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10:00 PM
@Ted @Balarka hello
 
@Chris'ssis You shouldn't worry so much about mistakes. I leave most of mine up (as long as they don't mislead someone later, in which case, I may edit them)
 
@ted Regarding Dieudonne's books, although he does calculus in Banach spaces, his manifolds are not Banach manifolds, but Lang resolves this, lol.
 
@Studentmath!
 
Yeah, @Balarka, I'm pretty sure that guy's still in Russia. It seems he has published books on differential equations, etc. Definitely not my colleague.
 
@robjohn There is an amazing fact here though... The work by hand shows the impossible result $$\frac{1}{\pi}\int_0^{\pi/2} \frac{x}{\sin(x)} \ dx=2 \frac{G}{\pi}$$ and this is also confirmed by Mathematica. Why?
 
10:01 PM
@Studentmath !!!
 
@TedShifrin Differential galois theory, I presume...
 
No, @Balarka. @Studentmath, I should send you my problem set for this coming week.
 
Will love to check it out!
 
There is a survey of DGT by Khovanskii at the back of the book, that's what made me guess.
@Chris'ssis $\pi$s cancel out
 
Had a test today. Felt really great, came back home to realise I messed (only) one of the questions a bit. Was annoying, but at least the grade should be good
 
10:02 PM
@Chris'ssis Ah, now that looks cool... why not leave out the division by $\pi$?
 
The most annoying thing is that I got precisely the right way to do it as I was driving home, hate when that happens
 
@Chris'ssis I think I can do that one...
 
@Ted what will it be about, this coming week?
 
@robjohn I mean that series equals that integral, that's why I put $\pi$ there according to a certain approach.
 
Just sent it to you, @Studentmath. Doing binomial and Poisson random variables this next week, but the fun problems are expectation.
 
10:04 PM
@Chris'ssis you mean the divergent series?
 
@Chris'ssis That means some kind of regularization happens
 
@robjohn Exactly! Mathematica shows the same and confirm my work done by hand.
 
@Studentmath: You should definitely not do math while you drive.
 
Oh, got it. Will take a look!
 
@BalarkaSen Perhaps.
 
10:05 PM
@Chris'ssis Probably by adding a parameter you can come up with a rigorous inequality.
 
I was in a bus, so I wasn't actually driving. But I could be driving just as well, I always think of the problems as I go automatic on the high way. Probably stupid.
 
I just answered a lhf.
 
You need a guess for what the parameter would be and where it should be.
 
Hope you don't daydream math while you're in combat, @Studentmath :D Well, actually, I hope you're never in mortal danger.
 
haha @Ted I hope I am never in danger eitherway
 
10:06 PM
@robjohn Use the Gamma reflection formula
 
Indeed .. but doing math while you drive 160 kph on the freeway is not smart. Even 120 kph.
 
Seems to resemble the gamma integral in here
 
@robjohn that makes me think of the soul of Riemann zeta function, $\zeta(0)$ :-)))
 
Ohh A. is about that fun problem we discussed
 
Triple integral?
 
10:07 PM
Sadly the freeways here are usually around 90 kph, but yeah
 
@Chris'ssis $\zeta(0)$ is no regularization.
 
Right, @Studentmath, A. was the solution you came up with, so I stole it :P
 
It's an absolute rigorous analytic continuation.
 
@BalarkaSen Do you know exactly what is in my case? I don't know ...
 
@Chris'ssis I have a nice solution to the integral :-)
let me write it up
 
10:08 PM
@Chris'ssis I should guess a regularization.
Not sure
 
I actually was force-fed the method of "if it's too difficult, try using indexes" by my course's teacher, so it's kind of stolen from her
 
Nice finds, by the way @Chris'ssis
 
@robjohn I also have a nice solution to that one somewhere ... :-)
@BalarkaSen Thanks.
@robjohn What would be the meaning of that result?
 
I haven't told them "indicator function" yet ... just can't do everything, and so many of them are lost as it is :(
 
sigh.. I have to go out to some certain place tomorrow morning and I am still awake. I think I'd cancel the plan/
 
10:10 PM
aren't you supposed to be in school, @Balarka?
 
Isn't it in the book just before binomial distribution?
 
@TedShifrin Holidays.
 
ah @Balarka
 
@Balarka you too? What are you celebrating?
 
he mentions it briefly, @Studentmath, somewhere along here, but doesn't do much
 
10:10 PM
something very petty @Studentmath
and not related to math
 
very little in the world is related to math
 
@Ted I think I will try to do C. once again when I have time this weekend, will refresh my calculus a bit. Only skimmed through the idea last we talked about it
 
Extra holidays are chillin'. That's what I love about this school.
LOLOL
 
well, @Studentmath, I credit @Pedro with getting me on track for that proof.
 
@Chris'ssis the meaning?
 
10:12 PM
Better enjoy this while you can, @Studentmath. Next semester I'll be sending you differential geometry to learn :D
 
It really takes it to an interesting path
I always wanted to :P Wonder if I shall have the time
 
@robjohn Yeah, I was wondering why things happen like that and I get that strange result.
 
Maybe the lectures will end up on YouTube. Don't know yet, @Studentmath.
 
Oh wait. Sure I will, only three courses next semester.
 
LOL, only three ...
 
10:14 PM
Unless, I never know when the semesters start and end in the US.
 
January to beginning of May ...
 
I took 5 this spring, 3 this summer, than another 3 this fall and I am done.
 
And you're still a young teenager, @Studentmath.
 
Should I even try to apply to Harvard? Just a random thought.
 
10:15 PM
Oh, it's the fall semester here. But well we start.. 2 months earlier
And still don't know even close to what I want to know by now :P
 
unless you score top marks on the GRE and have incredible letters of recommendation, @Jasper, um, no.
 
@TedShifrin i know i'd score sad at GRE
 
I didn't get into Harvard, @Jasper, with all sorts of grad courses, good recs, and a perfect GRE score.
 
@TedShifrin It's sad. I often wonder how I would do if I did not go mad.
 
@Balarka only 3 were math, the other 2 were databases something about Java that I still don't really get
 
10:16 PM
The pressure of being at a top-5 to top-20 school is considerable.
 
@Studentmath yuck CS
 
Anyway I really like the UCSC first year courses but I know I should not be looking at that @ted
 
@TedShifrin what about ENS, say?
 
I don't know the European system at all, @Balarka.
 
ah
ok
 
10:17 PM
@Balarka databases was actually nice, I was just shocked at how they treated their proofs at times but otherwise it was nice
 
yuck databases
 
OK, time for me to cook dinner.
 
@TedShifrin The phrase?
 
no, @Balarka ...
Bubye.
 
Ah, well, you'll soon forget about it.
Byes
 
10:19 PM
@Ted all the questions you chose look great by the way, I really like 24 from Chapter 4!
See you
 
@Studentmath Chapter 24, you mean?
4!
 
Maybe I should apply to Germany or France instead, lol. But I don't know if I can get funding there like in the US
 
@Balarka $\Gamma(5)$
 
Yes, I should find out more about grad schools in Europe...
 
The new educational system in here kicked out transformation geometry from the syllabus
So sad. They can't possibly defy something that goes from the generation of Klein
In fact it was Erlangen Programme I think
 
10:28 PM
I better catch some sleep, night @Balarka @Jasper
 
@robjohn last year I attended this integral that is somewhat similar to the previous one
@robjohn of course, now it seems to me extremely easy.
 
@Chris'ssis I just found two of my old answers that make that integral easy...
 
@robjohn Where?
 
@Chris'ssis Let me write it up a bit...
 
@robjohn OK
 
10:41 PM
$$
\begin{align}
\int_0^{\pi/2}\frac{x}{\sin(x)}\mathrm{d}x
&=-\int_0^{\pi/2}\frac{x}{1-\cos^2(x)}\mathrm{d}\cos(x)\\
&=-\frac12\int_0^{\pi/2}\left[\frac{x}{1-\cos(x)}+\frac{x}{1+\cos(x)}\right]\mathrm{d}\cos(x)\\
&=\frac12\int_0^{\pi/2}\log(1+\cos(x))\mathrm{d}x-\frac12\int_0^{\pi/2}\log(1-\cos(x))\mathrm{d}x\\
&=\frac12\left(2\mathrm{G}-\frac\pi2\log(2)\right)-\frac12\left(-\frac\pi2\log(2)-2\mathrm{G}\right)\\[6pt]
&=2\mathrm{G}
\end{align}
$$
 
@robjohn Nice.
@robjohn I derived in one of my proofs the series of $\log(\tan(x))$ that is useful here.
 
@Chris'ssis that would work since $\log\left(\frac{1+\cos(x)}{1-\cos(x)}\right)$ is equal to $2\log(\cot(x/2))$
 
@robjohn Yeap.
 
@Chris'ssis Nice integral anyway
 
If Chris's sis is Superman, then I am Wonderwoman, lol.
I will go to bed in 1 hour.
I had a haircut today.
You put a ten dollar note into the machine, get a ticket, and wait, lol.
 
11:02 PM
@Chris'ssis The closest I can find on the site to that integral, is this question, which is not nearly as interesting.
 
What is the hardest part about learning Russian? Is it the alphabet?
 
I wonder what proof @TedShifrin was talking about.
 
Maybe he is talking about the movie Proof, lol.
@PedroTamaroff You must watch If I Stay, best movie ever.
 
Hi @Pedro: I'm assigning that beta function problem about quotients of binom coeffs this week.
 
11:17 PM
@TedShifrin How was your dinner?
 
@TedShifrin Cool beans.
 
@PedroTamaroff Maybe he had beans for dinner, lol.
 
11:37 PM
@robjohn @anorton @AlexanderGruber: Please get this guy removed once and for all. I've had it with his rudeness. This is just too much.
 
@TedShifrin That is too much.
@TedShifrin Is he a professor somewhere?
 
No.
 
@TedShifrin He seems to be a professor turned bartender, lol.
But that's just a guess from google.
 
@TedShifrin You mean that $B(x,y)=\Gamma(x+y)/\Gamma(x)\Gamma(y)$.
 
@TedShifrin That is not rudeness. That is evil.
 
11:51 PM
Never a professor. Repeated postdocs/instructor posts. Any wonder?
@Jasper: Presumably his version of homophobic slam.
 
@TedShifrin LOL.
HE MAD.
He said "Fuck the community."
 
@Pedro: I assigned just the induction for integers.
 
@TedShifrin AGH WhY
 
Why is the whole answer removed now? LOL
 
Why not all the fun of sphericall coords?
 
11:53 PM
I flagged his personal attack on me. Duh.
 
Maybe his answer is wrong, lol.
@TedShifrin But that is different from removing an answer.
 
@WillHunting That's because HE BE MAD.
 
@PedroTamaroff I am also mad, lol.
 
I didn't ask for his misleading answer to be removed. I wanted to clarify that he and the OP were both confused. shrug
 
@WillHunting Why?
 
11:54 PM
@PedroTamaroff Mad as in crazy.
 
@WillHunting Yeah, but that's no news.
 
I wonder whether the whole world knows I am mad now.
@TedShifrin I think he deleted it in his anger, lol.
 

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