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Huy
12:00 PM
@Danu: Is a Killing vector the same as a Killing field? It sounds different but I only know Killing fields.
 
@Huy I guess a Killing vector field is what physicists call a Killing vector
 
Huy
@Danu: I have a definition that a smooth vector field is called a Killing field if its local flow is an isometry onto its image. Is that what you mean?
 
Then the "proof" Carroll gives is: 1) Go to locally inertial coordinates. 2) Observe that the Riemann tensor should be invariant under Lorentz transformations because of maximal symmetry 3) Recall that only the Kronecker delta, the metric and the Levi-Civita tensor have this property 4) Try to replicate the symmetries of the Riemann tensor 5) Find the above form
@Huy Sounds about right. The way physicists think about it is: The Lie derivative of the metric w.r.t. a Killing vector vanishes
Step 2 is the tricky thing
It's not 100% clear to me
 
Huy
Is the Lie derivative definition more useful than the characterization using a connection?
 
lol that typo I made was funny :P
@Huy It's the one physicists use. I just completed a (real mathematics) course in Riemannian geometry, but we spent all semester doing Chern-Weil theory instead of actual Riemannian geometry so we didn't get to Killing fields :(
 
Huy
12:05 PM
I'm doing a mathematics course in Riemannian geometry too and unfortunately the prof hardly does a single proof and leaves pretty much everything as an exercise, which is a bit overwhelming to me. :(
 
But the Lie derivative and the covariant derivative are closely related anyways so it's not a real problem.
 
Huy
Yes, that's true.
 
@Huy Oh, that sounds crappy :\
 
Huy
I just never saw the Lie derivative definition prior to now here and on wiki.
 
@BalarkaSen right.
 
12:06 PM
@Huy In physics books this is what one finds ;)
 
Huy
@Danu: I think he has a hard time realizing not all students are as gifted as he is/was. :P
I'll have a look at the Riemannian geometry section of Carroll's lecture notes, because that's all that's available to me.
 
@Huy I had a similar problem with my professor (he was somewhat of a child prodigy)
 
Huy
@Danu: Are you already writing your Master's thesis now?
 
@Huy No, I'll be taking 6 semesters in order to take extra courses.
 
Huy
@Danu: Ah, I see. What courses are you taking next semester?
 
12:10 PM
@Huy CFT, string theory 1, topology 1, gauge-gravity duality, advanced field theory, maybe symplectic geometry
 
Huy
Cool stuff!
 
Think so :D
 
Huy
You didn't do any topology prior to differential/Riemannian geometry? O.o
 
@Huy Nope, lol :P But I managed. One needs surprisingly little beyond some terminology, at least in the courses here at LMU.
I'm patching up this (gaping) hole in my knowledge now: I'll be reading some books over the summer.
 
Huy
Ok. I made rather the opposite experience, our first part of the differential geometry course was containing a lot of topology so I had to revise a lot.
 
12:13 PM
I'm also trying to improve my (non-existent) knowledge of algebra: I'm about 80% through the book by Vinberg, but I think I need another book. However, reading books alone is quite boring and I find myself not really focusing on a lot of the material that seems not all-too-relevant for geometry and stuff :P ...but then I end up not knowing what one needs to in order to get started on the more interesting things, of course.
 
Huy
@Danu: Talk to BalarkaSen about it. He'll make you focus on it. :D
 
A line (straight and infinitely long) is a specific circle and a specific exponential, and so is a line, and a circle, and an exponential?
 
A line is a specific exponential? What do you mean by that
 
y=1^x
like how a rectangle is a specific polygon
"an example of a"
 
@alan2here Lol, kind of far-fetched but okay
 
Huy
12:19 PM
@Danu: Are you busy this week?
 
@Huy No, I'm on holidays.
 
Huy
I see. I'll be having lots of Riemannian geometry questions if you're around. :D
 
Sure, find me in the h bar
ACuriousMind over there also knows a lot.
(much more than me, typically)
 
@Danu thanks :)
also, offsetting the half unit circle, by a half, then inverting it, resulting in a circle thats also a (straight, infinite) line
 
12:52 PM
@robjohn Hi, I cannot find an answer of you about something like (1+x/n)^x where you used floor function to use binomial theorem ?
 
1:33 PM
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1:45 PM
@Huy: I can provide intuition for some apparently nonintuitive stuff if people ask for it, but... can't really make someone focus on something if he doesn't feel like it :)
 
hi.
 
I just digested the proof of $V\cong V^{**}$. I'll work on your infinite-dimensional counterexample later, don't worry.
 
sure.
 
Now on to tensor products! :)
 
1:48 PM
you're not going to get much about tensor products.
 
Huy
I'm on tensor products too!
 
a good intuition for them comes from billinear maps.
 
Ah, okay.
 
(in lin. alg.)
also, do some exercises, man.
 
1:49 PM
I'm doing all the exercises in the book (which aren't very hard, but, still).
@Huy internet high five
@BalarkaSen You mean studying all those things in Artin's bilinear chapter?
 
Huy
I find the book you're using rather odd, from the two excerpts you've shown.
 
And the book I'm using also treats the "physics notation" later. I've always, always wanted to be able to use that :D
 
yeah, @Soham.
 
@Huy What, specifically?
 
btdubs, as a future exercise, prove that pullbacks of modules is tensor product.
 
1:52 PM
I'll do some exercises from Artin later, B. Don't worry. :P
Pullback of vector spaces is, too, no? (of course; special case)
I saw that on wiki.
 
I hope SB stumps you on some hard problems and makes you realize that exercises are important.
vector space is an F-module
 
k-module, c'mon. All the cool people use k for their fields. :P
Nevertheless, okay.
 
I do too.
I even write K/k for field extensions. Looks awesome in a blackboard.
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Huy
@SohamChowdhury: For example the stated motivation. "We want to be able to multiply vectors such that they behave bilinearly." This wouldn't make me care about this tensor product at all.
 
Uh, but isn't linearity like the most amazing property you can have?
 
Huy
1:56 PM
@SohamChowdhury: Also, generally, I find it meaningless to state "this concept is very important, and/because it has a lot of applications" whilst not giving any example.
 
huh?
why is it amazing?
 
Well . . . a non-answer would be that this is linear algebra.
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: It's not linear though, it's bilinear. The point is that it allows you to study linear maps instead of bilinear ones.
 
But, that aside, aren't (bi)linear functions easier to work with?
 
@Huy Ted's approach to tensor products is by Whitney sum on bundles.
 
Huy
1:58 PM
@BalarkaSen: I don't know if you're saying this because you find it a particularly good or bad approach. :D
 
They have all sorts of nice properties and you can reduce any question about stuff in general to how the function behaves on a basis. That's nice, IMO.
 
I guess it's good, but I don't understand it.
 
Huy
I don't really either.
 
Balarka, you know diff geo too?
Where'd you learn all this bundle stuff?
 
bundle is alg top
 
1:59 PM
oh, okay.
 
I will learn some diff geo next month
Exams would be over in a week, and then I am free
 
As preparation/motivation for AG?
 
yep.
 
Oh, good.
Have your exams started?
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: My point was that instead of studying bilinear maps, the tensor product allows you to study linear maps, which is a lot easier. However the motivation stated in the book is just "we want to multiply vectors" and "this product has a lot of important applications", which are rather empty statements, at least to me.
 
2:00 PM
got one tomorrow
I'm gonna learn cohomology next month, finish A-M and do mult. calc. Lots of work.
 
@Huy I see.
Stop making me jealous, Balarka. Let's see . . . what will I be doing?
I have exams in September. :'(
 
And then I've got to talk with some commutative algebraist and motivist (is that even a thing?). Dunno anything about both.
@Soham You'll learn the fundamentals first.
Learn algebra/number theory thoroughly and let me know when you learn class field theory.
I've always wanted to understand what it is.
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: I was more criticizing style rather than content. For example, if I teach differentiation, I don't start with "in the following classes we will compute the slope of functions because they're useful".
Maybe I'm just very different, but I need proper motivation to get me interested in a new topic. :(
 
Me too.
My motivation for tensor products is that they are pullbacks in R-Mod, and they give Vect(k) a symmetric monoidal structure
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ducks
 
Huy
My motivation has rather often been "I need to understand this stuff to understand the stuff that I want to understand" recently.
 
2:07 PM
C'mon, covering spaces deserve a better motivation than that,
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: BTW, we should chat in German regularly, so you can make it into ETH at last. :D
 
Take a topological space X. Take the (there is only one unique, yes) simply connected cover of X, Y. Let G_X be the group of all self-homeomorphisms of Y that descend to the same map in X.
Fact : If X, X' are home, then G_X = G_X'
*homeo
 
Huy
Why is there only one?
 
G_X is usually denoted as $\pi_1(X)$, and is called the "fundamental group" of $X$. Hope that gives some extra motivation.
 
Huy
Theoretically I should know about fundamental groups from my topology course. But I was pretty bad in topology.
 
2:13 PM
@Huy Try proving it. I have to run right now. Ping me later if you can't prove it but also want to learn why its true.
Forgot to mention that X is a nice top. space but whatever
 
Huy
Run, BalarkaSen! Run!
 
Ja. :)
How do I say "$\Bbb{R^3\otimes_R C}$ has dimension 6 over $\Bbb R$" auf Deutsch?
(The "over" is the problem)
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: über.
 
Ah. So "what dimension does ____ have over $\Bbb C$?" is, uh, "Welche Dimension hat ____ über $\Bbb C$?"
 
Huy
Yeah.
 
2:20 PM
Also, you have a proper keyboard. I hate you. :P
 
Huy
Buy one. :D
Mathematical German is rather easy, actually.
Most things translate literally.
 
Wenn ich in letztes Jahr in Deutschland war, bekam ich für einige Zeit ein ThinkPad mit ein deutsche Tastatur.
Sehr . . . confusing?
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: "Als ich letztes Jahr"
"mit einer deutschen Tastatur"
 
Ah.
mit takes Dativ.
I'm horribly rusty.
 
Huy
:D
@SohamChowdhury: I have a ThinkPad too, a really old Lenovo W500. Too bad it doesn't work with Windows 10. :(
 
2:25 PM
Schade.
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: Wann warst du letztes Mal in Deutschland?
 
Im Juni.
 
Huy
Wo?
 
Sankt-Peter Ording.
Norddeustchland.
 
Huy
Wozu?
 
2:26 PM
Deutschkurs. :)
 
Huy
:D
Dann solltest du aber noch nicht "horribly rusty" sein! ;)
 
Nicht in diesem Jahr, @Huy.
 
Huy
Achso.
Normalerweise, wenn du "im Juni" schreibst, dann bedeutet das, dass es im Juni in diesem Jahr war.
 
Ist "Juni von letztes Jahr" richtig?
 
Huy
"Im Juni letztes Jahr" oder "Im Juni letzten Jahres" oder "Im Juni vom letzten Jahr". The first one is what you'd use when speaking, the second is probably the most correct way written, the third I wouldn't advice to use.
 
2:31 PM
Advise* :)
It's difficult to get this kind of advice online. Thanks.
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: Maybe easier: "letzten Juni", but people have different conventions what "last June" means, but to me it would mean Juni last year. :D
 
:)
Ich soll lineare Algebra studieren. Tschüss.
 
Huy
Viel Spass!
Morning, @MikeMiller.
 
Morning.
 
3:06 PM
Hey, here's a nice puzzle:
Find a topological space $X$ that has a dense, isolated (proper) subset $S\subset X$. (That is, every open set in $X$ intersects $S$, and every point in $s\in S$ has a neighborhood $N_s$ such that $N_s\cap X=\{s\}$.)
(By "isolated subset" I mean every point in it is isolated in $X$.)
Answer: $\{0\}\cup\{1,1/2,1/3,1/4,\dots\}$ with the usual topology. The $1/k$ elements are dense and isolated.
 
3:35 PM
Duh, @Soham, $k^n \otimes k^m\cong k^{nm}$ (prove this).
@columbus8myhw Spec Z with Zariski topology does the job, I think. The generic point (0) is dense.
But this is killing a fly with an atom bomb, yes.
 
I just did. Why the duh?
 
I thought you were not familiar with that fact. That $\Bbb R^4 \otimes \Bbb C$ is six dimensional is a boring fact then.
 
Oh, ok.
It's three-dimensional over C, right?
 
@Soham How do they define tensor products of vector spaces? I have always done that in the context of modules, so am not familiar with it.
 
@BalarkaSen *3
 
3:48 PM
@SohamChowdhury If you do tensor product over C.
If you do it over R, then it's 6.
 
@BalarkaSen this is nonsense
 
He means R^3.
 
oh, whoops.
 
you can't tensor $\mathbb R^3$ over $\mathbb C$, because $\mathbb R^3$ is not a complex vector space. what you mean to say is that the result, considered as a complex vector space, is 3-dimensional.
 
Right.
 
3:49 PM
yes, that is true. but you can just take an R-vector spaces isom to C.
 
That's what my book did too.
 
$\Bbb R^n\otimes_{\Bbb R}\Bbb C$ makes sense
 
i agree that that makes sense. i wasn't objecting to that.
 
"Consider $\Bbb{R^3\otimes_R C}$ as a vector space over $\Bbb C$".
 
i was objecting to 1) the dimension calculations, 2) the words "tensor over $\mathbb C$"
 
3:50 PM
Right.
 
ah
 
But in that case the dimension is 6, right?
 
right, confuzzled 4 with 3.
not good with counting, you see
@Soham as tensoring over R? yes.
 
whoops, meant 3. :P
let's just abandon this example now.
 
again, don't say "tensoring over R" as if it was opposed to "tensoring over C". you cannot write $V \otimes_{\mathbb C} W$ unless $V$ and $W$ are both complex vector spaces.
 
3:52 PM
nods
 
right, true.
R^3 isn't a C-space here.
 
So $V\otimes W$ is defined as the space of all formal linear combinations of $V$ and $W$, quotiented by a certain equivalence relation.
 
ok, that's just what you do with modules.
 
(e.g. $\lambda v\otimes w \sim v\otimes\lambda w$)
@BalarkaSen nice.
 
take the free module over $M \times N$ and quotient by appropriate relations
 
3:54 PM
lol. three different wrong answers, all wrong in the exact same way
 
so I'll be comfortable with the construction, I hope.
 
that said, compute $\Bbb Z/n\Bbb Z \otimes_{\Bbb Z} \Bbb Z/m\Bbb Z$ when you learn tensor product of modules
$(m, n) = 1$
 
Huy
@MikeMiller: I can only see one of them. :(
 
How do you guys write oplus and otimes by hand?
 
Huy
Exactly like they look?
 
3:56 PM
circle with an inscribed plus and a circle with an inscribed multiplication
 
Circle first or plus/times first?
Cursive-ish or not?
 
Huy
plus/times
 
circle first
 
Circle first here as well.
 
Huy
Asians.
 
3:57 PM
who cares
 
@Huy, your name sounds suspiciously Vietnamese . . . :P
@Mike, sorry.
I should get back to work.
 
Huy
@SohamChowdhury: Shh, don't tell anyone.
 
4:41 PM
@MikeMiller Are you able to see all the deleted answers? It seems like more have been deleted.
 
4:56 PM
3 deleted answwrs
 
Hello @PaulPlummer how is it going?
Hello@MikeMiller
@Mike what I said in the comment for the image question ... Does that work
 
I don't know why you referred to the topologist's sine curve. A much easier curve here would look like a sawtooth. B is not possible as described in one of the answers.
 
After looking at the image what straight away struck my mind was the topologists sine curve
B is not possible because it not being compact right ?
 
5:14 PM
I am doing okay @Rememberme
 
Some linear algebra I never learned: if $T_1^ 1(V)$ is the space of multilinear maps $V^* \times V \to \mathbb{R}$, I wish to find a basis-independent isomorphism $T_1^1(V) \cong \text{End}(V)$. So I guess the obvious map $\text{End}(V) \to T_1^1(V)$ takes $\varphi$ and sends it to the map $(\omega, v) \mapsto \omega(\varphi(v))$. I have some trouble getting the inverse without picking a basis, I suppose I could send the map $F \colon V^* \times V \to \mathbb{R}$ to the map $V \to V^*$ sending
$v \mapsto F(-, v)$. Or, I suppose that is to $V^{**}$, however it sort of feels like cheating given the requirement of naturality. I do lack experience with this stuff, so it could be that everything I'm saying now is silly.
 
I have thought about this in the past. I don't know how to write down the inverse without a basis. But I'm satisfied since my original map was defined basis-free.
That last thing you did sounds reasonable.
 
Yes, its a bijective linear map, so there is an inverse. Whether or not it is the inverse is of less importance for theoretical concerns. Thanks for the help as always.
 
How'd that REU go?
 
Probably not me, unless you're mixing it with a summerschool I went to in June.
In which case: didn't understand much, but got to see some interesting ideas.
 
5:23 PM
Yeah, that second thing.
That's cool. What was the theme?
 
Broadly: Lie groups. The speakers were very different though, the one I liked the best did essentially representation theory with a differential goemetric feel to it.
 
Fairly broad. Was this in Norway? I think I heard about it.
 
Small world. Guy I met at another summer school, Ethan, went to that.
 
Ah, yes, I talked to him.
Asked him whether or not I would get shot if I stepped on someone's lawn by accident in Texas.
 
5:28 PM
Depends on the lawn, no doubt.
Are you Norwegian?
 
Indeed. I did start off with "regarding Norwegian stereotypes about the US..", so I hope the joke didn't come off as too rude.
Yes. (So yeah, Andrew is a pseudonym.)
 
I'm sure he took it in good fun.
 
Yes, I got that impression. Us undergraduates tried to stay rather low, though, as to not show our ignorance.
 
How far into your degree are you?
 
I will start my third year now, which is the senior year in Norway.
 
5:31 PM
(I think everyone there was probably some degree of ignorant - otherwise, why go to a summer school? :) )
So you're applying for schools now?
 
Not yet, I will have to consider what I want to do. If I recall correctly the deadline for US schools are right after new years, right?
 
I suppose so, yeah. It's only been a couple years but I've forgotten the application process.
 
I know I will continue doing math, however there is no pressure in Norway: for masters its not very competitive, and we do not have the integrated masters/phd programs as is common in the US.
 
So you're considering moving?
 
Yes, although it will be troublesome to do the GREs and all that stuff. Will have to travel to take it.
 
5:35 PM
Oh, that's not fun. Less fun than the GREs themselves.
 
Haha, yes. So we'll see, I might stay and try my luck as an exchange student for a semester.
The problem with staying at the same uni all the time is that you do not tend to get as wide a range of contacts which seems to be invaluable in academia.
 
Also exposure to a different academic culture.
 
How's your studies going? In the 'take a lot of hard courses'-period?
Yes, definitely.
 
I technically have to take more courses but that's not a particularly serious requirement. (I have to take four more courses, and I have... four years to do it.) I have an advisor and a project, so right now I'm just reading towards that end.
 
Ah, cool. I'm trying to go crazy on the courseload in this period: I know enough to take reasonably hard courses, not enough to seriously consider any interesting questions.
 
5:44 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean. Has the semester started for you?
 
No, I start work as a TA tomorrow, then after that week there will be a Norwegian tradition of students getting awfully drunk, then the semester will start for real the week after that.
 
That sounds good.
We don't start the fall quarter for another 6 or so weeks. Next week I start TAing for the summer session.
 
Ah, nice. Something similar here, our uni offers a week of recap of highschool math for new students that are insecure about their mathskills.
 
I see.
What are you taking in the fall / what do you intend to study in the future?
 
Commutative algebra, Complex Analysis, Algebraic Topology, Cohomology and Differential geometry. As for the second question: I have no idea, but likely something algebraic in spirit.
 
5:51 PM
That's a hell of a load.
 
Yes, I'm going to suffer. Should be mentioned that cohomology is 5 ECTS, while normal courses are 10 ECTs.
 
an ECT basically indicates how much work you're doing?
 
Yes, it is credits. So a normal semester should be 30 ECTS every semester.
 
Do exceptional students usually take much more than that?
 
Yes.
Although it is also common to take a lot of easy courses, as you have ridiculously much freedom with your degree. I could take seven courses in literature and still get a math degree while not doing more than 30ECTS a semester.
 
5:55 PM
@Chris'ssistheartist can you look at that ? math.stackexchange.com/questions/1382184/… I don't know if you're good at estimating sums though :P
 
I see.
 
@LeGrandDODOM Dominated convergence for series theorem
Q.E.D.
Back in 30-60 min.
 
@AndrewThompson: What are you TAing?
 
Will be TAing Calc1 this semester.
And you?
 
I have probability theory 2. Here's the syllabus. Summer TAing means 2 hours of lecture, once a week, plus office hours and grading.
I'll probably spend Tuesday doing a review of 170A.
 
6:07 PM
Oh. I have actually never done a proper course in statistics or probability,
although I had to have some for measure theory.
 
@Chris'ssistheartist Thanks. It works if you take the limit on $c$ at integer points (unless you have a continous version of the theorem)
 
I took it in undergrad a while ago. They're basically doing measure theory without saying the word $\sigma$-algebra.
This means they only do special examples, like continuous and discrete probabilities, but meh, it's just as good.
 
Yes, I suppose so, if they don't need things to be overly formal that is fine.
I think I'll ask about that identification on math.SE, it is the first exercise in my diff. geo book. I feel kind of screwed if I don't have a proper solution.
 
Can you repeat it again?
Find an isomorphism $T^1_1(V) \to \text{End}(V)$?
 
Yes, a natural one.
 
6:20 PM
And you're sure $T^1_1(V)$ doesn't just mean $V \otimes V^*$?
 
It does, multilinear maps $V^* \times V \to \mathbb{R}$.
 
Here's a map $V \otimes V^* \to \text{End}(V)$: $(v \otimes \varphi)(w) = \varphi(w)v$.
Extend linearly.
 
However, the tensor product is not defined yet. I think it should be doable, however my inverse sends to a map $V \to V^*$.
Sorry, $V \to V^{**}$.
Hm, let me keep that in mind as I write stuff down.
 
OK, so given a map $\varphi: V^* \times V \to \mathbb R$, I guess you're right, you get a map $V \to V^{\ast \ast}$. But there is a natural isomorphism $V \to V^{\ast \ast}$, so invert that.
Ugh.
 
Ah, I suspected $V \to V^{**}$ had to be natural, although I was unaware. I'll play around a bit.
 
6:26 PM
The isomorphism is just $v \mapsto (w \mapsto w(v))$.
I don't think it matters that it would be hard to write down the inverse of this map. The inverse of a naturally defined map is still naturally defined, no?
 
Hm, yes. Although the diff. geo will be a reading course;
I doubt my fellow students will be happy with that.
 
This reminds me of something from earlier: just because you write down the map with respect to a basis doesn't mean it's not naturally defined. Stupid example: the map $e_i \mapsto e_i$ doesn't depend on the choice of basis.
(I think we're misusing naturally. Don't we just mean canonical here? i.e. defined without depending on a basis?)
 
Yes, we are.
 
So the inverse of the map that I defined above, $V \otimes V^* \to \text{End}(V)$, can be defined by picking a basis $e_i$ of $V$ and writing $\varphi \mapsto \sum e_i \otimes e_i^*(\varphi)$, where by that I mean the map $w \mapsto $ the coefficient of $e_i$ in $\varphi(w)$. On account of it's the inverse of a map that we defined without needing a basis, this doesn't depend on the basis.
 
Yes, that does look correct. Thanks again!
 
6:35 PM
Of course, this isn't quite your question, because "bilinear maps $V^* \times V \to \mathbb R$ is probably, like, $(V^* \otimes V)^*$ or something? I'm not sure. But I think you can massage it to working.
 
Yup. Its funny that all this time the thought "it is a linear injection of vector spaces of equal, finite dimension" never popped into my head.
 
Am I missing something, or can we not use $\phi_{ij} = (e_j)^{\ast}(T(e_i))$ and extend linearly?
 
6:50 PM
More than likely, already moved on, but it looks superreasonable.
 
$T \in \text{End}(V)$, of course.
My point being, since you have a single-dual in there, I think you'll need a basis to get it done.
 
For the inverse, yes.
(which is what you are trying to construct.)
 
It seems easier to me to do the reverse iso.
 
@DavidWheeler welcome back pal :-)
 
7:11 PM
@MikeMiller the map $V\to V^{**}$ defines a natural transformation from the identity functor to the double dual functor
 
this is cute (taken from Grothendieck's manuscripts "Pursuing Stacks". it has been TeXed up recently : look in the homotopy theory chat, whoever wants a copy)
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yup, heartwarming :-)
 
@Gato Do you mean this answer?
 
hey skull :)
@anon 'twas my understanding things are not so nice for $V \to V^{\ast}$.
 
indeed
the dual-taking functor is contravariant anywho
 
7:25 PM
so I was thinking you're not going to find a canonical iso. $(V\times V^{\ast} \to F) \to \text{End}_F(V)$, so you may as well use a basis.
 
I think you can
you might have to write the iso using bases, but it's not going to depend on bases
 
That statement I might believe
 
your first thing is essentially $(V\otimes V^*)^*$, which is $\cong V^*\otimes V^{**}$, which is $\cong V^*\otimes V$, which is $\cong {\rm End}(V)$
 
I understand the chain-it's the explicit iso. on the right Andrew wanted.
I can see how to do it with a basis for $V$: write $v \in V$ in that basis, write $f \in V^{\ast}$ in the dual basis, and use that to define the linear endomorphism $T$.
 

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