12:13 AM
@JosephWright Thanks; I added a comment explaining the situation. Probably I should load l3str along with xpatch, but …

12:47 AM
I LOL'ed so much.

@PauloCereda I did not. The whole thing just shows that it's money that drive sports, not sport. What the other team did was a true shit.

1:13 AM
I think there's a bug with mpinclude in KOMA-Script
\documentclass{scrbook}
\usepackage{kantlipsum}
\KOMAoptions{mpinclude}
\begin{document}
\chapter{Kant}
\kant
\end{document}
The \KOMAoptions{mpinclude} moves the headers and footers away.

2:04 AM
Hi Tex Gurus,
I have a document set using mathpazo. Now I have code listings I want to include using minted, that contain unicode characters like Π or ⦃. 1.) Can I set them nicely in a TT font without using xelatex? 2.) If I'll use xelatex and fontspec, can I somehow prevent the rest of the document from using TT or OT fonts but instead stay the same as what it looks like now? I'm not very satisfied with the appearance of several OT alternatives I tried.

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8:03 AM
@yo' Money isn't actually a surprise. People are now finding how much millions in bribes happened in the last World Cup in Brazil.

@PauloCereda yeah. Let's stick to frisbee for a while, there's not much money involved. But once it gets spoiled, we'll have to find yet something new.

@yo' :)

8:33 AM
What is the recommended method of getting footnotes at the bottom of the page when using \raggedbottom? I have a long standing request for memoir to implement that. And I'm finally going to have a look at it. There is the fnpos package which seems to do what is needed (and is very simple). So I'm just asking is there is a preferred method of doing is and whether there are classes already providing this (which one can get inspiration from)?

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9:44 AM
@daleif I'll have a look what I do for a similar problem I've been solving in \twocolumn
@daleif So it seems that I modify the output routine directly by tweaking \@makecol that is responsible for this in \twocolumn ...

@daleif not sure if it's recommended or not but \usepackage[bottom]{footmisc} has been around since the dawn of time

@yo' that is exactly what fnpos does

@daleif well, it makes sense to me, after all... Just you probably should just use the code, not the package, so that you have control over what's going on...

@DavidCarlisle as far as I remember there are some elements in it that are not compatible with memoir (I usually never use it). But perhaps I can get som inspiration from it.
@yo' the code part of fnpos is 40 lines ;-), but it is also from '99 so there might be things missing (which is why I'm asking), for example things from fixltx2e?

@daleif fixltx2e is @David's middle name, you better ask him :-)

9:52 AM
@yo' hehe

@daleif just compared it to the 2015 \@makecol and it looks sort of reasonable, didn't try it though

For comparison, my version of \@makecol:
  \gdef\@makecol{%
\ifvoid\footins
\setbox\@outputbox\box\@cclv
\else
\setbox\@outputbox\vbox{%
\boxmaxdepth \@maxdepth
\unvbox\@cclv
% here, we add 4 lines so that \box\@kludgeins is inserted before \box\footins
\ifvbox\@kludgeins
\box\@kludgeins
\vfill
\fi
\vskip \skip\footins
\color@begingroup
\normalcolor
\footnoterule
\unvbox\footins
\color@endgroup
}%

@DavidCarlisle thanks. I'll see if I can implement an addition. Then we can let the public test it.

\label -- I think I just found something uglier than Comic Sans.

@daleif @DavidCarlisle @yo' not sure I'm awake already, but rather than changing the OR code couldn't one simply change \skip\footins to contain some "filll"?

10:04 AM
@FrankMittelbach IIRC I tried this and it failed, but lemme check.

@FrankMittelbach footmisc puts the footnotes under bottom floats

@DavidCarlisle that's a different requirement, so yes if you want to do that then you need to mod the OR

@FrankMittelbach running a ctan build here to check before checkin in but I think I've done the reference to gnats in headers, also plan to change ...{base} in the maintainedby banner to ...{LaTeX} (since that's what the gnats for requires, that OK?)

ah, I'm solving a bit different problem it seems

@FrankMittelbach I have no voice though (and have just been put on a course of various things by the doctor, so I'm off work:-(

10:09 AM
@DavidCarlisle right you are ... it should be "latex"
@DavidCarlisle well you don't talk to your computer do you?
all the best for a speedy recovery though - hope it doesn't hurt too much

@FrankMittelbach mm lowercase, will fix to lowercase before checkin in.

@DavidCarlisle well it is lowercase on gnats not sure LaTeX would be accepted

@FrankMittelbach true but that's why I decided it wasn't worth going to the office. It's been "croaky" all week but this morning It's basically not there at all,
@FrankMittelbach yes, needs to be lowercase, I'll let the build checks finish though now as they are three quarters through, then lc them.

10:45 AM
@David: get well, buddy. <3

10:55 AM
@DavidCarlisle You going to upload to DropBox?

@JosephWright I wasn't planning to but I could if you want?

@DavidCarlisle I'll do it: let me know when checkins are finished

@JosephWright I just spotted a couple of dates in readme files then done..

@DavidCarlisle OK

@JosephWright I'll probably spot something in a bit but I think that if that builds for you it's good to go to dropbox.

11:01 AM
@DavidCarlisle :-)

@JosephWright I did a build ctan a few minutes ago, just doing another now for checking "can't go wrong edits" like 2014->2015 but if you push yours to dropbox that's probably safest.

@DavidCarlisle OK

11:30 AM
Hello guys, may I kindly direct your attention towards tex.stackexchange.com/questions/235299/…
A user very kindly posted a solution that almost work, but there is a problem with ambiguous header names being uniquely labelled by the pgfplotstables package in an undesirable way

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1:00 PM
I AM NERVOUS! WHO CAN HELP ME!?
:D

@yo' If you tell me how to underline a header, I'll tell you how to how to un-get nervous :)

@topskip soul? Actually, it may be the solution for both the two of us: Have a good soul :D
now I gotta go, the seminar is in 20 minutes

1:37 PM
@PauloCereda quack!!! ^^^

@PaulGessler lol

2:03 PM
Heya
@JosephWright Yo, quick Q do you know how to draw an ellipsoid with pgfplots? I am trying to draw x^2/9 + y^2/4 = 1

2:45 PM
Or rather i am trying to plot $z = x^2 + y^2$, under the restriction that (x/3)^2+(y/4)^2 - 1 = 0

2:59 PM
@N3buchadnezzar Yo! Can't you make it parametric? y = 4 * (1-(x/3)^2)^(1/2) ?

@yo' That's what I did =)
@yo' Any idea how to make it visually clearer? I know it looks like a pringles, but I am not sure the students I am TA'ing for sees it that way.. =)

@N3buchadnezzar make a 3d image that you can grab and rotate during the talk?

@yo' If only I were that good at beamer/tikz/pgfplots/whatever works..

@N3buchadnezzar none of these I think :p

Hi guys, I'm using utf8 input encoding and I have minted code listings using unicode and Ubuntu Mono as a Font. Ubuntu Mono actually has quite a lot of characters, but nevertheless symbols like ⦃ are only shown as boxes. What am I doing wrong? Do I just have to convert my files to UTF16?

3:06 PM
@yo' :p I know you can use the animate package, but not sure how that interacts with 3d plots

@N3buchadnezzar well, I would get out of LaTeX for this.

@yo' =P

@N3buchadnezzar I would be able to do this in Sage, but that's linux-only, you're on windoze. Moreover, the beast has got 4GB now

@javra make small complete example and ask a question on site. It's much easier to test an example and vastly more people will see your question

@DavidCarlisle I'll do that, thank you!

3:11 PM
@javra if you are using pdflatex rather than xetex you need to find a font with those characters in positions 0-255 (or re-encode an existing font so that is the case)

@yo' Isn't there a cloud-based Sage?

@DAvi
@DavidCarlisle I should have said, I am using xetex.

@javra oh you asked same question just as i was going to bed last night when you said "without using xelatex?` ...?

I found a way to use mathpazo and TeX Gyre Pagella which looks fine, so I changed my decision on that :)

@yo' ?