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8:00 PM
@pedro: that would just be $\frac{1}{(1-x^3)(1-x^4)(1-x^5)....}$ then
 
@MathyPerson Yessir.
 
Hmm, @Mathy. I thought the original question said that $P(x)/R(x)$ should be a polynomial. Now I'm confuzled.
 
@pedro: and that is .... R(x)?
 
@Balarka Go do every problem in chapter 1 of Hatcher.
 
Was it $R(x)/P(x)$ instead?
 
8:01 PM
@TedShifrin it was r(x) / p(x)
 
@Mike: There are some hard problems in there.
You lied to me, @Mathy. Tut tut :D
 
@MikeMiller By the way, how do you think Hatcher compares to Bredon?
 
@TedShifrin perhaps a typo
 
@MikeMiller I have to read the damn thing from head to foot then.
 
BBL
 
8:03 PM
There are some nontrivial problems in there which can only be approached from stuff written across the book.
 
@PedroTamaroff i believe r(x) / p(x) is (1-x)(1-x^2), then?
 
Aha.
Or $(1-x)^2(1+x)$.
 
sigh I still have only two upvotes on my veeeery looong answer on Gal(\bar Q/Q)
 
Oh, hush @Pedro.
 
Huy
A proof for what, @PedroTamaroff?
Evening, everybody.
 
8:05 PM
@PedroTamaroff Thanks for the help!
 
hi @Huy
 
@Huy it's only 2 over here
 
It's about 4 am here.
 
Huy
@MathyPerson: 9pm here.
 
You healthy now, @Huy?
 
Huy
8:08 PM
@TedShifrin: A lot more than I used to be. I think it's the vodka.
 
LOL
I did a lot of my grading at school, so I drank less than usual during final-exam grading :D
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: Don't worry. Just a nice pre-christmas dinner with my parents and I had a "Le Colonel" for dessert. That's lemon sorbet with vodka, in case you've never heard of it.
 
No, I hadn't heard of it. Sounds like a fun summer dessert ... I'd prefer a nice tarte for winter :)
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: It is very good for digestion, and I ate a lot, so I preferred that. :D
 
Point taken.
 
Huy
8:10 PM
We have very nice apple pie with vanilla sauce, in winter, in restaurants.
Or apple tart, not sure.
I'm not much of a dessert expert.
 
pie is more American; tart is more European :P
 
@MikeMiller Congratulations on Red Baron. BTW Solstice is already available, any upvoted post or comment.
 
Huy
Oh, ok.
 
@Behaviour: Are you goading @Mike into yet more hats?
 
Hats are hats.
 
8:13 PM
@Behaviour DANG.
 
Did you all know that it should be 'he got his just deserts' and not 'he got his just desserts'?
 
That's a suave hat.
 
I don't believe so, @Jasper. You don't get stranded in the Sahara.
 
@TedShifrin Which is why it's time to look up a dictionary and see for yourself!
 
Oh, and Bill Lumbergh! 5 answers until the end of UTC Saturday (again each needs an upvote; implicit quality requirement).
 
8:14 PM
Interesting, @Jasper. Totally archaic remnant: Deserts here is the plural of desert, meaning "that which one deserves". "Desert" is now archaic and rarely used outside this phrase.
So it's coming from the French ...
<-- owes Jasper an apology.
 
How could I format a code?
I tried it like that code but with no success...
 
@evinda I think there is a code feature on the main site. Oh for math, maybe you could try using the quote feature for code.
 
@JasperLoy I meant here.. Isn't it possible?
 
@evinda In chat? I dunno.
 
indent
    four
    spaces
to get
    readable
    code
@evinda ^^
 
8:22 PM
@DanielFischer So do we have to do it like that?

if (A[j]!=y*A[i]){
   p=position-1;
   l=position-2;
   while (p>=0 and l>=0 and abs(A[l])!=abs(A[p])*y){
             if (p!=l){
                 if (abs(A[l])<y*abs(A[p])) l--;
                 else p--;
             }
             else p--;
   }
 
What is a rational function?
 
Hello, I have a question about this proof http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1071229/expected-time-of-quicksort

Can you explain to me this sentence: "This assumption will maximize the sizes of $S_1$ and $S_3$, and therefore maximize the average time spent in the recursive calls (QUICKSORT($S_1$), QUICKSORT($S_3$)). " ? Why does this maximize the average time spent in the recursive calls?
 
@JasperLoy Hello.
@MathyPerson One that can be expressed as a ratio of two polynomials.
 
@evinda you do not want nested loops for $O(m \log m)$
 
Huy
@JasperLoy: Do you know what proof Chris'ssis was referring to earlier? I read something about Euler but I didn't find out more.
 
8:24 PM
@evinda You are now at the stage where you should compile, fix any errors and warnings until you get a clean compilation, and then run the code to check if it works as it should.
 
@Huy I do not know.
 
@ccorn This is for the subarray where we have negative integers. We just look at it only if we haven't found two elements of which the quotient is equal to y from the array at which we have positive integers, right @DanielFischer ?
 
@evinda Right. Of course you could also do the negatives first.
 
@Behaviour I've got two up voted answers today. Busy Christmas shopping. I'm going to try to get my other three when I get home.
 
@DanielFischer And now we have to check the case when we have y<0, right?
 
8:28 PM
@Ted I know there are some hard problems in there; I did them all when qual prepping.
 
Is the (number of partitions of 0 into an even number of parts) - (number of partitions of 0 into an odd number of parts) = 0?
 
@evinda Right. That case is different, but uses the same basic idea.
@MathyPerson No, it's $1$.
There's one partition of $0$, and that has an even number ($0$) of parts.
 
@DanielFischer So now do we have to have two indices, one at the subarray with the negative intergers and one at the subarray with positive integers, right?
 
@DanielFischer but isn't there only one part (0), so it would equal -1?
 
@evinda Right. And you need two such traversals (if you don't find one in the first). Why?
 
8:32 PM
What does it mean for a $n \times n$-matrix to preserve a quadratic form? Is it simply that $A(q(x)) = g(x)$, where $g(x)$ is of the same form?
 
@MathyPerson No, the parts are by definition positive integers, $0$ can never be a part.
@AndrewThompson More likely $q(Ax) = q(x)$.
 
@Andrew, if the quadratic form is given by $x^\top Ax$, then it should be that your matrix $B$ satisfies $B^\top AB = A$.
 
@MathyPerson If we allowed $0$, every number would have infinitely many partitions, since we could always add more $0$-parts.
 
Which is equivalent to what @DanielF said.
 
Ah, yes, that does indeed make more sense. Thanks, Daniel and Ted.
 
8:34 PM
@Behaviour Thanks, by the way. I'm very happy about my Baron answer; I think the original question was a good question, just hard to read.
 
@DanielFischer Because it can be that a number from the left subarray is at the numerator but it can also be that it is at the denominator, right?
 
@evinda Bingo!
 
Oooh, I just got the necromancy badge :P
I think I owe it all to @Mike.
 
What'd I do to you now?
 
You made me answer a question, for which I received the necromancy badge :P (more than 5 upvotes on a 60+-day old question, or something like that).
 
8:39 PM
What was the question...?
 
the geometric approach to linear algebra question
 
Ah, right.
 
@DanielFischer If we then have A[p]<y*A[r] what index do we have to change? :/
 
@Mike, I see you never answered that $\int x^n f(x)\,dx$ question.
 
Not home yet.
 
8:41 PM
But I gave an upvote to the comment that $L^1$ does not imply $L^2$.
hmm, how do we negate "implies"?
 
$\not\implies$
 
see what I mean, @Andrew? :P
 
The closest I can do on top of my head, although that looks ugly.
Yes.
 
well, @Mike, it's too late — someone gave what I believe is a correct answer.
 
I answered a cute linear algebra quesrion earlier: if $S$ is a finite subset of a (finite dimensional) vector space over an infinite field, there's a hyper plane that doesn't intersect $S$.
($0\not\in S$, of course)
 
8:44 PM
That shouldn't be too tough.
 
That's precisely the proof I was going to write, @Ted.
It wasn't tough, but it was cute.
 
For someone who learned what a hyperplane was a couple of days ago, that looks fun.
No spoilers.
 
Well, don't look up my answer :)
 
@TedShifrin what was the top mark in your probability course?
 
there were a number of high grades, @skull.
 
8:48 PM
Any one get 100%
 
288/320, 270/320, 270/300, 276/320, 265/300
No ... That would be expecting a lot.
I ended up with 11 A's and A-'s out of 29.
 
How many F's?
 
7 D's and F's
and two C-'s (which are equivalent to D's for the major)
 
Not bad.
 
I found the 9 non-passing grades very upsetting. Two were people who gave up on the course ages ago.
 
8:52 PM
Don't see any obviously interesting problems, which is messy, given the time constraint.
 
Huh, @Mike?
 
Need to get three more answers within three hours, @Ted :)
 
well, stop goofing off and answer 'em.
 
Gotta find something worth answering.
 
While driving?
 
8:54 PM
When else?
 
@evinda That depends on which is the negative and which the positive element.
 
Where are y'all driving now, @Mike?
 
I'm home.
 
"Home"?
 
8:55 PM
We didn't find anything whilst shopping.
 
ah, your family's home
 
@MikeMiller Too late anyway, already answered by PhoemueX.
 
It's where the heart is, @Ted
 
uh huh ... ok, I'm outta here for now.
 
Aye, @DanielF, so I heard. It's almost identical to what I was going to write.
 
8:56 PM
Too late to shop now.
 
@MikeMiller, if $V$ is an $n$-dimensional vector space and $S \subset V$ as in the problem, I may still view a hyperplane as a coset of some $(n-1)$-dimensional subspace $K$, correct?
 
@MikeMiller Thought so, otherwise it wouldn't be too late.
 
@AndrewThompson Ah, I was lying. I should have just said $(n-1)$-dimensional subspace.
If you can do a hyperplane, you could just pick one so far out from the identity that it doesn't contain any of $S$.
 
Yes, or simply get a contradiction with finiteness.
(Which is equivalent, I suppose.)
(The next line on my paper now says "Mike was lying, the problem is a tad different.")
 
@DanielFischer What do we have to do if A[p] is the negative element? :/
 
9:00 PM
Good, @AndrewThompson, since that's the truth.
 
@evinda Then $A[p-1] \leqslant A[p] < y\cdot A[r]$, so if we decrement $p$, we don't get nearer to equality. Hence?
 
@PedroTamaroff what is the first thing you are going to do if you become a mod?
 
Ban everyone, I assume.
 
Made it, Ma! Top of the world.
 
@DanielFischer So we have to increment r, right?
 
9:11 PM
@skullpatrol I will ban Mike.
For life.
 
I knew this day was coming.
 
@evinda And what happens then?
 
Hey, wait your turn @MikeMiller I'm first.
 
@DanielFischer Then we will have A[p]<=y*A[r+1], right?
 
@evinda Maybe, maybe not. But from $y < 0$ and $A[r+1] \geqslant A[r]$, we can deduce something.
 
9:17 PM
Btw don't rain on Chris'ssis's parade. It does look nice until the votes are counted @PedroTamaroff
 
@DanielFischer What can we deduce from that?
 
@evinda The relation between $y\cdot A[r]$ and $y\cdot A[r+1]$.
 
Seen any good questions, @Daniel? Decent? Legible?
 
@MikeMiller Not many.
 
Damned holidays.
 
9:28 PM
@r9m you might like to know that I have a very nice proof to the Basel problem. I'd like to know if you find it in some papers. :-)
 
@DanielFischer Could you explain it further to me?
 
@evinda Which is larger?
 
@DanielFischer $y\cdot A[r]$ is larger, right?
 
hello everyone. would anyone like to help with a basic complex analysis problem?
 
Maybe if you post it on main :P
 
9:30 PM
lol
@daOnlyBG people just askaway here
 
@daOnlyBG OK.
 
awesome, thanks
 
@evinda Yes. So decrementing $p$ decreases the left hand side, and incrementing $r$ decreases the right hand side. Then if we have $A[p] < y\cdot A[r]$, incrementing $r$ gives us a smaller right hand side and we have $A[p] ? y\cdot A[r+1]$. There are three possibilities then. We could have $A[p] = y\cdot A[r+1]$, and we're done. Or we could have $A[p] < y\cdot A[r+1]$, then we're closer to an equality, but not yet there. Increment $r$ again. Or we could have $y\cdot A[r+1] < A[p]$, then the
step was too large and we need to decrement $p$ next.
 
so I need to find a function $g(x,y)$ that is harmonic on {$1<x^2+y^2<9$} such that $g(x,y)=1$ when $x^2+y^2=1$ and $g(x,y)=8$ when $x^2+y^2=9$
 
@Mike Your selfish greed is beyond belief!
 
9:34 PM
Believe it, @Ted
3
 
I know what the definition of a harmonic function is, of course
 
@daOnlyBG: Do you know some basic harmonic functions?
 
sure
any function of the form $a+bxy$, where $x,y$ are variables, is harmonic
also, any function of the form $ax^2+by^2$
 
Any that are radially symmetric?
 
that second one?
 
9:36 PM
No, your latter example only works for certain $a$ and $b$
 
ah, okay
hmm
 
I'm not sure, then
 
Hey @Chris'ssis so are you going to email me?
 
There's a very important one, @daOnlyBG: $\ln(x^2+y^2)$
 
9:40 PM
Is it mathematically sound to say that: $ F_{2n}=aF_{2n-2}+bF_{2n-4} = F_{2(n)} = aF_{2(n-1)}+bF_{2(n-2)}$ to try to relate it to $F_{k} = F_{k-1} + F_{k-2}$ (by the way, F is the Fibonacci numbers)
 
@TedShifrin thanks
 
Sure thing 😀
 
@DanielFischer Would it be the same way for n=1, or is that just special for n= 0?
 
what can ya do without that fella
 
Who're you mumbling at, @Mike?
 
9:42 PM
You, re: $\ln |z|$
 
How would I begin to show that $f$ and $g$ being bijective mappings $\implies g \circ f$ is bijective?
I've already shown that $f$ and $g$ being injective $\implies g \circ f$ is injective and that $f$ and $g$ being surjective $\implies g \circ f$ is surjective. Is it as simple as combining the two?
 
Ah, 2-D Gauss's law :)
 
How did you do that, @Ted?
 
Yes @Khallil
 
Huy
@KhallilBenyattou: Yes.
 
9:44 PM
He's on his phone, @KhallilBenyattou
 
@KhallilBenyattou Yes, it is as simple as combining.
 
No, he's definitely not, @Mike
 
So I'd just say that $f$ and $g$ being injective and surjective $\implies g \circ f$ being bijective and that'd be the end of my proof, @DanielFischer?
 
iPad then
 
@MathyPerson Sorry, I don't understand what you're aiming at.
 
9:45 PM
Waiting for the physics, @Khallil 😛
 
anyway if $ln(x^2+y^2)$ is harmonic,
 
@KhallilBenyattou Yes.
 
I probably need to find some a,b to make that work, no?
 
Thanks all!
(The physics is coming, @Ted! I got sidetracked by functions. ^_^)
 
would I look for $ln(ax^2+by^2)$?
 
9:46 PM
Yes, @daOnlyBG. Shouldn't be so hard.
That's not radially symmetric!
 
No, that'll mess it up ... Try the chain rule
 
Probably not harmonic either, but I deleted to be safe.
 
hm
 
@TedShifrin Try the chain rule to find the right harmonic function for the problem?? Too much work
 
You want to preserve radial symmetry, @daOnlyBG
No, @Mike, to see it messes it up.
 
9:47 PM
ok, let me think a little more
 
You might be thinking too hard
 
nods
 
I decided to be blue again.
 
do I literally let $g(x,y)=ln(x^2+y^2)$, perhaps multiplied by some scalar $c$?
 
Partly, @daOnlyBG
 
9:49 PM
Well, $c\ln |z|$ spits out $0$ for $|z| = 1$...
 
right
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis Basel problem ?! I have seen a couple of proofs :) !
 
if $g(x,y)=ln(x^2+y^2)=1$ when $x^2+y^2=1$, then we need $g(x,y)=ln(x^2+y^2)+1$, no?
 
Get ready for a good one @r9m :-)
 
r9m
@skullpatrol :-)
 
9:52 PM
@Mike: You need to learn to be patient and give only slight hints.
 
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I didn't see his hint- I'm trying to figure it out. I know this shouldn't be too hard or anything, I just haven't done complex analysis in a while
 
Or you can be a popular teacher and give everything away and give all As 😁
 
but am I on the right track? am I essentially just looking for some $a \cdot ln(x^2+y^2)+b$?
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: You can also be a popular teacher not by giving everything away and all As, right?
 
9:54 PM
Yes!!
 
Today's questions are crap.
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: Where?
 
I wouldn't know, @Huy
 
I need something to answer, @BalarkaSen, and there's nothing there
 
Hahahaha! Blunt and to the point, @Balarka!
Are there loads of integral questions or something? =P
 
9:55 PM
@TedShifrin was that "Yes!!" directed toward me?
 
Huy
Yes!!
 
Yes @daOnlyB
 
No, @Khallil, there's nothing at all
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen Nah man ... there were a couple of good ones around noon ... rest of the day I didn't find anything interesting :(
 
@r9m Which noon? Local or UTC?
 
9:56 PM
I only answered two of 'em @Mike
 
I've got two more UTC hours and two questions to answer. Didn't get any the first hour; someone just upvoted one I did earlier todya.
 
r9m
@DanielFischer Local ..
 
I need 5 for a hat.
 
Nothing at all? So all the questions aren't interesting, @Mike?
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen hmm .. my thoughts throughout the day :P
 
9:57 PM
Hats are making this place worser and worser.
 
They're either not interesting or they're in fields I can't work in, @KhallilBenyattou
 
user134177
hi
 
Just unignore me @Ted. It'd be a better place.
 
@TedShifrin No, it's the holiday season that's doing it for once :P
 
hi @blondblau
 
9:57 PM
@TedShifrin Plusungood and plusungooder?
 
thank you very much @TedShifrin and @MikeMiller. I got it from here
 
Like what, @Mike?yes @DanielF
 
How many UTC hours are there before Sunday?
 
@Ted No questions because everyone is having too much fun
 
sure thing, @daOnly
 
9:58 PM
Two, @Balarka
 
Holy crap.
 
r9m
:P lol
 
And I've yet got three questions to answer to.
 
user134177
my boyfriend broke up the relationship =(
 
@DanielFischer I meant: Does the ( number of partitions of 1 into an even number of parts ) - (number of partitions of 1 into an odd number of parts) = 1?
 
9:59 PM
@MathyPerson Trivially yes, because there's only one partition of 1
 
You came to the right place @blondblau ;-)
 
user134177
now he is my ex-boyfriend
 

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