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10:00 PM
@murgatroid99 Well that explains it
 
oh I guess his mega-ignore script isn't quite as comprehensive as I credited it to be.
 
Well I already downloaded Pidgin anyway, so I'm just going to keep being lazy I think
 
@badp It doesn't work with anything that's oneboxed afaik
 
@fredley don't give me evil ideas please.
 
Non-space-deliniated pings are also not blocked, e.g. @badp's
 
10:02 PM
DID I NEED TO KNOW THAT
 
But that doesn't pop up a little preview thinger when I get a message, so we'll see
 
I couldn't ignore anyone in here unless they were someone no one actually talks to. The lack of context when people respond would drive me nuts.
 
So can you guys help me upvote my tag suggestions
 
@Sterno I have a script that hides all replies to people I have ignored.
 
@0-framelinks Asking for votes, user suspended.
 
10:03 PM
I think things go much more smoothly for everyone not involved when I proactively ignore the fact that he's ignoring me.
 
Bridgeeee
I'm sick
 
It's seriously annoying how "Global" is literally in the game title
 
fever and sore throat and achies :(
 
@spugsley Too much writing? :(
 
and you literally cannot search for that game
by typing in global
 
10:03 PM
@badp Yup
 
@badp ughhh I'm not gonna be able to write today. I'm too dizzy. Fail.
 
It'd be like having a game called Pokemon Red and searching for Pokemon would yield nothing
 
oh, not enough writing then. D:
 
Sadly it doesn't prevent the tab from showing a number on hidden messages.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, but then you get jerks like me who respond without replying
 
10:04 PM
Yea, well the alternative is not being here with people I do like.
 
@0-framelinks I upvoted "csgo" thinking that would act like a supervote D:
 
@badp Thanks :D
Also is there a reason why searching for global won't pull up cs-global-offensive
 
@badp *Reaches up to top shelf of dusty mod tools*
 
@fredley I can't remember the last time I've done this.
 
10:05 PM
@badp I remember I get so confused every time I do this
The tool is terribly worded
 
Well of course you put the new synonym no one has ever used under "Old tag"
and the current tag that is in widespread usage in "New tag"
don't forget to tick the synonyms checkbox.
 
@badp I'm at a thing that has "Target" and "Source"
What do those mean?
 
10:06 PM
@badp Dude, i created these tags so long ago
I don't even remember
 
THANK YOU BASED BADP
wait what
csgo is the one everyone uses
 
yeah but we should keep counter-strike-go I believe
 
Remember when @GnomeSlice used to always get in trouble here? TIMES HAVE CHANGED
sniff he's all grown up
 
@badp proof
 
10:08 PM
He grew up to only sometimes getting in trouble.
 
@0-framelinks 19 hits for [csgo] csgo is:question out of 245 questions.
 
Well, the rest of us only sometimes get in trouble too
 
@badp How about CSGO in questions?
 
That just means he's only as terrible as the rest of us.
 
10:09 PM
 
Which is the best you can hope for, I guess.
 
@badp gaming.stackexchange.com/search?q=csgo why does this show up as 49
 
@0-framelinks It's also counting answers.
 
@badp Ah
 
[csgo] csgo is:answer gives me 27 hits. 27+19=46 CLOSE ENOUGH OKAY?!!?!?
 
10:12 PM
@badp For what it's worth, the subreddit is named /r/globaloffensive
@badp i'm sorry ;_;
 
@0-framelinks It is worth something. I guess it's worth a tag suggestion upvote. Which is basically the smallest amount of worth on the site.
 
@badp rest in piecees
 
Like, a comment upvote is about 50,000 tag synonym suggestion upvotes.
and way more plentiful, too.
 
@badp So basically Tag Suggestion Votes should be classified in NZD (new zimbwabean dollars), Meta Votes as the ruble, and regular upvotes and downvotes as USD, and the close votes as uh
 
@0-framelinks So basically just ask for synonyms on meta so we can just push the button for you.
 
10:15 PM
We should really have a conversion rate from the mythical super downvote to a downvote on a tag suggestion
Is it like 10000000 - 1
 
Whoa there, we probably need decibels for that one.
HOLD UP EVERYONE I AM CALLING THE NUMBERS POLICE, WE NEED A BIG NUMBERS PERMIT HERE
 
@badp "As a new incentive for users, you will now gain 0.00000000000000005 reputation points for every tag suggestion upvote you receive, and lose 0.00000000000000002 reputation points for downvotes."
Please make this the new meta
 
@0-framelinks Arqade Heroes
 
hey, Canadian Bridge users! Is imperial still used in your provinces or have you fully switched to metric yet?
 
Is Merge Tags only for mods
 
10:19 PM
We use imperial!
totally is canadian
 
@0-framelinks yep.
 
or for a certain rep cap
Is there a severe issue if that privlege were given to high rep users?
Like, 50k rep+ per se?
persay
 
you already sorta have that privilege
 
? We do?
 
and you have just come here to seek help in exercising it
 
10:20 PM
@Unionhawk you didn't add ", eh" so, I don't believe you
 
When your tag synonym proposal hits 3 votes or so, it becomes an actual synonym.
 
@Chippies He also didn't reference moose, furry top hats, and poutine in his post, so he's obviously not a real candian. MYTH DEBUNKED
 
Just the same as filling in that form.
 
@badp Gotcha. Too bad nobody ever reads the tag synonyms
 
HOW CAN YOU EARN A PRIVILEGE
THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE?
I told you man: check your privilege.
 
10:21 PM
@badp HOW CAN META BE REAL, IF ARQADE ISNT REAL?
 
@0-framelinks I think furry top hats are local to certain provinces, but the other stuff is a must for a real canadian
 
@Chippies What do you call those, shakos or something?
Just a tf2 thing I remembered
 
@0-framelinks The gif maker is using OS X: privilege status successfully checked.
3
 
@0-framelinks I don't know, I'm not a real canadian
 
Thank you for using the privilege checking automated service.
Have a privileged day.
 
10:23 PM
M'privlege
 
I have a friend who bought a used Dell laptop and turned it into a hackbook
 
@Chippies That sounds like a good way to have the worst of several worlds.
 
@fredley if only there was a way to have shitty old hardware, shitty OS AND pay ridiculous amounts of money for it...
 
@Chippies OS X is probably the worst part of owning a Mac so I dunno why you'd do that.
 
10:25 PM
@Chippies and be EULA violating!
 
@badp he wanted to compile some stuff for OSX, and you need to be on OSX to compile anything for OSX, because, you know, Apple
 
@Chippies fair enough.
 
@badp I haven't used Windows since 7, and newer iterations scare me.
 
I'm not sure if he ever actually compiled anything on it, last I asked, I think he only booted OSX twice or so
 
@fredley Windows 10 is alright. It even has (half-assed) virtual desktops.
 
10:26 PM
@Chippies To be fair, you need to be on Windows to compile for Windows. etc.
 
then again I've used Windows 8 since its customer preview, so really, what do I know?
 
@fredley I heard you can compile from linux for windows
 
@badp Neat. The fullscreen desktops in OSX I use a lot
2 mins ago, by fredley
@Chippies That sounds like a good way to have the worst of several worlds.
 
but the point is that you need apple hardware to run OSX
 
Unfortunately they're half-assed
 
10:27 PM
@Chippies ...or a VM
 
@fredley Holy heck is that hard to do
 
@fredley we tried, it ran so slow it was not worth it
 
Well, at least it has been for me.
 
@Chippies To be fair, if you need a Mac for occasional compiling, just get a Mac Mini. Run it headless and VNC in when you need to.
Mac Minis, especially second hand, are cheap
 
@fredley he was considering a mac mini, but a dell hackbook was like, half the price than a second hand mac mini
either way, don't think he ever actually compiled anything on it
 
10:29 PM
@fredley cygwin is actually not that terrible.
 
@badp ORLY?
 
yarly.
 
@badp Do you still have to use Setup.exe as a package manager?
 
yes, on Windows 10 you get three terminals instead of 1.
 
@badp Shell, Powershell and cygwin?
 
10:30 PM
@fredley Yes. That's because they both do the same job and the initial setup phase can't depend on cygwin already being there.
Really the biggest shortcoming of setup.exe is the somewhat limited selection of packages rather than the fact you can't call it from the same terminal it sets up.
oh, now I only get the one terminal I want. Hooray.
I wonder if those aren't new compatibility shims at work
...
okay this IS kind of terrible.
but I only just learned about this view anyway.
 
@badp I don't understand why it can't fake a command-line package manager
 
@badp Win 8 has powershell as well
 
@Chippies powershell is quite the different beast.
It does a few things to appease Linux users by adding aliases for ls, rm, etc.
 
@badp it also doesn't require cygwin
 
but it really is a scripting interface for C#
 
10:37 PM
MingW can be installed
 
which I suppose is great if you already know and are comfortable with the C# Windows APIs
but if you just want to manipulate files and text streams, cygwin is IMHO where it's at.
 
Also, wake me when windows offers the EXCITING feature of being able to change the width of your terminals without going into a menu
 
@KevinvanderVelden I don't suppose resizing of the terminal viewport is what you meant
 
@badp nope. Open a standard cmd or powershell terminal. Drag it wider
Can't do it
It fakes making it smaller by adding a scrollbar
 
You CAN drag it wider actually. I'm just thinking of a command that will write in very long lines so I can gfycat it
what was that traceroute based Star Wars thing?
 
10:40 PM
Not unless you changed the settings
 
Current build of Windows 10's defaults.
 
Please do give me that tracert IP
I want to see it myself live
 
What does right mouse -> options -> layout say about the width
 
 
10:41 PM
telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
@badp huh weird
 
will it give me strings of very long lines?
 
No, it gives you star wars
Ooh wait different thing
You're talking about 216.81.59.173
 
yeah
 
Aah, seems like it's just timing out for me
 
:(
 
10:45 PM
Oh well, towel.blinkenlights.nl is still available
I mean
Not that windows has a telnet client anymore
By default at least
 
gfycat incoming anyway
here you go.
 
oooh
So modern
 
the text is a random comment on the same SO question where I got the byzantine FOR syntax from.
 
Damn, it took microsoft to 2015 to get a terminal emulator that you can freely resize (even per pixel from the look of it!) and they failed to make it possible to shrink it again -,-
Well done microsoft, you half-assed another feature
Oh well, I'm off
Cya chat
 
@KevinvanderVelden To be perfectly fair...
 
10:52 PM
 
@badp Oh interesting
 
I AM TOTALLY NOT SHOWING OFF HOW AWESOME FISH IS IN THAT GFYCAT BTW
 
Wonder why it didn't work in the other one
 
Fish is great
 
10:53 PM
Hmm, I should probably wait 7 more minutes to power this clock so I don't have to set it to 23:53
 
It's like parents want their children to be stupid an uneducated.
I dream of a world in which trying to reduce the quality of your childrens education is considered child abuse.
 
@KevinvanderVelden That's a custom terminal program
 
I think it's actually the same as putty's
Console2 is another one that will also work out of the box with Windows' own terminals.
wat
how does a terminal even do that.
I guess that's actually what they're showing off there.
#afateworsethanvi
 
What? Transparency?
That's... pretty common in terminal emulators
 
10:58 PM
@KevinvanderVelden Letters don't line up.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Do imagine what the result would look like
The terminal mixes roman and non-roman text for a reason I do believe
 
Weirdness
Oh well, I am off to bed for real now =p
I waited long enough that I only had to plug in my clock :D
Cya chat
 
@badp I use Console2 as well!
@badp What do you mean?
What letters aren't lining up?
 
@SaintWacko Those in the terminal
There aren't any columns of characters
(and yet somehow VIM is still able to draw the interface coherently)
(I'm really not sure how this feat is being achieved)
 
11:08 PM
@badp ...I see columns of characters
The chinese? characters are just two columns wide
 
oh wait. It's really hard to tell but the roman characters are exactly half the width
@SaintWacko "just"
 
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Apparently Linux terminals also CAN support double width characters.
although it's on a line-by-line basis
 
Still processing this news. Intellectually, it sounds like a great thing, career-wise. Current kneejerk reaction, though, is that I feel like I'm getting sold like a side of beef.
 
@Frank I'm afraid I missed the news. Are you being outsourced?
 
11:11 PM
3 hours ago, by Frank
Our department just got given to a contractor.
 
I... just hope the contractor isn't greater than.
Also I hope that the move comes with a pay rise to match the decreased benefits you'll get from your current employer.
 
@badp A raise, I have no idea.
Both my old boss and my new one dodged that question today.
 
For example you'll still need to have access to the company systems, but since you'll be a contractor you might lose some of it and might need to fight tooth and nail to gain it back
You might also lose access to office amenities like company canteen
or just employee only benefits and events in general
 
@badp You misunderstand. The company I (used to?) work for now doesn't HAVE an IT department. We're it.
 
Yes.
It'll still probably change things.
 
11:15 PM
@badp Yeah. As in I stop caring about the company's long term benefit.
 
The company will have to/want to limit the amount of access your contracting external company has to its production systems and data e.g.
This makes debugging harder as you have less data to work with and it's all made up and doesn't reflect reality at all (at least in a company where you CAN talk about prod and dev environments)
 
@badp Nope. That's not how it works.
 
(which I don't think is yours... just yet)
 
That's the way it SHOULD be. But it won't.
We'll still continue to have an all access pass to everything in the company.
 
The company is likely to have legal/contractual obligations to make it so
at least given enough time
You're probably going to have to deal with somebody who is just going to require this out of you no matter how impossible it actually is, and if you can't deliver, she'll just threaten to cut your contract. Again, in your case, a mostly empty threat.
 
11:19 PM
The part that really rubs me the wrong way right now is that I was coming up on my first year anniversary.
 
But still you're probably going to be looking forward to being stuck working at that company (since you still are the only ones with any clue with what's going on there) with only mostly additional annoyance and limited decision making possibilities.
 
And I was going to ask for, and expected to get, a rather decent raise.
But based on the amount of dodging I got today, I don't really see that happening.
 
If they're doing that, it's because the IT budget is shrinking even further
at least that's what I think.
I hope you're applying colossal amounts of salt to how I'm reading this situation.
 
@badp Intellectually, it could be a good thing. More formalized processes, clear direction career wise, possibly better benefits.
 
@Frank You should consider however for how long you're going to have to be chained to that company since, again, you're the only one(s) with the necessary know-how.
So long as you're still there I don't know how much career there is to be made.
 
11:22 PM
But when I told my new boss that I expected my accomplishments over the last year to be recognized, he told me that's not how it worked. So I expect they're angling to keep me at my same salary, as that's the lowest they can go.
 
Meanwhile you've "lost" your "seniority" "status".
 
@badp Yeah, that was the first thing I asked. And my old CEO just said, "I have no idea what it is you're asking."
 
I mean, if you are in a project lead position already, that can be a great thing.
 
@badp Except they have their own project leads.
 
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11:24 PM
@Frank Your company is terrible and I feel sorry for you. :(
 
My honest advice is get some negotiation leverage in the form of alternative job offers.
(COLOSSAL AMOUNTS OF SALT WARNING)
 
My advice is to punch them directly in the face but this is probably not advisable by other people.
 
At the end of the day, they need you but you don't need them.
(TITANIC AMOUNTS OF SALT WARNING)
 
That's enough salt to melt the snow in Boston
 
thrice over
 
11:27 PM
@TimStone The situation can be summed up as, "Here's a meeting on short notice about your future. We have decided that it's in the company's best interest to outsource our entire IT department, over to these bigwigs who I am really good friends with. We've guaranteed you a job with these guys, and that you'll keep making at least what you're making now. But otherwise, they're now your bosses. Have fun!"
 
Yeah, that is just dumb as dumb can be.
...Speaking of dumb
 
I'm not even sure they can do that.
 
@TimStone Especially if they're all chummy with the guys who will now be your superiors the whole "Well it doesn't work that way" RE: efforts over the last year seems like a huge cop out.
 
@Frank You know just how terrible and/or byzantine their IT situation is, despite your best efforts. I don't know how much documentation you had the time to write.
 
11:29 PM
@TimStone Yeah, that's the way I saw it.
"Right. So I've busted my ass for the last year, doing the work of three coders. But now you expect me to prove myself all over again, because I work for a new company, doing the exact same thing I am expected to continue to do."
 
@Frank It sounds to me like you should start looking for a new job. I need to agree with @Sterno that the place you've worked at for the past year has always sounded really shitty.
 
@Wipqozn And, sadly, it's been the best of the places I've worked.
Don't get me wrong; the clusterfuck of it all is what gives me such fantastic return on resume.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I...huh. And a goat named Penelope.
 
I've only had three IT positions, and yet, at this point, I am easily a senior developer.
 
11:32 PM
@Yuuki Ah yeah, saw that yesterday, what a shame.
 
So from that standpoint, I've gotten what I needed out of them.
By all accounts, this new firm is a good place to work. People I trust say they're good people.
Intellectually, it's a good career move. They have a training budget per person, and the opportunity to work on things outside of my old company.
Hopefully they also have a pension plan.
It's the initial presentation, though, full of bigwigs and buzzwords, that lit off every warning sensor I have.
 
@TimStone it's so Portland it hurts.
 
That, and feeling like I just got sold.
 
@TimStone Oh my
 
11:41 PM
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Anyways! I haven't had lunch, so I'm going to go eat something now.
Maybe that will improve my state of mind.
 
hey bridge! Its been a long time, how you guys doin
 
That warm response! I live for it!
 
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
11:55 PM
...
 
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that controller looks horribly awkward
 

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