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8:28 AM
@MarkoLustro Did you ask a question on main already? I think i saw something like this, but cannot find it anymore.
Q: How declare a new package language

Marko LustroI need writing normal text and some sentences in artifical conscript language. How writing small as possible package and how use it (include?) in file? My language have my own font and each glyphs is defined as one or more chars. K->K u->ó sh[number] -> x or x1 or x2 ... etc for example: S...

@JosephWright Exactly, thanks :-)
@MarkoLustro To answer a question, you have to understand the problem. I still don't, and i think i am not the only one.
9:10 AM
Morning all
9:28 AM
@JosephWright 'ello!
Decision day for the TUG representative list
@JosephWright yay
Q: What about ClassicThesis?

MarcauI am a student and I'm looking for a nice and enjoyable "layout" for writing my thesis (which is not so close: I'm forestalling). Now, I've read about ClassicThesis, and I gathered that this is a very good candidate. My questions for you are: Are there other styles which you would recommend, or C...

@egreg: ^^ one for you :)
> I gathered that this is a very good candidate.
9:56 AM
@DavidCarlisle When you have a mo, would you look over the latest check-ins for unicode-data?
10:13 AM
@JosephWright OK...
@JosephWright good start. svn update didn't work...
@DavidCarlisle ?
@JosephWright what I typed, git pull still doesn't come to mind first thing in the morning:-)
Meanwhile @JosephWright @WillRobertson @barbarabeeton blogs.msdn.com/b/murrays/archive/2016/02/05/…
@DavidCarlisle We could always bung it on comedy
@DavidCarlisle :-)
10:32 AM
@PauloCereda Either “too broad” or “opinion based”.
@JosephWright I think @WillRobertson is hoping they don't go with the variation selector which is a bit of a pain to deal with in tex, trouble is it's hard to argue too strongly that tex can't handle suffix characters as in theory there are several variant selector combinations already
@JosephWright tests pass and it looks right. I installed it rebuilt the formats, will do a few sanity checks...
11:04 AM
@DavidCarlisle ^^ :)
11:15 AM
@egreg Thanks, for correcting my answer, i forgot about that package :)
@Octopus You're welcome!
@DavidCarlisle Hopefully all Unicode maths font designers use a "ss01" (or similar) feature to switch the variants. Although that wouldn't produce 100% correct output...
@WillRobertson translation for someone who's never really looked in detail inside the fonts?
11:37 AM
@WillRobertson OK that would allow switching of the variant styles for the same slot not via the scheme that they'll probably recommend which has variant selector after every letter?
11:49 AM
@DavidCarlisle Yes, if we just load another font to access the calligraphic alphabet that's much easier to implement than looping through input and adding the variant selector (but I assume it works okay?)
12:15 PM
@WillRobertson but does it work to add the VS at all in math? isn't the math layout going to make separate math atoms out of each character not pass the pair to the font to combine? Also I was more worried about what you'd do with an input file in which the variant selector inline with no markup warning, like combining accents in text
@JosephWright I don't know why @WillRobertson struggles with unicode-math, testing latest math class loader, seems to work with a couple of lines of code:-) xetex version.
\font\z="[latinmodern-math.otf]" at 10pt
\input load-unicode-math-classes.tex

$x+2=\alpha$ % just to get NFSS math setup out th eway

$x+2 = α$

12:39 PM
@DavidCarlisle Oh yes, that doesn't work well at all does it :-(. You don't think that's enough of a reason to bring up as an objection?
@DavidCarlisle Mostly my struggles are from poor code that I wrote when I was young and naive :-)
@WillRobertson It might be, but you could speak with more authority. The unicode people may not be impressed though to hear that even unicode tex variants struggle with the whole Unicode combining character idea:(
@WillRobertson no one mention longtable
12:57 PM
@DavidCarlisle LOL
@DavidCarlisle: ^^
Guys, @samcarter has nominated for the TUG thingy!
A: TUG Membership: Names for 2016

samcarterThe last day of the election and only 7 nominees for 8 positions? That is kind of sad, so I will add myself to the nominees, even if I am much less qualified than the others -- no TeX development or something, just a user. I am an enthusiastic LaTeX user since the beginning of my studies in 2007...

@PauloCereda more bugs than features :(
@DavidCarlisle <3
1:22 PM
@WillRobertson it may still work out better in some respects, if some fonts have the script and some don't you could just set the catcode of the VS character to ignore and pretend it isn't there. If the fonts also let you use either style via a style selector thing then you could still set that up as an option.
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2:26 PM
@DavidCarlisle Looks good then: I'll update CTAN
@DavidCarlisle Indeed, similar in LuaTeX (in plain for convenience):
  \input luaotfload.sty %
\font\z="[latinmodern-math.otf]" at 10pt
\input load-unicode-math-classes.tex
$x+2 = α$
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3:40 PM
Practical LaTeX has arrived: hope to read it over the coming days
4:08 PM
@JosephWright Have fun :-)
4:29 PM
Heya =)
4:43 PM
@ChristianHupfer Hi I was traveling and not checking the site much. Yes, I have a TUG membership. Thanks for thinking of me though.
@DavidCarlisle Right, now I need to work out a minimal math set up ...
@AlanMunn Thanks for reply ;-) Apparently everybody is a TUG member by now :D
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6:01 PM
@ChristianHupfer but it's good, we're getting new and new people to nominate themselves!
Now excuse me, I've got to renew my subscription... :)
It's a good feeling to be a TUG member again :-)

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