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6:01 PM
@badp i've played around with that, it doesn't work as great as one would hope. sublime text looks phenomenal though
 
And by arbitrary I mean "any one of the six built-in styles"
 
Dear College Democrats who convinced me to register to vote here at the university freshman year: I hate you.
 
@Unionhawk why?
 
they pull jury summons from the registered voter list >_> good thing being a nonresident of the county is grounds for disqualification
 
@GodEmperorDune also it's got support for Python 3 mods — the most prominent of which is packagecontrol.io
 
6:03 PM
I updated my shit, don't worry
 
@AshleyNunn that's how it works.
 
@Unionhawk wat. Y u no murican
 
@Unionhawk That reminds me, I should probably register to vote in my actual place of residence
 
@badp i see that part where you can split the list into lines, edit it, then collapse it. Can you do column based edits without splitting like that?
 
@badp It's not my fault, they asked me if I was a permanent resident of the county. I selected "no", because I am not
 
6:04 PM
@badp "county" != "country"
 
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@Unionhawk funsies.
 
@GodEmperorDune I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean but I'm going to say yes.
 
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@Rapitor I figure it is excellent relationship advice ;)
 
@Unionhawk You get it both ways, too: you're disqualified from jury summons at school, because you're not a resident, and you can't go in your place of residence, because you're far away (or, at least, I was)
 
@Unionhawk Isn't being a full time student grounds for dismissal?
 
6:06 PM
Middle-click-dragging is the fastest way to get multiple carets. Ctrl-D and "Find all" are the others.
 
@AshleyNunn The best part is I was apparently registered in my freshman address, apparently, so the University had to find me and forward my mail
@MBraedley Probably
 
Once you have multiple carets each behaves as you'd expect.
 
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@Unionhawk That's pretty excellent
 
@badp let's say I have some text that is horribly tabbed and needs to be fixed. Can i edit the left side of all the lines at once?
@badp hmm, that is useful
 
@GodEmperorDune select text, ctrl-l (split selection in lines), home, home.
 
6:07 PM
I just hope they delivered it to the room listed, and that person just brought it to the desk like "I don't know who this person is"
 
@badp awesome
 
Now you have a caret at the start of every line after the initial whitespace
 
@badp how fast does sublime boot up to where it's usable?
 
@GodEmperorDune fast. If you have a project/s (= folder/s) open it'll parse them in the background for ctrl-shift-r (finds definitions anywhere in project)
C-S-r saved my life at Google
 
Plus, not being registered for at home means I don't get to cast meaningless ballots against John Boehner
 
6:10 PM
dammit i think this means i need to get it
 
Basically you get much of Vim's power without Vim's modes.
Also a sane plugin interface
I dunno if multiple carets can do everything vim can.
Probably not. But it can still do a hell of a lot.
 
i never learned vim
 
A pretty neat IDE is Brackets and it's free
 
I have officially reached new levels of not giving a s--- in this class.
 
@Yuuki did you forget to fill out the checklist properly? -50 dkp
 
6:18 PM
1 hour ago, by Powerlord
 
@Yuuki why?
 
@murgatroid99 For every programming assignment, we have to do acceptance testing. And I did not do this assignment very well.
 
the hololens stuff is really cool, but the presenter for it is terrible
 
Because I am really fed up with this class.
 
@Powerlord Well sorry for not paying attention to chat. Also, if it isn't starred, it didn't happen
 
6:19 PM
This didn't happen!
 
@MBraedley Yes, I can tell you weren't since the whole subject of IDEs/editors came up because we were talking about Visual Studio Code
 
@Chippies only does js, html, and css, but looks cool otherwise
 
@Powerlord Work takes priority
 
@GodEmperorDune Hm, yeah, I'm not sure if you can add other language support... It does have extensive plugin support, so maybe?
 
Now, if you'd mentioned that Microsoft wrote a stack to compile iOS apps on Windows 10 (Islandwood) or another one to run Android apps directly on Windows (Astoria), I think that was only mentioned in passing so far.
 
6:23 PM
> Extensions can add basic language support – like syntax highlighting and comment toggling – via the LanguageManager API.
> Some languages are built into core Brackets by default (for a list, see languages.json). A small set of these (HTML, JS, CSS) support richer editing features such as Quick Edit, Quick Find Definition, code hints, and Live Preview. Some of those capabilities are extensible for new languages already (see Extending specific Brackets features); others are not ready to support additional languages yet (Language Support Changes lists proposals for making the remaining rich functionality extensible).
 
Anyway, before I had to leave my computer I mentioned I was looking for something to write SourcePawn code in. Right now, I use Notepad++
However, no one has bothered to add new APIs and keywords to it, plus it seems to get confused on some of SourcePawn's language constructs.
 
@Powerlord @badp convinced me than sublime text is better
 
Someone wrote their own code editor for it in C#. However, it relies on proprietary components and won't run on anything except Windows because of it.
 
@Powerlord you could give Brackets a go
it's free, unlike sublime
whatever you choose, it's not gonna have native support for SourcePawn
 
Honestly, if I have to write the code parsing part myself, I might as well just write Eclipse language support.
Also, Eclipse, did I really open a workspace named "bacon" at some point in the past?
 
6:30 PM
@Powerlord if you're using somebody else's computer, no
 
I will say this: On Windows, Visual Studio Code ran for me once, but now the loading screen appears and vanishes almost immediately.
@badp This would be my computer at work.
 
@Powerlord is it sufficiently close to C++ that you could have YouCompleteMe support?
@Powerlord then most definitely
That indeed was the joke.
 
@badp arches eyebrow YouCompleteMe?
Assuming you mean method/variable auto-completion, that's a common enough thing.
The important part is that any intellisense needs to be able to read any inc files users include.
The biggest problem with SourcePawn is that it's based on Pawn. Pawn has a really weird syntax for variable types... because in reality, everything but strings are really a cell_t type (which is an int32_t)
 
It originally was a vim plugin. I have never used it myself. It was a rather common sight at Google
@Powerlord wat
 
@badp Not joking. A float is stored as an int32_t in Pawn.
 
6:35 PM
So far I've always thought it was a humorous misspelling of something else.
@Powerlord typing is overrated
(As in, reasoning on types .)
 
@badp Well, this is intended to be a fast language that runs on Microcontrollers.
No idea why the SourceMod devs thought that would be a good idea for running on a game server.
 
@Powerlord maybe it makes the internal plumbing parts easier to deal with. Plenty of pointers to god knows what
Kind of like Java is Everything Is An Object and as a result Everything Really Is A String.
 
@badp object.getClass() doesn't actually return java.lang.string all the time though
 
Then again, for most Source games, your choices are: C++ with a shitty API (VSP), C++ with a slightly less shitty API (MetaMod: Source), C++ with an OK API (SourceMod Extension), SourcePawn, or event-based Python (EventScripts)
 
6:40 PM
@badp Mmmhmmm. You realize that if you try to print an Object in Java, the compiler calls the Object's toString method, right?
 
whut
 
Something tells me the Python option is much less compelling than it sounds
 
Is that person suggesting that cannabis can cure ebola?
 
@Powerlord yes. That was not the joke.
 
@badp It's... poorly supported at best.
 
6:41 PM
@SaintWacko seems that way
 
I'm dealing with a large enterprisey project where every object is a struct and every field is either a String or another struct
 
@badp i've already explained my coldfusion woes where everything really is a string
 
@badp That would be the project designers fault, not the language.
Oh yeah, I was going to see if there's a way for me to write a persistence context configuration without having to create a persistence.xml file
 
@Powerlord yes. Yes it would.
 
I'm trying to write a Spring web application without having to write any XML.
 
6:43 PM
@Powerlord ugh Spring.
 
Turns out web.xml is completely optional in JavaEE 7 / Servlet 3.0
@badp You don't like Spring?
 
I've been trying to write some "compile-time" sanity checks for Spring XML but falling short and the canonical answer to this is "dude just run it and see if it crashes"
 
Having had to deal with raw JSP and Servlets for a long time, I'm looking forward to next month when I finally can deal with frameworks like Spring and Hibernate again.
 
@Powerlord It's almost as bad as MFC
 
@MBraedley In this case, I'm referring to Spring MVC.
 
6:46 PM
Oh, must have missed the "web" in that
 
Most of that is XML being an overengineered piece of shit though
 
Here's the contents of my "web.xml"
 
@Powerlord to be fair if I had more theoretical knowledge of it other than "if everything crashes on start then somewhere there is a typo in an XML file, good luck" I'd appreciate it more? Also if I could have some very basic compile time guarantees of correctness
 
import javax.servlet.ServletContext;
import javax.servlet.ServletException;
import javax.servlet.ServletRegistration;

import org.springframework.web.WebApplicationInitializer;
import org.springframework.web.context.support.AnnotationConfigWebApplicationContext;
import org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet;

public class ApplicationInitializer implements WebApplicationInitializer {

	@Override
	public void onStartup(ServletContext servletContext)
			throws ServletException {
		AnnotationConfigWebApplicationContext appContext = new AnnotationConfigWebApplicationContext();
 
Most of that is XML being an overengineered piece of shit though
 
6:47 PM
"web.xml" being in quotes because it's actually ApplicationInitializer.java
 
Sometimes spring injections require public setters (hooray for hiding and immutabilty), sometimes they do not (hooray for @Value). Want to get beans from static contexts like utility classes? Sucks to be you
 
Right now, my AppConfig class is nothing but annotations around an empty class. Then again, this is largely a test application so it's not doing any heavy lifting
Meh, maybe I should just write a persistence.xml... easier to change the data source later.
Unlike the servlet list, which I know is going to only be the Spring MVC Dispatcher servlet.
(for now anyway)
 
We're using Spring 3.0.7, too, so essentially the entire spring website is useless to me.
 
@badp That's... pretty old.
 
Also most Spring questions on SO are exceptionally shitty
 
6:53 PM
I think even the Spring MVC project I worked on 3 years ago was Spring 3.1
 
cmon question, get back on the hot questions list... i need my mortarboard!
 
@Powerlord I don't know what causes projects to be stuck behind 3.1 (I've seen a passing reference to being stuck in such a state in an answer)
(I hope no one else here knows what ASAP is, in the context I'm talking about.)
 
@badp i'm sure @GnomeSlice has a fun explanation of that acronym too
 
assoonaspossible
 
bassoon as possible?
 
7:00 PM
i just relized some real shit
 
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Q: Can you add frames to a stop motion (3ds) once you hit done?

Dodo10812I want to do a plant growing with my 3DS XL (not the new one if it matters) but this takes a long time; so will I not be able to do any thing else on it or is there another way?

 
oooooooooook
just shot an enemy outta the map on xcom :D
 
@Lazers2.0 wat
 
@Lazers2.0 In what... flipnote studio or something?
 
@TheAce what?
 
7:02 PM
Flipnote Studio 3D, known in Japan as Moving Notepad 3D (うごくメモ帳 3D, Ugoku Memochō Surī Dī) and originally announced as Flipnote Memo, is a free downloadable animation application launched in 2013 for the Nintendo 3DS. Developed by Nintendo EAD Tokyo, this successor to Flipnote Studio allows users to use three separate layers to create stereoscopic 3D animations, which can be exported into GIF or AVI format. Flipnote Studio 3D was launched with two online communities: Flipnote Gallery: Friends, and Flipnote Gallery: World. The application was released in Japan on July 24, 2013. It was set for an...
 
@GnomeSlice if you launch a uplay game on steam all it does is luanch uplay not the game
 
@badp Abraham Shovels Alligator Poo?
 
Yeah, that's how it's always worked.
 
@GnomeSlice that's fuct
 
all you have to do is click play on the uplay thing
wait a second i pretty sure blood dragon launches right away
 
7:04 PM
@TheAce which is why don't buy uplay games
 
@Chippies Because you have to click an extra time?
 
Part (or all) of the reason I'm hesitant to get Valiant Hearts.
 
That's a bad reason to miss out on playing Blood Dragon
 
@Chippies i bought it years ago
 
@GnomeSlice because I already have steam for drm, I don't want double drm
 
7:04 PM
@djsmiley2k rocket?
 
anno 2070
game won't launch
 
23 hours ago, by Chippies
I recall having beat the pirated version of Watch_Dogs while all the people that bought it couldn't play it, because uPlay servers were overloaded and down for days
 
might restart
 
@TheAce didn't we all say fuck uplay yesterday?
 
@GodEmperorDune shredder yup hehe
 
7:05 PM
@GodEmperorDune yep, exactly around this time
 
1 min ago, by TheAce
@Chippies i bought it years ago
 
@TheAce did it not have uplay then?
 
before i knew how fucked this mess was
@Chippies it did i was just dumb
 
it would be very fucked if it didn't and they added it later
@TheAce oh well, happens to many of us
 
@Chippies i never made it agsin
 
7:07 PM
@TheAce good, you learned :P
 
@Chippies if i want a ubi game bad enough i'll buy it on console
 
oh boy
 
lol
 
oh fucking boy
you guys wanna hear something fun?
 
7:12 PM
sure?
 
trying to play anno 2070
 
and the world has fallen.
that ending was a bit.. :/
 
turns out when i first got it (years ago) i activated it with a different uplay account
how are my chsnces for getting it moved to my current one?
 
> java is like javascript the same way that ham is like hamsters.
8
 
7:15 PM
@GnomeSlice charge your damn phone
 
@TheAce hahaha.gif
 
@Rapitor It's not mine
 
@GodEmperorDune :/
 
image from thechive
 
You aren't aware and you're better off that way
 
7:16 PM
@GnomeSlice i would hope not.
 
these are just the best
 
well I stated with ubi support
nothing to do now but hope i guess
 
@StackExchange Powerlord has whacked Jason Berkan over the head
 
@StackExchange ಠ_ಠ
 
7:32 PM
-1
Q: where do you find the gyros that dawn guard quest

Aztecwarriorthe head leader of the dawn guard want me to gather 2 warriors for him,I got the first guy but the girl asks to find her "just one gyro".

 
@Powerlord My god, he's dead! MURDERER!
 
Dude, just because I made him drop his red rum doesn't mean it was murder.
 
probably not in there but they just added a bunch of new characters
 
@Powerlord you made him drop his rum? THAT'S EVEN WORSE!
 
@SaintWacko i fully agree
@Powerlord
 
7:40 PM
I swear, looking at this code, if you try to code what would normally be in persistence.xml, you can't use container managed connections.
 
Maybe I'm just misinterpreting this
 
gg apple
 
@Powerlord new Broken Age question
pls
 
@GnomeSlice what does a firmware update have to do with hardware going obsolete?
 
7:44 PM
@GodEmperorDune pretty sure he's talking about the software
did you read it?
It's short. You should read it.
 
@GnomeSlice yeah i did
 
The last straw came when he launched Avernum 2, which was developed and tested on iOS 8.2. A few days before its release, iOS 8.3 was launched and triggered a string of catastrophic breakages.

“I couldn’t find a way to work around the problem, and, even if I did, I couldn’t release the game in good conscience. For all I knew, 8.4 would break everything, or 8.5, and I couldn’t be sure that I could always fix the code, as Apple is determined to make me use entirely new code.”
 
he said the 8.2 to 8.3 update broke a bunch of stuff in his game
 
As that guy at Microsoft said over and over again, backwards compatibility was the main reason Windows did as well as it did.
 
I have SpyParty and haven't played it... mainly because if I get good at it now, any friends who play it will be at a serious disadvantage.
The game's creator even warns you of this.
 
7:46 PM
I really want to get in on the beta but it's $15... and I'm poor.
 
> “The most important thing to realize about Apple products is that they are designed to become obsolete fairly quickly. Apple engineers constantly change up the hardware and software,” he says.
 
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Q: How do I wire up my hexipal?

fredleyI've got the wire from Car'l Carol, but I can't figure out how to work out the wiring. I'm guessing the clue is somewhere in Vella's side of the story, but What do I need to do?

 
well the hardware does change regularly too
look at how much the displays have changed over the last like 3 iterations
 
@GnomeSlice that applies just the same to other mobile devices
but apple has never been about backwards compatibility
they are more than happy to draw a line in the sand and say FTFY, go buy new devices/accessories if you want to use our stuff
look at the lightning cable for example
 
I like how quickly the new FTFY meaning spread over here
 
7:51 PM
pls @pow post teh codez
 
@fredley I don't remember them, but I did just post something about how I figured them out.
Besides, they could be different from playthrough the playthrough
I think middle row is red and bottom is yellow... it's whatever order they appear in when you put the Hexipal in the machine
The photo is intentionally black and white so you have to figure out the order while testing.
At least you figured out pretty quickly that the solution is in the other player's area. I got stuck for a bit because I hadn't played Vella far enough.
 
@GnomeSlice If a minor version bump like that breaks code, it's an abuse of version numbers
 
@GodEmperorDune Other updates have broken things like that. Heck, one of Square-Enix's games has been broken for some time. I'd have to ask my friends over at RPGamer which one it is/was.
and if it ever got pulled from the store.
Wow, I herpa-derped. Forgot that the contents of META-INF would be considered a resource and to put them in there instead of in the code directories.
 
8:28 PM
@fredley Oh the days of Wipqalot. THOOOOOOOOOSE WERE THE DAYS.
Might be time for another avatar change soon.
@AshleyNunn Fantastic.
AVATAR CHANGE
TERRIBLE LEVEL: WIPQOZN
 
fucking att ... stop using a PERMANENT redirect for a TEMPORARY error!
 
@Wipqozn needs moar turtles
 
@GodEmperorDune The Age of Turtles is dead.
 
@Wipqozn Impossible. It's turtles all the way down
 
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8:43 PM
@wipqozn it bugs me that I don't know who your avatar is
 
@AshleyNunn It should.
 
user15026
@wipqozn I recognize it, but my brain isn't connecting.
 
@AshleyNunn it must be angsty-not-a-turtle
 
Google Reverse Image Search says it's Kvothe from The Kingkiller Chronicle
 
@murgatroid99 Way to ruin all my fun!
I was going to link @AshleyNunn to Link! HE COME TO TOWN! Claiming it was the source or something.
 
8:47 PM
@Powerlord Any tips on wiring up the second hexibuddy?
I've got the positions right, but not the directions, clearly
 
@Wipqozn So you were going to link, but then you came to town.
 
@badp came to SAVE the princess ZELDA
 
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Q: Minecraft Server File not loading

LiquatoneWhen I try to run the minecraft server file, the eula and server files come up and I type in true on the eula, then when I the the server file again, the thing runs for about a half a second, then closes and does nothing. Does anyone know how I can solve this problem?

 
@badp but then gaben took her away
 
@badp now the children don't play
 
8:52 PM
well fuck
 
@TheAce anno news?
 
yeah
i dont think they can move the game
 
user15026
@wipqozn I knew it was a book I had read relatively recently!
 
What news si this?
 
2 hours ago, by TheAce
turns out when i first got it (years ago) i activated it with a different uplay account
 
user15026
8:55 PM
Selection of platinum or gold rewards for club Nintendo ends tomorrow and there is nothing I want. So if anyone wants anything from that set of rewards, hit me up.
 
user15026
First person who does, I will grab you a code for whatever you want from the options.
 
@AshleyNunn what kind of rewards are we talkin here?
 

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