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7:09 AM
@Sanchez What did you do with your life after you finished high school?
 
@Ethan, I go to college, lol
 
@Sanchez How did you know which collages to send applications to?
 
there weren't many choices.
Are you applying for colleges?
 
I will be soon
 
Are you a senior now/
 
7:11 AM
No, im a jr
 
Ah I see.
Did you go to ucla math circle eventually?
 
How would that help?
Im not sure if there teaching anything I might be interested in
 
Going there gives you a chance to see some professors.
 
Couldn't I just unoffically audit any class at ucla?
 
Also, if you want to 1. talk to prof 2. audit class at ucla etc., it's a good opportunity to ask at math circle once you know some people there.
Also you can meet some other young people who are interested in math
 
7:14 AM
Oh, do you think they would be offended if I was to just show up with out going through there whole registry process, it looks very complicatet
 
@Ethan are you at UCLA?
 
@Ethan, show up once and see what happens.
 
I was talking to an undegrad there and he suggested waiting in on one of his classes
I don't wana embarrass myself though
 
@Ethan, don't worry so much. Many professors are delighted that you go talk to them.
@robjohn, I think he's in that area.
 
@Sanchez What should I ask them?
 
7:17 AM
@Sanchez It seemed so from the conversation :-)
@Sanchez I am often on campus (since I work there)
 
@robjohn You work at ucla?
 
@Ethan yes
 
@robjohn I wana meet you in person :d
lol
 
@Ethan, well, I think you need some kind of guidance at this point. You can say that you are interested in number theory, read a few basic books on the subject, played around some formulas and get some results (that you wrote up I suppose), then you can ask where I can go next, what I should read, whether these results are interesting etc. Just say things politely and you would be fine.
 
@Sanchez Thanks for the advice
 
7:20 AM
@Ethan I taught math there for a couple of years about 25 years ago. Then I went to work for Apple for 8 years, then I came back to write software for the Philosophy dept.
 
Oh, philosophy! I thought you are associated to math dept :P
 
@robjohn I go to ucla every other sunday for some Ap readiness thing for my chemistry class
 
@Ethan In Young Hall (Chemistry)?
 
@robjohn I think thats where it was the first time
Franz hall the second time
@Sanchez How did you decide which collages to apply to? I have representatives and stuff coming from collages to my school, and I don't know what to attend to, and what not to.
 
@Ethan Ah, I taught Calc to a class of 200 in a classroom in Franz
 
7:24 AM
College @Ethan
and it's been too long, I'm not the right person to ask on this.
 
@Ethan teaching big classes is less personal. Small classes are better for the student.
 
@robjohn If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
 
@Ethan one usually gets out of grad school around 25 (assumig 4 undergrad and 4 grad)+ 25 years and a few...
 
Oh
If your economically disadvantaged can you get aid in paying for college?
 
@Ethan There are lots of sources for financial aid. If you are in high school, one of the counselors should be able to look something up.
 
7:33 AM
Thanks
 
I am his son!
 
lol
 
(removed)
 
To personal
I take it back
I gues
 
;-)
 
7:35 AM
@skullpatrol you need to color it...
$\color{#A0A0A0}{\mathsf{(removed)}}$
 
lol
 
$\color{#C0C0C0}{\mathsf{Too late ;-)}}$
 
that's close
 
$\color{#A0A0A0}{\mathsf{(removed)}}$
$\color{#A0A0A0}{(removed)}$
$\color{#A0A0A0}{\text{(removed)}}$
 
@Sanchez without MathJax installed, that looks ridiculous
 
7:39 AM
haha
 
lol
 
$\color{#A0A0A0}{\mathbf{(removed)}}$
 
$\color{#A0A0A0}{\mathsf{(removed)}}$ is what those who don't have MathJax installed see
 
$\Huge\text{icic}$
 
$\color{#8080FF}{\Huge\text{icicle}}$
 
8:18 AM
Should my comment her be an answer?
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Q: Find $a, b, c, d \in \mathbb{Z}$ such that $2^a=3^b5^c+7^d$

D3r0X4Solve $2^a=3^b5^c+7^d$ over the positive integer I know $a$ is odd because: $(-1)^a \equiv2^a = 3^b5^c+7^d \equiv1 \ (mod\ 3)$

Or are they asking for a general solution?
 
8:34 AM
@BenW. The odor seems to suggest different things 8-).
 
8:52 AM
Yo @Novice wazzup?
 
@skullpatrol Hey man.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Hey wazzup?
 
nuttin
 
9:51 AM
Guys, fast: is it possible to have a three-digit number such that the number is exactly 11 times the sum of its digits.
I say that it's not, and I have an algebraic solution, but I'm not sure.
 
Let's see your solution.
 
10:06 AM
198 is the only one.
 
user19161
11:01 AM
I am now dodgerblue.
 
hi...
 
11:27 AM
@user58512 Too late :-)
 
11:47 AM
Thirsty.
 
@JacobBlack The black looked pretty sexy.
 
Given Data :

Normal Distribution function

P(x≤−1)=P(y≥2)

x : mean= 1 variance= 4

y : mean= -1 variance= to be found..?.

Ans: 9

How to solve..?
got the solution... thanks any way
 
user19161
12:23 PM
@Novice Haha, well, there are no sexy colours, only sexy people.
 
user19161
So "latex" gets 1 star and "NUTS" gets 2 stars! Another free star day!
 
user19161
@JonasTeuwen Drink water.
 
@robjohn, great!!
someone wrote good things to my question but its not what I wanted at all, should I accept it and re-ask my question? stressing that I want as basic a proof as possible
 
1:09 PM
@user58512 Since we are talking about one of the toughest known problems in maths, maybe there is no elementary proof possible?
 
@OldJohn, it's beginner level analytic number theory
@OldJohn, I'm only asking about the critial strip, not the critical line
 
The Riemann Hypothesis is certainly not begiiner level anything
@user58512 if you know it is beginner level stuff, then why can't you find a solution in a beginner level ANT book?
 
@OldJohn, I think you misread my question: I have got the zeta function defined as sum 1/n^s for real s > 1 and the Euler product shows this has no zeros. Then analytically continued to re s > 0 by partial summation, and then did the functional equation using fourier analysis, so that proves that the only nontrivial zeros are in 0 < re s <= 1
@OldJohn, all I want is to show there are infinitely many zeros
 
@user58512 And you are certain that this is a begiiner-level ANT problem how exactly?
 
there are some vague things like "if it has finitely many zeros then it would have polynomial growth" which could prove it
its a just trivial thing, the reason I don't see it because I don't know complex analysis beyond very novice level
 
1:15 PM
@OldJohn hello
 
Hi @BenjaLim
how's it hanging?
 
@OldJohn hi.
@OldJohn not bad. Today we just had a chinese new year dinner. I will put them on facebook!
 
@BenjaLim Great! - They are celebrating that in Manchester Chinatown, but I can't really spare the time to go
 
@OldJohn, let me explain it this way
@OldJohn, you know there are infinitely many non-trivial zeros of zeta?
 
yes, of course
 
1:17 PM
so I'm just asking why
I mean everyone knows this, it's a basic fact
 
I, along with two of my friends, have made potentially an excellent discovery; I just need someone to write a program and help me out check if it is true.
 
@Novice Will I get to share the resulting Nobel prize (or Field Medal or Turing Award or anything)?
 
@user58512 I think there is a proof in Bateman and Diamond "ANT"
 
@OrangeHarvester I don't know... it's not so great.
 
@Novice :P I was joking.
 
1:19 PM
@JacobBlack Did you have your chinese new year dinner?
@OldJohn Go and have a look at the festivities
 
@OldJohn, thanks, but my library doesn't have this one
 
user19161
Just answered several lhf...
 
@JacobBlack lhf?
 
@BenjaLim Might get a chance tomorrow - but there is snow forecast, so I might not make it this year :(
 
user19161
@BenjaLim Low hanging fruit!
 
1:21 PM
@OldJohn You have been in the past?
@JacobBlack Did you have a reunion dinner?
 
But here's our hypothesis: There is only one three-digit number $N$ in base $b$ such that the sum of its digits is $\frac{N}{b + 1}$.
 
@BenjaLim yep - several years ago
 
user19161
@BenjaLim Just a normal dinner. I am in no mood to celebrate, and I only live with my mum.
 
@JacobBlack No hotpot?
 
user19161
@BenjaLim Nope.
 
1:21 PM
@JacobBlack WTF you're not of chinese descent
 
user19161
@BenjaLim Well, I am not of this world.
 
@Orange we could make it wider.
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But I must confirm if it is true, to start with.
 
user19161
@benja It's OK, no need to remove all these harmless things. Just calm down.
 
And you know how "good" I am at programming. :-P
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@JacobBlack IJK.
 
1:23 PM
@OldJohn, your comment doesn't make sense. You have the same misunderstanding as this Jp Mcarthy guy
the question isn't about RH
 
@user58512 looks like you are going to have to learn some complex analysis - the proof I have just seen uses Hadamard's theorem from Comp.Anal.
 
user19161
Three circles?
 
@user58512 My comment makes perfect sense if you read it properly
 
@Novice Learn up something. Programming is a nice skill to have and learning it in starting can be much like playing video games. :P Look up MIT's course on programming with python 6.00. All material is available only including video lectures, so cool.
 
I was just hoping a mod will delete Jps terrible comment
 
1:25 PM
Its not so terrible. Its not like he named you after a particular celestial body.
 
user19161
Can anyone tell me why people are so crazy about MIT OCW?
 
@JacobBlack Come on celebrate the year of the snake.
 
I only celebrate the year of the horse!
 
@JacobBlack Why the non-existence of hotpot?
 
user19161
@BenjaLim Well, I don't follow traditions. I am not of this world.
 
1:27 PM
@JacobBlack And you scold me for being ashamed of my race?
 
user19161
@BenjaLim There is a difference.
 
@JacobBlack Nggak ada bedanya.
 
But you are in this world.
 
user19161
I am in this world, but not of it.
 
Time for food - back later
 
1:28 PM
@BenjaLim He is not ashamed. He just does not celebrate. However proud I am to be an Indian, if I started celebrating all the festivals here, I would be literally dead.
 
user19161
There is a difference.
 
@JacobBlack Celebrating might make things better no?
 
@JacobBlack, is there no proof easier than 3 circles. That gives a stronger result than I need
 
@JacobBlack Kenapa kau marah saya?
 
user19161
@OrangeHarvester I rather celebrate other things, like my love for ABC.
 
user19161
1:29 PM
@user58512 I don't know, I am only a banana.
 
@JacobBlack Diharapkan bahwa kau mejawab soalan saya.
 
user19161
Why did someone flag my above line?
 
@JacobBlack Veuillez vous répondre à ma question.
 
user19161
@user Did you flag me just now?
 
BenjaLim probably did it since he has done it to me.
Not that I care.
 
1:33 PM
They flagged banana? Really guys?
 
user19161
Now someone flagged my "I am not of this world".
 
@JacobBlack, I consider that rude
 
@BenjaLim Excuse me?
 
@skullpatrol Where's the proof that I allegedly flagged your posts?
 
user19161
@user58512 So you flagged my two lines?
 
1:34 PM
@user58512 Wait, banana is rude? or not of this world is rude? How the hell is that rude?
 
You did it... see removing posts proves you are feeling guilty.
 
user19161
So today someone flagged my "I am only a banana" and "I am not of this world". Wow.
 
user19161
Really, wow.
 
$\huge{\text{WOW}}$
 
@anon Hey.
 
1:37 PM
So... I was suspended for "skullpatol against the world"
 
user19161
@user58512 I will never talk to you again.
 
user19161
I treat you as a friend but you do this to me.
 
Me neither.
 
Me too
 
@anon Hmmm not sure if Alex Youcis' answer on main answers my queries...
 
user19161
1:37 PM
My whole life, I try to be kind to people, but people keep abusing me.
 
@skullpatrol I guess user might have flagged it too, considering how it flagged "not of this world".
 
Shhh...
the cops are here
 
user19161
I am very sick and tired of this world.
 
relax
 
@JacobBlack Hold on dude. Hold on.
 
1:38 PM
@anon See here
 
@user58512 re-askng the question will be met with downvotes and negative comments. Thanking the person answering your question is good, but if you are looking for something else, apologize for changing the question, but append your question with a clarification as to what you are looking for. Some people get bent out of shape and say that you have wasted their time, but it is my opinion that they have the wrong idea of the purpose of this site.
 
@robjohn, I already re-asked.. i felt i couldn't tell him that was wrong after he typed out so much..
 
@anon Hmm I don't think what I ask is true. I think we need $I$ to be non-principal @Sanchez
 
@user58512 sorry I took so long to reply. I hope you don't suffer too many downvotes and negative comments.
 
@robjohn, such good continued fraction work, I wish I had got that
@r
@robjohn, I don't think anyone understands my question - and since RH attracts cranks a lot they are in a bad mode even before reading it
 
1:43 PM
@BenjaLim I apologise for accusing you. I really should not have jumped to that conclusion.
 
@OldJohn, I do't think you can get a Hadamard factorization without an upper bound on the number of zeros. The upper bound uses strange complex analysis technique I can't understand - that motivates my question.
 
@user58512: have you looked at this? I wrote it a while ago, and it only deals with simple continued fractions, but it does prove that the continued fractions all quadratic algebraics repeat (not easy).
 
@robjohn, I just proved that yesterday math.stackexchange.com/questions/298040/…
oh wait, you have the converse result
that's more difficult I think
 
@robjohn In your opinion Sir, what is the purpose of this site.
 
@user58512 Yes, that repeating continued fractions are quadratics is quite a bit easier.
@skullpatrol to teach and learn.
 
1:56 PM
I doubt anyone will answer my question on zeros of zeta, it's too hard for anyone who doesn't study this stuff specifically to answer and it's too easy for anyone who does to bother answering
 
@skull apology accepted.
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:-D
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Q: flags in chat yesterday

Will JagyThere was some sort of excitement yesterday or last night which I found mysterious. It turns out that in Chat, and there is just the one main chat which has been going forever, one may either star a comment as good or flag it as bad in some way. Asking about it within chat seemed to get a lot of ...

 
2:22 PM
Can comments like this not be removed ? math.stackexchange.com/questions/298722/…
it's just rude and noise
 
What is total divisor in Modules ?
 
2:54 PM
@user58512 You mean the comment of Hagen VonEitzen? I caanot see why it is rude however...
 
oh well
ill ignore it
 
I mean: he seems to try to provide some intuitions to your problem(I am not so familiar with ANT though).
 
I don't think so
he's just making a really lame joke
 
And what makes you think so?
 
because it's not mathematical
 
2:58 PM
take a look at the starboard on the right and let me know how many mathematically insightful statements you find.
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In my view, it appears to provide a criterion that some number can occur as the number of zeros of the function. But no number satisfies this criterion, hence the number must in fact be infinite?
 
no
 
@OrangeHarvester My I beg your pardon?
May
 
@awllower my comment was directed towards user...., we allow occasional lame jokes on this site.
 
Oh...
Just that that user seems not like such a user to me.
 
3:01 PM
what do you mean??
 
@user58512 were you previously known as jdoe?
 
I mean: judgeing from his other comments, he rarely made some jukes like this one.
 
oh
I think it's because he doesn't like my question
because I didn't accept his answer before
 
Hehe. Peopel are not so touchy. :P
 
but his "answer" before was just repeating something that I linked
 
3:03 PM
Well, I do not suppose that this(accepting answers) is personal.
But of course I know not what others think though.
 
@JpMcCarthy I suppose it might serve the purpose of showing some of our readers that RH is harder than they imagine, and that they would be wasting their time trying to settle it themselves - or it might encourage some readers to learn some of the harder parts of complex analysis. — Old John 2 hours ago
 
In any case, my poor knowledge of ANT only includes prime number theorem, Dirichlet theorem, Chebotarev theorem, and some others related to zêta, which I prefer to classify as Amgebraic number theory.
Well, since it is late already, I think my bad is summoning me now. Good night everyone, or per chance good day?
 
Most of the times intuition is a personal matter. What is intuitively clear to me might not be intuitively clear to you. Sometimes, you need TO BE ABLE to work out the details to get to the intuition.
@awllower Naah, it is late evening here. Good night.
 
3:19 PM
$5^{\cos(x)}+5^{\cos(\pi-x)}\le2*5^{1/2}$
how can solve this
?
 
What is $\cos(\pi-x)$ in terms of $\cos(x)$?
 
@MarkS. -cos(x)
 
What is the range of cosine?
 
do u mean -1<= cos(x) <= 1
 
Combining those two facts, your problem becomes "$5^y+5^{-y}\le 2*5^{1/2}$ for $-1\le y\le 1$".
Now that the trig stuff is gone, see what you can do with that.
 
3:27 PM
@MarkS. thanks
 
hello
 
Are you the 58512th in the prestigious "user" family?
 
@user58512 hi
 
@MarkS., lol
is it really possible to get the hadamard factorization of the Riemann xi function without an upper bound on the number of zeros?
 
4:15 PM
Hi!
@OrangeHarvester hello, thank you for your yesterday's answer :)
 
Hi guys
 
@Nimza Hi. Actually, Jonas said something more about it. He said you can always do it, because the derivative operator is closed and commutes with bochner integral, I don't knwo what bochner integral is though, so I do not understand what he said. .
 
hello
 
@OrangeHarvester Hehe))
@user58512 hi
 
hey
 
4:18 PM
@Nimza :P Here is what he said:
yesterday, by Jonas Teuwen
@OrangeHarvester Can always do so, derivative is a closed operator, and that commutes with Bochner integrals.
 
@OrangeHarvester :)
 
Hm, $\int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^n_{+}} x_1^{z_1} \ldots x_n^{z_n} \left(1 - \sqrt[n]{x_1 \ldots x_n} \right)_{+} dx$ diverges for any $z$ if I'm not mistaken... right?
 
4:40 PM
@anon, thank you very much
 
np
 
do you recommend any nice book or notes for this stuff? I have davenport which is nice but I like to read multiple books
 
not really
 
@anon Happy CNY
 
4:46 PM
but stops short
 
@BenjaLim I seem to recall a curious scuffle between you and black on that?
 
@anon dunno if you can call it a scuffle
 
@user58512 I get 'object not found' for some reason.
 
oops, corrected
I ytyped wrong url
 
We had snow on the mountain just about 8 miles north of here. I could see it from the park while walking Lilly.
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4:48 PM
@anon I have a quick question
 
you're aware you can copy and paste urls?
 
@anon Suppose that $m \equiv n \equiv k \equiv 1 \mod{4}$
$m,n$ are squarefree integers and $k = mn/(m,n)^2$
 
... is that html squared inside of latex?
 
I get the integers in $\Bbb{Q}(\sqrt{m},\sqrt{n})$ are of the form $\frac{a + b\sqrt{m} + c\sqrt{n} + d\sqrt{k}}{4}$
$a,b,c,d$ are integers
And by taking the norm down to $\Bbb{Q}\sqrt{m}$
I get that $a,b$ must be even.
 
can't help
 
4:51 PM
@anon Ok. No worries.
 
does anyone have a pdf about weierstrass factorization?
 
5:27 PM
Read only mode??
 
those are the wierdest proof-end symbols I have ever seen in a paper, @user58512...
someone had WAY too much fun with the ntheorem package there
I should be using bananas, you know, for scale
 
read only :(
 
What is up with the site? Read only?
 
read.
It says maintainance
 
5:35 PM
Oh. :( I wonder what type of maintenance...
 
ask the SE admins ^.^
theres a meta + meta chat for that
but I guess theyll get annoyed really quick
 
I guess so... I could also just rant about it on this chat. :)
 
so better dont
 
If they are making any changes to the underlying database, it makes sense to prevent people stuffing more stuff into the db while they are doing it :)
 
i got myself a book on complex analysis
 
5:40 PM
what book?
 
@CBenni TWK uses fancy qed's too in his companion to analysis.
 
any reason for that except being a clown? :D
 
Ahlfors
 
:P It might be more common that you think is all I am saying. I personally prefer $\blacksquare$
@user58512 Ahlfors is good.
 
I like Ahlfors too, even if some claim it's bad.
 
5:43 PM
I usually use the normal $\square$
but I guess thats a personal thing
 
$\square^\square$
 
?
That is easily proven, but kinda suprising for a newcomer @user58512.
 
it's immediately obvious to me
 
I guess what is immediate and what isn't is dependent on who's asking.
 
yes, because you are a 1.2k rep user
 
5:52 PM
it was a surprse to me that n | phi(a^n + b^n)
 
@user58512 Well, he discovered one result and he got another one for free, a more strict version.
 
for a > b > 1 I think
 
to someone who is new to number theory, it might not. The only thing I absolutely cannot stand are the thousands of users who ask "why is 0/0 not equal to <insert random symbol here>"
@user58512 and phi is? Theres a bunch of functions called phi
like every second function is called phi
the rest is called gamma
 
every $1.618\dots^{\text{th}}$ function is called phi.
 
@OrangeHarvester I THINK I understood that reference
 
5:55 PM
@CBenni good :-)
 

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