@ChrisWhite we can, but it's reserved for extreme circumstances. That goes for both mod messaging and "superpinging".
For something like this, where a relatively new user is doing something that's not quite within the norms of the site, we'll just leave a comment - so it doesn't have to be a moderator who does it. Anyone who is familiar with how the site works can do so.
Sadly most likely need to run before the scheduled chat, but hopefully it's productive. I think the results (so far) from meta.physics.stackexchange.com/questions/5958/… are interesting... definitely seem to be some cases where the community is unanimous and others where it is... not.
Well, meta posts about "homework" keep on coming, but we still don't seem to have a solution that sticks, so I'll give it another shot. For what it's worth I think the current system isn't so bad that we need to go back to the drawing board, but that there's also room for improvement.
In many cases I agree with you @KyleKanos, but I can also see the value in allowing people to ask higher-level check-my-work questions. Like, there are many times in my research where I do some derivation and get it wrong, and it would be useful to have someone else review it and find my mistake
So, I was solving this problem1 and I realized that the system given seems to be non-deterministic when analysed with classical laws.
The situation is thus: A rope is wrapped for an angle of $\theta_0$ (symmetrically) around a fixed pole (the circle in the diagram). One end is fixed to a wall,...
@DavidZ I definitely agree with the value of being able ask a question here to see where a mistake is if your co-workers can't help. But in the event that co-workers can't help, I would wager that the question is probably far too specific to be useful to anyone else. And, thus, would probably still be off topic
@Jim I see your point, but I think we should be careful with that specificity criterion. Physics research by its nature is very specific, so I'm personally in favor of being more lenient when it comes to research-level questions being overly specific.
@Jim sure, that makes sense. But I think it would be useful to have some guidance enshrined in the policy on how we evaluate individual cases - or at least to craft a HW policy that doesn't also restrict the kinds of research-level questions we want.
@DavidZ as for the example, that is just as true for high school-level questions as it is for research-level. The difference is I would expect the research-level asker to be able to recognize that this is the case and tailor a question to better fit our homework policy
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Perks of being a mod, nobody slaps HW on your question. Feel free to add it if it applies. I stopped caring about the meaning of the tag quite a while ago, as long as people apply it consistently. So I've sort of forgotten the current meaning of the tag.
@DavidZ Yeah, I was proposing it as one litmus test for the bite sized policies. It's still HW, even if not off topic.
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut The HW tag-wiki says A "homework question" is any question whose value lies in helping you understand the method by which the question can be solved Asking why Y when expecting X is not understanding the method but the underlying physics
@ManishEarth: On the sidenote, (when I meant that my internet is "fixed", I meant "it's better than what it had been in the past) - For example, I can't edit posts, I can't view Q&A whenever I want! (I need to wait for a while) - SE CSS takes lots of time... I don't have that much patience often, so I see "naked" SE...
@KyleKanos The homework tag has always been a "paradox" for me... >_<
@KyleKanos oh, I think I see a confusion here: the intent of that quote was that it applies to the problem being asked about, not to the question posted on the site. So in the case of Manishearth's question, he was doing that problem in order to learn about classical mechanics, not because he literally had a cylinder on a string and needed to figure out whether the string would hold. That makes it a homework problem.
Anyway, lots of discussion so far but I'm not sure what to make of it all. Where are we coming down on check-my-work questions, and in particular a good way to distinguish which ones should be on or off topic?
Your reputation mark is not the criteria for defining who is better at physics and who is not..
Even people with less reputation than 20 can have much interest in Physics and may have questions that might interest you. So, kindly change the rules regarding who might or might not be able to post i...
Some time ago, John Rennie asked,
...in many cases it looks as if the OP simply can't be bothered to put any effort in. Do we have a policy for closing (or not closing) such questions?
The Meta question has received not a downvote (12/0 at time of writing). The answer by Ben Crowell says (e...
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Even if the OP does not use "homework" tag, the users ("community police") can still attach this if they're reasonably sure that this is homework. On one recent post, though, the OP specifically said "this is not homework" because most questions are! So, maybe we should have a "not a homework" ta...
Math.SE has not been able to curb the flood of homework-like questions. Now that their homework tag is gone, the battle seems lost forever. Interestingly, Math.SE has roughly twice the number of visits per day, four times the number of users, and 7 times the number of questions per day, as compared to Phys.SE.
but I think what Qmechanic might be saying is that the support for abandoning the homework tag could be interpreted as a sign that the community there no longer cares about discouraging homework questions
well either way, I might be for removing the tag. But I'm not for it strongly enough to argue with anyone about it
@Qmechanic ah, I see what your saying. Let me be clear, I'm not for removal of the tag because I think it will somehow stem the tide of HWL questions. I'm for it's removal because I think it's ugly, meta, and just one more mostly useless tag that's cluttering our already over-bloated list of tags. Plus it would keep people from using it as the only tag.
Yeah, Math.SE wants to get rid of the homework tag because they welcome homework, and don't want it stigmatized. They already have policies where any question is fair game, you straight up give anyone the answers to their problem sets, and the community is forbidden from tagging a question as homework unless the OP requests it.