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10:01 PM
@MarioS.E. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a toy car: lmgtfy.com?q=what+is+good+about+emacs
 
Hahahahahhaa, I had never seen that before!!
 
@MarioS.E. I remember EMACS was an acronym (Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping), today it may perhaps be EGACS :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I have to say I kept this: stackoverflow.com/a/1659719
 
@MarioS.E. some question and answer sites ban it as being offensive to the OP, but I thought you'd be able to cope:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle It's amazing!
 
10:04 PM
@MarioS.E. The thing is M-x butterfly is now a standard part of the emacs distribution.
 
@DavidCarlisle So, OK, there is vim and there is emac. Are these like Ferrari and Lamborghini or like lamborghini and BMW?
oh, and by the way, what does OP stand for?
 
@MarioS.E. I have use emacs almost every day for the last 25 years or so and I've used vim twice. So I may not be the best person to give a totally unbiased review of the two systems.
 
@DavidCarlisle I mean, are these two the top ones?
@DavidCarlisle Assuming Emacs is the non plus ultra... who would definitely be the second best?
 
Hello
 
Does anyone here use TeXmacs for writing up something quickly first and then editing it as latex?
 
@MarioS.E. Beware, David is biased. From his point of view certainly emacs is the Porsche 911, and vim the VW Beetle.
 
@Szabolcs I tried TeXmacs a long time ago, it looked great, but there doesn't seem to be much development
 
@MarioS.E. Select one <grin>: OP - Definition by AcronymFinder
 
@StefanKottwitz I find LaTeX much too slow and cumbersome for writing notes, but the end product is going to be LaTeX anyway. I found TeXmacs, and it looks like something I can use for notes. But its LaTeX export is a bit weird at times, e.g. instead of $f(x)$ it produces $f ( x)$. I can't send a manuscript to a collaborator like that, and I just don't see a real reason why it has to do that (when otherwise it produces pretty decent latex)
 
10:13 PM
@Speravir Yeah, I was looking forward for something more poetic, like in latin or something
 
@MarioS.E. sorry:-)
 
So, @DavidCarlisle, howcome EMAC is so cool and I have never heard of it? ... and I'm the coolest guy in the universe
 
maybe I should look at LyX instead to combine quick typing, semi-wysiwyg and proper LaTeX output ...
 
@Szabolcs I'd keep TeXnicCenter and have lots of templates for any occasion :)
 
10:29 PM
@MarioS.E. Have you heard of linux or gcc or GNU? emacs was the start of the GNU project.
 
@DavidCarlisle Hahahahahaha, of course I have! What really impresses me is that usually poor countries use software libre (obvious reasons). I studied my bachellor's in Costa Rica, and my professors never said anything about it...
@DavidCarlisle You know, we used to have the free version of everything: windows/ubuntu, matlab/scilab, notepad/notepad++, Intel 8086/ CPUCR x86,
...but I never came across EMAC or vim...
so, what intrigues me: "Is it me, master?" or have these editor had too little attention?
 
@MarioS.E. It's "Emacs"
 
those were the programs we used
 
@MarioS.E. emacs is like tex, it offers lots of opportunities for avoiding doing what your professors intend you to be doing so it's not surprising that these days people are initially directed to editors with a less steep learning curve. back in 1985/6 on unix like systems there was really only two choices emacs or vi (on which vim is based). So vi and emacs users have a long standing argument about which is the better system. there is no possibility of the argument ending, even though emacs is..
..better
 
10:44 PM
"it offers lots of opportunities for avoiding doing what your professors intend you to be doing" <-- you hit the nail on the head
So no TeXmacs users here? Actually two minor versions came out since the beginning of the year so I had the impression it's not abandoned.
 
@MarioS.E. may be understand this guy
 
I assume TeXmacs is off topic on the main site, right? (Since it's not really TeX)
 

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