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6:04 PM
@BalarkaSen rather than 8 I get to 10
which gives me 87 in the end
which is correct
 
10?
phi(16) = 8 \neq 10
 
yes it is reduced to mod 10
100->20->10
 
phi(100) is 40
you miscalculated presumably
 
@BalarkaSen But still got the right answer?
interesting
 
well, think about it. there should be a modular arithmetic - theoretic answer behind this phenomena
i am eating right now
 
6:08 PM
@BalarkaSen hmm I know euler totient but I did this on the bus with no pen an paper so euler totient wasn't viable
 
well totient computation is not hard :)
just break up 100 in coprime pieces
take totient and then close up by multiplying
 
needs more practice to do in my head
@BalarkaSen i think the reason is because $4|\varphi(100)$
so something worked/broke there
Also @BalarkaSen $\displaystyle\left\lfloor\sum_{k=2}^n\zeta(k)\right\rfloor=n-1$
I came up with a proof of it today.
 
@Alizter meh zeta sums
 
@BalarkaSen I proved it in a different way which anybody could do without knowing much about the zeta function
 
floor inequality?
 
6:14 PM
mmmhmmm
But I am wondering if there is anything significant this can tell us?
 
well obvious. $\sum_{k=2}^n 1 = n - 1$
 
aha
@BalarkaSen if I have a cubic $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d$ with positive solutions and I create a cuboid with sides the roots of the cubic. What is the Edge length, surface area and volume of my cuboid?
 
Let's not batter me with flurry of seemingly unrelated questions.
 
@BalarkaSen they are interesting
 
I like to stick with a certain specific problem and think about them for weeks.
I am not the kind of olympiad-guy.
 
6:24 PM
@BalarkaSen the edge length is 2a
the surface area is 2b
and the volume is c
 
I can't care much without knowing why is this interesting. What's the motivation behind this problem?
 
Geometric intuition for roots of polynomials and their coefficients
and this is true for a n-dimensional cube with the coefficients after the leading one being the k dimensional properties
 
@Alizter I already know of an excellent geometric interpretation of polynomial roots. Have a look at King's book.
Why should I believe this more interesting than invariant theory of polyhedras?
Sorry, but these all look like olympiad problems to me. I can't care less about olympiad-ish problems.
 
@BalarkaSen Well I don't know if they are olympiad or not they are what we discuss at school and on the bus
 
Hello. Is there a symbol for homomorphism?
 
6:30 PM
the tetration one is most likely olympiad
@Patrick Why?
 
@Patrick not that i am familiar with.
 
Out of curiosity
Okay, thanks.
 
@Alizter trick theory once in a while feels good but i just don't feel like thinking about a bunch of unrelated questions at once.
 
@BalarkaSen I keep lots of questions circulating in my head
I never get bored that way
 
suggestion : concentrate on one.
 
6:32 PM
@BalarkaSen why?
 
leo
@Patrick $\cong$
 
@leo no that is isomorphism
 
no @leo
it's isomorphism
@Alizter beat me to it in any case ;)
 
leo
misread
 
@BalarkaSen ok see you later need to do physics
 
6:35 PM
later pal
 
7:15 PM
@BalarkaSen Interested by a linear algebra problem ?
 
@TheGame I would use in instead of by there.
 
Oh thanks
 
7:37 PM
@WillHunting Have you seen my latest lhf ? :D
 
@TheGame Nope. I am not even interested in lhf these days. =)
 
You changed :D
Then try my a bit less trivial question math.stackexchange.com/questions/950166/… :D
 
@TheGame Nope, these days I only come to chat. I come to chat for conversation, emotional support and advice. No more answering questions for me, for ever!
 
Aww :/
 
Next year, hopefully I won't even come to chat. I will be busy studying my holy books.
 
leo
7:47 PM
@TheGame $E$ is not a subspace
so dimension has no sense
 
@leo ???
'Let E be a vector subspace'
How is it not a subspace ?
 
leo
@TheGame Let $\epsilon_i$ the $i$th row of the identity matrix. Then $$(\epsilon_1,\ldots,\epsilon_{n-1},0) + (0,\ldots,0,\epsilon_n) = I$$ and $I$ is invertible so $I\not\in E$
 
@leo And so ? A vector space need only to contain the $0$, not the $1$
@leo Oh wait
 
leo
@TheGame I'm saying that there are two elements in $E$ whose sum is not in $E$. So $E$ is not closed under sum of vectors, so it can't be a subspace
 
@leo I made an error, it's just a subspace, not necessarily a vector subspace.
 
leo
7:56 PM
@TheGame subspace in which sense? Subset? Then what do you mean by dimension?
 
@leo The exercise has a 'mean' (yes!) tag attached to it. I'm starting to believe you're right and that the answer is weird
Let me think
Yeah indeed the dimension is only defined over a subspace
And indeed obviously $i\notin E$ as it's invertible
 
leo
@TheGame Well $\dim \langle E\rangle$ makes sense
 
I haven't studied normed spaces a lot yet
@leo Yeah I thinkk you're right :) the answer is 'Such a subspace doesn't exist !'
Wow :D
Oh wait
Waiiiit
@leo Wait there's something wrong
 
Both robjohn and chris sis have left the chat, amazing!
 
@leo How do you know that $(0,\dots,0,\epsilon_n)\in E$ ?
$E$ is not the subset of all non invertible matrices, it is a subset containing non invertible matrices
 
leo
8:03 PM
@TheGame you are talking about the same thing using different words.
 
@leo Why ? The first one does contain $(0,\dots,0,\epsilon_n), whereas the second does not necessarily contain it
 
leo
@TheGame for example for $n=3$ that matrix is $$\begin{pmatrix} 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1\end{pmatrix}$$ which is not invertible so in $E$
 
How do you pronounce 1) abelian 2) homotopy? Is it 'uh-"bell"-ee-uhn' and 'ho-mah-tuh-pee'? Thanks
 
@leo As I told you, $E$ is not the subset of all non invertible matrixes
Any subset containing only non invertible matrixes will do
 
leo
@TheGame Then you have to clearly state what is $E$
 
8:06 PM
'Let E be a subspace of Mn(ℝ) that contains no invertible matrix.'
That's what I wrote
Or is that unclear too ?
 
@Patrick I say "uh BEEL ee uhn" and "HO muh toh pee"
 
I have to translate from French so I'm never too sure
 
leo
ok, then it's the subspace generated by non invertible matrix, which makes the question interesting
 
I am rethinking my holy books on language. I will come up with another list soon. But my holy books on math is as starred.
@TheGame Currently, I plan to learn English, Chinese, French, German and Russian, lol.
 
leo
@TheGame do you speak french?
 
8:08 PM
@leo Indeed, as I am French.
 
leo
@TheGame french sounds nice
 
:)
 
leo
One last thing, 'Let E be a subspace of Mn(ℝ) that contains no invertible matrix.' it's ambiguous, because there can be several spaces that contain non invertible matrices
 
Is there any one who speaks Russian here?
 
leo
as stated it can be the whole $M_n(\Bbb R)$ itself
so you better say 'Let $E$ the...'
 
8:12 PM
@leo Mn(ℝ) contains invertible matrices
@leo But $E$ is not defined as a specific space
 
leo
@TheGame and non invertible too
 
All we know about it is that it is a subspace containing only non invertible matrices
 
leo
since it contains all the matrices
 
@leo But $M_n[\mathbb{R}]$ contains invertible matrixes
And $E$ doesn't contain any invertible matrix
 
r9m
@DanielFischer Can you help me with something :) .. I was trying to use perron summation formula to estimate $\sum\limits_{n \le x} |\mu(n)|$ and I was stuck at trying to estimate $\displaystyle\left|\frac{1}{2\pi i}\int\limits_{\sigma-iT}^{\sigma+iT} \frac{\zeta(s)x^s}{\zeta(2s)s}\,ds\right|$ as $\mathcal{O}(\textrm{something with $x^{\sigma}$ and $T$})$ (for $\sigma \in (\frac{1}{2},1)$) .. (the vertical integral after shifting the line integral to a $\sigma$)
 
leo
8:14 PM
@TheGame I understand nothing then
 
@leo Ok i'll explain again
$E$ is a subspace of $M_n[\mathbb{R}]$
We know that $E$ contains no invertible matrix
Let $r=\max\{rank(M)\mid M\in E\}$, show that $\dim E\leq n^2-(n-r)^2-1$
Here
 
@r9m Urk. I don't see how to estimate that integral. You presumably know that $$\sum_{n\leqslant x} \lvert \mu(n)\rvert \sim \frac{6}{\pi^2}x,$$ so do you want something better from the integral?
 
@AntonioVargas Thank you.
 
8:32 PM
Hey, The Game. Do you remember the name of the dude who was in here yesterday helping us ou tw/ some stuff?
He suggested I preform some calculation because it'd be enlightening, and I neglected to write it down, but I have the time to do so now and don't remember what it was. :l
 
@AmagicalFishy There's a transcript
 
Awwww, hell yeah. Thanks. :)
 
:D
 
r9m
@DanielFischer yes .. I'm stuck :'(
 
@r9m Maybe there is something known about the values of $\zeta$ that allows to get a good estimate, but I don't know much about $\zeta$. Perhaps Balarka knows something?
 
r9m
8:43 PM
okay :) .. @BalarkaSen any ideas regarding ^ .. :)
 
9:09 PM
What, @r9m?
@r9m Oh, whoa, those. Complex zeta contour integral estimations never get old do they? ;)
OK, so wait let me write this up. You need an estimation for $$\int_{c-iT}^{c+iT} \frac{\zeta(s)}{\zeta(2s)} \frac{x^s}{s} ds$$
Let's think about this one instead $$\int_{c-iT}^{c+iT} \frac{\zeta(s+w)}{\zeta(2(s+w))} \frac{x^w}{w} dw$$
The integrand blows up at $w = 0$, so leaves out $\zeta(s)/\zeta(2s)$. Make a dent $[c-iT, -\delta -iT] \cup [-\delta-iT, -\delta+iT] \cup [-\delta+iT, c+iT]$ for some $\delta > 0$ such that $\zeta(2(s+w))$ has no zeros in $\Re[2w] > -\delta$ and the imaginary part bounded by $T + \text{blah}$ or some such.
 
9:27 PM
hello fellas
 
Hey there
 
@KajHansen hi how is it going?
 
@r9m OK, I think knowing that $\sigma > 1 - A\log^{-9}(t)$ is $\zeta(s)$ zero-free for some constant $A$ should do. Sub in $\delta = A\log^{-9}(t)$. The rest looks very tedious estimations.
 
Not too bad @HipsterMathematician. I think I'm gonna start my ODEs problem set soon.
 
@KajHansen Exciting
The most important part in a problem is to start it.
 
9:31 PM
:P It's actually been quite interesting so far, so it won't be too much of a chore.
 
aah :)
I'm enrolled in something very fascinating
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen I need estimation for the vertical integral emerging form shifting the line integral to the region $(1/2,1)$ .. (I have an idea for the estimates of horizontal integrals) ..
 
Oh yeah?
 
@KajHansen yes, I'm finding that gas back again
 
@r9m Why are you shifting it to there? In any case, what is your final form for the vertical integral?
Ah damn it I let a mosquito in
 
r9m
9:34 PM
@BalarkaSen just $\displaystyle\left|\frac{1}{2\pi i}\int\limits_{\sigma-iT}^{\sigma+iT} \frac{\zeta(s)x^s}{\zeta(2s)s}\,ds\right|$ for $\sigma \in (0.5,1)$
I want it in terms of $\mathcal{O}$(something to do with $x^{\sigma}$ and $T$) ..
btw can you give me some link or book .. where I can find application of perron summation formula to estimate average of arithmetic functions ? @Balarka
@BalarkaSen kill it fast ,, :P
 
You'd better off make a dent on the contour as I suggested, @r9m. Otherwise $(0.5, 1)$ is zero-free, so $1/\zeta(s) = O(\log^7(t))$
 
r9m
I see .. !! okay ,,
 
@r9m You're using very weak form of Perron if I am not wrong. The strong form estimates sections of the L-functions. try Titchmarsh or some such.
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen okay .. :)
 
@r9m From where are you studying these stuffs anyway?
@KajHanser Hello.
 
9:40 PM
Hello @BalarkaSen
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen we have a course not :( .. with no applications (except for the proof of PNT)
 
bleh. the proof of pnt involved $\sum \mu(n)/n$ estimates, i presume?
 
r9m
ya ..
 
@KajHansen Any cool galois theory in mind?
 
@BalarkaSen, nothing too interesting. Real analysis and ODEs have preoccupied me the past few weeks.
 
9:44 PM
@r9m Titchmarsh never explicitly proves PNT that way but does mention Perron and gives some examples. If you combine $\sum \mu(n)/n$ estimates with the number theoretic form of pnt ($M(x) = o(x)$) you'd have proved it anyway..
 
r9m
cc
 
i was fortunate enough to figure that out from Iwaniec-Kowlaski... the tauberian proof in Titchmarsh went over my head =P
hard stuff. well, good luck with analytic number theory.
 
r9m
=P okay .. thank you :)
 
@KajHansen Yugh real analysis
@r9m did you have fun with galois theory last time?
 
r9m
omg !! :( I'm not having fun with anything on my course atm :(
 
9:50 PM
@Balarka: If you keep saying "ugh" to every mention of analysis, I shall return you to ignore.
How're you doing, almost-old-man, @Kaj?
 
@TedShifrin i am just expressing the fact that i don't i have the mathematical maturity to study or even appreciate analysis yet
 
I'm not too bad @TedShifrin. About to start my Quodes homework in a bit.
 
nothing personal, Mr. Analysis.
 
Well, it bothers me like it bothers me when Jasper says that certain books are categorically bad.
Due tomorrow, @Kaj? :D
 
Thursday!! @Ted.
 
9:52 PM
Wow, I'm impressed :D
 
900 situps, you mean?
 
BTW, did you look at my probability exam, @Kaj? I had to post solutions, since so much of the class did so poorly. :(
 
@KajHansen Hi Matt Damon!
 
I've been doing well this semester. Near perfect scores on homeworks for every class. Probably because they aren't your classes though. :P
 
speaking of Jasper and his hatred ...
 
9:53 PM
speak of the devil...
 
Well, I'm pleased, nevertheless, @Kaj. Your diff geo homeworks were pretty consistent. I just wished you'd had time to do the more interesting problems -- which were deserving of your attention.
 
I didn't @TedShifrin. Are they on your website?
 
Yeah, on the 4600 page, @Kaj.
 
hey i wanted to post that . darn internet connection.
 
Ignore the solutions and see how you do on the exam.
 
9:53 PM
Sure thing. I'm sure my combinatorics experience will go a long ways.
 
Yes, you'd probably get page 1, unlike all but 5 of my students :(
greetings @Jasper
 
So Dr. Clark subbed for our real lectures last week. He's a wonderful lecturer.
 
@TedShifrin Hi Teddy.
 
what happened to your students these days, @TedShifrin? they're not quite in their form...
 
he has his skills, for sure, @Kaj. His topology course should kick people's ass :P But right for you.
 
9:55 PM
@BalarkaSen at this time of the night?
 
@Parth look who's talking.
 
sends the Indian contingent to the dungeon
 
haha
 
I decided to stop all my meds and psychotherapy. I am making a bold decision.
 
whoa, @Jasper. Please don't be rash and crash.
No humor intended, seriously.
 
9:57 PM
no @Jasper you're making a silly decision.
 
@TedShifrin Help me on my matrix problem :/ I still haven't been able to do it
 
I just don't think they help.
 
Well, @Jasper, you may not be in a position to judge how bad it'll be without them.
 
@MikeMiller!!!!11!
 
The Game = Hippalectryon? Everyone's changing their usernames these days.
 
9:57 PM
I'm not sure I know the answer, @TheGame.
 
@TedShifrin I sent you a facebook message (that probably should have been an email). If you get a chance, I hope you'll be able to respond. Thanks.
 
@TedShifrin Ah :c
 
oh noes he is gone again
 
Hippa has changed his name more times than I can count.
Oh oh, that worries me about Mike.
(I didn't say uncountably many times. I just don't count well.)
 
he's probably in deep sorrow.
 
9:58 PM
@TedShifrin 2 times
-___-
 
@BalarkaSen I'm sick, so...
 
@Parth what happened?
 
@WillHunting that's good decision
 
by induction, ...
 
@TedShifrin Does that mean you can only count up to 2 ?
 
9:59 PM
@HipsterMathematician Why do you say so?
 
:D
Hippa->Trogdor->TheGame
 
@BalarkaSen Fever and cold.
 
->Hippa soon
 
@WillHunting be strong on yourself
 
Trogdor teh Burninator.
 
9:59 PM
When the 30 days delay is over
 
@TheGame short exact sequences?
 
@HipsterMathematician Have you ever taken meds or psychotherapy?
 
@BalarkaSen uh ?
 
Hippa --> Trogdor --> TheGame --> Hippa
Hippa is the identity.
 
@WillHunting Be careful or the cops will catch the ducks
 
10:00 PM
@TheGame I don't understand.
 
@WillHunting nope
 
@HipsterMathematician Hmm, do you have a mental problem like me?
 
@WillHunting no, jasper
 
@HipsterMathematician Ah, then it is weird to make such a comment. =)
 
@Jasper: Don't blame us for being concerned that you're trying to treat yourself.
It's because we care about you.
 
10:02 PM
 
@WillHunting no, i just care about you you know that
 
@WillHunting You shouldn't discontinue the meds, seriously. I know, I have a close relative who has Schizophrenia
 
@TheGame: I suspect that even in the rank 1 case, the dimension must be less. But surely we can show that if the dimension is too big, we'll have a matrix of rank $\ge 2$ in there.
 
@HipsterMathematician Did you recently change your username?
 
@WillHunting B-)
@WillHunting who am I, Jasper?
 
10:03 PM
@HipsterMathematician Marilia!
 
@WillHunting :D
 
@Jasper is far cleverer than I.
 
Who... Are... You...?
 
I don't recognize you people with your masks.
 
@WillHunting WAT
 
10:04 PM
Hey @Sarah missed you, lol.
 
oh noes Sarah is here
FLY YOU FOOLS
4
Before chatroom gets spammed up
 
?
@WillHunting long day
 
Hello again @ccorn
 
@BalarkaSen Hello
 
@BalarkaSen you're very mysogenistic
 
10:06 PM
Hello @robjohn
 
@BalarkaSen You sound like Gandalf
 
@Alizter hello
 
I still cannot decide whether to use pgf or pstricks for graphics. Any comments?
 
hi @robjohn
 
@TedShifrin Jasper knows me, we're buddies
 
10:07 PM
I know neither, @Jasper.
 
@robjohn Do you know a nice proof for this? $$\left\lfloor\sum_{k=2}^n\zeta(k)\right\rfloor=n-1$$
 
@TedShifrin what's up?
 
I refuse to be buddies with anyone :D
 
I still cannot decide whether to use Teach Yourself series or Living Language series to learn languages. Any comments?
 
@TedShifrin, no solution to the extra credit problem :(
 
10:08 PM
Cool question for you, @robjohn (and for others). Ah, @Kaj: that was a slightly easier case of a homework question.
 
@WillHunting Teach Yourself series? Is that an analysis book?
 
Oh, that makes sense then. So of course, everyone should've gotten it? :P
 
@robjohn and everyone else: We all know that you can make a cone by gluing together a pacman figure (sector of a circle). If we slice said cone with a plane and get an ellipse, what does that look like in the pacman figure?
 
@Sarah It's a whole series of books that help you teach yourself various topics.
 
@WillHunting It's called "Talk to a Native Speaker to Learn a Language."
 
10:08 PM
@TheGame I am Gandalf
2
 
@WillHunting It was a joke lol
 
@BalarkaSen CONSPIRACY
 
@Sarah Oh, lol.
 
long day?
 
ILLUMINATGANDALFI @BalarkaSen
 
10:09 PM
(@robjohn: I figured out the answer today, but it truly surprised me)
 
@Sarah No, the same for everyone: 24 hours.
 
ahahah, @Hippa
 
I think Hippa's laptop is burning up again.
 
@Sarah Oh I just got your email. We can continue talking there in future. =)
 
Did you see my comments above, @TheGAme?
 
10:10 PM
@TedShifrin, is this on the same mind-blowing level as "three families of circles on the torus"?
 
@ParthKohli Not necessarily... if you run really fast against rotation etc.
 
@TedShifrin Keyboard malfunction?
 
@TedShifrin Just the one about the laptop
 
@Alizter I'd use the fact that $\sum\limits_{k=2}^\infty(\zeta(k)-1)=1$
 
Hmm, @Kaj ... no, less classic, I think. This question came from one of Mo's calc II students, really.
 
10:11 PM
@robjohn Can you please look at that ? math.stackexchange.com/questions/950166/…
 
@robjohn Yes. Someone posed that argument however I am still trying to get it to work.
I tried to get bounds
but the upper is difficult
 
@KajHansen I thought moduli problem on a torus was trivial?
Should I stand corrected?
 
"Moduli problem"? We should be certain we are thinking of the same thing.
 
@Kaj: The rest of the test was pretty routine, eh?
 
@TedShifrin, the first page was basically the first page of our first combos exam.
 
Right: It was one day of the first week of our class.
 
@ccorn Have ever though about how Riemannsurface of $w = j^{-1}(z)$ looks like?
 
Granted, at least half the class dropped combos.
Or so it seemed.
 
10:14 PM
But I didn't phrase that in terms of bridge hand distributions. So they all tried to count actual hands :(
I still have 32 students, @Kaj.
 
That's strange. I thought the overpopulation from geometry was simply due to the major requirement.
 
Well, @Kaj, there's a pattern. Canfield retired last spring, and I am this coming one :P
 
LOL
 
I have lots of students trying to do the actuarial certificate. The guy in Terry said he'd accept 4600 in lieu of STAT 4510, @Kaj. Some of them are actually quite good, but most aren't.
 
@TedShifrin R. Canfield?
 
10:16 PM
Yes, @Balarka, E.R. Canfield.
 
The one with whom R. B. Kind collaborated on the quintic survey?
 
Hmm, that would surprise me.
 
I heard Terry was now offering their own calculus courses independent of the math department?
 
Malcolm just told me that on Friday, @Kaj. Some combined calculus/stat ... who knows. Ugh.
BTW, @Kaj, I assume your dad survived that ordeal in Athens that day with @Pedro :D
 
@TedShifrin Dis
 
10:18 PM
Indeed. He really enjoyed himself @Ted.
 
hmm, must be the same guy, yeah, @Balarka. He spent his life in the CS department but was really a mathematician.
cool, @Kaj.
OK, time to cook dinner. I'm outta here. That cone slicing question is quite surprising.
 
@Alizter exactly what is causing you trouble?
 
I believe Canfield also collaborated with King on the paper about some kind of derivative chains.
 
That is indeed him @Balarka.
 
0
A: Proof of the fact that ln(a) = f '(0) for f(x) = a^x?

SemsemHint: Use the definition $$f'(0)=\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(0+h)-f(0)}{h}$$ and then apply L'Hospital rule

 
10:19 PM
@TedShifrin I'll have to find that...
 
Err, what?
 
I can also brag that an Erdos #1 taught me combinatorics :P
 
@KajHansen Cool.
@KajHansen Canfield has Erdos number 1?
 
Indeed he does @Balarka.
A few UGA professors from the past have had Erdos number 1.
 
How do you get an Erdos number of 2/3?
 
10:21 PM
Oh cool. I must brag then that my first serious mathematics I learnt was from a book written by an Erdos number 2, @Kaj
 
@IceBoy, publish with someone who has published with Erdos for a 2.
 
@robjohn we can say that $1<\zeta(k)<2$ for $k\ge 2$ therefore we have $n-1<S<2n-2$ where S is that sum. I can't get that upper bound tighter so that I can show it is inbetween 2 integers.
 
@Alizter can you show that $\sum\limits_{k=2}^\infty(\zeta(k)-1)=1$?
 
@robjohn $\dim(E)=n^2-1$ : why ?
 
@TheGame For all but exceptional cases, you can determine the bottom right element so that the matrix is non-invertible. Thus, you have $n^2-1$ degrees of freedom in choosing the elements.
 
10:32 PM
@robjohn But the exercise states that $\dim E\leq n^2-(n-r)^2-1$, and I'm sure it' not wrong.
 
@TheGame I thought that $E$ was the subspace of matrices that were non-invertible.
 
It is
Oh wait no
It is a subspace of non invertible matrices
Not the subspace with all non invertible matrices
I don't even know if the subset containing all non invertible matrices is a vector subspace
 
@TheGame okay, if we set $r=n-1$, then we get $n-2$ which is closer. We probably give up a degree of freedom at least by making it a subspace
 
@robjohn I gtg to sleep now, it's 00:40 here. i've already tried thinking for a day or two at least on the question but haven't succeeded, if you find something let me know !
Thanks
 
@robjohn Yes. I can do it that way. Leaving me to show $\zeta(n+1)>\zeta(n)>1$ however I would like to see if it can be solved using inequalities.
 
10:50 PM
@KajHansen I was this close to bringing up Breaking Bad and meth stuff.
You know, because chemistry.
 
@DanielFischer
 
is it possible to formulate the properties of antisymmetry in FOL?
 
@BalarkaSen What are you up to?
 
@PedroTamaroff I'm confus. Consider the Riemann surface of $w^3 = z^2 - 1$ I'm getting the branch cuts at $[-2, 2]$ and $[-i \infty, i \infty]$. This is apparently incorrect...
 
@BalarkaSen How do you define the Riemann surface of $w^3=z^2-1$?
 
10:59 PM
@PedroTamaroff The surface on which the multivalues of $w(z)$ are continuous.
You know, $\sqrt[3]{z^2-1} \cdot \exp(2\pi i k/3)$
 
@BalarkaSen I take it is a surface embedded in $\Bbb R^3$. But what is the formal definition?
 

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