@DavidCarlisle Oh, now that I look quickly my initial guess was right after all; I got the details muddled in the early morning fog. LuaTeX doesn't kern catcode-letters, so we turn all letters into others. And there's no point having @ specially defined in maths, so I'll just remove it from the table.
@JosephWright I implemented the math-kerning-catcode "fix" on both engines so that people wouldn't be confused that math chars were different catcodes on different engines.
@JosephWright Oops, I didn't notice this was lualatex-math, not unicode-math. Might be best for me to leave that to phst.
@ChristianHupfer As I've said to people, my feeling is it could go down a lot, but it's a question of closing questions a bit more aggressively (I'm doubtful many will ever get answers)
@JosephWright Well, I know. It was rather a statement of detecting than being annoyed. And about closing question (a bit more) aggressively -- we've got users who would strongly oppose that.
@JosephWright Yes and no. The 'grace period' is alright if the answer is possible at all, but there are questions which are off-topic or not answerable in the positive sense that it's possible in the current state of TeX (TeX = whole bundle of plain TeX etc.)
@ArthurReutenauer The pdfmapfile is not even related to the font that changes. I have two fonts in the document, one is just a calligraphic font for quotes, one is the main text font. The main text font uses a virtual font together with cmex10. The cmex10 glyphs pixelate if I use the pdfmapfile for the calligraphic font. But sometimes it doesn't. But this time it does.
@1010011010 Imho it is rather pointless to discuss something like this in a chat. Without code and log-file one can only speculate. Better make a real example in a real question.
@UlrikeFischer If I can resolve issues with obvious solutions, circumventing the need to post proprietary/commerial fonts for the public, I will take it.
@cfr Good news: I just found a 3-line fix for a bug at work, that was looking rather intricate, so I can use the afternoon to work on gloss-welsh.ldf. I’ll just pretend it took me that much longer to solve the bug ;-) Hopefully nobody noticed me doing a little victory dance when I saw my fix working.
@PauloCereda The curvature of space time due to Earth's mass isn't enough to bend the (reflected) ray of light from my waving hand into your eyes) :-( We must increase Earth's mass ;-)
I need to convert a Word document to LaTeX. My main concern is to preserve all the equations, which are in the "new" format that Word supports natively. The conversion doesn't have to be perfect, I'll go through everything manually later. Formatting doesn't even need to be supported. My main concern is equations, I want to reduce the work to convert equations.
What's the best tool of the many that get mentioned?
@JosephWright That is what I meant ;-) What is the issue with @? Looking back a bit I could see references to @ and unicode but I couldn't find the starting point. (You don't have to answer, it is more a rhetorical question). Btw: I have been looking at this old question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/158679/… and I think I have an example without unicode-math.
I have seen this question already but there are lots of answers and it's not clear which tools will handle equations. I want to avoid trying too many ..
@Szabolcs: I do it by hand, copying any non-math related text and add the LaTeX stuff as desired. I've to do this since many co-workers are Word-addicts (or do not know that there's more behind the fog fo MS-Office) ;-)
@Szabolcs I think it can only read .docx, oddly enough. :) I once tried .doc and it complained it could not read this format, but only OOXML (the new x thingy from Microsoft).
@ChristianHupfer I never tried.
@Szabolcs I just got impressed by the number of dependencies when I installed pandoc. :)
@PauloCereda Actually, for my file, pandoc did pretty well. It's quite usable. Now I only wish it used $ instead of \( because I actually need to put this on a website using MathJax and it's set up for $ (not my site).
but wait, it seems it can generate markdown with $-separated LaTeX math too :) great!
Assume you want to introduce the problem formulation. So for example I pick the following text to show what I mean:
"...In other words, given A and B we want to solve the following equation for "x" and y:
Problem 1.
x+1=A
y+2=B. "
So basically where (the place) and how should I use the term ...
@ChristianHupfer The translation is not wrong, but it's too literal. Estar is more along the lines of being somewhere or feeling something, like estou triste (I am sad), estou aqui (I am here), estou esperando por você (I am waiting for you). With nationalities, you are German in the sense of something of your own self, not something that changes over time, so Eu sou alemão / Sou alemão. :)
@Johannes_B That's because you're only answering KOMA and classicthesis questions :-P But I remember that @egreg was approaching the 300k limit when I started to be really active here in Jan. 2014.
@egreg All of it. And a bit of i really don't care right now
@ChristianHupfer The badges don't do anything.
You could of course make real badges, the little ones that often have a band logo and wear them at a TUG meeting. @egreg would look likt the tin-man from wizard of oz.
I am using LaTeX to write my scientific paper. My problem is, the paper is in a foreign language. So when I am making chapters, using
\chapter{...}
I get the default "Chapter 1, ..."
I want to set the entire program into French, so that it reads "Chapitre 1, ...". Same for "Table of contents"...
I know you don't like these kind of comments, but this time I don't mind... My congratulations for yours 400k reputation and my best wishes for the next step: 1/2 million! Grande Enrico. And thanks for all the knowledge you share with us in the site! — karlkoeller1 min ago
I know you don't like these kind of comments, but this time I don't mind... My congratulations for yours 400k reputation and my best wishes for the next step: 1/2 million! Grande Enrico. And thanks for all the knowledge you share with us in the site! — karlkoeller1 min ago
I know you don't like these kind of comments, but this time I don't mind... My congratulations for yours 400k reputation and my best wishes for the next step: 1/2 million! Grande Enrico. And thanks for all the knowledge you share with us in the site! — karlkoeller3 mins ago
@Johannes_B Ha ha :-) There is indeed a general problem: knowledge is not identical to having a lot of information and you can learn more information over time, but you need some information to get started, otherwise you’ll just swim in circles and learn nothing.
@Johannes_B Hence all the problems with people taking over a project that they know nothing of: they never understand anything that’s going on and don’t have enough judgement to realise that some of their ideas are terrible. I’ve had my share of such people I’ve interacted with.
@ArthurReutenauer My whole point. I was talking to a friend a few weeks back. She said a computer is a machine and it has to work, just like a bycicle. I made her realize that a bike is a piece of metal and not useful until you learn how to ride it.
@Johannes_B You would have done well in our little IT support group back at university. We were trying hard to educate our fellow students about various aspects of computer and doing pretty well, I think. One of the most successful training courses was for LaTeX, of course, and we convinced a lot of people to use it for their document, especially in humanities (in sciences they needed less convincing, obviously).
@Johannes_B That was at the beginning at the 2000s, so we had the advantage that not many people had laptops back then, and they would use the computer rooms, which meant people met each other physically on a daily basis. That of course helps a lot.
@egreg That’s going to entertain you: I just got bitten by the absence-of-spurious-space issue you mentioned in your talk in Darmstadt :-) I had one line where I was saying \mynumber=#1\mymacro, with \mymacro correctly protected for spaces, except that this sometimes appended stuff to \mynumber as I was working on \mymacro, so one minute it was working and the next not, and nothing made any sense any more :-D
@ArthurReutenauer Isn't the smartphone generation doomed with respect to simple things like markup and a little bit of command line foo. The rumour that LaTeX needs programming experience is troubling me.
@Johannes_B No, that’s nonsense. People will always be keen to learn new things, provided they get a chance to be introduced to it. Human nature doesn’t change that fast, even if we can get the superficial impression something fundamental has changed with the introduction of new tools; it hasn’t.
@ArthurReutenauer Introducing the unknown. That should start in school by properly educated teachers. Not later, not without any guidance, not with blog-entries.
@Johannes_B In fact, if my experience in the aforementioned group has taught me anything, it’s exactly that: attitudes to the tools one has around oneself are pretty constant. Some people will always reject the good old tools and jump on the latest gadget, but others – the majority, I think – will try and make the most out of what they have right now (even if it needs hard word sometimes).
@ArthurReutenauer In school, we had Informatics. One (school) year only passing some stuff to excel. It made me give up the wish to study informatics after school. Later they were using Pascal for simple programming. The real informatics expert was a student who answered the questions of the teacher in an online forum.
@ArthurReutenauer What I've given you already uses the traditional number system - dates are always specified that way in Welsh Welsh, anyway. (I'm not sure about Patagonian Welsh.) But there are different ways within that system of specifying some numbers. In the new numbering system, that doesn't apply. But the new one is not used for dates or times ever. Which is too bad - the traditional numbering system is completely illogical, not to say utterly batty.
@Johannes_B Yes, we have the same problem in France. The word informatique (with the same meaning as Informatik in German) really doesn’t help, of course.
@cfr Oh right, I see, so you meant that some people will want to use the new, more logical system? I had understood it the other way round. And yes, I noticed that 16 and 17 were something like 1-and-15 and 2-and-15, but that 18 was something else yet (or something like that).
@ArthurReutenauer The teacher was also allowed to teach politics, economy and one of those other side-areas students can choose from. There was some two week course during summer break that made him capable of teaching this. That is not the way to go, imho.
The two settings control different behaviours. Setting -interaction=nonstopmode tells the TeX engine to run with minimal interaction with the user and as far as possible to 'go past' errors. It's therefore very useful in automation. Setting -halt-on-error tells the engine to stop processing the d...
@Johannes_B No, of course not. One really wonders why the public education system doesn’t have real, qualified teachers for these subjects who tour schools and teach the students for a few weeks, rather than pretending that every teacher can be crash-trained for that.
@ArthurReutenauer I was thinking about something like that with LaTeX. Two-day LaTeX course for the 10th grade or something. But that would need a lot of administrative work and time. Maybe @Christian can say something about it.
@Johannes_B Maybe, but it would be worth it. I’m not saying we should have “flying teachers” and a consultant-like school system, but for newer subjects for which teachers are lacking, it’s really better to have fewer teachers who can actually teach something than pretend any teacher can do it.
@ArthurReutenauer Maybe teaching the teachers would be the first thing to start with. Many teachers use Word and produce ugly as hell documents. Students get used to that visual look and that somehow sticks.
@ArthurReutenauer Possibly if they are from Patagonia - I'm not sure. What I meant was, that because the traditional system does not have unique names for ordinals, somebody might be used to using a different version within the traditional system. I can't remember if this applies to numbers under 30 or not. But, if it does, it would be traditional vs. traditional. In Welsh Welsh, the new system isn't used for dates. Period. Indeed, fluent speakers often specify dates in English just because of this.
@ArthurReutenauer And yes, really hair-raising for 15-19: fifteen, one-on-fifteen, two-on-fifteen, two-nines, four-on-firfteen, twenty. It gets worse later, of course. I suppose it is fortunate that months are no longer than they are!
@GonzaloMedina I wasn't trying to fight with you yesterday. Arguing is a professional occupation but I suspect it makes philosophers an argumentative bunch more generally.
@ArthurReutenauer The versions with o are not right. Sorry - I didn't realise that you were going to include the 'the' or I'd have thought of this. This is complicated because the correct form of the article depends on both the preceding word and the following one. If these were to be used within a sentence, you'd need to know the previous word. If they are only to be used in isolation, it is simpler. In that case you just need yr when the ordinal starts with a vowel e.g. yr ail, yr wythfed.
@ArthurReutenauer Also, there are special forms for e.g. the first of May and the first of January so I'm not sure it is really right to use 'y cyntaf o' in those cases. And I'm not sure it is correct to call these the 'formal' form as though the 'standard' form is less formal. 'Formal' is a loaded term in this context - there are many gradations of formality and there are very significant differences - much more than in English. They say that nobody speaks formal, literary Welsh natively ;).
@GonzaloMedina Haha. I think we had enough fun with those :) There is actually the update waiting for the ridiculously upvoted hand-drawn thingy. I need to test it out on XeLaTeX and plain to see whether I can make it a library but right now I'm next to a pool :P
I'm just kidding about the spinner, I needed to find my shortcuts to compile an orgmode to beamer... and you guys spammed it so far back I had to do the advanced search to find it. :D
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!!/texdef -t latex maketitle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command texdoc does not exist. Did you mean: texdef
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@cfr Understood. Is it enough if I change the article? I was going to ask you about the name of the option: what about long and short? By the way: I'm at the Proms watching the BBC National Orchestra of Wales :-)
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: David deserves 10 bucks.
!!/cricket
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Let's take a look at the last cricket results:
- England Under-19s 242/5 * v Australia Under-19s 446/10
- Kent 167/10 & 81/1 * v Northamptonshire 398/10
- Worcestershire 264/8 v Gloucestershire 265/6 *
- Yorkshire 175/10 v Somerset 178/4 *
- Glamorgan 9 * v Sussex
- Essex 297/4 * v Middlesex 296/5
- Warwickshire 89/3 * v Hampshire 280/7
Our cricket expert David might explain these results later on.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:
Donald E. Knuth (computer programmer)
full name | Donald Ervin Knuth
date of birth | Monday, January 10, 1938 (age: 77 years)
place of birth | Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States
Computer scientist known as the father of algorithm analysis and author of The Art of Computer Programming
Created the TeX system for computer typesetting as well as METAFONT and the Computer Modern typefaces
Member of the faculty at Stanford University since 1968, currently a professor emeritus
@AaronHall: Only our two 'old' men here argue all the time which of the two has stolen each other's ticks ;-) I don't give any names (@egreg, @DavidCarlisle) ;-)
@AaronHall: Your profile on SO is impressive, most impressive (deep breath)
Assume you want to introduce the problem formulation. So for example I pick the following text to show what I mean:
"...In other words, given A and B we want to solve the following equation for "x" and y:
Problem 1.
x+1=A
y+2=B. "
So basically where (the place) and how should I use the term ...
I am using LaTeX to write my scientific paper. My problem is, the paper is in a foreign language. So when I am making chapters, using
\chapter{...}
I get the default "Chapter 1, ..."
I want to set the entire program into French, so that it reads "Chapitre 1, ...". Same for "Table of contents"...
