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8:00 PM
 
@Sebastiano is that inline math, not display?
 
@DavidCarlisle \begin{equation}
\int_{\Gamma(A,B)} \overline F\cdot d\overline r=\int_{\Gamma(A,B)} F_x\xyz dx+F_y\xyz dy+F_z \xyz dz
\end{equation}. This is my code
 
@DavidCarlisle whoa. Well I once had a beard like that. Started working, had to cut it
 
@Sebastiano oh OK, subscript looks a bit higher than normal but it's probably the times setting. as it's an upright integral you might like \int\limits_{...} or even \int\limits_{\mathclap{...}} (from mathtools package) the last one hides the width completely so it would over-print anything close, but probably OK there
 
8:08 PM
@PauloCereda -- seems you don't know what short shorts are ... the ones on egreg are longer than bermudas. the ones on will are bermuda length. next shorter would be jamaicas. and two or three stages above that would begin to be short shorts.
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't like \int\limits_{...} :(
 
@Sebastiano so that is presumably with \limits but not with \mathclap
 
@barbarabeeton What a culture on shorts!
 
@Sebastiano if you want it in the subscript position (actually I wouldn't if you only have a low expression on an upright integral) use \int_{\mathllap{...} but I think the subscript will look very close to the F
@Sebastiano yes can see it was that from the output:-)
 
8:17 PM
LaTeX Warning: `h' float specifier changed to `ht'.

! Undefined control sequence.
l.655 \[\int\mathllap
_{\Gamma(A,B)} \overline F\cdot d\overline r=\int\limit...
 
@Sebastiano (a) never use [h] (b) as I said above \math_lap commands are from mathtools package
 
@DavidCarlisle Do you need to put mathtools?
 
@Sebastiano yes
@Sebastiano also the argument of mathlap (math overlap) is the expression not the _ so as I wrote above \int_{\mathllap{..}}
 
! LaTeX Error: Unknown option `T1' for package `amsmath'.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
...

l.90 \ProcessOptions\par

I have wrong wait
 
@Sebastiano yes why did you think amsmath had a T1 option?
 
8:21 PM
LaTeX Warning: `h' float specifier changed to `ht'.

! Missing { inserted.
<to be read again>
}
l.655 \[\int\mathllap_
{\Gamma(A,B)} \overline F\cdot d\overline r=\int\limit...

?
 
@Sebastiano as I said above
4 mins ago, by David Carlisle
@Sebastiano (a) never use [h] (b) as I said above \math_lap commands are from mathtools package
3 mins ago, by David Carlisle
@Sebastiano also the argument of mathlap (math overlap) is the expression not the _ so as I wrote above \int_{\mathllap{..}}
 
@DavidCarlisle I not undestand How do i write?
 
@Sebastiano skip all the english bits just look at the code. \int_{\mathllap{x}} is not \int\mathllap_{x}
 
@PauloCereda Fauntleroy Riemann? ;-)
 
@Sebastiano neither error you posted was due to your preamble.
@Sebastiano LaTeX Warning: 'h' float specifier changed to ht'. ` means you have \begin{figure}[h] which is always wrong
 
8:26 PM
infact I have a problem with my figures \begin{figure}[h]
\centering
\includegraphics[width=.6\linewidth]{coordcil.pdf}
\vspace{-.5cm}
\caption{Coordinate cilindriche.}
\label{fig:subim6}
\end{figure}
 
@Sebastiano not surprising if you use [h] as that mostly ensures they all go to the end of the document.
 
againLaTeX Warning: `h' float specifier changed to `ht'.

! Missing { inserted.
<to be read again>
\let
l.655 \[\int_\mathllap
{\Gamma(A,B)} \overline F\cdot d\overline r=\int_\math...
\end{figure}
LaTeX Warning: Reference `ese1.3' on page 18 undefined on input line 618.

<Pictures/coordcil.pdf, id=500, 660.54782pt x 566.59679pt>
<use Pictures/coordcil.pdf>
! Missing { inserted.
<to be read again>
\let
l.655 \[\int_\mathllap
{\Gamma(A,B)} \overline F\cdot d\overline r=\int_\math...
 
\int_\mathllap is not what I wrote. I don't know how often I can say the same thing.
@Sebastiano latex subscripts go in {...}
 
@DavidCarlisle sorry very much
@DavidCarlisle [\int_{\mathllap\Gamma(A,B)} \overline F\cdot d\overline r=\int_{\mathllap\Gamma(A,B)} F_x\xyz dx+F_y\xyz dy+F_z \xyz dz]
 
@Sebastiano ouch:-)
 
8:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle In two minutes I'm always in the car and my battery is low.
 
@Sebastiano oh for zzz sake! mathllap is a macro and macro arguments go in {}
3
 
If I close the conversation is because the battery is discharged and I apologize for it before. Leave me a message of what I'll have to do
- meanwhile, I greet you and everyone
 
@Sebastiano I have already posted what you have to do multiple times, you just need to do that not something else.
2
 
@TeXnician @ChristianHupfer submitted the new version of typoaid to ctan. Ugly code, pretty functionalities :)
@DavidCarlisle now it's time to try and do that emacs customization.
wish me luck
 
@Moriambar That's TeX :D (and explicitly expl3 )
 
8:42 PM
@ChristianHupfer my code is uglier, and needs to be straightened up. I received suggestions about it, but I couldn't make it work in the new release, so I kind of traded off
also: I found Tufte's book that I was after
 
@Sebastiano You have three choices, in my opinion. Number 2 is what I'd prefer, since there's no need to mention A and B.
 
@Moriambar Tufte... well...
 
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[italian]{babel}

\usepackage[fleqn]{amsmath}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\usepackage{newtxtext,newtxmath}

\DeclareMathOperator{\asse}{asse}
\newcommand{\diff}{\mathop{}\!d}

\begin{document}

Sia $\Gamma$ una curva regolare congiungente due punti $A$~e~$B$,
supponiamo che il verso vada da $A$~a~$B$ ed indichiamo con
$r_A=d(A,\asse z)$ e con $r_B=d(B,\asse z)$. Allora:
\begin{equation}
\int_{\Gamma(A,B)} \bar{F}\cdot\diff r=
 
@ChristianHupfer yes…?
 
@Sebastiano It's not at all clear why vectors are denoted sometimes with a bar and sometimes with boldface.
 
8:46 PM
@Moriambar You mean the tufte-book class?
 
@egreg with the sloppy integral yes I'd use 2, with an upright integral I think the limits position (and mathclap) is OK as well.
 
@ChristianHupfer no, I mean visual display of quantitative information E. Tufte's book
(one of them)
 
@Moriambar Ah...
 
@DavidCarlisle I see no real difference between upright and sloped
 
@DavidCarlisle The actual question is why to complicate our lives with upright integral...
 
8:50 PM
@CarLaTeX well the OP spent a month getting mathtime fonts set up so a bit late to worry about that:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
@DavidCarlisle @CarLaTeX: In my opinion it is too much focusing on the look and too less on the content ...
 
@ChristianHupfer you got it!
 
Apr 16 at 20:29, by David Carlisle
@Sebastiano my advice would be to use computer modern, and concentrate more on the questions than the font.
 
@Sebastiano I'd reject tricky solutions such as
 
8:52 PM
@DavidCarlisle Ah, you used your time machine and travelled back in time to post that :D
 
\begin{equation}
\int_{\Gamma\mathrlap{(A,B)}\vphantom{\bigg|}} \bar{F}\cdot\diff r=
\int_{\Gamma\mathrlap{(A,B)}\vphantom{\bigg|}} F_x(x,y,z)\diff x+F_y(x,y,z)\diff y+F_z(x,y,z)\diff z
\end{equation}
 
@DavidCarlisle I still do not understand how to use the "snippet" found in the answers about customizing emacs
 
@Moriambar I suppose I could try it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle the problem is that I actually feel helpless. Bad vim memories starting to come up :-P
 
@Moriambar just watch the snooker
 
9:02 PM
@DavidCarlisle Well I finished a bit ago, if it's still on, well, I'll skip it now
 
9:39 PM
@TorbjørnT.: Only a few to go.... unfortunately you're rep-capped already :-(
 
@ChristianHupfer Yep. Will cross the line tomorrow.
 
@TorbjørnT. Sure!
 
@TorbjørnT. ooh you should do it today!
 
@DavidCarlisle Rep capped, so a bit harder to get the 25 points needed.
 
@DavidCarlisle You could ask a question, @TorbjørnT. answers it .... 15 rep ... so could do @egreg ;-) another 15 rep
 
9:51 PM
@TorbjørnT. 3 or 4 hundred in a day shouldn't be that hard for a special occasion!
 
@TorbjørnT. Probably you'll get the 25 points just after 00:00 UTC. Too bad, I'll be sleeping.
 
@egreg So will I.
 
 
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cfr
11:34 PM
@JosephWright Wider use case:
\RequirePackage{svn-prov}
\ProvidesFileSVN{$Id: tikzlibrarycfrexternal.code.tex 6276 2017-04-25 02:05:44Z $}
\RequirePackage{currfile,etoolbox,xparse}
\usetikzlibrary{external}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\tl_new:N \g_enext_figurename_tl
\cs_new_protected_nopar:Nn \enext_settofilename:
{% tries to set the base figure name automatically, but will fail with \file_input rather than \input, for example
  \enext_tikzsetfigurename:x { \currfilebase- }
}
\cs_new_protected_nopar:Nn \enext_tikzsetfigurename:n
{
  \tikzsetfigurename { #1 }
^^ is evolved from an answer to a question somewhere. Basically, it tries to name externalised images more sensibly. By default, the insertion of a new tikzpicture at the beginning of a document triggers compilation of all pictures in the document, even if their code isn't changed. It is also quite hard to figure out which externalised image is which. The library uses file names to name the images, falling back to something else if a picture is specified inline. It all works fine ...
... provided nothing is ever input with \file_input rather than \input. At least, it works fine so far. But I have code which uses \file_input and then everything goes wrong unless there's another \input before the next picture. I need to get the equivalent of \currfilebase and feed it to the naming mechanism. I'm not entirely certain exactly why I get the errors I do, but even if it compiled, it wouldn't do what it's meant to because \currfilebase doesn't track \file_input.
^^ It needs standalone, too.
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure. Is it?
@DavidCarlisle I don't want the path. I just want the base name. I wondered if there was a safe way of extracting it from `\g_file_current_name_tl`. However, that gives me very strange results which are not even related to the correct file name, so is clearly hopeless. Could I safely extract the base name from `\l__file_internal_name_tl`? That does get the right file, at least. Although you said I shouldn't use it ....
`
@JosephWright That is, it is useful to name externalised TikZ pictures after the files containing the code for them, without having to explicitly set the externalised file name each time. This is easy with \input and currfile. But it gets all screwed up with \file_input.
 
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