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Ahm
12:26 AM
Hello all, may I ask for help on the question that I have posted in tex.stackexchange.com/a/115825/23594
I am trying to have % and # in the url in the bibliography while using backref
 
@Ahmad you should build a minimal (not) working example; use package filecontents to include two entrys of your used bibfile. Then we can see what happend and try to help you. Now there is too less information ...
 
Ahm
Sure. I am going to do it right now.
Here is the minimal code:
\documentclass[
                openright,
                titlepage, numbers=noenddot, headinclude,%1headlines,
                footinclude=true, cleardoublepage=empty,
                BCOR=30mm, paper=letter, fontsize=11pt, % Binding correction, paper type and font size
                ngerman, american, % Languages
                ]{scrreprt}


\PassOptionsToPackage{%
                    eulerchapternumbers,
                    listings,
                    pdfspacing,
                    subfig,
The bibliography file contains the following citation:
@misc{chdkiller,
  author = {},
  title = {{Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Vital Statistics Public Use
  Data Files - 2008 Mortality Multiple Cause Files}},
  howpublished = "\url{cdc.gov/nchs/data_access/…}",
  year = {2012},
  note = "[Online; accessed March 7, 2012]"
}
If I remove # from the url in the bibliography file, it will work.
I am using the bibliography style file posted in tex.stackexchange.com/a/106169/23594
It seems backref package does not like % and # in the urls.
 
1:09 AM
@Ahmad please add your MWE in your question ...
 
Ahm
@Kurt: I am using MikTeX 2.9.
@Kurt: sure
@Kurt: I just added it.
 
@Ahmad were does style abbrvunsrtnatcomes from? Gaves me an error: unknown ...
Ah, now I saw your link ...
 
Ahm
@Kurt: sure.
 
 
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2:32 AM
@DavidCarlisle ! LaTeX Error: File anything.sty' not found.`
 
 
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Ahm
5:03 AM
I have updated my question in tex.stackexchange.com/a/115825/23594
 
 
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kan
6:51 AM
@dıʞsdoʇ I was thinking more about the detexfaq site (that you host?). I had also seen that you had asked Joseph, Paulo and Marco(Martin?) to write up something there. So, I thought you'd be happy to see a contribution. :)
@DavidCarlisle Hello! How's the day today?
 
7:03 AM
@kan Contributions are not only welcome, but very welcome.
@kan You can edit without logging in
 
7:17 AM
@PauloCereda Having done lot's of coding in Lips I agree (car, cdr)
\def\@car#1#2\@nil{#1}
\def\@cdr#1#2\@nil{#2}
 
7:28 AM
23 hours ago, by David Carlisle
@JosephWright miserable, as usual
 
@DavidCarlisle Like winter here
 
8:18 AM
@dıʞsdoʇ Which will take O(n) time each if I'm not mistaken...
 
@StephanLehmke they are part of the latex format:-) O(something) but with a small factor as the scan to discard the tail as #2 is proportional to the length of the data of the list (not the number of items) but is relatively quick compared to something that has lower order but requires more expansions.
 
@DavidCarlisle Still I think it's good to keep in mind that TeX is not turning to Lisp by defining \car and \cdr this way. With Lisp you're used to define a map by iterating car and cdr. With TeX it's better to code the list with a "helper macro" and implement the map by just executing the list.
 
8:33 AM
@StephanLehmke Yes I think that's what Leslie discovered:-) The original comments in LaTeX 2.0x were in a lispish pseudo-code and \@car and \@cdr were defined in the very earliest versions of LaTeX but they are in fact only used a couple of times each, one of which is in the LaTeX2e macro:-) Almost all List processing in the format happens (even in latex2.09) by defining \@elt then executing \@elt a \@elt b ...
 
@DavidCarlisle Which is more-or-less how the non-expandable sequence mappings are set up in expl3 :-)
 
@JosephWright Well I wasn't assuming to tell you lot anything new ;-)
Still it's odd how popular comma-separated lists still are in TeX :-(
 
@StephanLehmke Useful for user input or saving easily to auxiliary files
@StephanLehmke The expl3 view is that they are 'handy' but limited
@StephanLehmke We've had a few different implementations before arriving at the current one :-)
 
@JosephWright I think this is superficial in the sense of self-fulfillingness.
 
@StephanLehmke At one point I suggested dropping comma-list support from expl3, but this did not fly, not least because if you want to allow the internal form to vary, the only way to add to a 'sequence' is one item at a time while a comma list always has the same form so can be set in 'one shot'
 
8:42 AM
@JosephWright Uh wut
What do you mean by "allow the internal form to vary"?
 
@StephanLehmke If you want to define a list of items, with a comma list you know you can do \def\mylist{a,b,c,d,e}. On the other hand, if you have some arbitrary sequence form the only way to do it is \addtoseq\myseq{a}\addtoseq\myseq{b}\addtoseq\myseq{c}..., unless you are going to tie your use of the sequence to the way you've defined the internals (\@elt in LaTeX2e).
@StephanLehmke One of the ideas in expl3 is that the interfaces are defined but the implementation can be changed, provided we don't alter the expected behaviour.
 
@JosephWright Well it's the same as asking for the comma to vary, isn't it? Why is one form allowed to have a fixed syntax and the other not?
 
Thus only code inside l3seq should have to 'know' how sequences are implemented
 
You have a specific top-level abstraction layer and variation happens below that.
 
@StephanLehmke As I said, a comma list is relatively straightforward and is by definition delimited by commas, while some 'sequence data structure' is not
It's a compromise between 'purity' and realism
 
8:47 AM
@JosephWright Which is a variation of specification and has nothing to do with implementation, which is inherently inferior for the comma-separated list.
 
@StephanLehmke But at the interface level (say in a document), using a comma list is a question of realism. Same applies to a keyval list: it is tied to the interface to some extent.
 
As a counterpart of "some sequence data structure", you need "some delimited data structure". Fixing the comma is unfair in comparison.
@JosephWright As I said, the comma list is straightforward by habit. There are other languages without comma lists.
 
@StephanLehmke I'm sure
 

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