Japanese Language

3:24 AM

今日、Tシャツとステッカー届きました！

4:20 AM

on lang-8, can i write my entries in informal japanese?

without desu/masu?

@Schokolade !!

I think you can use plain form

do you use lang-8?

/if so what do you use?

4:37 AM

I use lang-8 from time to time, haven't been active for the past couple of months though

do you use plain form?

just curious

I don't think I have

Most of my sentences are polite form except for the occasional inconsistency

I haven't written an entry entirely in plain form

but that's probably an artefact of my Japanese lessons at that time using only polite form

i want to write about the truman show

4:50 AM

oh that movie was awesome

トゥルーマンショーは好きな映画だ sounds really blunt

it has many thought provoking moments

but at the same time i know i will get tired of using polite if i keep using it throughout

oh yeah, i have a whole theory about that movie haha

it's on imdb's top 250 so i'm not the only one who thinks it's great

Anonymous

5:18 AM

@BouzuHarinezumi There's no reason to do that unless you're using a kana-bound analysis.

Anonymous

The consonant isn't part of the inflectional ending.

Anonymous

@BouzuHarinezumi There is a term in linguistics, zero derivation, for deriving a word without a change in form, for example deriving the noun killing from the the gerund killing.

Anonymous

I explained the idea that gerunds are verb forms, not noun forms, and that you can derive nouns from them here: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/105696/…

Anonymous

@ogicu8abruok You can do what you would like :-)

Anonymous

Write whatever you want to practice writing.

Anonymous

5:22 AM

@Schokolade Woo hoo! Mine got here a couple days ago :-)

Anonymous

The shirt is okay, but I love stickers.

Anonymous

@BouzuHarinezumi By the way, some linguists prefer the term conversion for a change from one lexical class to another without a change in form, rather than zero derivation.

Anonymous

So if you fall into that camp, I can understand why you wouldn't use the term derive.

Anonymous

There's a justification for conversion rather than zero derivation in The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language, p.1641, and you can apply the same concept to any language if you find their argument convincing.

5:50 AM

@snailplane I guess it all comes down to the same old argument of the dominance of pictographic or phonographic inclinations in different individuals.

@snailplane For example my brain forms concepts mostly pictographically from the feedback I get from the outside world. The concept of being blind to me is frightening.

@snailplane Sometimes I entertain the idea of loosing my vision and how my life would change after that. Most likely I will rely a lot on my hearing but still will have visual concepts associated with the mental processing. The visual cortex is one of the largest in the human brain. I guess this is my argument for orthographic vs. phonetic grammatical analysis.

Hop on a plane, snailplane! Snow will start melting here only on the 22 of March.

Two full months of snow ahead

@CowperKettle Where is it? Usually there is temperature hysteresis after equinox.

I don't know what 'temperature hysteresis' is, but I live in Yekaterinburg

6:07 AM

The snow will start melting there much later :)

@CowperKettle Держись, друг, держись!

@BouzuHarinezumi Thank you!

Anonymous

@CowperKettle I miss snow, but I don't miss being really, really cold! ;-)

@snailplane Ah, it's warm here. Minus 8°C today

I know the ALT-0176 combination by heart

O_O

My water radiator is turned off 80% of the time

Because it gets too hot

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Brr!

Anonymous

I type do into Japanese input and convert it to ° or ℃ :-)

Anonymous

6:14 AM

I like the way °C looks better but ℃ comes up first.

@snailplane How do you even get °C? I only see ℃. What OS and IME are you using?

@CowperKettle How did you measure that? Was it off 8 hours out of 10, or 8 days out of 10?

@BouzuHarinezumi 「ど」を「°」にして、

「C」って打ったら

°C

すごい

I learned something new today! Is it acceptable to use in Japanese electronic communications?

6:29 AM

さ～・・・どうだろう、普通は「℃」を使うんじゃないかな・・

@BouzuHarinezumi I just turn it on during my sleep. So it is on 9 hours out of 24.. well, this is closer to 40%

「°」って、温度じゃなくて、角度のときに使うやつと思う

@Schokolade This is what I thought - why would one use two different characters in two encodings instead of one?

°▽°　←　こういうふうに使うやつや～

Anonymous

@Schokolade Ohh, but in English I like °C better than ℃ because the regular C looks better with Latin letters :-)

6:38 AM

@Schokolade 何を参照しているかわかりません

Anonymous

The ℃ character is included in Unicode for East Asian languages, but in Western languages the Unicode standard recommends using ° + C instead.

@snailplane Totally agree!

へえ、そおなんだ～

@CowperKettle I hope you meant you turn it on before you go to bed, otherwise you sound like a sleepwalker :) (лунатик). I am the opposite - I turn heat off before going to bed and turn it on when I wake up.

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1:07 PM

Tシャツの色、思ったよりかわいいです

Sだけどやっぱり私にはデカいかな

コットン50％入っててうれしい

ほお、ホンジュラス製・・

ホンジュラス製の服って、初めて見るかも

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