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8:01 PM
@badp Hey look people are actually trying to do things about it.
 
@Unionhawk i read that as "Other M" (because I have the dumb) and was really confused... I know it wasn't that good of a metroid game, but it doesn't need to be killed.
 
@StrixVaria yep! that's nice.
 
@Rapitor Yes it does
 
@Unionhawk noooo. it was just team ninja being team ninja
 
I really enjoyed your steps to reproduce.
 
8:02 PM
@Rapitor that game was dope, shaddap
 
@Unionhawk E Sport Sex Press.
 
Yes
Pretty much
Nailed it
 
E Sport Sex Press Sex Change?
 
@StrixVaria to be fair it's hard to tell how bad things slow down in a tab with just the picture in it
I could've linked to the transcript page.
 
@fredley No. You're overreaching.
 
8:06 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz :(
 
Way to kill the joke @fredley.
 
KILLING THE JOKE IS OUR THING @LessPop_MoreFizz
 
@badp no, @fredley just has a broken sense of humor is all.
 
I AM OKAY WITH PICK ON @FREDLEY DAY BUT NOT TO THE EXPENSE OF THE CORE FOUNDATIONAL VALUES OF THE BRIDGE
 
Also today is the officially sanctioned and designated day to pick on @fredley.
 
8:07 PM
The tables will turn
heed my words
 
IF WE HAD A CONSTITUTION BAD HUMOUR WOULD BE ARTICLES II-CIL
 
room topic changed to The Bridge: General Arqade chat room, wherein we meanwhile links, verb words and pick on @fredley. [-bubblegum] [-context] [fredley-harassment] [-fun] [jin-fanclub] [lazers] [--mandatory] [murder] [pedantry] [-tryhards] [-unicode]
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz GODDAMMIT THIS MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE A DIFF
I'M SO ANGRY I COULD USERSCRIPT
3
 
Humans are so bad at diffing :(
 
@badp We're okay at diffing, what we're not so good at is... um...
what was it?
 
8:10 PM
urmom is good at diffing
 
@MBraedley This is my entire life. And I always have to import shitty data like this into a database which DOES have constraints, and it inevitably blows up because there was bad data.
7 hours ago, by Sterno
In other news, people who don't put foreign key constraints in the database on columns they're clearly using as foreign keys should be shot.
 
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Q: What is the name of the "can't be targeted by spells or hero power" ability?

DustinThere are several cards, such as Arcane Nullifier, Spectral Knight, and Faerie Dragon that have the card text "cannot be targeted by spells or hero power". I haven't been able to find an "official" term for this ability online. Is there an official or unofficially accepted name?

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Q: Can you play GTA online without a GTA 5 disk?

user69492I want to buy GTA 5 from PSN instead of buying the disk, but i want to know if i will still be able to play GTA online. I ask because i heard that GTA online was a stand alone tittle, and was wondering if i needed to buy it separately.

 
Do I need to verify that this doesn't just inject a Friday embedded?
 
@fredley Your scripts can never be trusted again
 
8:25 PM
@Sterno I know
 
Well, didn't see that coming.
Our department just got given to a contractor.
 
Should I have shits to give over this whole Ringling Brothers elephant thing? Because I don't.
@Frank Does that mean you are out of a job?
 
@Sterno Nope. I'm now an employee of the contractor.
 
8:29 PM
@Frank wat
 
I didn't know that could just sort of happen.
I like all the tears on on every elephant picture
I don't know what's going on in that other chat room, but it sounds good
 
@fredley Yup. Our department's functions are getting farmed out to a contractor, and, oh, hey, we've guaranteed you jobs at the contractor.
 
@Frank That's....terrible
 
@fredley how is that helpful
 
@badp Because I want to know what the room topic was before it was changed
 
8:33 PM
It's like the edit audit on chat
 
@fredley Whether I stay or not is going to be predicated on if they give me the raise.
 
Yes, it shows you all revisions, but they don't line up vertically, so you still have to diff manually
 
Damn. Disappointingly tame over there.
 
@badp I can squash a javascript diffing library in there if you like
 
@badp Still better than searching for the last change manually
 
8:34 PM
@Frank They only guaranteed you jobs. They didn't guarantee you equal pay or benefits. They may well try to pay less!
 
It is better, yes.
@fredley Just make them line up vertically
 
@Sterno They DID guarantee we would not be getting paid less than we currently are.
 
Well, that's good
 
("Just")
 
@badp NO U
I can make it line up for me, since I used a fixed-width font, but I can't make it line up for you
 
8:36 PM
I was just coming up on my first year, and was going to demand a large raise.
 
@fredley It's not that difficult
 
So, yet again, I get screwed over at my one year mark.
 
@badp Fine
 
@fredley Prepend the line with "room topic changed to" grayed out
(low opacity)
(maybe even 0)
That way, no matter what sort of CSS trickeries you might have used, it'll line up.
 
@badp No, just put a line break in after room topic changed to
 
8:37 PM
@Frank To be fair, the way you tell it, they've been screwing you over since about day 1
 
@fredley that works too.
 
@Sterno More or less.
 
Much easier than throwing in a diff library anyway
 
To be blunt, I signed up to be part of a dev team. Not to BE the dev team.
 
@Frank On a positive front, speaking as a contractor, I can vouch for the awesomeness of the ability to change jobs. Perhaps, after some time, they can move you to a different site?
 
8:38 PM
fixed for you
 
you're welcome, you people who use that script
(okay okay I'll grab it now.)
 
To put it in perspective, the IT team here has kept TWO people, out of a team of...six? Seven? in the last year.
@JasonBerkan My last job was working as a contractor.
They emphasized billable hours, not good code.
 
True. My company emphasizes solving the customer's problem, then billable hours. Good code is a footnote at the bottom of the sheet.
 
They're saying the right things, but I don't know how well that will shake out.
 
I'm a contractor. It's awesome.
I do sometimes wish we were building our own products, but whatevs
 
8:42 PM
But now my focus is less on doing what's good for the company, and more short term, about getting the job done.
 
I guess I'm just saying that just because you had a crappy contractor experience, don't assume all contracting companies are just about billable hours
However, the manner in which this one just acquired you is odd
 
@Sterno When it's all the experience I have, it's reasonable for me to have doubts about other contractors.
 
That does not sound to me like the sort of hiring practice a good company does. You pick the right people for your needs... not just whoever happens to be working on the thing you're taking over. (not saying you're not qualified, but it sounds like you were hired without them ever even meeting you)
 
Doesn't writing good code translate into billable hours?
 
Sounds more like "For us to acquire this work, we had to pick up their people. Plus, we need someone to bring our "real" guys up to speed"
 
8:44 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I don't think I've ever read a more vitriol-filled piece of pretentious "journalism" in my life. Thanks for that!
 
@OrigamiRobot But writing bad code, and then maintaining it, translates into MORE billable hours.
 
Oh, true.
Gross
 
@Fluttershy And every word of it true!
 
@Sterno Seeing as how our transition period is over the next 60 days, and we're expected to keep the wheels on in the interim.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Funny thing about opinions... They aren't always true. That's why they're opinions! :D
 
8:46 PM
But doing a good job translates into repeat business.
 
@Fluttershy not always. But sometimes. Like this time.
 
I guess it's easier with code to trap people into a shitty service.
 
@OrigamiRobot People aren't always concerned with repeat business if they have enough new fish to hook
 
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Q: In XCOM EW LW Beta 15 Are mechs useful early game?

Jack TaylorCurrently only 4 months in and only 10 or so names on the wall due to unfortunate hits (criticals) and being a cheap-ass on armor for fear of repairs, I haven't even unlocked the MECs suits. Most work has been done the biology side using basic laser weapons for the past month and working out the ...

 
@Sterno wtf
 
8:48 PM
@GnomeSlice You don't train massive animals with hugs and rainbows.
 
@Sterno That was more a counter to the "do bad and then get hired again to fix the bad" thing.
 
I know but that's still fuct
 
I've never trained any animal with rainbows
 
@GnomeSlice Animals are banned in circus shows in the UK afaik
Because there's no way to make animals perform in that way that's humane
 
@OrigamiRobot Then you must be a monster.
 
8:52 PM
> Portland man arrested for allegedly stealing 2 bicycles and a goat named Penelope
 
@fredley I can make my cat look like a spaz, and all it requires is a laser pointer
 
The pets I've trained seemed to be pretty happy with the food I used.
 
@Sterno That's not really performing
I wouldn't pay to go see that in a big tent
 
@fredley WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE MY CAT'S ARTISTIC ABILITY?
 
@Sterno I have no gifs, so how can I even?
 
8:53 PM
I'd go to a cat laser circus
 
@Unionhawk Welcome to the internet
 
That sounds infinitely more entertaining than elephants
 
I bet Bill Murray didn't abuse his elephant.
 
So, the contractor basically got my workplace as a client, and they hired the expertise there to keep it going.
 
8:56 PM
@fredley that kid killed himself
recently i think
 
@GnomeSlice Oh
:(
 
And my old boss just punted on actually discussing my raise.
 
I know the kid committed suicide but that headline still makes me laugh with its awfulness
 
@Sterno [citation needed]
 
8:58 PM
For those that would like a recap on Steam and it's accessories, look here
Steam Link actually sounds interesting
 
@Sterno :(
 
@Batophobia the controller still looks extremely bad, unwieldy, and unintuitive.. but i haven't actually held it so.. could be wrong
 
Steam Controller added real buttons?
 
> In 2011, the United States Department of Agriculture conducted an inspection of the circus' animals, facilities, and records, allegedly finding non-compliance with the agency's regulations. No specific violation was named and the circus denied the allegations, though they volunteered a $270,000 fine.
 
And an analog stick...
 
9:01 PM
@Batophobia I wish people would stop putting analog sticks there.
 
> In middle school, Rodriguez so frequently corrected mistakes by an English teacher that, when an observer was coming to the class for the day, she asked him to refrain, at least verbally.

According to Stewart, the teacher told Rodriguez, "Please don't say anything during class. If you want to, you can write down any mistakes and show it to me afterward." He did.
That kid sounded awesome
 
i notice steam controller and xbox share ABXY locations.... Nintendo pls.
 
All Nov. 2015
 
9:05 PM
Somehow I wouldn't expect 90% off deals on this stuff
 
Never doubt the power of the Steam Sale
 
okay.
what.
 
I already have a Steam machine. It's called a PC.
 
I now want Linus to rip this thing apart real bad.
 
Why?
 
9:08 PM
Price: $1,999 - $4,999 USD
CPU: Intel® Core™ up to i7-4790K
GPU: NVIDIA® Geforce® GTX 900 series, including Titan and Titan-Z class
Memory: Up to 16GB of DDR3-1866 MHz
Storage: Up to 8 TB of SSD or SSDs and a standard HDD
Completely customizable configurations
Liquid cooled CPU
Overclocking available
Only 4 inches wide - 40% smaller than our “FragBox” Small Form Factor PC!
I... don't quite see how all that can possibly add up to $5k
 
Also comes with a 24-pack of Mountain Dew and 2 bags of Doritos
 
@Sterno I don't know what Steam Machines are supposed to be.
 
@badp don't buy it then
 
OOOOOH OKAY THAT MAKES IT ALL RIGHT
 
@OrigamiRobot consoles for your steam library
 
9:09 PM
@GnomeSlice I know what they're for, but what are they?
 
what do you mean?
 
Computers that run Linux.
Also they probably have pre-installed nVidia drivers.
 
Like @Sterno said, I have a PC. How is a Steam Machine different?
 
If you have a gaming-worthy PC, a Steam machine is not for you.
That is all.
If you do and you want to play games on your TV you want the $50 Steam Link instead. or the $200 nVidia Shield. Or whatever.
 
@badp The question is: if you don't have a gaming-worthy PC, why do you have Steam games?
 
9:12 PM
@badp They don't all run Linux, just most.
 
@murgatroid99 Don't consoles have the very same problem?
 
@badp touche
 
lol
If i was valve
I'd create something with the initials of H L
 
9:14 PM
meh
 
Are they just overpriced PCs with a console shaped case?
 
@OrigamiRobot like all prebuilts.
They're meant for people who don't care to know better.
 
@OrigamiRobot with steamos, yes
 
So, less functionality?
Seems like a bad deal to me.
 
but more ease of use i guess
 
9:16 PM
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Q: Does Iron Will change the listed damage?

MrFoxAs a marauder I like to use Ground Slam, and would like to increase the damage with Iron Will. But when I equip the gem it does not increase the listed damage of the skill. While other support gems like Added Fire Damage and Melee Physical Damage do directly increase the listed damage. Is there ...

 
"LOL I JUST PUT MY CD IN AND THEN THE CONSOLE DOWNLOADS SOME SYSTEM UPDATES, REBOOTS A COUPLE TIMES, IGNORES EVERYTHING THERE IS ON THE CD, DOWNLOADS SEVERAL GIGABYTES' WORTH OF UPDATES, THEN INSTALLS THEM, THEN THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT LOADING SCREENS, THEN I JUST PLAY THE DAMN GAME AND EVERYTHING IS ALREADY SET BELOW MINIMUM QUALITY SETTINGS. SO CONVENIENT. I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO OPEN THE WEB BROWSER TO SEE ADS."
 
I'm just going to assume they are for dudebros who want to play games on Steam but think PCs are for nerds.
 
@OrigamiRobot That's probably a fair assement
 
@badp like when I got Tomb Raider. Put the DVD in (as it was stupidly cheap from retail) activate the code, then Steam ignored the DVD and downloaded the game...ffs
 
DVDs are for old people and nerds
 
9:19 PM
eight terabytes of SSD? holy fecking sheiiiiiiiiit
 
@Sterno how?
 
People still buy physical copies of PC games?
 
So Valve is throwing their name around to market a device for people who don't know any better.
 
@JasonBerkan Some people have this archaic thing called a data cap
 
@tombull89 see I know what I'm talking about.
 
9:20 PM
Not that it really matters these days with Steam.
 
@MBraedley Well, I just buy games on Steam and then don't install them. It's simpler that way.
 
(didn't the DVD have a Steam backup with the game on it?)
 
@JasonBerkan yes, because my local retail store had Tomb Raider for £9.99 when it was still on Steam for £29.99
 
@badp go back to /r/pcmasterrace
 
@tombull89 Eh, the DVD itself is probably pointless in those cases. You just use a code.
 
9:21 PM
@GnomeSlice wow, that stung!!
 
somebody is salty
 
lol
 
Yep, there was no way that was going to compile without error.
 
@badp Wow, that's impressive. It's almost like you've actually used a console before
 
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Q: Activate clock only when command block output is true

Veritas025I'm trying to activate a clock when a player looks south. I got the command for it, but when I try to make a comparator clock even if I'm not looking south the comparator clock is still going, so how do I make a clock that will only activate when the command block output is true. I'm using a comp...

 
9:26 PM
@murgatroid99 It's the moral equivalent of knowing how people in $AVERAGE_AFRICAN_COUNTRY live when your only source of information is tear-inducing TV ads.
 
@Lazers This should be really easy.
 
that is to say, 596% accurate
 
@badp Or, in your case, the word of PC users with a superiority complex
 
Is Valve calling it a console?
 
All I really need to know is that I'm guilty of it and that after all I am probably actually right, at least for this generation.
 
9:29 PM
@badp Having actually played console games, it's a major exaggeration
 
@Lazers Also, you really want to be using modern methods for this, not classic redstone clocks.
 
@murgatroid99 Keep in mind that I almost rigorously play all of my games in a 720p or so window so I don't have to mess with graphic settings ;)
I'll frown if the window doesn't have a titlebar, too.
 
15 mins ago, by Jason Berkan
People still buy physical copies of PC games?
 
@badp The only game I play windowed is Rebirth because BoI looks weird in fullscreen
 
I'm happy that works out for you.
It doesn't for me.
That's okay.
 
9:36 PM
I HATE YOU PRO*C!!!
 
In protest against Microsoft, we should start calling them "Application Rectangles" instead of "windows"
 
@Sterno Modular Application Graphical Interface Containers
"Click on the × button to close the MAGIC."
 
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Q: Crazy orders HP calculation

freekvdIn the final battle against crazy hand in crazy orders, player HP is based on damage taken and the hand's HP is based on the number of turns. But how does this work, exactly? Particularly, for player HP: What is the ratio between damage and HP? Does healed damage count towards the total?

 
@badp Now I want to maximize my MAGIC.
 
@Sterno Oh I'm sure you'd love to learn on how to enlarge your MAGIC.
But did you know that closing the MAGIC will free up space on your Modular Application Navigation Appliance on the bottom of your screen?
 
9:40 PM
So, you're saying that if I have too much MAGIC, I'll run out of MANA?
 
Basically.
Newest versions of the MAGIC OS can also hold Shorthand Portable Effects that Liberally Launch Specific applications in their MANA bar.
To launch a MAGIC click on the relevant SPELL in your MANA.
 
You know, I was trying to come up with SPELL as a description for icons and the closest I got was System Procedural Engagement Logistical Locations. That second L is a killer.
Or in my case, the first L
Liberally... I'll give you a C- on that one.
 
I'm happy that I wasn't alone in my struggles.
How about Literally?
 
A+
 
Very good then.
 
9:45 PM
Unnecessary use of Literally makes everything better
 
ARG! Instead of a relatively efficient implicit join, I apparently have to do a select in the where clause. Thanks Obama Pro*C!
 
@MBraedley Did you shoot the people responsible for the lack of foreign key constraints yet? Because that's step 1.
 
@Sterno Do you have to say it like this? (Ashley warning)
 
THE ONLY WAY WE'LL END THIS MADNESS IT TO EXECUTE THE PEOPLE PERPETRATING IT
 
@Sterno No, that person is no longer in the office. I think.
 
9:46 PM
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Q: What is the bonus XP pool and how does it affect the gain of XP?

0xC0000022LIn Diablo 3 there you can often find a "Pool of Reflection" which adds to a so-called bonus experience pool. This bonus pool gets invalidated if the avatar dies. How does this bonus pool affect the gain of experience? Even if the marker for the bonus pool is at the rightmost point you still see...

 
@MBraedley That's even worse. This stuff needs to be quarantined, not allowed to spread.
 
Also, Pro*C was just being supper stupid and required the set to be in parens. IT WORKS FINE IN SQLDEVELOPER WITHOUT PARENS, PRO*C!
@Lazers I find it odd this hasn't been asked before.
Shit, I broke it completely! Oh well, I'll just have to fix it tomorrow.
At least it's failing gracefully...
 
Yessssss
Google Photos to be separated from +
Also hangouts to be separated from +
Yessssssssss
 
I have never understood why I would use Google hangouts
 
@fredley Hangouts is already mostly separate from Plus
 
9:53 PM
@murgatroid99 Mostly
 
@fredley Steams is also being separated from Google+ from what little I understand.
 
@badp I think Streams is what's left
 
@badp Streams is what's left, I thought
:(
 
Bring back Google Reader or GTFO
6
 
@Sterno theoldreader performs well as a replacement
 
9:54 PM
@murgatroid99 Yes but are you going to be able to use Photos or Hangouts without a Google+ account?
 
@fredley I had some random problem with it that I no longer recall.
 
(OFC you don't have to answer if you can't: time will do the talking)
 
@badp I assume that's the only difference that separating them will make
 
It might just be that it was slammed at the time that Google Reader disappeared
 
@murgatroid99 YouTube is also "separated" from Google+
 
9:54 PM
@Sterno Because GTalk doesn't work anymore :(
 
@badp mostly
 
@murgatroid99 And the crappy way that whenever you try and share from Photos it assumes you want to do it with your 'Circles'
 
That's my point, yes.
 
No, Photos, I want to share by email.
 
I don't think the sharing features of Photos are going away simply because it's no longer "inside" the Google+ "website".
but what I think doesn't really matter
 
9:55 PM
@OrigamiRobot At this point, I think Hangouts is at least as good as gTalk
 
and I should make it super clear I have had zero "insider" knowledge ever since I left Google as you would expect
so I'm speculating just as anybody else on the internet would.
 
@badp cc: @StrixVaria
 
@murgatroid99 I disagree on the grounds that I have to have Chrome open to use it.
 
Kill Google+. Kill it with fire.
 
@OrigamiRobot OK, I'll give you that one
@OrigamiRobot Wait, actually, I think you can have Hangouts as the only Chrome process
 
9:57 PM
@OrigamiRobot You actually don't anymore, at least in any meaningful way
 
If you have the extension
 
Can you guys help me out
 
Yeah
 
@murgatroid99 You can
 
9:57 PM
And I could never get the Chrome app to work without making a Plus account
 
@0-framelinks It depends
 
Need to get some tag synonyms working
 
@OrigamiRobot Oh, that might be true.
 
But I have received no votes on two of the suggestions I made
 
@OrigamiRobot Well, maybe that will be fixed with the new separation
 
9:58 PM
Oh it's separating?
 
I don't think it has been possible to create a Google account that wasn't a Google+ account in years
 
@0-framelinks Ah, hi retro
 
@OrigamiRobot That's what started this conversation
 
Probably due to GTalk being unsupported anymore
 
@fredley You know me too well :^)
 
9:59 PM
@0-framelinks The "lllllsfjvjjv" gave it away
 
@murgatroid99 Well then I can't see the start.
 
7 mins ago, by fredley
Also hangouts to be separated from +
 
I just saw @Sterno talking about Hangouts
 
@murgatroid99 He still can't see that.
 

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