@AlanMunn You're right. But there should be a better start which is not full of advice you do not need for your first package (something more encouraging)...
@Moriambar I agree that it is not user-friendly (not for the end-user) ;)
@Moriambar I guess those are independent issues. The clsguide is simply designed to tell you the minimal stuff that should go into a package, and the various package and class management commands that are available. Where it goes is an issue of the distribution and how to define commands is understanding TeX and LaTeX more generally. So I think you're asking too much of one document.
@Moriambar started well: pointing out that [ht] restricts latex from trying other solutions, but I think suggesting to tb isn't as helpful as it could be as that is just as restrictive
@TeXnician I guess people don't feel the need. If you know enough to write a class or a package, you should be able to figure out things from clsguide. But it's true that it could be helpful to have such a document.
@TeXnician to answer you… yes and no. In the sense that I don't know where to put it in order to be able to use \usepackage{mypackage}. So I have not tested, and I don't know what can change in doing the things I do in a package
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@ChristianHupfer short summary: yes but I find the process and its guides quite complicated (please read: probably I'm not that skilled in TeX to be able to do so)
@Moriambar I wouldn't bother with the requiring latex2e bit these days, that was just to give an error in latex2.09 which isn't an issue now. But also that is not rellated to it being a package, you could put that in the .tex file that you input.
@ChristianHupfer nope, I simply tipeout some font-specific things. I hope, when I get something going, to expand it: @TeXnician expressed interest in having it scanning fonts throughout the system
@ChristianHupfer I see. It all started in order to get the right column width for a book. Then making my examples to bring to the lecture, I had to change fonts and kept having to type the same things and… you know…
@ChristianHupfer yes I mean: you select a font or two and check whether the current column suits it. It may be more complicated (i.e. calculating the mean number of char per line given the textwidth, or the "expected" textwidth range)
@ChristianHupfer it's standard and can be used to determine the measure, for example. With the ex-height one can "predict" the need for extra baselineskip
@ChristianHupfer no, the total of the box containing all of the characters
@ChristianHupfer so yes, but it's written differently :)
@AlanMunn So the 'result' of both keys is different if keyA is used before keyB is applied? Can't you store some boolean flag whether keyA was used before keyB or vice versa?
@ChristianHupfer Yes, that's the right description. But I think I'm missing something basic in that I shouldn't have to check the order in which the keys are used.
@AlanMunn Apart from the implementation with keys, isn't this a general problem of calling ('executing') \macroA before \macroB? I.e. \macroA leaves the system in State A which is evaluated by \macroB, otherwise the order wouldn't matter
@ChristianHupfer Yes, but I think there must be a way to structure the keys such that independent of the order in the list, keyA gets executed before keyB.
@ChristianHupfer no problem. More important things to do. I reached a good point now, I can print things for different fonts. I don't like how I do it, but what in my programmer's mind has to be done I'm not sure can be done via TeX/LaTeX primitives (it's not the result I'm after, but the way to achieve it). But on my silly package I'll call it a day
@ChristianHupfer @DavidCarlisle I still have the Dark One book going, maybe with that I'll be able to make my package perfect :P
@ChristianHupfer I was writing that you should take them from him… but then got inexplicably scared by @egreg's dark powers. I think that he will \expandafter something that I will grow to regret
@ChristianHupfer well the stories are part of the setting of a dystopian futuristic RPG of my best friend; the novel is something more or less about… wel it's complicated, we'll see when it's all out, now it's in. Ooh, I also wrote a philosophy book (which I should review and print, but I keep procrastinating)
@egreg I have the title already. The subject is nonexpandable
@AlanMunn Yes it isn't really easy to understand -- I'm not sure how much I would understand if I didn't know the xkeyval conzept. Btw: I didn't follow the discussion so I don't know if you really need pgfkeys -- I normally prefer the l3keys-module from expl3, imho easier to understand.
@ChristianHupfer If only I could procrastinate my job and keep on LaTeX working… I find myself doing the things the other way around, which is not good!
@UlrikeFischer The basic problem I have is that I want to set keyA={foo} which calculates the length of foo and then keyB uses that length to set another key's value. If I call keyA before keyB, it works, but intuitively I would like them to be order independent.
Hi, I am new to `\usepackage{floatrow}` I used `\usepackage{sidecap}` before with `\usepackage[]{caption}[2015/09/17] \captionsetup[figure]{labelfont=bf, format=plain, justification=justified}` Should I leave the `\usepackage[]{caption}` part in the document after switching to floatrow, or can floatrow mag FIGURE 2: bold itself?
@Moriambar Yes, I know/understand your reasoning. I am very active this week because there's Easter Break at school, in a few days, I've to teach again, so not much time for me to procrastinate...
@ChristianHupfer the downside of my job (regarding any computer related activity) is that I am at the pc screen for the whole time, so sometimes I don't want to see the damn thing when I get home
@ChristianHupfer My ultraTeXmania will come to an end when I won't bear to be at the computer anymore, and I will go back to read some books. We'll see…
