@StefanKottwitz Doing another tagging session in LC. I found this strange one latex-community.org/forum/… but I can't find the post where this »tag« belongs to…
@Herbert sorry you are getting error accessing the file. My ISP have some IP's denied. is your computer in some region of Russia by any chance? I can login to my ISP cpanel and remove these if so.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Let's take a look at the last cricket results:
- India A 135/10 & 267/6 * v Australia A 349/10
- England 124/2 & 281/10 * v Australia 136/10 & 265/10
- Bangladesh 246/8 * v South Africa
- Sri Lanka A Emerging Players 115/10 & 147/3 * v South Africa Emerging Players 299/10
- England Under-19s 247/10 & 119/6 v Unicorns 128/8 & 134/10 *
- Durham 222/10 * v Surrey 271/7
- Leicestershire 314/10 * v Gloucestershire 315/6
- Somerset 305/7 v Worcestershire 249/10 *
@GonzaloMedina I think you have to use \pdfsavepos (or wrapper of that such as \tikzmark) then measure the length you need and draw in teh dots on the next run
@clemens Oh, tagging is great! I will check that tag in the database. Feel feee to PM me any strange tag which should be removed. Tagging is of great value, it's a hard work also for people with quick eyes to do it for past topics, but of very great value.
@clemens I have ideas for programming further nice features based on tags (better search, combining/filtering, tag feed, statistics, ..., inter-links between websites for related tags) where I'll be even more motivated with good tagging :-)
@clemens Perhaps I manage to make a list view "Untagged questions" for us moderators for fixing when we got time
@StefanKottwitz I have a few suggestions I'd find useful for the current system: disallowing blanks in tags would be helpful (sometimes we have whole sentences as tags) also converting tags to all-lowercase would help in avoiding duplicate tags. And maybe also make the tag suggestion field case insensitive so people see that tags already exist even if they spell them differently
@StefanKottwitz that would probably be a nice thing to have :)
@clemens Yes, lowercasing would fix a lot of possible duplicates, I will think about it (though I like LyX and TikZ and such casing, but unique tags are more important than cosmetics but dupes)
@egreg and @DavidCarlisle @HeikoOberdiek Does anyone of you feel like providing an answer, even if it's negative, giving some reasons why it wouldn't be possible within TeX, or do you think I should delete the question?
@egreg .. Yes, somehow. Scientists assume that this tower isn't natural but piled up by a local Celtic tribe about 2500 years ago. We've got many places where they've carved vessels in rocks and sacrified animals :-( (and TeX fundamentalists ;-))
@egreg Should be \int_set_eq:NN \suppressfontnotfounderror \c_one but I see your point :-) (I need to check which engine prefix that primitive should have: I have it down as \luatex_ but am not 100% sure)
@egreg Oh, and it should be \cs_new_protected_nopar:Npn :-)
@JosephWright documentation needs some more work but the split build files seem to work, not sure about ltluatex.sty currently it has full code but once ltluatex.def is in format probably it would be better if it just tested if (say) \newluattribute is defined and then conditionally input ltluatex.def (if we haven't just inlined that into latex.ltx...) not sure really..
@egreg Yes: the question is then where it was introduced, so I can name it properly. We've recently added \utex_... for things that are XeTeX/LuaTeX 'at the same time' (ish)
@JosephWright but especially if we then apply pressure on the engines to converge eg renaming _engine_mathchar to Umathcar or adding \mdfivesum etc it just means the prefixes record irrelevant historical accidents
@JosephWright yes I know they are the names, and changing the existing ones not really worth it, doesn't mean I shouldn't comment on new(ish) ones though:-)
@JosephWright Not convinced: if the same primitive is in 3 of the 5 engines we support why assume the one that historically was first had better documentation?
@DavidCarlisle Remember a lot of my job on the team is essentially trying to get something finalised out of all the good ideas you/Chris/Frank have had over the years
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle @egreg: Is there a \meaning like macro that does stop after one stage of expansion and typesets pretty, i.e. something like \nicemeaning\thesection -> \arabic{section}?
@ChristianHupfer They should define it as \arabic{section}, but probably token memory considerations made somebody prefer a two token replacement text \@arabic\c@section to a ten token one.
@DavidCarlisle @egreg, I see 2 tokens for \@arabic \c@section, but maybe I am stupid: \expandafter\@arabic\csname \c@section\endcsname` has only 5 tokens? \c@section expands to some \count... What am I missing here?
@ChristianHupfer yes but we were counting \arabic { s e c t i o n }
@ChristianHupfer If you went \renewcommand\thesection{\arabic{section}} it doesn't matter what the definition of \arabic is each letter of section is stored as a token
@ChristianHupfer remember tex's a macro processor the replacement text of a macro is not processed at all at the time of the definition, it's just stored as is.
@ChristianHupfer If you look in the latex sources you'll find that in almost all cases things that could be written as \foo{\bar} are written as \foo\bar which makes things harder to read really but saves two tokens and we spent some weeks removing all such unneeded braces and saved several hundred bytes....
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I noticed that a lot ... I have grown accustomed to that, but personally, I don't use that style. I can clearly see the reason now that more than 20 years ago saving memory was really important.
@ChristianHupfer it wasn't too good if latex ran out of memory before you got to \begin{document} which it would do with the first release of latex2e if you did \documentclass{article}\usepackage{amsmath}\begin{document} with emtex...
@DavidCarlisle: I remember emtex somehow, unless I am confused. It come on a bunch of floppy disks and took a while to build the format? In 1997, my first latex
@DavidCarlisle :D I used it on Windows 3.1 (:D :D), having a 486 CPU and 20 MB Ram and a 500 MB hard disk. I remember a strange previewer YAP (Yet another previewer). I think, it was in my first year at university then
@PauloCereda: Yes, I have to admit it: I have a dark past -- I used MS Windoze once -- I was young and needed the money ;-)
@barbarabeeton, @DavidCarlisle, @Jubobs, @UlrikeFischer, @PaulGessler, @egreg, @yo', @StefanKottwitz, @BrunoLeFloch, @HenriMenke, @FrankMittelbach, @HeikoOberdiek, @wipet, @ArthurReutenauer, @WillRobertson, @MartinSchröder, @Herbert and @JosephWright: THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY VERY MUCH! <3
