The Bridge

It really sucks the gorilla had to die, it really does, but itwouldn't be a decision they made lightly. They had to decide between the chance to preserve the life of the gorilla, and the risk to the kid.

fredley

@twobugs What I don't get is why the hell they didn't shoot it with tranquilizers the moment the kid got in?

Those things kick in within a few seconds

Unionhawk

They said it would have been about a minute

two bugs

@fredley Probably weren't prepared

fredley

2:12 PM

You kind of wonder why they didn't have a protocol

Unionhawk

@fredley They did

They literally did

two bugs

If they could have tranq'd the gorilla immediately that would probably be best

fredley

OK I'll stop talking now

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk I heard it can take up to 10 minute

two bugs

But that would require people on duty at every station alert the whole time

And even then, it's probably not guaranteed

fredley

2:13 PM

Could have knee-capped it

Unionhawk

They got there within 10 minutes, and ruled out tranqs as an option because he was agitated and had the child in his possession

Wipqozn

@twobugs There concern was that the tranq could enrage the gorilla, and since it takes a lengthy time for it to kick in, the gorilla might hurt the child during that time, even if by accident.

Unionhawk

He wasn't attacking him or anything, but it was a situation where he's a giant gorilla, he's just doing normal gorilla things, which is automatically 6 times more intense than normal people things

two bugs

True, but potentially responding as soon as the child entered the enclosure could have partially mitigated that? It's not feasible for various reasons

I just feel like people are way more involved in this than the dentist who poached the lion last year or whatever

Unionhawk

The Cincinnati Zoo is pretty large

two bugs

2:14 PM

Despite the fact that was objectively worse

Unionhawk

Yes

Infinitely yes

fredley

@twobugs You're objectively worse

two bugs

People made the argument "well trophy hunting is okay if it gives the reserve enough money to save more animals" which is fuct but I can understand it

Unionhawk

But this was life or death

two bugs

However, from my understanding, this was poaching. The dentist hadn't "bought" the "right" to end the lion's life

This was to save a child, not for funsies

Unionhawk

2:16 PM

And anyone who questions that doesn't understand that a silverback gorilla can take a coconut and crush it with one hand.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Restore Carpenters Workbench Skyrim Hearthfire

Through various mods I've managed to glitch hearthfire up, earlier when I built the house nothing appeared and the quest was stuck, I fixed that but now so things appear when I build them but now the quest is telling me to build the components i've already built. The problem is I've already built...

Yuuki

Gorillas are srsbsns.

Unionhawk

And like I said, no, the child was not under attack, but he was in life-threatening danger.

two bugs

There's evidence that a lot of the pound per pound strength of gorillas and chimpanzees has been exaggerated. But you still have to realize that even female gorillas, who are significantly smaller than male gorillas, are like 150+ lbs

Males get up to 300-400

Yuuki

If the child was under attack, he'd be under attack for about half a second and then dead. You don't wait for "under attack" in this situation.

two bugs

2:17 PM

So even if they aren't superdupermega strong per pound, they still have a huge body mass

I wonder if Trump will weigh in on the gorilla situation

He'll probably find something disgusting to say

Yuuki

"I'll build a wall around the zoo and make the gorillas pay for it!"

Unionhawk

I'm glad PETA didn't say anything about the shooting, just about the fence

Since those clowns run kill shelters

That would be ultimate pot kettle

@Yuuki There is maybe a case for a secondary fence

shrug

two bugs

The thing about kill shelters is you can argue that by killing "unadoptable" animals they can make room for other animals. But it's not like killing one "unadoptable" animal makes room for 2-3 others. It's just 1 for 1.

PETA is quite fuct

Unionhawk

iirc the rates of what they consider "unadoptable" is pretty disproportionately high

Yuuki

I'll have to look it up (so take it with a grain of salt), but I remember there being cases/anecdotes of PETA going into peoples' properties, snatching up any pets on the premises, and immediately scheduling them for "putting down".

Unionhawk

2:24 PM

Yeah

ardaozkal

sigh. someone went ahead and downvoted 3 of my answers today :/

two bugs

There's also how PETA is strongly anti-animal byproducts, but IIRC a few of their ranking officers use insulin. Which is hypocritical.

ardaozkal

all around same time, so I guess someone doesn't like me enough to go on a small downvote spree

Unionhawk

@twobugs I mean, but that's a pretty different ballpark

two bugs

Meh, I've been kicking around an Overwatch question for a while. I might as well ask it. If it has problems I'll figure it out

Grace Note

2:25 PM

...thinking about PETA just makes me think of those Mario and Pokemon games they made

Unionhawk

Oh right they did a thing like that

And it was obnoxious and whatnot

two bugs

@Unionhawk Not exactly. Insulin is manufactured via animals. They're explicitly against even using animals for testing or health reasons.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Can the RNG be reliably manipulated for better item drops?

I have been playing offline, and have started the perilous grind for covenant offerings. I read on here (see revision 38, it has since been removed and I can't link to it directly) that changing one's equipment periodically may help improve one's chances for obtaining items. I also saw some murmu...

dark-souls-3

Sterno

@twobugs I'm pretty sure that these people immediately lose their argument if you simply watch the video of the gorilla dragging the kid around, and read that the kid went to the hospital in serious condition afterwards. Even if that was the gorillas intention, it was still hurting the kid.

Unionhawk

And can you imagine if they tranqed him and then the child got killed?

This shit would be even worse

It was a no-win, and a tragic outcome either way, but ultimately safety of zoo patrons comes above protection of animals, though you try to keep those interests from conflicting at all costs

GodEmperorDune

2:34 PM

@twobugs i am very serious in this matter. i think you'll make a good mod if you want to run.

@fredley well yeah but i can't make a virtualenv unless the command line can find the proper python

Unionhawk

I think the confusion came from the fact that you aren't ever serious about anything

Kevin van der Velden

Also that he has a pug in his avatar. Pretty sure that's confusing

As in: Why would you?

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk well better unserious than wrong, i suppose

@KevinvanderVelden FITE ME IRL M8!

Sterno

Quote of the day from coworker: "I mean, it's slightly uncomfortable in the butt, but not a pain in the butt"

3

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno wat

Grace Note

2:37 PM

...they made a "Super Tofu Boy"?

Kevin van der Velden

@GraceNote was it PETA?

Grace Note

Naturally

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno that's a pretty good quote

@Arperum did you listen to the new leaves' eyes song yet?

fredley

@Sterno I need to find an opportunity to use that

two bugs

@Sterno What what?

GodEmperorDune

2:39 PM

@twobugs (in the butt)

fredley

@GodEmperorDune I said what what?

two bugs

Hm, what cereal should I buy at Costco

Kevin van der Velden

None

two bugs

Lately I've been eating either this Kashi stuff (which is not bad and probably healthy but the packs are small) and Cinnamon Toast Crunch (I bet @Sterno doesn't even know why kids like me enjoy this cereal)

@KevinvanderVelden Not an option!

Grace Note

Isn't the choice less dependent on where you're buying from, and more, what is there that you actually like?

Kevin van der Velden

2:41 PM

@twobugs buy bacon instead

Sterno

@twobugs Chocolate-frosted sugar bombs

Kevin van der Velden

Bacon is the best cereal

Sterno

fredley

@Sterno wat

Unionhawk

If you think that's science going too far, then you haven't seen this:

fredley

2:44 PM

brb

Yuuki

If there's anything on the breakfast table that's "science gone too far", it's your average glass of orange juice.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: What strategies are most effective for Symmetra turret placement?

Symmetra is an interesting builder character in Overwatch. Rather than one beefy turret like Torbjorn, she places many smaller turrets (up to 6 at once!). The turrets are very weak, though - one hit will kill them. To effectively use these turrets, you have to satisfy two criteria: 1) They need ...

overwatch

fredley

Yup, they have maple bacon

two bugs

@Sterno I don't think costco carries this

They only carry a few cereals

Yuuki

In order to maximize production and distribution, they extract so much out of of normal orange juice that the process actually removes the flavor.

Unionhawk

2:46 PM

@Yuuki I dunno, donut cereal is pretty up there

fredley

@Yuuki I've stopped drinking juices

Yuuki

Most orange juice producers also work with perfume companies to artificially re-introduce the orange juice flavor that you're used to.

Unionhawk

Like, I could accept cookie cereal, but donut cereal is where I'm drawing the line

two bugs

@Yuuki No

NOOOOO

That's scary

Yuuki

> Juice companies therefore hire flavor and fragrance companies, the same ones that formulate perfumes for Dior and Calvin Klein, to engineer flavor packs to add back to the juice to make it taste fresh. Flavor packs aren’t listed as an ingredient on the label because technically they are derived from orange essence and oil.

fredley

2:48 PM

Yuuki

> Yet those in the industry will tell you that the flavor packs, whether made for reconstituted or pasteurized orange juice, resemble nothing found in nature. The packs added to juice earmarked for the North American market tend to contain high amounts of ethyl butyrate, a chemical in the fragrance of fresh squeezed orange juice that, juice companies have discovered, Americans favor.

Yes, the flavor is still derived from oranges, but that's just freaky.

two bugs

@fredley What has Science done

ardaozkal

No comment: Someone lying about how they have cancer for karma

two bugs

I was worried my Symmetra question would suck but I already got a great answer

ardaozkal

that sub has weed theme, be warned

two bugs

2:50 PM

I guess the moral is "If the question is good, stop fretting and just ask it"

fredley

@twobugs worse than that

Unionhawk

@twobugs I think the way you asked it is fine yeah

Like, "what are all the good sentry spots" would have gotten you too broad votes

two bugs

@fredley "Why does Michael Bay get to keep on makin' movies..."

"I guess Pearl Harbor sucked / Just a little bit more than I miss you..."

Unionhawk

Because people pay to see Michael Bay movies

Next question

two bugs

For as much as I dislike Matt Stone and Trey Parker they're quite good with songs

> Accused Texas killer posts photo of murder on victim's Facebook

NOPE

GodEmperorDune

2:53 PM

@ardaozkal well yes, its /r/trees

@Yuuki butbut i am too lazy to squeeze it myself!

fredley

@GodEmperorDune Blender. Just peel and blend

Unionhawk

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Ahhh, classic.

GodEmperorDune

@fredley i want orange juice, not orange puree

seriously though, fresh squeezed is so good that all other orange juice tastes terrible to me now

these are my first world problems

two bugs

The best part is as I was about to comment to ask the answerer to summarize the link, they did

fredley

2:56 PM

@GodEmperorDune Tropicana is awful

two bugs

I've only had Tropicana. I am an orange juice pleb.

GodEmperorDune

@fredley we accidentally bought the low calorie tropicana once. it was horrendous

Unionhawk

@twobugs Nice

I was about to -1 them for that

But now I see I don't have to

fredley

@GodEmperorDune ugh

@GodEmperorDune Aspartame from real oranges!

two bugs

The formatting stinks, or at least did when I last checked so I may edit it to have reasonable formatting

GodEmperorDune

2:58 PM

that was a sip, spit, pour down the drain kind of process

two bugs

I guess it's not that bad since it's a big old block o' text

Yuuki

I've recently started getting on-the-spot squeezed orange juice from HEB (Texas-based supermarket chain). Doesn't preserve for nearly as long, but tastes great.

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs you gotta fresh squeeze or go to a hippie place that fresh squeezes it for you. its only good if it won't last more than a day in teh fridge

@Yuuki hivemind

Yuuki

HEB is most definitely not what I'd call a hippie place though.

fredley

@GodEmperorDune Hip-ster. Hippies were 50 years ago.

Unionhawk

3:01 PM

I don't think any hippie or hipster places exist in the state of Texas

Yuuki

It's essentially (much) higher-quality Wal-Mart that only exists in Texas.

fredley

@Unionhawk Austin

Unionhawk

I think hipsters were outlawed by Ted Cruz in 2012

@fredley the last hipster stronghold of Texas

two bugs

I thought Ted Cruz only outlawed people who weren't the Zodiac Killer

So... everyone except for himself

Unionhawk

Conveniently split into 6 congressional districts that also include deep red territory in order to ensure that texas remain a red state

two bugs

3:02 PM

RE5 for PS4/Xbone coming soon? That's nice I guess...?

Unionhawk

Oh man, Citra High release week

Oh man

two bugs

I don't even know what that is. Some boy band?

I think that's what kids your age are into

I'm probably just going to get Cinnamon Toast Crunch at Costco. You guys were no help whatsoever.

Unionhawk

Cinnamon Toast Crunch is a Good Cereal

It's what I would have chosen

Yuuki

I don't do cereals for breakfast, so I wasn't going to give good advice in the first place.

I do get muffins from Costco though.

two bugs

I just like cereals because they're easy and quasi-healthy

Unionhawk

3:13 PM

@twobugs I was going to do a feeling lucky lmgtfy query that would have given you a lmgtfy query of "citra high"

It didn't work

It searched for the letter q

But it's a local beer release

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk "This message brought to you by the letter Q"

two bugs

Did you preorder your local beer at Brewstop for the free DLC?

Unionhawk

No

So I might miss out since working

But hopefully I can at least get a growler fill even if I can't get a 4pk cans

two bugs

Is there going to be a midnight release? You should make sure the beer servers don't crash

Unionhawk

@twobugs It's an 11am release

To put this into perspective, Galaxy High cans sold out within a few hours of release.

two bugs

3:17 PM

I guess I can't really keep making fun of this without retreading Clickhole territory and it's a lot less funny when I do that

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Windows Game Controllers: Set "Preferred Device" to "none"

I'm running into an issue with a particular game after I set a game controller as "Preferred Device" to use with older programs under Windows 10: Control Panel -> Device and Printers -> right click the game controller in question -> select "Game controller setttings" -> click the game controller...

windows controllers

Unionhawk

Like, you joke about this, but it's a real thing. It's crazy what the demand is for these limited releases

two bugs

It's just a fascinating subculture to me

Microbrewing fans are diehards I guess

fredley

@twobugs *insert culture joke*

Yuuki

Something something bacteria.

user4704

3:20 PM

...Petri dishes?

user4704

<_<

user4704

>_>

NEW CGP GREY VIDEO!

Apparently Nintendo changed the Chinese name of Pikachu? There are protests going on in Hong Kong about it

Yuuki

@MBraedley I've always wondered why left brain controls right half and right brain controls left half.

3:23 PM

@MBraedley oh snap

Soldier:76

@MBraedley And it's not a Rebecca Black link!

two bugs

Oh they renamed a lot of Pokemon

MBraedley

@Yuuki I know, it doesn't really make sense, does it?

@fredley Today isn't the end of the work week.

Unionhawk

3:24 PM

It could be if you believed hard enough

It's only Not Friday if you don't believe enough

two bugs

Haha the transliterations of the Chinese Pokemon terms are great

> "Earlier in Hong Kong, it was 寵物小精靈, Pet Little Elves (or Spirits), while in Taiwan, it was 神奇寶貝, Magic Babies.

> "Pikachu was originally translated as 比卡超 (Bei-kaa-chyu) in Hong Kong. Now it is named 皮卡丘 (Pikaqiu). While the name 皮卡丘 in Mandarin sounds similar to the global name Pikachu (as it was always called in China and Taiwan), it reads as Pei-kaa-jau in Cantonese, which doesn't sound the same at all."

I know it's not pronounced like that but I really want to imagine the name was "Pikajew"

fredley

@twobugs I think it was supposed to be Pikavolt or something but the guy sneezed.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: My wife doesn't want to live with me anymore

I married Aela and built a house where we lived for a long time. I have the tendency of taking my wife as a follower on quests. However, one time after I dismissed her she returned to Jorrvaskr and I don't have the ability to tell her to go to my house. I tried telling her to go to Breezehome and...

skyrim skyrim-hearthfire

Unionhawk

aaand skyrim strikes again

two bugs

Well the Japanese name is "pika" (sparking, Onomatopoeia) "chu" (mouse sound, also Onomatopoeia)

Which is pretty brilliant I guess

Private Pansy

3:32 PM

> On Monday (May 30) morning, dozens of Hong Kong protesters marched to the Japanese Consulate in Central

"There are literally dozens of us! Dozens!"

fredley

@twobugs So we'd call it "Buzzsqueak" or something?

SaintWacko

Hello Bridge!

Wipqozn

OH SNAP A KURZGASDASD AND CGP CROSS OVER EPISODE?!

MY DAY IS MADE

SaintWacko

I am home from Cancun

I got very sunburnt on Sunday

Private Pansy

(There is a deeper political issue here, but understanding it would mean taking in 120 years worth of Chinese and colonial history, which is just not worth it)

two bugs

3:35 PM

@PrivatePansy Yeah I was going to say, isn't there a very complex relationship between basically every country in that region?

fredley

@SaintWacko :(

Private Pansy

@twobugs Yes, probably even more than European history

SaintWacko

@fredley Yeah, and I cut my hair very short just a day or two before we left, so even the top of my head is burnt

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy It doesn't help that European history also gets very involved here.

MBraedley

@Lazers2.0 Pretty sure this is a dupe

two bugs

3:38 PM

Ugh reading politics articles... How the hell does Trump do well with poor voters?!

He wants to eat them alive!

MBraedley

@twobugs Lowest common denominator.

two bugs

I just don't understand it. His economic policies would devastate the American economy. He might bring a few manufacturing jobs back, but it would be at significant cost to other sectors

Unionhawk

@twobugs Well, you see, unemployment is clearly as high as 35%

MBraedley

He's secretly trying to bring about the robot revolution

Unionhawk

God I hope so

is a computer engineer

user15026

3:40 PM

@SaintWacko oh ouch

two bugs

The fact of the matter is that robutts destroyed more American Jobs (tm) than Mexicans ever did

MadMAxJr

At least Trump isn't running for moderator of Arqade.

Unionhawk

(also note that I said "clearly" above to indicate "no it isn't but trump claims it is")

two bugs

@MadMAxJr There are still 6 days to declare, friend.

Unionhawk

(if you count all of the people who gave up on looking for a job actively it's 9-ish)

@twobugs He'd need 300 rep

Private Pansy

3:42 PM

@MadMAxJr We'll build a wall around our website. And we'll make Scifi and Fantasy pay for it.

two bugs

@Unionhawk So he just needs to make an account before next Monday

He will easily get that rep with his Hot Network Question titles, which are the best titles

MBraedley

Lunch is too important to pay close attention to chat.

two bugs

@MBraedley Agreed. Time to get some

GodEmperorDune

Cc @Yuuki make food porn great again

Yuuki

MadMAxJr

3:45 PM

We'll build a huge wall to keep the creepers out. #MakeMinecraftGreatAgain

MBraedley

@Yuuki Is that salmon? Looks tasty

Wipqozn

@Yuuki That looks gross

Yuuki

@MBraedley Mhmm. Apparently, it's called "Eggs Norwegian". Almost definitely a reference to Eggs Benedict.

Wipqozn

@Yuuki That too

badp

IIII'M FIIIIINE

EEEEVEN IF YOU THINK I'M NOOOOOT

I AAAAAAAAAAAAM

Wipqozn

3:47 PM

@Yuuki oh it's egg on top?

badp

THIS TIIIIME

GodEmperorDune

@badp the eyes have it

Wipqozn

@badp so, uh, is everything okay?

badp

I'M BEETTTER WITH THE FRIENDS IIII'VE GOOOOT

Yuuki

@Wipqozn Poached eggs, yeah.

ardaozkal

3:48 PM

@Yuuki I2m in love

badp

@Wipqozn why do you ask

does something not look okay

ardaozkal

what are those black and white stuff?

MBraedley

This seems like lyrics to something, but I have no idea what.

badp

I need you to acknowledge that I am fine

ardaozkal

I see peppers

a-are those seeds?

Yuuki

3:49 PM

Probably sesame seeds.

Wipqozn

@Yuuki Okay, it looked like sour cream. Like a pound of it.

And I'm assuming that's not hamburger under the salmon but just a shadow.

In that case that would actually be good

GodEmperorDune

@badp nah you look more granulated to me

Wipqozn

@badp I'm really concerned for you @badp.

Is the reason we're having an election because @badp has finally snapped?

We all knew it was going to happen

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn what they don't have salmon burgers in Canada?

ardaozkal

@Yuuki quick request: no food porn between Jun 6 and Jul 6. Ramadan, y'know.

Wipqozn

3:50 PM

@GodEmperorDune salmon on a hambuger? I hope not. That sounds gross.

Yuuki

ardaozkal

@Yuuki are sesame seeds that big, or are those stuff they are put on small?

Wipqozn

A burger with salmon in place of a hamburger? That sounds good, but salmon + beef? Gross.

ardaozkal

the sesame seems here are pretty small

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn surf and turf, bro

MBraedley

3:50 PM

@Wipqozn I think this is what he meant

At least that's how I interpreted it.

GnomeSlice

GodEmperorDune

All the meats, all the time

MBraedley

@GodEmperorDune And this answer is maybe.

Wipqozn

The moral of the story is now I want chinese food, but I can't get it, because reasons. I blame @Yuuki.

MBraedley

I'm sure someone's done it

ardaozkal

3:51 PM

Oh, I know

turkish food time

MBraedley

@Wipqozn Get takeout for supper.

Yuuki

badp

@Wipqozn I'M FIIIIIINE

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley it was big in Alaska, I figured the neighboring provinces would do something similar

MBraedley

@badp The point is you don't seem fine.

Wipqozn

3:52 PM

@MBraedley I need to be careful with the foods I eat right now, because reasons.

Kevin van der Velden

@badp so @badp, how are you doing?

badp

@MBraedley AND EVEN IF YOU THINK I'M NOOOOOOT, I AMMMMM

Wipqozn

On thebright side I've been losing weight.

MBraedley

@GodEmperorDune We are definitely not a neighbour of Alaska

Wipqozn

@badp Maybe he's singing a song

Unionhawk

3:53 PM

Which one of you broke @badp

Because I'm pretty sure it wasn't me

Wipqozn

or maybe it's an Undertale reference I'm mising. Or another video game?

Kevin van der Velden

@MBraedley meh, alaska, jamaica, close enough (yes I know you don't live in jamaica)

Wipqozn

I am picturing @badp as Woody now, though.

MBraedley

@KevinvanderVelden Or anywhere near Jamaica

SaintWacko

I think we might need to do a factory reset of @badp

He seems to be breaking more and more often

GodEmperorDune

3:53 PM

@MBraedley I don't know the province names, but one of them borders alaska

MBraedley

sudo service @badp restart

6

badp

(what the refrance)

MadMAxJr

sudo apt-get badp-to-english-plugin

ardaozkal

@MBraedley *service

Wipqozn

@badp oh wow finding dory comes out sooner than I realized

RL FRIENDS OF @WIPQOZN GET HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPED

MBraedley

3:55 PM

@GodEmperorDune A territory (which is slightly different, but not in any important ways), Yukon, borders Alaska. And a bit of BC

Wipqozn

Unless it sucks, in which case nvm

badp

ERROR: could not find state, service was probably rebooted. Restoring latest snapshot from 17:47

ardaozkal

yep, just checked, service.

badp

IIII'M FIIIIINE

EEEEVEN IF YOU THINK I'M NOOOOOT

I AAAAAAAAAAAAM

THIS TIIIIME

I'M BEETTTER WITH THE FRIENDS IIII'VE GOOOOT

ardaozkal

Unionhawk

3:56 PM

We might have to reboot the entire bridge

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Remembering the title of a game about alien saving alieness

I'm trying to help someone remember the title of a game based on a description, and I'm asking on multiple forums. It's apparently an old game, runs on Windows XP, with old OpenGL-style graphics, about an alien trying to save his girlfriend. It starts with a comic strip of her being kidnapped. T...