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@ManishEarth Congrats.
 
@ManishEarth Congrats!!! Looks like there are a lot of IITB-ians :D
 
 
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user54412
3:19 AM
@BrandonEnright They keep speculative physicists employed ;)
 
3:43 AM
@ManishEarth Congrat
 
 
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Thanks :)
 
 
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@ManishEarth Congrats!
 
 
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Q: What is the URL of an individual answer?

garypIn a comment, someone posted a URL that went directly to a particular answer to a certain question. How does one find the URL of a particular answer?

 
1:46 PM
I've missed all the chat sessions last month...
Ain't gonna happen today!!! :D
 
2:27 PM
same here
 
 
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3:36 PM
Been a while since I've last seen this many people in chat
 
3:58 PM
this is good I suppose
 
@KyleKanos Yeah... But, the session will flee without a topic :P
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut There's a topic to be discussed
So hopefully it won't drive anyone away
 
@KyleKanos what's that?
 
And I'll be taking a leave at about 12:25, as I have the last lab of the semester to teach today
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Should pure mathematics questions (ones with no physics concepts or applications) be allowed on Physics.SE
 
Oh, that...
 
4:01 PM
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Q: Should pure math questions be on topic?

David ZWe've previously had some discussion about the suitability of pure math questions for this site. Currently, pure math questions - by which I mean those that have no physics content, even if they arise in a physical context - are off topic. We migrate those to Mathematics. Here are some recent exa...

So yes, we need to discuss that, or at least see if there is anything to be discussed.
It seems to me the community is clearly in favor of the top answer... any thoughts on that note?
 
@DavidZ The top answer gives conflicting answers
 
I see it more as an intermediate position
 
I see the way things are dealt with now to be ok
 
The opening says, "No pure math questions should be allowed" while the end says "yes, if they want a physicists opinion/interpretation"
 
@KyleKanos yes, but that's a secondary consideration
 
4:05 PM
I concur that the latter part is wrong. I can ask chemistry about biology all I want, it does not mean it's an on-topic discussion with them
 
Yeah, I agree that the fact that someone wants a physicists' perspective doesn't make the question on topic.
 
^agree
 
We have a precedent for that in many other areas, e.g. subjective questions, like "what kind of coffee do physicists like?" (that's an extreme example but you see my point?)
 
It seems to me that of the 7 answers to your Meta post, 6 of them say that mathematical questions devoid of physics ought to remain off-topic
 
4:10 PM
So shall we go ahead with the position described in the first two paragraphs of the top answer?
 
I thought that was how we operated already?
 
No, that represents a bit of a change. Right now questions about a mathematical method are considered off topic even if the question arose in the context of applying that mathematical method to a physical problem.
with some selected exceptions for things like renormalization, which could arguably be considered physics anyway
 
Hmm. I've been under the impression that math questions arising from physics problems were on topic.
Oh well, I suppose you learn something new every day
 
So for example, a question like "How do I solve the Schroedinger equation for the potential V(x) = ...?" would currently be off topic, but the proposed answer would put it on topic.
 
I'm okay with that change
 
4:18 PM
I'm okay, though the hw policy still applies
 
yeah, of course, the HW policy is a separate issue
 
Does anything need to be discussed about this one:
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Q: Is Phys.SE mainly for expert-level questions?

AnupamI have noticed that some stack exchanges sites have different policies as compared to the stackoverflow.com. e.g. Math.SE has completely different policies for comments and home-work questions. What is the policy of Phys.SE for asking beginner level questions, that is can unintelligent pe...

 
quickly before we move on: am I right to conclude that our newest question is off topic under either version of the math policy?
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Q: How does the chain rule work for more than one variable?

user50224I know that that $$\dfrac{d\sqrt{x}}{dt} = \dfrac{d\sqrt{x}}{dx} \dfrac{dx}{dt}$$ In this equation there you only have 1 variable, namely $x$. But why is the following correct?: $$T = \frac{1}{2} m \left(v_{x}^2 + v_{y}^2 + v_{z}^2 \right)$$ $$\dfrac{dT}{dt} = m \left( v_{x} \dfrac{dv_{x}}...

@KyleKanos I don't know... personally I don't have anything to discuss about that
 
@DavidZ Yes, that appears off-topic under both policies. I've already voted to migrate it
@DavidZ I just wanted to make sure
 
yeah, it's reasonable to ask. Someone could have something to say about it.
 
4:24 PM
His experiment this morning was interesting
 
well for some definition of "interesting" I guess
 
Interesting in the sense that it was weird
 
;-)
ironically, it would actually be a decent question if he hadn't tried so hard to justify it being on topic here and hadn't put arbitrary restrictions on it (the note in the last paragraph).
 
On an actually interesting note, I may have made some new collaborators this past weekend due to a local conference
 
cool!
lol, funny that the math questions keep pouring in while we're talking about math questions in chat:
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Q: How to solve the Laplace equation in ellipsoidal coordinates?

renphysicsIt seems that popular textbooks on electrodynamics do not discuss how to solve the Laplace equation in ellipsoidal coordinates. I could not find any reference, but there must be references about this. Could anyone give a reference? As an example, the question can be how to calculate the charge d...

 
4:30 PM
Hopefully it'll pan out, as it's about relativistic jets and I don't know JS about it
 
@KyleKanos you can always learn, I'm sure
 
Crud, gotta go teach lab now
 
ok, see you later
 
@DavidZ This one is on-topic I suppose.
 
The Laplace equation question?
I guess. It seems very borderline to me.
 
user54412
4:40 PM
I don't really know what that question is asking.
 
user54412
Like, if someone said "How do I solve the Laplace equation in Cartesian coordinates?" I wouldn't know either.
 
user54412
Entire books have been written on solving Laplace/Poisson
 
Seems to be a reference request question.
 
@Mostafa well not in the sense of our tag. Sure, it's asking for references, but it would be a better question if it didn't.
 
How about book-recommendation?
 
4:44 PM
Definitely not that either. Those are for general questions that are only meant to collect lists of resources.
It's always better to just ask the thing you want to know and then answerers will provide references as needed.
Back to the math policy: we need new wording for the help center. Any suggestions?
I'll come up with something if nobody else has any input
...guess not. So unless anyone else has anything to bring up, we can probably close out this chat session.
See you back here in two weeks! We may address the homework policy (again)
 
5:00 PM
(sigh) I come to listen for one hour... And, nature doesn't want me to! (Internet blew up) -_-
 
well, there's always the transcript
 
Yeah, I'm reading through that...
 
user54412
@Waffle so what have you been up to these last few months?
 
And what about you, @ChrisWhite? :)
 
user54412
@ManishEarth Coding. Trying to satisfy referees. Coding. Developing a cool, new, revolutionary approach to things :P Did I mention coding?
 
5:08 PM
heh
Thesis?
 
user54412
yep
 
Good luck with that, then :)
 
Hello everyone
 
user54412
hi
 
@ChrisWhite Instead of chaotically looking into stuff, I'm now following an orderly procedure... (yeah, I'm speaking about learning Physics) :D
Then, I lost internet for about a month (by which, productivity was also lost)... (now, I have an USB modem, still a lot of connectivity problems since relocation)
Two weeks back, I moved into a new home... (which further reduced my productivity)
@ChrisWhite What would that be? ... would that be useful for me? :P
 
5:23 PM
I have one question: I know that if you will act $n$ creation operators on state: $n\hat H a^+|\Psi>=Ea^+|\Psi>$ you will get $E_n = (n+\frac{1}{2})h\omega$ and if you will act on state with annihilation operator you will get 0. But i have found in internet that if you will act annihilation/creation operator on state you will get this:
$a^+|n>=\sqrt{n+1}|n+1>$
and
$a^-|n>=\sqrt{n}|n-1>$
but how to derive them?
thanks
 
user54412
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut useful? depends - do you want to simulate radiation-dominated accretion disks around black holes?
 
@ChrisWhite Yeah, I could get interested in watching the simulation run! :P
 
user54412
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut One day maybe I'll have pretty movies. I've actually attended a number of workshops for visualization software.
 
Very well, don't forget to ping me when you make one! :D
 
me too :)
 
5:28 PM
Oh, and btw... I've discovered what I'm gonna do after completing my undergrad aero course... (which @Manish already knows!)
 
heh, yeah :)
Better get started on that one :)
 
I got a way to get into Physics...
@ManishEarth Now, I've got problems. You know, we have an election in 2 days -- That really affected my academics!
 
meh, I can't vote, and Indian politics is too dirty for my liking anyway :p
I've just been watching from afar, amused
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut How?( getting into physics)
 
@ManishEarth Me either... But, a few googling (and of course, my dad's lecture) has given me an idea :P
Usually, our prof. do this abstract inconceivable way-of-teaching (at least, most of them), which happens all the sems.
This sem, they've been ordered to finish off the portions before the election (very soon! -- whole sem within 2 and a half months)
So, they started skipping topics, and at the end, most of them skipped a whole lesson! (sigh)
@Mostafa I'm planning to get into @ManishEarth's institute (which is AFAIK, a great environment for learning)
 
5:34 PM
Not too sure how great the MSc program is here, but there are quite a few awesome MScs here. And good profs
 
As soon as this semester ends, I've got 2-months of vacation (longest-ever vacation I've possibly had, since fifth grade)
 
user54412
@Gigi10012 That could go on the main site. You can work things out explicitly, using Hermite polynomials. Or there are more clever ways just using the expression of H in terms of a and a^\dagger. Or you can postulate those relations for a|n> and a^\dagger|n>, and derive what a and a^\dagger must be in terms of x and p.
 
So, I'll be at my atmost level of productivity...
@ManishEarth What are you gonna do after your BE? Ph.D?
 
apply for grad school....somewhere
 
user54412
@ManishEarth grad school in what exactly? :P
 
5:39 PM
@ChrisWhite: I always wanted to get into Astrophysics (since I was born in SE)! :D
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Why don't get into, say @ChrisWhites Institute? (abroad) :))))
 
@Mostafa You seem to speak like that's very easy! (???) o_O
 
which time id displayed on bounty ending time..Means which location?
id=id
id=is
 
the bounty ending time follows which location?
 
5:45 PM
UTC (I guess)
 
I can't understand why my question is downvoted?
It is like this...
I will split it up so I can post it..
Title:Arrow of time and virtual reality
Here we are taking environment like movie 'the Matrix'. Now in that movie people live in Simulated reality.Now according to Wikipedia definition for simulated reality is "the hypothesis that reality could be simulated—for example by computer simulation—to a degree indistinguishable from "true" reality, and may in fact be such a simulation. It could contain conscious minds which may or may not be fully aware that they are living inside a simulation."
Now suppose a computer simulation programmer develop a mechanism in which arrow of time is vague. Means glass falling from table and its reverse is both valid..(which is prohibited from our real world by second law of thermodynamics). Now a child is born in that simulated reality world and does not come direct touch with real world which is human used to live before that matrix like scenario.
So for that child is it possible that he can not differentiate arrow of time(difference between future and past) when bring back to real world but his parents can because they were born in the real world and then has been exported into matrix?
 
@user43004 The notice attached to the on-hold reason says it...
 
@user43004 It was downvoted because it's not a question about physics but perception of reality
 
> Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question.
 
@ChrisWhite Heh, not yet sure. Got interests in nlin, astro-ph (/cosmology), and a bit in hep-ph and cond-mat
 
5:58 PM
@ManishEarth nlin?
 
nonlinear dynamics
 
ah...
2 hours ago, by David Z
well for some definition of "interesting" I guess
^^^ I'm getting a feeling that @DavidZ's phrases are much like tpg's...
My mind grasps both of their phrases to be similar! I always find it interesting :D
Well, I should also add that @dmckee & twistor are a completely different class of people who always make me laugh! :P
 
@ManishEarth nonlinear dynamics? I think it falls under math rather than physics(?) (as a research subject).
 
Depends
 
@ManishEarth Those are rather different subject areas, just to let you know
 
6:09 PM
@KyleKanos which?
astro-ph and cosmology? I know
(though iirc arxiv puts them under each other or something)
 
All of them together
 
Ah
I know
I'm a sophomore, still exploring.
 
I mean, I could understand combining astro & cosmology & hep (to some degree), but throwing in condensed matter & non-linear dynamics..
 
@KyleKanos: Welcome! You disappeared when I reappeared :P
 
I did, I ran upstairs to run a lab
Now I'm back for a few minutes whilst grading
Then its back to run another lab
 
6:11 PM
hehe :D
 
@KyleKanos no, I'm not combining them. These are my interests :)
 
Assuming I don't get a phone call in between too
 
One day I shall choose :)
 
@ManishEarth Oh I know. I meant that those interests are just so very different
 
yep
 
6:12 PM
One can't really be a renaissance man anymore
 
Of course. I don't intend to do all of these once I pass out from here
But I'm trying to see which one I like the most. nlin and more recently cosmology are competing for the top :p
 
@ManishEarth Join the Dark Side!
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Astronomy is awesomely Dark
 
heh lol
 
What aspect about Cosmology interests you?
 
Uh, I recently got in a discussion with my GR prof about the staticness of the "k" constant in flrw (the one which can be 1,-1, or 0), and we had a rather interesting discussion.
I don't know enough to know which aspect this is. Might be mutiple
 
6:18 PM
Okay... I should be going now. C'yall later :)
 
@ManishEarth Hmm, so more theoretical work.
 
@KyleKanos The prof mentioned that the idea was interesting and would make a good project for my fourth year, in the meantime I plan to try to learn enough and read some papers
 
The time-dependent k was done a long time ago: adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1988ApJ...325L..17P
 
@KyleKanos not the way I'm thinking. That's global, right?
 
It does seem that way. You mean a locally time-dependent value?
 
6:28 PM
@KyleKanos sort of, yeah. Basically, if we tweak the definition of "homogeneity" to allow for it to be inhomogenous at a snapshot but homogenous as a time average, I wanted to see what we can do.
 
 
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e__
8:19 PM
probably a very easy question for someone but for the last question on the page, why is it 'cannot be true' rather than 'could be true', when surely the summation of no forces could be 0 too?
 
8:40 PM
@e__ you're right, there could be no forces at all
 
e__
it doesn't really make sense to me but this is off a WJEC Mark Scheme
 
8:55 PM
@e__ doesn't mean it's right
 
e__
haha ok - that's sort of worrying but logically to me if you're not touching it, there's no resultant force, just like if you had two opposing forces meaning there's no resultant force, so I guess the Mark Scheme is just wrong here
 

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