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12:25 AM
Home, at last! :)
 
@PauloCereda Hurray! Good night!
 
@egreg Good night! :)
 
 
8 hours later…
8:56 AM
@egreg not quite understod, there does not seem to be any problems.
 
Hi all.
I cannot deal with tabularx package, could you please have a look at this?
\begin{table}
  \centering
  \caption{Some caption
  \label{tab:label}}
  \begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{ X X X }
    $\alpha$ & $\beta$ & $n$ \\
    1 & 2 & 3 \\
  \end{tabularx}
\end{table}
Seems that I understand something wrong in tabularx.
 
@mikeonly what is the problem, and do you mind posting a full example so we don't have to guess.
 
The table doesn't renders at all with a warning: File.tex:184 Reference "tab:label"' on page 1 undefined
@daleif The problem is that this table is not created with a warning.
 
@mikeonly that is just because it has to be compiled twice for the label to be updated. Are you sure there are no other errors you editor might be hiding from you?
Since this compiles without errors, there are something you are not telling us
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
\usepackage{tabularx}
\begin{document}
\begin{table}
\centering
\caption{Some caption
\label{tab:label}}
\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{ X X X }
$\alpha$ & $\beta$ & $n$ \\
1 & 2 & 3 \\
\end{tabularx}
\end{table}
\end{document}
 
@daleif Oh, there is \toprule from booktabs.
 
9:05 AM
@mikeonly as I mentioned, the code you are posting is not complete. Please generate a minimal version that also shows your error. This is also a vital skill in learning to debug LaTeX code.
 
@daleif Also its a multicolumn layout.
@daleif Ok, I'll try.
 
@mikeonly and you can see how you are wasting my time by not telling this?
 
@daleif I admit. And is multicolumn a problem?
 
@mikeonly nope
\documentclass[a4paper,twocolumn]{article}
\usepackage{tabularx,booktabs}
\usepackage{kantlipsum}
\begin{document}
\kant[1-3]
\begin{table}
\centering
\caption{Some caption
\label{tab:label}}
\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{ X X X }
\toprule
$\alpha$ & $\beta$ & $n$ \\
1 & 2 & 3 \\
\bottomrule
\end{tabularx}
\end{table}
\kant[1-3]
\end{document}
compiles just fine
 
@mikeonly as I said to you the other day it is much better to ask questions on site, that is what it is there for.
 
9:10 AM
\documentclass[twoside]{article}
\usepackage{tabularx,booktabs,multicol}
\usepackage{kantlipsum}
\begin{document}
\begin{multicols}{2}
\kant[1-3]
\begin{table}
\centering
\caption{Some caption
\label{tab:label}}
\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{ X X X }
\toprule
$\alpha$ & $\beta$ & $n$ \\
1 & 2 & 3 \\
\bottomrule
\end{tabularx}
\end{table}
\kant[1-3]
\end{multicols}{2}
\end{document}
@DavidCarlisle Sorry, I promise I'll post this question in the evening.
The code I provided doesn't render table as well.
 
@mikeonly why are you using multicols inside a twocolumn document? That does not make sense
And the proper warning you are looking for is
Package multicol Warning: Floats and marginpars not allowed inside `multicols'
environment!.
 
@daleif Hm, my fault. I've used some template with this block.
 
You get warned in the log Package multicol Warning: Floats and marginpars not allowed inside `multicols'
environment!. and the float disappears just remove multicols
 
As @DavidCarlisle said, a question like this belongs on the site, not really in the chat.
 
@daleif I bag your pardon. Every issue I have mentioned so far will be on the site today. Now I am just getting all things work.
I need multicols as I have abstract full page width as well as large tables are not in the columns too.
@daleif So if I remove [twoside], reference becomes good, though tables still doesn't render. What else should I correct?
 
9:19 AM
@mikeonly latex has two mechanisms for setting two column text, [twocolumn] and multicol package. You can not use both.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, thanks. I've removed [twocolumn].
 
@mikeonly so most likely uou want to use [twocolumn] and not multicols
 
@DavidCarlisle I see no way how to place some content not in two columns not using multicolumn.
 
@mikeonly probably the wrong choice if you have table and figure environments that need to float.
@mikeonly use \onecolumn to get the text pages in one column or \begin{table*} to get a two-column wide float at top of a two column page
 
@DavidCarlisle Does it mean that I cannot place tables at all inside multicolumn environment?
 
9:24 AM
@mikeonly yes
 
@DavidCarlisle That's sad. Thanks.
 
@mikeonly well you can use table* and figure* for two-column floats
@JosephWright if you used \hskip rather than \hspace in ltunicode couldn't the xetex and luatex inifiles use the same file?
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes: will change exactly that later on today
@DavidCarlisle Also need to think about name: .ltx is wrong if they might be read by plain
@DavidCarlisle Thought ltunicode.def
 
@JosephWright or lose the lt as well texunicode.def? Depends a bit whether karl would want to use the file as is for the other formats I suppose
 
@DavidCarlisle I'd wondered about the lt part, certainly
 
9:32 AM
@JosephWright unicode-letters.tex ?
 
@DavidCarlisle Already taken :-)
@DavidCarlisle I was thinking .def by analogy with pdftex.def, etc. in the graphics area, which also load with plain
 
@JosephWright well not if this were considered an update of the file, just generated differently
@JosephWright yes def works as well
 
@DavidCarlisle Will raise on the list before changing the name at all: seems the best plan
 
@JosephWright yep, depends a lot on what Karl wants to do for the plain based formats
 
9:47 AM
@mikeonly nope ... well yes you can but what I was asking for is a plain old-fashioned email
 
10:04 AM
@mikeonly Where did the template came from?
 
yo'
10:20 AM
Tell me please, is it wrong to say: "If you are going to be at home on Tuesday morning, ..." ?
 
@DavidCarlisle, @FrankMittelbach Thoughts on the name of ltunicode.ltx (LaTeX-L list mail) very welcome!
@DavidCarlisle, @FrankMittelbach, @egreg (others too) Did you see the mail on the LuaTeX list about ^^M?
 
@JosephWright yes tex implementations have never been consistent about that (which was why we had the ascii.tcx thing in the test suite) just how it is I think.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, but try working out a way to get LuaTeX to behave: it's very tricky!
 
@yo' looks Ok to me
 
@DavidCarlisle One problem is that the LuaTeX devs work on the 'code should move to LuaTeX-only' approach meaning that the discussion 'How do I do this cross-engine?' is a bit tricky!
 
10:33 AM
@JosephWright Actually I'm surprised it uses ^^M at all, I'd have thought consistent thing would be to write all characters as-is
 
@DavidCarlisle See LuaTeX manual page 18
 
@JosephWright underhand blow:-)
 
> Output to the terminal uses ^^ notation for the lower control range (c < 32), with the exception of ^^I, ^^J and ^^M. These are considered ‘safe’ and therefore printed as-is.
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@JosephWright but Hans showed it writing ^^M in his reply?
 
@DavidCarlisle ConTeXt: \catcode`\^=12\relax
@DavidCarlisle I thought that reply was a bit odd: it's ConTeXt specific or at least should say 'with ^ as 'other'...'
 
10:37 AM
@JosephWright oh I didn't spot that:-) (I have been asleep for most of past two days, not sure I really should have come in to work this morning:-)
@JosephWright context has that globally?
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes
@DavidCarlisle Math active
 
@JosephWright no, not on it - what's about it?
@JosephWright we use ltx inside the kernel when we support that people have their own config files overwriting replacing it (at least that's what we did) - so not sure.
 
10:54 AM
@JosephWright so do you know what this outputs with pdftex and pdftex -8bit ?
\catcode`\^^M=12
\immediate\write20{aaaa^^Mb}
\bye
I get aaaa^^Mb in one case and baaa in the other (order reversed and one a lost????)
@FrankMittelbach It's about whether ^^M should write as ^^M or as a newline character
 
11:12 AM
@JosephWright oops no it does write a char13 it's just that xterm then backspaces....
 
yo'
11:32 AM
@DavidCarlisle well, baaa is literally aaaa<CR>b, with <LF> missing :)
 
@JosephWright Perhaps it looks OK from the perspective of LuaTeX^H^H^H^H^H Hans, but maybe not from the perspective of LuaTeX users.
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
@egreg :-)
@egreg It is quite tricky: most LuaTeX users are probably using LuaLaTeX but the development work is all focussed on ConTeXt
@egreg The approach of the LuaTeX team is pretty clear: things are different with LuaTeX but as you can't use the same input with pdfTeX anyway then that's fine
 
12:01 PM
@yo' yes but I thought it was doing that in an internal buffer and then writing baaa but it's not it's writing out the full string
 
12:16 PM
@yo' -- did anyone ever answer your question about tuesday morning? anyhow, yes, it is okay to say that. (sounds like someone should be expecting a visit or a phone call.)
 
Hey guys, how can I create a section heading aligned at the left like in this document ladyada.net/media/pub/resume.pdf
 
12:31 PM
hmm, if I have a multipage PDF, and use \includegraphics[page=num]{file.pdf} is there a way to test that page num exist?
 
hmmm bread!
I am very hungry! :)
Ducks love bread. :)
Oh no my bread is gone!
ooh now I have those Black Forest biscuits!
 
12:50 PM
@daleif Yes, with \pdflastximagepages (for pdftex).
@daleif VVVVVV
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\begin{document}
\sbox0{\includegraphics{example-image.pdf}}
\the\pdflastximagepages

\sbox0{\includegraphics{/usr/local/texlive/2014/texmf-dist/doc/pdftex/manual/pdftex-a.pdf}}
\the\pdflastximagepages

\end{document}
For XeTeX there's \XeTeXpdfpagecount
 
@egreg didn't know that one. thanks
Turned out I'd had used the wrong counter for the automatic page retrieval ...
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh no!
 
Could you help me as well please? :P
 
@Nickolas post it as a question on the site. It looks like one of the normal CV classes.
 
1:04 PM
thanks
 
1:16 PM
0
Q: Alignment of numbers in siunitx table

Svend TveskægConsider the following code: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{booktabs} \usepackage[locale = DE]{siunitx} \ExplSyntaxOn \cs_new_eq:NN \calc \fp_eval:n \ExplSyntaxOff \newcommand*\interval[1]{]\calc{#1},\calc{#1+\intL}]} \newcommand*\maksForskudt{\calc{\maksimum-\intL}} \newcommand*\hyppi...

Answer or close (it's a typo, really)?
 
yo'
1:29 PM
@barbarabeeton @David answer, but thanks anyways :)
 
@JosephWright sorry, no idea. MWE was TL;DR... ;-) He's included all the code so that the answer does exactly what he wants, but all that code made me not understand what he's actually after.
 
1:50 PM
Or Holy Week pamphlet. :)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda \raggedright :)
 
@yo' You are the second person to suggest this today. <3
 
yo'
@PauloCereda and tell me, can you have the word "e" at the end of line in Portuguese?
 
@yo' No, we can't. :)
 
Off topic? It's about math notation, rather than TeX
0
Q: Sub-indexing matrices in mathmode

Xion345Suppose we have the following elements: I would like to find a compact representation for the nth element of the ith line of the matrix A, where n is the ith element of v, that is to say : I currently note this element as follows I need a compact representation for this element because i...

 
1:55 PM
@yo' Ah end of line yes, end of sentence no. :)
 
@egreg -- off topic, but better migrated than just deleted.
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton I dunno, it "looks trivial"
 
Have you guys noticed that Thomas drew a butterfly with tcolorboxes in the front cover of his manual? I will suggest him to draw a duck for the upcoming release. :)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda :) It'll be the most rectangular duck ever :D
 
@yo' -- you'd know better than i about "trivial". i never made it past advanced calculus.
 
yo'
2:00 PM
@barbarabeeton well, you know enough about math notation to know that this is a standard thing to do I think ;)
 
@yo' yaaaay!
 
@yo' -- i know what it looks like, not what it means. (there's a big difference ...)
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton ah. Well: $A_{i,j}$, where $j=v_i$ is the same as $A_{i,v_i}$ :)
 
@yo' -- okay. i can parse that one.
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton actually, I've been copy editing these two things back or forth in the articles when it was convenient. Especially when authors have huge unreadable matrices, I tend to simplify them by de-composing them.
 
2:45 PM
@DavidCarlisle How about putting this tex.stackexchange.com/a/235037 to your blkarray?
 
@LaRiFaRi well you could set it with blkarray anyway, not sure I really want to add features to it
@PauloCereda "Santa" does that mean there are presents?
 
3:00 PM
@egreg Seems you just got another brown badge, tex.stackexchange.com/questions/57498/…
 
3:21 PM
@DavidCarlisle sure? What about the vert. alignment of the = ?
@DavidCarlisle I thougt, this would be higher with blkarray
@DavidCarlisle ah, just seeing the newer answer. Wel
l, ok then.
 
3:53 PM
@LaRiFaRi I haven't the faintest idea what most of the blkarray code is doing, it's an awfully long time ago:-)
 
4:10 PM
@DavidCarlisle Doesn't matter. Just thought, it should be in this package, if it would find the way to CTAN
 
@yo' -- gee, there are some authors i'd like to de-compose!
 
yo'
4:26 PM
@barbarabeeton it's a joke, right? :D
 
@yo' One of these days i guess ...
0
Q: I am finding it difficult to format an continuous double auction algorithm

user749691: Pul and Pll are formed on the market trading history; Pul acceptable lower acceptable price Pll upper acceptable ask price 2: r = 0; 3: while r ≤ min(supply, demand) do 4: oa = Pul ; ob = Pll ; 5: while true do 6: nondetermistic choice 7: case a buyer submits a bid: ...

 
@yo' -- usually, but not necessarily always. (there's one who has published a book with ams purporting to tell other authors how to use (la)tex to prepare their books and papers, but his own use of latex is so dreadful that i'm embarrassed whenever i open the book. what he's written wouldn't even be good latex 2.09! and the stickies marking the errors make the book look like a porcupine. this is not the author of "math into latex".)
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton I like the mere idea of de-composing people one doesn't like :D
 
yo'
@Johannes_B it got into the LQ queue (10k tool I think)
 
4:34 PM
@yo' Ah, ok.
@yo' Almost always, alll queues are empty when checking.
 
I am totally clueless. I think I'll ask a question on the site. </grumble>
 
yo'
@AlanMunn what's wrong?
 
@yo' Perhaps I should have put the statements in quotes...
 
yo'
@AlanMunn ah, the users are wrong, not your code! :)
 
4:50 PM
@yo' Indeed. I'm not usually one to get annoyed at really basic questions, but sometimes I wonder.
 
yo'
but then it's more: "I getz a mistake I duuno whats happens I need quick answerz"
 
@yo' More like "I hazn't read anything so tell me now!"
 
yo'
@AlanMunn I considered more then many times closing these questions as dupes of Q 11.
 
yo'
@Johannes_B that's a jewel
 
4:55 PM
@yo' Yes, exactly. When something that is covered in even the worst written intro is the source of the question it makes you wonder.
 
@yo' I just put a string of text from that question into google, and it was leading back to TeX.sx. Wow, google is fast.
 
@Johannes_B Well that's at least a slightly less trivial problem than the one I have in mind.
 
@AlanMunn The problem may be non-trivial, but the question as is is rubbish. What question is bugging you?
 
yo'
@Johannes_B Google is sometimes faster than the front page, due to caching :-)
 
0
Q: Creating bullets within a subsection

Kyle AlbanyI'm fairly new to LaTeX, and I have no idea how to fix this. Basically I make a subsection using \section, and then create subsections using \subsectiond. Now I need to create bullets within the subsection, but I can't find syntax that works. Can anybody help me out?

 
yo'
@Johannes_B ah, looks like someone is plagiarizing, moreover :D
 
@yo' But if that bit is accessible, there is no copyright trouble?
 
@DavidCarlisle I wish. :)
 
yo'
@Johannes_B you mean for SE? That's a good question. I dunno. We may need a mod on this
@Joseph: @Johannes found that this question is a verbatim copy of a text from a copyrighted material (available on google books search -- link follows, but it doesn't change the fact it's copyrighted). Have you got an idea if this is frowned upon?
 
@yo' perhaps a well-known algorithm?
 
yo'
@PauloCereda still, taken verbatim, even including the identical formatting a line numbers. To me, this seems like a clear copy-paste from the book.
 
@yo' Oh I missed these details. In this case, looks like infringement.
 
yo'
@PauloCereda trained eye ya know, yo!
 
@yo' yo! <3
 
5:07 PM
@Johannes_B :) Number 1843
 
@egreg I was the one to pull the trigger. :-p
 
@Johannes_B I've deleted
 
@JosephWright Allright. Thanks.
 
5:22 PM
@AlanMunn somebody going to suggest the picture environment?
 
yo'
@JosephWright thanks.
 
@FrankMittelbach David maybe. :)
 
yo'
5:51 PM
@AlanMunn I'm really tempted to close that one as a duplicate, because this is 100% applicable: "This question already has an answer here: What are good learning resources for a LaTeX beginner?."
 
6:09 PM
I was playing Monopoly with my friends last night (Xbox One) and we suddenly realized it was the English version of the game!
I bought some sort of Piccadilly Circus, I think I made a good deal. :P
 
6:37 PM
this question
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Q: Adding letters in hyphenation of Swedish words

AhlqvistSwedish writing conventions states that in compound words, when three successive identical consonants occur, one of them should be omitted. An example of this is glass (ice cream) and strut (cone), which form the compound word glasstrut (ice cream cone), not glassstrut. Another example is ägg an...

has been proposed as a duplicate for this question:
 
@PauloCereda vvv
 
4
Q: When hyphenation of a word includes an additional letter

DustByteIn some languages a word on the form abcxxdef (note that there is only two occurrences of the letter x) is the compound of the two words abcxx and xdef. Sometimes the hyphenation rule is to break the word into its two parts: abcxx-xdef. Note that the letter x now occurs three times. How can I, fo...

 
@DavidCarlisle ooh!
 
the question is essentially the same, but the answers are very different. what is the best way to handle this? i can re-enter the answer i posted for the second question, but it already has more upvotes than any answers to the first question, and i don't think those would transfer. ???
and another question, probably stupid -- how to keep the pieces together when a couple of cited examples are interspersed with text?
 
6:45 PM
@barbarabeeton type faster. :-) (That's the only way I know, at least.)
 
@PaulGessler -- uh, thanks. i can type faster, but nobody can make any sense of the output, including me.
 
@DavidCarlisle Where is that?
 
7:15 PM
@Canageek Piccadilly Circus, London.
 
@AlanMunn Cool
 
@AlanMunn My property, according to last night's Monopoly session. :)
 
7:37 PM
@PauloCereda yeah
 
@FrankMittelbach :)
 
@PauloCereda but you really should play those as board games not virtual ... ever played roborally? google.de/…
 
7:57 PM
@FrankMittelbach ooh cool! :) I usually play these games live, but someone suggested trying the Xbox One version. :)
 
@PauloCereda if you can get hold of it this is worth a try. it is really great .. all people have to program their robots secretly (has only 5 registers for programs) then the programs run through the 5 steps and at each step the robots move and shoot, if you get hit your registers get locked (so you can't change parts of your program next time).
 
@FrankMittelbach ooh
 
all happens in a factory with running belts nad the robts can jump onto the belts and move this way on top of the programs .. half of the time people make mistakes in their program or do not anticipate what others do and get in their way so they then often end up totally in a different place that they thought
goal is to capture flags or fight an opposing team or both and you can vary the factory floar and the goals etc .. up to 8 players but we only ever play it up to 4
 
I've made datetime.sty obsolete and replaced it with the new improved datetime2.sty. (There were some issues that couldn't be fixed without breaking backward-compatibility so it had to have a new name.) The new package now has all the language/region dependent code in independently maintained modules (*.ldf files). There are, however, a lot of languages! So although the base package is available, the language support may take a while to finish.
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@PauloCereda I'm going to display my books at an exhibition tomorrow so I'll bring along the duck puppet to entertain any kids that happen to drop in (or possibly entertain their parents or maybe just random adults who are easily entertained).
 
8:14 PM
@NicolaTalbot awwwwww <3
Please take photos. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ooh, a selfie of my hand :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot duckie selfie. :)
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
8:32 PM
@DavidCarlisle Are you going to to the 'look for help' thing? If so, can I have a heads up before you commit: am working on ltunicode
 
8:47 PM
@NicolaTalbot Does this mean that \usepackage{datetime} won't be accepted any more? I'm not sure it's a good move.
 
yo'
@PauloCereda quackfie :)
 
@yo' <3
 
9:04 PM
@DavidCarlisle Have made the change I was on :-)
@DavidCarlisle, @FrankMittelbach Am running texlua build.lua ctan for LaTeX2e and will update DropBox including TDS-style files as requested by KB
 
@JosephWright maybe we should get a different place one day for those intermediate files not that dropbox :-)
 
@FrankMittelbach Maybe
 
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle but isn't David doing this doc changes right now?
 
@FrankMittelbach We could upload to TLContrib I guess, but not so convenient for people
@FrankMittelbach Good question :-)
 
@FrankMittelbach hive.latex3.org :)
 
9:09 PM
@FrankMittelbach I see he just has: will start again :-)
 
@PauloCereda this is for 2e
anyway, yes I have that domain ... doesn't mean there is a server behind it
 
@FrankMittelbach In the past I've bunged stuff like this just on my own webspace, but that's no easier
@FrankMittelbach Could readily be arranged :-)
 
@FrankMittelbach uh-oh
 
@FrankMittelbach One for the 'team meeting agenda' at TUG2015, I think (I'm guessing we are having a meeting of some sort)
 
@JosephWright it currently points to the l3 pages in the project.org
 
9:11 PM
@FrankMittelbach Yes, I know :-)
 
@JosephWright yes you would :-)
 
@FrankMittelbach I'll wait for @DavidCarlisle to pop up and say doc stuff is done
@FrankMittelbach Right, l3build is next on the list: have you seen the pull request about testing?
 
@JosephWright @FrankMittelbach build ctan failed because of aux file in tools directory;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm working on that right now: just deciding exactly what should be cleaned up
 
@JosephWright just running again in tools then will check that in
 
9:17 PM
@DavidCarlisle Could go for *.aux, *.toc, ... or more targeted <name>.aux, etc.
 
@JosephWright @FrankMittelbach I hadn't realised how many files in tools had my old manchester university address, at least they had an internet one not the reversed order JANET one (but it doesn't work anymore anyway;-0
 
@DavidCarlisle I take it you are updating
 
@JosephWright I have seen a thread but for some good reason I stayed very much away from opening it and many others ... may do so over Easter
 
@FrankMittelbach OK, I'll post a comment saying 'we are thinking about it'
 
@JosephWright just committed tools which is probably enough for a drop box release tonight to get updated unicode out, a few issues I'll take to team list before doing the other directories
 
9:21 PM
@DavidCarlisle OK
 
@JosephWright so I'm done for today
 
@DavidCarlisle Cool
@DavidCarlisle, @FrankMittelbach Will probably go for simple auxfile logic: removes anything 'awkward'
 
@JosephWright @FrankMittelbach you got mail:-)
@JosephWright simple sounds good
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes: expect commit in about 5 mins
@DavidCarlisle, @FrankMittelbach I see KB really wants MD5 sums: will work on it (pdfTeX can do those without manual intervention, just have to work out how the primitive works!)
@DavidCarlisle, @FrankMittelbach See Hans' latest e-mail on the LuaTeX list re. -8bit option for pdfTeX/XeTeX. May be one to think about.
 
9:37 PM
@Manuel You man of little faith!
 
@JosephWright can you send me pointer? I'm on some luatex lists but obviously not on the main one
 
> [-8-bit option] means that characters < 32 will be output as byte and not as ^^<letter> which is needed for proper round-trip usage and also makes files acceptable for other applications
 
@JosephWright and also > 127
 
@DavidCarlisle Just quoted Hans' message
 
@JosephWright I know:-)
@FrankMittelbach thread starting tug.org/pipermail/luatex/2015-March/005138.html
 
9:52 PM
@PauloCereda do you know this user? -> tex.stackexchange.com/users/69931/duckqueen :-)
 
@PaulGessler WOW
 
@egreg I don't follow… may be a result of little faith? :)
 
@JosephWright: how about adding some build info with the Unicode version? :) Maybe 7.0.0-1.0, that way you preserve the main thingy and add the debugging info right away. :)
 
@Manuel Weren't you waiting for some hat trick? ;-)
 
@PauloCereda I've done that :-)
 
9:57 PM
@PaulGessler @PauloCereda Sock puppet.
 
@PauloCereda Karl Berry wants MD5 sums
 
@egreg And you brought it. Truth is, I did have faith. Just that you were faster that I saw your answer was posted even before my comment.
 
@JosephWright Full MD5 sums? How about using SHA1 and use the first 10 digits? :)
 
@Manuel :)
 
@AlanMunn only in the presence of a lawyer. :)
 
yo'
10:13 PM
@egreg The fact that the font is in TL doesn't change the fact that without a MWE, the question is a bad one. Especially if the font plays a crucial role in it.
 
@yo' Sure.
 
@PauloCereda pdfTeX has \pdfmdfivesum :-)
 
@JosephWright But XeTeX hasn't. LuaTeX can of course emulate it.
 
@egreg Yes
@egreg For the case-in-hand I can live with pdfTeX-only
 
@JosephWright We could ask @PauloCereda to make a Lua wrapper to XeTeX so that shell-escape commands are intercepted by the Lua interpreter.
 
yo'
10:47 PM
@egreg We should as @Paulo to implement LuaXeLaTeX from scratch :D
 
11:01 PM
@yo' LuaXeTeX or “O lado escuro da lua”
 
@JosephWright I don't buy his argument at all but decided to let it drop:-0
 
yo'
@egreg O lawhat?
 
@yo' The dark side of the moon
 
yo'
@egreg ah ok
 
@egreg -- i know precious little italian, but that i could figure out. a nice term!
 
11:05 PM
@egreg @PauloCereda ^^^ look a 20th Century music reference from @egreg, must be a first
 
@barbarabeeton That's supposed to be Portuguese. ;-)
 
yo'
well, I gotta say good night, it's been long three days and I need some sleep
 
@egreg -- urk. yes, i guess italian would have "luna". (i know more portuguese than italian, actually, since there are lots of really good portuguese restaurants in this area. mostly the islands, but some mainland. it sure helps to know a few words to get along.)
@egreg -- i guess it demonstrates that brazilian portuguese isn't the same as the mainland or island variety.
 
@DavidCarlisle It was a reference to the Luna 1, of course. :P
Luna 3, actually.
 
@egreg you can't even fake a proper alibi
 
11:38 PM
@egreg I like the plan. :)
 
@JosephWright: You still around?
 
@DavidCarlisle Agreed, can't wait to see @egreg in the TUG conference wearing his DSOTM T-shirt. :)
 
I have a table that has uses siunitx to set the column entries...
 
@egreg Perfect Portuguese! :)
 
...some are real/decimal, for which I use table-format = X.Y.
However, I have a single column that has only integer values. How do I specify such an S-type column?
 
11:41 PM
@PauloCereda I have an Abel T-shirt, is it good as well?
 
@egreg :)
 
@Werner If you will use the opposition...
 
@DavidCarlisle ...oh no... dcolumn?
I guess that's your initial instead of decimal.
 
@Werner D.{}{4.0} :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle: Seems like the "more intuitive" S[table-format = 4, zero-decimal-to-integer] does the trick... :)
 
11:55 PM
@Werner if you say so;-)
 

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