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9:00 PM
@TedShifrin I came up with it myself, so it should be a bit more challenging than one from an IQ test
 
@Robert I am a math major.
 
Which 5 math classes are you planning to take?
 
adv calc 2, abs alg 2, topology, number theory, num anal 2
im also taking OOP but that's not math
 
@RobertCardona Who is it in the pic?
 
9:04 PM
How did you make it?
 
I updated the picture :P the last one was like 6 or 7 years old
took it on my phone, played with the contrast/color/settings
 
I currently have no pics or pic taking devices with me.
 
How should I recall?
And I would never let one of my advisees take all those ...
 
Yeah, it can lead to burn out really fast. Plus, truly learning the material takes time and devotion, if your taking so many classes, you can only do so much in each.
My second to last semester as an undergrad, I took 4 math classes and 3 programming courses and accidentally slept through the putnam :/
 
quite frankly, number theory and topology are going to be easy having taken abs alg and adv calc already...............................................
C# is going to take some getting used to...
 
9:17 PM
:P
 
@RobertCardona I also learned this the hard way.
 
I'm a C# developer right now
 
The worst semester was where I took 9 advanced undergraduate/graduate courses at once. In retrospect, I can't believe I passed all of them :).
 
wow! that sounds insane! but maybe just a little fun :P
 
@Lord I took 8 courses as a freshman, went out everyday, and only got 1 C out of 3 A's and 4 B's (an A in calc 2!)
 
9:18 PM
I now stick to 2 or 3 courses at a time, and go as in depth as I can on my own. (usually my courses go too slow, so I try to push myself more on the side)
 
I still remember passing out after my chem exam in the bathroom from alcohol intoxication.
(ironically)
(I got an 83 on that exam.)
 
@DonLarynx, C# should be easy for you if you've been doing project euler problems with python. Do you know oop with python?
 
@Robert I've been doing them with C++
 
Oh wow. That sounds horrible ;/
 
@DonLarynx Impressive juggling :).
@RobertCardona This is a cool approach when you know what areas you like most and what you want to focus on.
 
9:21 PM
I remember trying to do some of those in Java, and manipulating large numbers required me to write classes to hold big ints..., then comes python and I get the same thing done in 1-2 lines :)
 
Two things I've never really found out.
 
@RobertCardona Pretty much
 
Number theory is good stuff.
 
I'm taking an algebraic number theory course next semester.
only one I can take :/
 
Oh cool
I know absolutely nothing about that stuff. The semester starts from January and there'll be a course of alg number theory, so looking forward.
 
9:25 PM
@Balarka: How do you go to regular school and still have time in the day to attend university classes?
 
They just let me go, @Ted.
 
Is it close by?
 
Not quite close but not quite far either.
 
Well, that narrows it down.
 
good god I hate this language.
 
9:27 PM
c++?
 
You could switch to Pig Latin, @Don.
 
and, as you know, @Ted, my school is famous for giving long holidays for no reason. :P
 
Yes, @Balarka, so 'twould seem.
 
glove is lovegay in pig latin.
actually I like it better than C# as of right now.
@Robert no, I like C++
 
Heya @MikeMiller.
 
9:29 PM
@Ted @Balarka my college does not begin classes until the 7th :O:O
 
We start the 5th :(
But it'll be my last semester, so I'm ok with it :D
 
Hi @DanielF
 
astfay actfay: Iway illway ebay runkday niway naway ourhway!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Grothendieck was a functional analyst at first.
Sheesh.
He even did his PhD on functional analysis.
 
@RobertCardona How do you cout << endl in C#?
 
9:33 PM
He was big in topological vector spaces too.
Console.WriteLine("")
 
Yay ty
 
Grothendieck has been huge in many, many fields.
 
he sure is
 
I applied to a university in Berlin this semester, so if I'm lucky, no more C# for me :)
 
Huy
At which uni are you currently, @RobertCardona?
 
9:35 PM
CSULB in southern california
 
Huy
Why Berlin?
 
@Robert: why isn't new discouraged in C#?
can't I use a vector?
 
The school is supposed to have a nice program in algebraic geometry. Plus, I'd like to spend some time in Europe :)
 
@Robert what does that have to do with using C#?
Oh
brb writing conic sections in C#
 
@Don, what do you mean "use a vector"?
 
9:37 PM
I recall telling you that about Grothendieck months ago, @Balarka.
 
@Robert never mind
 
Huy
Ok. I would have never thought of going to Berlin to study maths, the uni isn't very popular for maths.
 
That's gonna be quite a change, @RobertC.
 
C# is object oriented so you need to create objects as you use them
I'm aware, I've read up on culture shock and all that
 
Huy
LOL
 
9:38 PM
I already speak a few languages and spent some time in central america, so hopefully that will assuage it.
 
Huy
You only need German.
 
I'm aware. I don't speak German yet, so I'm hoping that knowing a few other languages will make learning German easier
 
@TedShifrin you did?
 
Yup, @Balarka. Apparently you were ignoring me when I said things you didn't want to hear :D
 
Huy
Good luck anyways, @RobertCardona.
 
9:40 PM
well, guess i will have to study the rest of simmons then...
 
Romance languages are quite different from German, although if you studied Latin you'll be used to declining nouns, articles, and adjectives, @RobertC.
 
@Huy, thanks!
 
brb
 
Huy
@RobertCardona: Have you ever been to Germany before, to Berlin specifically?
 
Nope!
 
9:43 PM
It's funny that so many European graduate students want to come to the US to study algebraic geometry. :)
 
Huy
I always find it interesting many people apply for jobs or universities in towns or countries they've never been to before. I would never do that.
 
Well, @Huy, you have been overly much a homebody :)
 
@ted, I would have/will apply to US schools if I don't get in. I didn't because I haven't taken the subject gre (well I did, but it was the same semester I slept through the putnam, so I'm not happy with it), and I want to do very well in it.
 
Huy
I don't know, I've been around the world and seen many many places, and some I liked and some I didn't. But I wouldn't make a decision to go somewhere for several years without knowing what's expecting me. I like knowing what's coming.
 
Ah, @RobertC. Yeah, the subject GRE is very important here.
 
9:45 PM
I want to study Daudy's book on introductory Galois theory of Grothendieck after studying algebraic topology properly.
 
Stupid test, IMO. Not as stupid as the regular GRE...
 
It seems interesting, but it's french all over.
 
@Huy: I'm moving across the country to a city I've only visited and have friends in. Much scarier to do this at my age than for you youngsters.
 
Hey @anon
 
Yes! I know! My grades are solid otherwise, I've gotten an A in every math course I've taken in the last 6 years :) Although with grade inflation as it is, it probably doesn't mean much.
 
Huy
9:46 PM
@TedShifrin: I believe that that's even more scary. But at least you've visited it. Would you do that if you've never been there before?
 
@Mike: It's a way of normalizing data. Grades and letters of recommendation are very hard to judge, as there's inflation everywhere and ...
Definitely not, @Huy, and I wouldn't do it if I didn't have good friends there.
But some people do.
 
Huy
+1, that's exactly what I mean.
I could never do that and I find it interesting some can just do it.
 
@Pedro @DanielF: Interesting that this is essentially the question I gave Pedro :)
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: Are you buying a house/flat there?
(or just renting)
 
No, I'm just going to rent. I've owned for 34 years. That's enough.
 
9:49 PM
@TedShifrin That's longer than the time I have lived.
 
@TedShifrin Which did you give Pedro? $\cos \sqrt{z}$?
 
@Ted So you're aure about SD?
 
Huy
Ok. One day I'll buy a place for myself and make it into a wonderful home.
 
Well, my final exam had a power series. I believe it was $\sum z^n/(2n)!$, so, yeah, more or less.
 
@TedShifrin btw, have you seen this?
 
9:50 PM
s/cos/cosh/ then.
 
I've been teaching in one form or another for 40+ years, @Jasper.
@Mike: I'm panicky, but probably sure. I need to call my friends there this next week.
 
@TedShifrin How good I might become if I practiced research on integrals, series and limits for 40 years? :-)))
 
@Chris'ssis: I'm not fond of narrowness in mathematics, so I won't answer.
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@Chris'ssis Do you use American or British spelling?
 
Huy
9:52 PM
@TedShifrin: That's when "no comment" would have been appropriate. ;)
 
@TedShifrin Who is fond of narrowness? It was just a joke. ;)
 
@Ted By the way, I lied. I haven't finished your question.
 
Lots of people are actually fond of narrowness. Just not my taste.
 
@TedShifrin Now you just said that to get 4 stars.
 
Hell, no, @Jasper. But for some odd reason I've gotten more rep points today than in months and months. Perhaps because I actually wrote a few answers. And got mad at someone for giving a complete solution to a homework problem.
 
9:53 PM
@TedShifrin perhaps I am thinking of the wrong thing... what does order 1/2 mean in that problem?
 
order of growth of an entire function, @robjohn.
 
@TedShifrin I used to belong in that collection.
 
hi @Khallil
 
@TedShifrin I think you should go easy. Of course, I belong to the camp of giving complete solutions.
 
@TedShifrin On the other hand, I'm somewhat against knowing just a bit from all. In life one is either expert or not. Do you consider yourself an expert in any math area?
 
9:54 PM
Presumably in parts of differential geometry and complex differential geometry, yes.
 
I meet every day people that know a bit from all areas, but they actually know nothing. I wouldn't like to be like them.
 
But I have always been more proud of my breadth of understanding in different areas.
 
@TedShifrin okay... I was thinking of the wrong thing.
 
Perhaps you think I know nothing. That's fine with me.
 
@Chris'ssis That's no reason to be narrow-minded.
 
9:55 PM
I think it's reasonably standard terminology, @robjohn.
 
@TedShifrin That's great.
 
Just learn everything you can in depth.
 
Some people are messing with the stars in this chat.
 
@BalarkaSen This.
 
@BalarkaSen I doubt that means you're narrow-minded ... (especially because you have no idea how vast is the area of the integrals, series and limits --- just think about elliptic functions and at those related series). Do you wanna see some?
 
9:57 PM
You somewhat are.
 
I almost never star or unstar.
 
@TedShifrin I'm sure it is, but I was thinking of something else
 
May I ask what, @robjohn?
 
However vast integrals series and limits be, it's still puny compared to mathematics.
 
@TedShifrin What to eat for dinner.
 
9:58 PM
I prefer to specialize in mathematics rather than some flimsy branch.
 
LOL @Jasper ... I'm making a loin of pork at my friends' for Christmas dinner tomorrow.
 
And no thanks, I don't want to see any of those integrals @Chris'ssis
 
@TedShifrin I was not sure if it was the order at $0$ or $\infty$ as a polynomial. I figured it was not at $0$ since it is $1$ there. at $\infty$ it grows exponentially
 
@TedShifrin I usually take chicken only for meat.
 
What about duck, goose, pigeon, @Jasper?
 
9:59 PM
Pigeon?
Really?
 
heya @Studentmath :)
 
@TedShifrin I did not realize the order was as an entire function. That's what I get for jumping into a question late.
 
Pigeon tastes good.
 
Heya :P
 
and quail, among others, @Studentmath :D
 
9:59 PM
Never tasted it
 

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