The Bridge

GnomeSlice

12:00 AM

wait maybe I just have it disabled on my other pc

whatever

The point is, French is dumb.

2

Unionhawk

truf

Holy crap it's rain/snowing real hard right now.

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk NJ is supposed to get a blizzard tomorrow/Tuesday. Maybe you're getting that before us.

Unionhawk

I have no idea

Let's find out!

StrixVaria

We're supposed to get over a foot in total :(

Unionhawk

Sure enough

StrixVaria

12:07 AM

I should move my shovel from the garage to somewhere I can reach from the door, since I can't find my boots.

Unionhawk

YUP

It's all melting though I think?

We'll find out!

StrixVaria

Snow is the worst.

Unionhawk

NO U

StrixVaria

Snow is fun to look at while it's falling, but at all other times it's the worst.

user15026

I hate winter. I hate snow. I hate cold.

Arperum

12:09 AM

COME ON. Give me damage or hp already game. I can run laps around myself by now probably...

Unionhawk

I want to live in colorado and laugh at your collective hatred of snow.

Or like, vancouver

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria No, @Unionhawk is getting a different storm system.

Lazers

0

Q: How to I disbable my mic in GTA V

I don't want people to be hearing my conversations, my coughing, me pressing the controller ect. If you could tell me how to disable it I would be very pleased. Thank you!

gta-online

LessPop_MoreFizz

The one hitting NY/NJ/CT is coming up out of the Atlantic because it is a classic Nor'easter.

Unionhawk

Ah

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:14 AM

Weather Nerd Shit

Bombogenesis is such a fun word.

Wipqozn

oH,WELL THAT'S CAPS LOCK TO KNOW

Well that's good to know. There is this difficult boss, where you fight 3 folks, right after an area filled with people shooting poison arrows and traps firing stone arrows, but it's optional. cc @GnomeSlice

user15026

You lot can keep it

Unionhawk

I thought bombogenesis being a fun word was what was capslock to know

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn I havent played any of the DS2 DLC

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I'm liking it so far, but it's quite difficult.

Unionhawk

12:19 AM

Holy shit dark souls DLC is hard?

Who would have thought

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk Dark Souls 2 dlc actually.

Also, the Dark Souls 1 DLC was actually pretty easy, I found.

Also short. I got through it in an afternoon.

@StrixVaria I've only read the prelude + prologue, but I'm enjoying Way of Kings.

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn They're both awesome.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn wtf the bosses are all ridiculous

The Sanctuary Guardian is a piece of shit

LessPop_MoreFizz

In Which We Learn That @OrigamiRobot Doesn't Have Anything Nice To Say.

GnomeSlice

Artorias is wicked fast

Kalameet is just fucking stupid

And Manus is pretty hard too if you don't shoot him with arrows through the hole

Wipqozn

12:22 AM

@GnomeSlice I found Artorias to be the most difficult.

Unionhawk

I mean, we knew that he doesn't have anything nice to say about autocad

Wipqozn

I was playing through as a mage though, which tends to make things easier.

Manus took me 3 tries, and it was a close fight.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn he's like the hardest boss in the game

Wipqozn

Also, context: when I saw easy and hard about a souls game, I mean as far as souls games go.

AlthoughI did find the guardian to be really, really easy.

GnomeSlice

wtf

I had to beat him the other day by myself and it was brutal

I don't know why everybody says he's easy

Unionhawk

12:24 AM

Just to mess with you

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Depends on your build, and also your playstyle.

GnomeSlice

sword and board bruh

Wipqozn

Also, some people just have more trouble with certain bosses than others.

GnomeSlice

also my save didn't get uploaded to steam cloud so now I have to go beat him again

Wipqozn

I've come to notice everyone has one or two bosses they either find a lot easier than everyone else, or a lot more difficult.

GnomeSlice

12:24 AM

with my fucking level 18 noob

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn I remember Way of Kings significantly better than other books I've read. Maybe because it was more recent or something. But I should know what you're talking about if you bring up parts.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Oh good. Because all the other books I do that for you usually have no idea what I'm talking about :P

The Prelude was really chilling. Also, Shardblades are horrifying.

StrixVaria

The Prelude was so great.

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz Nasty. We're supposed to get between 25 and 35 centimetres on Tuesday (aka up to almost 14 inches)

StrixVaria

The Prologue was also great.

user15026

12:27 AM

I got through the prelude/prologue and the first bit, but never got farther, and I remember liking it. I think it was more the "I have enough to read without having another thing to wait for"

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Silly @AshleyNunn, not wanting to suffer like everyone else.

StrixVaria

The only bad thing about Stormlight is that it's not all out.

user15026

Yeah, I have enough authors I wait for. I dislike unfinished stories

Wipqozn

The trick to waiting is to just read more books.

GnomeSlice

I never read any more

which is probably why I'm so dumb now

I should

Wipqozn

12:28 AM

The wait for ASOIAF become less painful when I just started reading more books.

In fact the wait doesn't even bother me anymore.

user15026

That's another series I never finished - I abandoned the 4th book when my ereader died at one point, and never went back

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Start with the Mistborn trilogy.

@AshleyNunn The fourth book is pretty bad, so stopping there would make sense, ereader or not.

StrixVaria

I abandoned ASoIaF in the 4th book because I couldn't bring myself to read another chapter by a character I didn't care about.

Wipqozn

Damn it GRRM, no one cares about the iron islands. They're boring.

user15026

@Wipqozn It was in that time I killed my reader (well, like three in a row, because I kept getting shitty refurbs)

Wipqozn

12:30 AM

@StrixVaria The Ayra chapters are good, but there's only 3 of them. The Jaime chapters are also good, and some of the cersei chapters are good.

The cersei chapters star toff interesting, but then it's just "yes, I get it, she's stupid and crazy"

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn I want to read chapters by Arya, Bran, Jon, and Tyrion. Pretty much narrators from the first book minus Theon. Everyone else needs to go away.

user15026

I liked Arya, and Jaime, the rest I was bored with

Wipqozn

I like Brianne, so I enjoyed some of her chapters, but not all of them.

user15026

Oh, and Tyrion

user15026

I liked the idea of Brianne better than her actual self most of the time

Wipqozn

12:32 AM

@StrixVaria Ayra and Bran both only get a handful of chapters in book 5. Jon and Tyrion get quite a few.

Book 5 was a lot better than 4, but still not as good as 1-3 was.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if GRRM ended up going beyond 7 books. Book four was a good example of how he just doesn't grasp he DOESN'T needs to show EVERYTHING and EVERYONE going on.

user15026

It is just an ever expanding convoluted mess

Wipqozn

Yeah. I really like the series as a whole, but book four... it's just so much "I don't care. I don't need to see this."

Well, I'm going to go back to either dark souls 2 or way of kings.

talk to you wonderful folks tomorrow.

Unless we all get attacked by some sort of giant alien boar or something, but that seems unlikely.

Sterno

@StrixVaria I'm playing a Yeek Barbarian now. Yeek's get 7 hp/level instead of 12 like a dwarf, and start with -5 to most of the physical stats. It's challenging!

StrixVaria

@Sterno When I die I'm going to try Archmage, since this character unlocked two trees for them.

Sterno

cool

spugsley

12:45 AM

HALLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OMG STRANGE MAGIC WAS SO GOOD

excuse me while I go write some fanfiction

Unionhawk

YOU'RE NOT EXCUSED :P

spugsley

on second thought, I think I might play a little Diablo

on third thought, I should eat something. Tuna sandwich?

that sounds lame. I want good food.

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Krater!

spugsley

I really want mozzarella sticks. Or pizza. Or something fried.

GnomeSlice

pizza

spugsley

12:50 AM

@GnomeSlice played it a little at a friend's and didn't care for it, sadly :/

GnomeSlice

aw

I liked it

I should finish it

spugsley

:3

GnomeSlice

The skill system is really shallow though

spugsley

yeah, agreed

GnomeSlice

tbh that's kind of a plus for me lol

I really liked the aesthetic

Ktash

12:54 AM

@spugsley Mozzarella sticks sound delicious

user15026

Holy crap I was dragging my feet about studying all weekend AND I COULD HAVE BEEN STARTING A NEW CHAPTER. Silly me, I thought I was still stuck in customizing PC hell (that chapter was boring - a lot of charts that I suspect will be outdated because, well, tech changes)

Lazers

0

Q: Vassal inheritance warning - Who must die?

I have a duke who has a married a foreign duke which has given me an inheritance warning. This being Crusader Kings, my gut instinct is to have someone killed but I'm not sure who or in what order people must die. The breakdown is thus: I am playing a Byzantine emperor with high crown authority...

crusader-kings-2

Ktash

@AshleyNunn Wait, what were the charts of??

user15026

@Ktash If you want a computer to do x (where x is gaming, or CAD stuff, or home theater stuff etc) you should consider the following bits. list of bits - it was more a general thing than "you need this specific brand/model of thing" but like...gaming requirements change, etc

Ktash

Ah, yeah, the chart will likely be less helpful than the general concepts

StrixVaria

12:59 AM

@Sterno This is my escort mission in Dreadfell.

Ktash

Finale of Galavant is tonight!! :D

StrixVaria

Me on the stairs, escort next to me, and that's the room.

user15026

@Ktash Yeah, the general concepts are good things

user15026

Also, I realized I have never actually watched Road to El Dorado all the way through, so that is my background for tonight

GnomeSlice

nextimpulsesports.com/2015/01/12/…

@LessPop_MoreFizz

StrixVaria

1:00 AM

HE SURVIVED

A red sliver of health.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Could've sworn I linked that a few weeks ago.

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE DIIIIGGGGEERRRRR

user15026

Also, who named this stuff? SODIMM memory? that just makes me giggle, but I guess inside I am five, so.

Ktash

@AshleyNunn It's good. I love Chel :)

@AshleyNunn Heh, often that's why it gets named that way

Unionhawk

@GnomeSlice What

spugsley

TELL ME WHAT TO EATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:06 AM

@spugsley chocolate covered coffee beans.

spugsley

:o I did have raisinettes earlier at the movies

LessPop_MoreFizz

Raisins <<<<< coffee beans.

spugsley

there is a cookout down the street.

I should make a tuna sandwich though

it's healthier and my cat will be my best friend

GnomeSlice

►

Man all of Brut's video stuff is fantastic

I mean all two of them

But still

That's such a great well to promo a new release

top tier

Lazers

0

Q: Commodore 64 - Math Busters how to play

Recently got the old Commodore out of my parents attic. Trying a game I vaguely remember called Math Busters by Spinnaker Software. I don't have the manual and I can't figure out how to do anything except jump and swim. I can grab numbers and make equations, but they don't do anything and th...

commodore-64

StrixVaria

1:12 AM

@Sterno This elite banshee opened a vault.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@spugsley milkshake from cookout is making me jealous.

There is one up the road from me too, but... Pants require effort.

@GnomeSlice Art Brut > Carpenter Brut:

►

GnomeSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz not a fan of the vocals

spugsley

@LessPop_MoreFizz if I go I won't get a milkshake :( I'm making healthier food choices

Unionhawk

DAMN YOU BOTH NOW I WANT ICE CREAM AND/OR A MILKSHAKE BUT IT'S SNOWING

This is why I hate The Bridge

HATE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlice you might want to listen to them more closely.

@spugsley skip the food, get only the milkshake. That's a valid compromise, right?

spugsley

1:22 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz :p hahaha

Unionhawk

SOMEONE THROW A MILKSHAKE AT YOUR SCREEN IN THE HOPES OF SENDING IT TO ME. OR SOMETHING.

That's how it works, right?

Scientists, work on that

food over internet protocol needs to be a thing

user15026

I would be okay with that

user15026

I have a blender and milk but no ice cream

user15026

(and my blender is dirty)

Unionhawk

There's a Ben and Jerry's down the street, but it is currently snowing

And I am currently lazy

StrixVaria

1:30 AM

Well, at least I saw what Dreadfell is like.

spugsley

be proud of me. I made a tuna sandwich. Yay good decisions

and kitty was given leftover tuna so now we are best fwiends

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk well, it's not quite food-over-IP, but there is the Alameda-Weehawken Burrito Tunnel.

Unionhawk

...what

Frank

@Unionhawk You say this like it should stop you.

Unionhawk

12 mins ago, by Unionhawk

And I am currently lazy

21 mins ago, by Unionhawk

This is why I hate The Bridge

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:39 AM

@Unionhawk The Alameda-Weehawken Burrito Tunnel. Surely you've heard of it.

Unionhawk

I have now

Frank

This entire account is spam. Burninate.

Yuuki

@Unionhawk You should get some trash bags and duct tape.

Unionhawk

Yeah, and tape some goddamn cookie sheets to my feet

No

I am not going out in the snow to get ice cream

Sterno

@StrixVaria Every Dreadfell escort I get is like that

Origami Robot

1:50 AM

Just make snow cream

Snow cream is better than ice cream

Unionhawk

Snow cream.

I want some variety of sweet thing but I HAVE NO SUCH THINGS T_T

this is the worst

Is this what it's like to not have all of the things?

Origami Robot

If I lived in Ohio, I'd have snow cream ingredients on hand all winter

Ktash

I made milkshakes the past two nights. They were good

You should do it

user15026

@OrigamiRobot I'm not sure I have ever done this in my life

user15026

Mostly because i don't trust the snow here in the city to be clean

Unionhawk

1:53 AM

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah

user15026

I should have done it when I lived at my parents in the middle of nowhere or when I visit them sometime

Unionhawk

This is not clean snow

It's also not a ton of snow

Gah. GAH I SAY

/summon cookies

nop

Yuuki

Hmm... I'm gonna go open my freezer... Oh hey, a Crunch bar.

Unionhawk

18 mins ago, by Unionhawk

21 mins ago, by Unionhawk

This is why I hate The Bridge

~~The Bridge~~ @Yuuki

user15026

I ate the last ice cream bar I had earlier today

Yuuki

1:58 AM

Everyone should just stop talking about food whenever I'm here. That way, there's less hate going around because I'll inevitably post pictures.

Sterno

@StrixVaria This Yeek Barbarian is so ridiculously bad.

I can't even spend my generics because the strength/con requirements are too high

Frank

It's official: Zarpedon's a dick.

Sterno

I started with like 8 con, 10 dex, and 16 str

Unionhawk

@Frank Yup!

Where are you at?

Frank

@Unionhawk End boss, I believe.

Unionhawk

2:01 AM

Are you at the part where Jack officially is an asshole yet?

Oh

Frank

Keep dying to her and the eternals.

Unionhawk

Zarpedon?

She not final

Frank

Yep

Unionhawk

Spoiler alert

You've got a decent amount of game left

Frank

Even after shutting down the laser?

Unionhawk

2:03 AM

Yep. You'll find out

Frank

Bloody hell.

I can fight Zarpaderp without much issue. It's those stupid eternals that get me.

And backpedaling into the stupid electricity.

Unionhawk

Yeah, the eternals are nasty

If you have a cryo weapon, use it

If they freeze they can't transform, and then you can get them while frozen

Frank

Nope. Just corrosive and shock.

Unionhawk

Welp

Frank

...and apparently a legendary fire laser, and a cyro assault rifle. No idea where I got them from.

And funzerking with the fire laser = dead.

Unionhawk

2:10 AM

For some reason, you playing claptrap is funny to me. I don't know why.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I just went down to the hotel's little 'buy overpriced convenience items!' fridge and there is ice cream but it is only bad flavors. :(

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Maybe the personality disconnect?

Then again, Claptrap has a personality disconnect with anyone who isn't bugnuts insane.

Unionhawk

o/

Yuuki

@Unionhawk You're regular insane, not bugnuts insane.

Unionhawk

Close enough

Yuuki

2:12 AM

Not even.

Unionhawk

Pretty much

Frank

Welp, there goes Mr. Big Bad Lazer.

What level should I expect to be around to finish the story?

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk should I get a milkshake from Cookout?

Unionhawk

And tell me all about it?

user15026

@OrigamiRobot milkshakes are always a a good choice

Unionhawk

2:24 AM

He just wants to make me milkshake jealous. I know it.

Calling it now.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot Stop tempting me

Ktash

@OrigamiRobot The answer to that is always yes

Unionhawk

Yeah, you should have replied to @LessPop_MoreFizz. I've already decided that I cannot acquire such things.

Ktash

@Unionhawk then you should get a milkshake too

Unionhawk

And/or will not

It's 9:30, and it's a 10+ minute walk to a place that can hook me up with such things.

So if I left now, I would probably freeze to death on the way back.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:29 AM

I am a 3-5 minute drive from cook out

and a milkshake would be pretty tasty.

GnomeSlice

Ktash

@Unionhawk Nope, just the right temperature to keep your ice cream cold.

GnomeSlice

Hey, who wants to play guess the gravatar

Unionhawk

It's several degrees below freezing and snowing.

And dark

Nope

Ktash

Alright, I'm bored and avoiding work. I'm gonna make food now

user15026

2:34 AM

Food is good

Ktash

And maybe a milkshake. Just for @Uni

Unionhawk

Goddammit I hate you guys

Except @AshleyNunn

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Hey, be happy. I can't have milkshakes.

Unionhawk

I REFUSE TO BE HAPPY

Ktash

its cold, you can go for hot chocolate. It just isn't quite as good

Unionhawk

2:37 AM

I need to buy all of the things

Ktash

Or this

Unionhawk

I was so happy when I saw that the girl scouts were doing online orders, but the girl scouts of western ohio are not

Yuuki

@Unionhawk What jerks.

Unionhawk

RIGHT?

It's also not quite cookie season

Almost

Origami Robot

I wish I was playing tome

I hate MtG

I'm quitting

Who wants to buy my collection?

GnomeSlice

2:40 AM

ME

Done

What, for how much?

You owe me $5000

@Sterno I actually succeeded on that one.

Sterno

@StrixVaria So, I carefully played my Yeek Barbarian. It was really tough, especially the first 4 levels or so, but I get him to level 8 and have nowhere to go except leave the Yeek land

You know where you come out? The back end of the halfing ruins dungeon, on the stairway by the Subject Z boss

He obliterated me

StrixVaria

2:46 AM

Sounds like I'm not missing out on much by not saving the Yeek guy in that dungeon.

Lazers

0

Q: Minecraft 1.7.10 Forge Crashing

I'm trying to use Forge and a KUDA shaders mod for the first time, and everything was going smoothly until I tried to create a new world and load it, it also does this with trying to load an existing world too. It crashes when it tries to load/create the world and shows a screen that says "Shutt...

minecraft mods minecraft-forge

StrixVaria

Although if you save the Yeek as a Yeek you unlock a class called Mindslayer or something.

Sterno

@StrixVaria I couldn't even save myself as a Yeek

StrixVaria

@Sterno Your life per level as an Archmage is -4. What does that even mean?

Oh I see. You literally lose 4 life per level, but your race generally gives you more than that.

Sterno

@StrixVaria -4 relative to your race

Yeek was 7 per level :P

yeek archmage with 3 per level would be hilarious

I always feel bad when I betray escorts to the Zigur, and the escort says "Thank you" as they portal out.

GnomeSlice

2:54 AM

fack another artist with a broken paypal system

anybody want to buy me this turboslash.bandcamp.com

it's a dollar, I'll give you a shovelware game or something

Origami Robot

Should you really be buying music when you owe me so much?

GnomeSlice

We didn't spit first, so no deal.

Lazers

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Q: Is there any other way to get metal scraps other than a crowbar in H1Z1?

I have been trying the Alpha and was wondering if anyone had found any way to get metal scrap other than the crowbar? I see lots of things being constructed, but I have not found any way to get the tool needed to farm the parts. Thanks, Spade

steam pc

Origami Robot

That's gross

You're gross

Ktash

we don't have a tag for h1z1 yet?

GnomeSlice

3:05 AM

yeah we do

he just didn't use it

Unionhawk

Nope

Unless...

Nope

Ktash

I just made h1z1

Lazers

3:37 AM

0

Q: How do i get my game back

On Christmas I got a 3ds xl with new super mario bros 2 gold edition. I wnated to do a system trasnfer from my old 3ds. when I did my Mario game was gone. Does anyone know how to get it back

3ds-xl

StrixVaria

4:03 AM

Died in the intro dungeon on the Archmage, but haven't died since.

Unionhawk

Holy crap at the snow

I wish I was in a place where snow was more fun than it is

Unionhawk

4:16 AM

►

inb4 @badp

Oh god what

Lazers

4:29 AM

0

Q: Minecraft LAN not working

I know the question has been asked before but I think this one may be a bit different. My daughter and I play LAN games all the time, including FTB minecraft packs, but if I try to open a LAN game with her on normal minecraft it doesn't work. Checked firewall setting. Tried her IP address, and...

minecraft

spugsley

Unionhawk

That cat is like "I will murder you"

Yuuki

ohai @spugsley

Ktash

The bridge was quiet so I was thinking it was really late, but it's really not that late yet

spugsley

:D

Unionhawk

4:39 AM

D:<

Ktash

Ö

I've been trying to watch house recently, but I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to make it through. Just too many parts I have to look away for :/

Lazers

0

Q: PSN problems while trying to sign in

I forgot my PSN password And the email,password associated with the account I also got a new PS3 any idea how to findout my password

psn

Yuuki

4:56 AM

@Lazers Forgot password and email linked to account? Probably SOL.

djsmiley2k

5:09 AM

i forgot all the things!

Unionhawk

Frank

5:52 AM

5

Handicapped Lifehacks

Proposed Q&A site for handicapped people looking to bypass life's everyday problems with simple tricks.

Currently in definition.

...

sigh

Origami Robot

6 hours ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

Oh god there's a variant of lifehacks.se that I can actually get behind and support.

6 hours ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

Like, I could actually imagine that serving a community and filling a need.

Yuuki

I don't feel like that should be tainted with the term "lifehacks".

Lazers

0

Q: Terraria Mobile - What to do after I have a full set of Crimson tools + Armor

Unfortunately, there is one thing that I do not know; I've broken all the crimson orbs I can find, I have a full set of Crimson armor and tools, but I don't know what to do next. I've beaten Skeletron, the eye of Cthuhulu, the brain of Cthuhulu, Goblin Army.

terraria-mobile

Lazers

6:46 AM

0

Q: Xbox 360 wil not connect

So, I had to stop using my Wired Connection because my Wife wanted to have her PC upstaired tethered. So, I go into my Xbox 360 S, enter the info, enter the MAC address in my Router. Everything looks good, until it tries to trst the connection. The password is incorrect. Both router and Xbox ...

xbox-360

Arperum

8:11 AM

@Frank If that should exist it should exist as a tag on lifehacks.se

No. 7892142

8:40 AM

@Frank Lifehack: Don't be overly proud; ask someone to help you instead.

Arperum

@No.7892142 That's not always possible. And sometimes terrible for your own selfworth.

No. 7892142

@Arperum I won't let the second part count as an argument. There not always being someone around, but which situations would require so-called "lifehacks" in this case? Or does "not putting your stuff in the upper shelves" when you're in a wheelchair qualify already?

Arperum

@No.7892142 I'm sorry, but the second part actually counts. Especially for people who where very competent in some area and suddenly can't do anything anymore and always have to ask anyone. I agree that the name lifehack is stupid though.

No. 7892142

8:57 AM

@Arperum So? That's how it is then, swallow your pride and get on with life. Maybe they can even still do it, it just takes way longer - even then asking someone is better than wasting and hour one something done in five minutes (in most cases), pride be damned. I still won't let it count, in short.

Arperum

@No.7892142 That's not how it works.* It has nothing to do with pride, selfworth is not pride, just like depression is not "just not feeling well". And again some people have literally noone to ask things too.

No. 7892142

@Arperum I wholeheartedly (yet still politely) disagree, then. As for having no-one to ask, I mentioned already that that's fine then.

Ktash

@No.7892142 Alright no. No. No no no no no no. Saying "swallow your pride" is a terrible and extremely toxic thing to say to someone, especially if they've had a trauma that has caused a disability. In no way shape or form is it ever going to be that simple for them in their lives. Never again will they have this, and they do not ever deserve to feel like less because they are disabled.

Arperum

@Ktash This. So much this.

Trent Hawkins

There's a guy a few houses down who mows & rakes his lawn while using crutches... Always makes me feel bad, as I put off mowing for as long as possible.

Arperum

9:03 AM

@TrentHawkins I think he'll refuse to let you help him though, even if you wanted too.

Trent Hawkins

@Arperum He would, I'm sure. (And I really really don't want to. I'm already taking care of 3 lawns. >.< )

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@Ktash Letting someone help you doesn't have to make one feel like less. In fact, they should be realistic about the situation - eventually - and see that some things won't be possible anymore. So I stick with what I said (even though it's fairly generalised and there are naturally more nuances to it).

Arperum

@No.7892142 It doesn't in all cases, but seriously, would you feel great about asking for help peeling potatos(see the one example question on that site)?

No. 7892142

@Arperum Depends on my disability, obviously. If I would need 3 hours to do it myself, then I would see it as a necessity. This has nothing to do with feeling good or bad about it.

Arperum

I know I would feel pretty bad about that, and I'd rather find some horribly complex way of doing it myself then asking for help.

@No.7892142 It has everything to do about how you feel about it.

Ktash

9:07 AM

@No.7892142 I'm glad that you have clearly lived your life being able bodied and being able to enjoy that. I'm glad that you haven't had to know how tough it is to struggle to do something so simple as to put your clothes on in the morning. But there are people out there who's lives change in an instant and they do. They can't do simple things on their own like go to the bathroom or get dressed or do things you take for granted every day.

Never ever ever should you tell this person to suck it up or swallow their pride

That minimizes their daily fight to be treated and to feel normal in an able-ist society, and their struggle to do the most basic of things

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@Ktash Ah, I was wondering how long we'd need to go down into the ad hominem depths.

@Arperum Maybe I'm just too rational about things. I either can or cannot do something well enough myself. How's having someone help you peeling while still doing it yourself sound as a solution? (It's the sensible one.)

Ktash

@No.7892142 Yes, I'm trying to show contrastive experiences for how you go through life versus how they do. I'm trying to point out things that will make you give extra consideration to your words

No. 7892142

@Ktash No, you make assumptions about myself and try to discredit my arguments with that. And I for one won't go down that road, I'm afraid.

Ktash

@No.7892142 I'm not at all trying to discredit you. So far, you're the only one presenting this opinion so I would have no one to discredit you to. I'm merely trying to make this a more personal relation because, in my experience, until this becomes a part of your life, it is a difficult thing to see

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@TrentHawkins I like this example. This man obviously doesn't need any help. He can do his work fine in a reasonable amount of time. Why would you help him?

Arperum

9:12 AM

@No.7892142 I cannot and will not have to ask someone over everytime I fancy eating potatoes. no thank you. I am very happy that i live on my own right now, if ever something happened I'd modify my house so it'd stay doable, I'll accept help, but fuck if I have to ask someone all the time.

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@Arperum You're still assuming you have no-one to help you - I had already acknowledged that case, so we're talking about different things here.

@Arperum (On a lighter note: The obvious lifehack here would be to buy pre-peeled potatoes!)

badp

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Arperum

@No.7892142 I agree there. But it was just a stupid example. I generally don't buy potatoes, I get them from my parents who grow them :p

badp

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@Arperum I felt the biggest burden always is the feeling of "wasting the other persons' time". Which is silly, most of the time, because the person helping is (most of the time...) doing it because they want to help, not because they have to.

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