Anonymous

You need to work on getting certain sounds and combinations of sounds produced more consistently. For example, when you said complex, complex, the first <x> /ks/ was fine, but the second <x> you pronounced without the /k/, so it sounded like "complex, comples"

hellodear2

oh.

Really?

@snailplane

Anonymous

6:12 AM

Occasionally your <th> sounds (meaning [θ] and [ð]) sound more like [t] and [d], like at 0:58.70. It sounds more like "dey tink" than "they think"

hellodear2

Hmm....

I noticed it now.

That's cool.

Anonymous

You did a pretty good job on the clip. Aside from attention to individual sounds (which just takes consistent practice each day, not a ton of practice at once), I would try to emphasize the stressed syllables more than you do now.

Anonymous

Your syllables come out a little too evenly spaced, a little too evenly stressed.

Anonymous

You can exaggerate the stressed syllables a little.

hellodear2

Is it a good thing you said or what?

:-o

:D

Anonymous

6:19 AM

And maybe try to follow the pitch contours of the original a bit more. Again, like with the rhythm, you can try to exaggerate them.

hellodear2

I don't get you.

You speak in complex way.

Anonymous

Hmm. I apologize!

hellodear2

I don't get what you trying to say. :'( Sorry.

Anonymous

I do tend to be a bit overelaborate. It's a failing of mine.

hellodear2

No. I am weak to understand you.

@snailplane

are you here?

@DamkerngT. This is half verse of the English song you have given me:
> she may be the face I can't forget.....
> The trace of pleasure or regret......
> may be my treasure or the price.....
> I have to pay......
> She may be the songs some sings.....
> May be the children all them ring.....(doubt about this line)
> may be hundred different things....
> within them measure of the day.....
> She may be the beauty or the breeze...
> may be the femin of the feast....
> but an each day into a heaven or a hell.......

Then music for a half minute. :-)

@DamkerngT. Do check and find errors. :-)

hellodear2

6:49 AM

@DamkerngT. This is just for fun but please listen to it. :-) and give me feedback.

dropbox.com/s/y3546akiry618hq/song3.wma

There is a correction in the last line.... Here it is: she one be what she will seem inside her shel

hellodear2

7:17 AM

This is next verse of the song.......
> she why she seems so happy and brave......
> used as in deed so brave and brave....
> once I let you see them when they cry.............
> She may be the love that can her hope to last.....
> there I remember till the day and I......
> she may be the reason I survive....
> the what I wait for and alive.....
> the what I came through the rough and ready hills......

I am writing it again:

@DamkerngT.

> she why she seems so happy and brave......
> used as in deed so brave and brave....
> once I let you see them when they cry.............
> She may be the love that can her hope to last.....
> may comes from shadows of the vasht.....
> there I remember till the day and I......
> she may be the reason I survive....
> the what I wait for and alive.....
> the what I came through the rough and ready hills......

hellodear2

7:41 AM

I will take her laughter and tears.......

> and make them my souverigeneee

> for where she goes she got to be....

> the meaning of my life is she..........

she

(again) she.....

@DamkerngT. This is for today. Rest I will take afterwards. thanks . Do check them all and give feedback. thanks. :-) :D

Anonymous

@hellodear2 Time for a well-deserved break? :-)

hellodear2

8:33 AM

Yup.

I have taken bath and some food after that.

Pheew!! Relaxed now. It's 2:00 pm sharp in my clock.

@snailplane

Damkerng T.

9:35 AM

@Cerberus Hehe. I take it as a compliment. I'm not sure I can call myself that. I made him promise, and I intend to keep mine. :)

Ah, @hellodear2 is still here!

I just downloaded your first clip. I forgot to mention that you should post your transcription here too. Can you post it here (the one that you read from)?

hellodear2

1:27 PM

@DamkerngT.

They are too much. My hands will kill me if I type that much :D Haha.

Does it matter? I am reading it and you can hear each and every word very clearly.

@DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

@hellodear2 It might. :)

hellodear2

I was just thinking to go to park.

:D

It is 7:10 in my clock.

Damkerng T.

Okay, then tell me. How did you read it? From your handwriting? :)

When will you come back?

hellodear2

I it good time to go to park for reducing your weight?

Damkerng T.

I think we should have about 30-45 minutes chat today.

hellodear2

1:42 PM

Why don't you join me and go for a walk with me?

@DamkerngT. we will chat today only. :-)

Damkerng T.

Nice. I can take a walk here too. :)

hellodear2

come out of my PC right now.

Damkerng T.

You go out to the park first, then come back later.

@hellodear2 Transmitting myself ...

hellodear2

I will throw a weird sound to you, and will notify you. (I hope you know what is that weird sound)

:D LOL

Damkerng T.

(Beep! Operation failed!)

hellodear2

1:43 PM

LOL Hahahaaa....

I hate that bhoop! sound on ELL. It is too irritating.

Damkerng T.

Me too!

I usually turn the sound off.

hellodear2

There should be sweet and nice sound. Calm and relaxed.

Damkerng T.

Hehe.

hellodear2

Like this:

Damkerng T.

Isn't it a bit late to go to the park now?

I think it should be getting dark there.

hellodear2

1:46 PM

That's what I was asking you. It's too dark now.

:-) but here, park is almost full at this time. :D

Damkerng T.

So do you still want to go out first?

(It's up to you.)

hellodear2

I will take 6-7 laps there just for refreshing myself.

:D

Damkerng T.

Running is good for health.

hellodear2

I will be back in 1/2 hour or so. Till then, do check my everything.

Damkerng T.

Okay, then go! before it's getting too dark.

nods

hellodear2

1:47 PM

So that we can talk about it. Okay? Cya Boss!!

hellodear2

2:37 PM

@DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

Would you like want to take a shower first?

hellodear2

No.

Not at all.

Damkerng T.

Okay, then. :)

hellodear2

Americans are habitual of this thing. Indians are not.

Damkerng T.

I've listened to your clips. I think you did good.

Obviously, you can sing. :)

hellodear2

2:40 PM

How about when I sing? :D I loved the song very very much.

Damkerng T.

You sound great. That song was very popular, and I think many people still like this song.

hellodear2

It's still playing behind the screens. :D

Damkerng T.

Nice!

hellodear2

Speakers are still singing them. :D

Damkerng T.

Did you review all the previous drills?

hellodear2

2:43 PM

Yup.

We should start it right now.

Damkerng T.

Nope. Previous drills are for you to review in your own time.

You can do it once every a few days.

hellodear2

Oh. Okay I will review them.

1. Matt damon trailer 2. That french song.. 3. that poems.

Damkerng T.

Also, speak those Matt's lines every day, at least once, a few times is better.

hellodear2

I love that line. All you need ... When I say "I promise you",.... I love it when I say it. It gives me a current. :D

Damkerng T.

Good!

Now let's discuss today's drills you did.

hellodear2

2:46 PM

Okay.

Damkerng T.

How did you read that news? From your handwriting?

hellodear2

Yup.

Damkerng T.

Okay, that's fine too.

Did you try memorizing it?

hellodear2

No.

Why?

Damkerng T.

No is a good answer.

hellodear2

2:48 PM

LOL

Haha

Damkerng T.

Your next drill is to transcribe your own clip. :)

hellodear2

I wrote it on a notebook and then I record it as you said.

LOL

Damkerng T.

This is serious. I mean you must be able to transcribe what you said.

If you didn't speak it clearly enough, you will have a hard time transcribing your own speech. :)

hellodear2

I can understand everything what I said.

Damkerng T.

Just try it anyway.

And don't guess the word, use your ears.

You might be surprised that you can find your own mistakes too.

hellodear2

2:51 PM

Hmmm......

Damkerng T.

Just treat it as someone else's clip.

You can do that tomorrow, or maybe tonight after our chat.

hellodear2

Okay

Damkerng T.

In general, you did good.

hellodear2

Thanks. B-)

Damkerng T.

There are some mistakes, a bit here and a bit there, I will give you the transcript tomorrow.

hellodear2

2:52 PM

Credit goes to you. :-) Who else? :D

Damkerng T.

Hehe.

hellodear2

hmm.

:p

Damkerng T.

After you finished transcribing your own clip, compare it against your first transcription.

Then there is another drill based on this clip for tomorrow, but I will tell you later.

What's more important is that American phonology website.

How much did you try it?

hellodear2

um... for half an hour or so.

Damkerng T.

So you've seen some of the diagrams and video clips there already?

hellodear2

2:56 PM

Yup.

I have.

Damkerng T.

Good.

hellodear2

:D

I have transcribed the whole song.

English one.

Damkerng T.

One of the goals for this week is you must be able to understand those phonetic letters (the letters that they use to represent sounds).

@hellodear2 Yes, I've seen it. I think you've become to be a little better than last week.

hellodear2

I come to know how to say "that". Do you take out your tongue outside to say "that"?

Damkerng T.

Yes. :)

hellodear2

2:58 PM

Awwwww....

Outside means out of mouth. Person in front of you would see it. Right?

Damkerng T.

In our drills, you need to stick your tongue out at least one inch before your teeth.

@hellodear2 Yes. Exactly. :)

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