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@fbueckert And unskippable cutscenes of any kind.

Rumor has it that the head of Microsoft's Xbox division is leaving for Zynga.

@OrigamiRobot I've only read your quote, so have no context, but the problem with shopping advice was never the fact that it we were giving the person shopping advice. The problem was that it generated answers that were "vote for your favorite". Simply because someone might use an answer to a question when they go shopping does not alone make the question bad (though it might well be bad anyway for other reasons)

@fbueckert Yeah, I always watch credits the first time (I also sit all the way through movie credits), but I like the freedom to be able to skip later.

user43095

@FAE you were with... What...

fbueckert

6:11 PM

117 children. At least a dozen or more lost on the end boss.

user15026

@FAE Oh good :)

user15026

I really want to bake a cake today but I have no milk

@jeffreylin_ What?

@Sterno The problem is, as @kalina said, that it is not a problem they are facing in a game. I am not, and never did, make any claims about shopping recs.

user43095

@FAE nvm

6:12 PM

@jeffreylin_ Jochem and I live together.

user43095

What the hell, I rotate my iPad and see the star list.

@OrigamiRobot ??? Isn't such a claim exactly what I replied to which you quoted?

@AshleyNunn We need a new oven and when we get one, I may try baking Things. Our current one is very old though, is a gas oven, and only gets as high as like 180C. :(

user43095

DATA ACCEPTED: @FREDLEY FINGERED @ORIGAMIROBOT

Which is not enough to cook stuff properly.

6:13 PM

@Sterno No, I said shopping advice. Meaning: Nothing to do with playing a game. I'm not saying it's a shopping rec.

@jeffreylin_ Old

@jeffreylin_ THAT'S WRONG

@OrigamiRobot Okay. I guess I don't understand the distinction between shopping advice and shopping recommendations.

user15026

@FAE Yeah, not so much, but I totally suggest the baking of things when you are able. I think this week I will get my kitchen clean to make the chelsea buns I wanted to make for my mom

Why is there no easily googlable tool for flipping ascii art? This is a common operation!

user43095

6:14 PM

@fredley 2h ago is old?

user15026

In Bridge-time it is pretty ancient

@AshleyNunn I do not know what a chelsea bun is. What is a chelsea bun?

@jeffreylin_ Yes!

@FAE Oh dear god

Also I am feeling crappy so I bought myself cookie-dough ice cream today.

@FAE Lumps of pure awesome

user15026

6:15 PM

Chelsea bun

The Chelsea bun is a type of currant bun that was first created in the 18th century at the Bun House in Chelsea, an establishment favoured by Hanoverian royalty which was demolished in 1839. The bun is made of a rich yeast dough flavoured with lemon peel, cinnamon or a sweet spice mixture. Prior to being rolled into a square spiral shape the dough is spread with a mixture of currants, brown sugar and butter. The process of making this bun is very similar to that involved in producing the cinnamon roll. After cooked traditionally the chelsea bun is glazed with cold water and sugar, it is...

user15026

@fredley Amen

@Sterno Shopping advice is just a term that I am using. If I thought it was a shopping rec, I would have used that close reason.

user15026

Although, a lot of ones here omit the currants

@AshleyNunn So really rich cinnamon bun kinda things?

I dunno if I'd like currants in them.

6:15 PM

@AshleyNunn Proper chelsea buns are heavy

As they are about 98% golden syrup

user15026

@FAE Yeah, they are similar, but I like them better than cinnamon rolls

user15026

@fredley Yes, they are a total sugar bomb of heaviness and delight

@AshleyNunn They almost look like they would crunch.

Ktash

... now I want a cinnamon roll

@fredley Is this not just a cinnamon bun?

Why do you have to have different names for everything?

6:16 PM

@StrixVaria No. Not it is not

user15026

@FAE The tops are kinda crispy and then you get to the soft bits and it is just mmmmmm

I would eat that.

Just look at the ooze on this one:

user15026

@fredley droooooools

@OrigamiRobot Okay. I wasn't trying to be pedantic. I've just seen some questions closed because "you could only possibly use this information if you were trying to decide whether or not to make a purchase, and we close shopping rec questions, so we close this too!" which bugs me because "information is being used to make a purchase" was not the reason shopping recs were bad

6:17 PM

@AshleyNunn Living near Fitzbillies in Cambridge is amazing

And I did not understand what you were saying (and still don't, really, but I'm cool with that)

James

Are those cinnamon rolls?

@James Shut up

Man, now I kinda want a pastry but I just got back from the store and need to eat dinner and I have no pastries.

user15026

@James Nope, better

6:18 PM

@fredley That looks like it would be an entire meal.

James

@AshleyNunn ... Just like your response is over @fredleies :P

@FAE I ate one and a half once

user15026

@FAE They are definitely a committment

@Sterno I am saying the information can only be used for shopping so it's not a problem they are facing in a game. "You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on actual problems that you face."

@FAE I almost died of pleasure and bloating

user15026

6:19 PM

@fredley I can usually manage one, but then I curl up in a pastry coma for a while

@fredley I think I could maybe manage half, dunno about a whole. I'm not much of a sweets person.

user43095

@fredley looks like the most spiciest thing ever.

@fredley hahaha

@AshleyNunn Pastry coma is the right phrase

@fredley I get that from Jochem's grandma's chocolate cake.

6:20 PM

@FAE Chocolate cake.... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

She's old school, so it's all real butter, real cream, etc.

@FAE I will aim to use this phrase more often. A side-effect is that I must eat more sweet pastries...

Now I want pound cake.

@FAE All baking should be with proper ingredients.

80 bajillion eggs.

I try not to think about my arteries when I eat her desserts, but it's so worth it.

6:21 PM

@OrigamiRobot By this logic, should steam-trading-cards be off-topic?

@FAE All the eggs. All the butter. All the flour. All the proper cocoa

@OrigamiRobot "In a game" versus "Gaming related" does seem like it's worth a meta topic though, rather than giving the mistaken impression of "this is shopping rec, which we have talked to death about closing"

not trying to be pedantic, real question

And now it's food time. poofs

@Sterno Agree. "Teach a man to fish"-type questions should be on topic. "Tell me which fish is best"-type questions are still awful.

6:22 PM

gizmodo.com/…

@OrigamiRobot But you may be totally right that it's off-topic for the reason that it's not about a game, but rather about purchasing a game. I'm less sure, but not enough to bother to vote to reopen. :)

@OrigamiRobot An actual problem I face could be that I don't know what specs on a video card mean. I don't know how to tell which card is better. I'm not asking you to tell me. I'm asking you to teach me how to make a decision. That is a good question for this site, IMO.

user15026

@FAE omg yes

fbueckert

6:24 PM

@FAE I would eat stuff like this ALL DAY.

I loves me my metabolism.

@Sconibulus If I had my way they would be. I just don't care enough to try to convince others.

@fbueckert High five for impenetrable metabolism!

fbueckert

@fredley high five

Eat cake and sit around all day! Be underweight!

I don't really see that kind of question being bad for the site, though. It's related to gaming. It's answerable without the "vote for your favorite" crap that plagues shopping recs.

6:24 PM

I just ate a whole packet of jelly babies! It was great!

@StrixVaria I'm not interesting in having a big discussion here. I think that question is off-topic and voted as such. I am explaining my reasons concerning that action to the people who ask, but I really don't care past that. I didn't try to rally others to close it and I'm not going to try to get it closed again if it gets reopened.

I don't even know what specific question we're talking about.

Q: What are the Indie Royale Bonuses?

By the way, does anyone here know who @NoneOfYourBusiness is? He seems to think so from the comments, but I have no idea

-3

When you purchase multiple bundles over at Indie Royale, you can unlock multiple downloads as seen in your collection: What are those bonuses?

indieroyale

28 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

49 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

I've done my duty, whatever else happens happens.

Do not believe that is off topic.

6:31 PM

@murgatroid99 Was he the guy that was shut down for seeding a month ago or so?

I wish I could just hide specific questions.

@Sconibulus I don't know. I just had this deja vu moment when he said that we closed it because it was him, and I remember thinking both times that I had no idea who he was or why anyone on the site would have a grudge against him

meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/users/28015/…

He's the guy who got mad about an answer that said some modders are lazy and jerks.

That's probably why you remember his name.

Oh, I remember that question.

And because his name is memorable.

Q: Ongoing and continuing harassment

6:34 PM

I think it's actually because of his comments on this question

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Writing You'll get your question answered just fine with the sol-survivor tag to the comments and then locking it is not cool and not funny. It is excessive trolling. Also, other people started the edit war. I explained why I want this tag there but it was not even taken into considerati...

support

user15026

@murgatroid99 Oh yes that one

Q: Is it appropriate to remove "Thanks" from posts?

Also:

-27

How do you open the door to Mr. Burke's office without being detected? People keep editing my post and removing the "Thanks". That is outragous and I hereby report all changers for harassment. I say thanks whenever I want to and I have the right to do so, given by the constitution of my count...

support editing

@Fluttershy I love that he referenced the Constitution, as though it gives him the right to say whatever he wants on other people's websites

user15026

@Fluttershy Ah yes, that beautiful piece of work

Why hasn't he been booted yet?

6:40 PM

@murgatroid99 I love how, despite his mentioning free speech, he got butthurt over LessPop calling someone a jerk.

Also, dupe!

@Fluttershy Obviously, having the freedom to say thanks is completely different from having the freedom to call someone a jerk /s

To be fair, he was right on the Thanks one. I thought the official SE stance was "Well, we'd prefer no fluff, but don't edit war the person over it", and he was definitely getting edit warred on that one

@murgatroid99 Freedom of Speech is one of the most misunderstood rights in human history.

Er, he was right about that bit of it. not about how it greatly changes his post, vandalizes it, everyone is trolling him, etc etc etc

@Sterno On the other hand, the first edit to remove "thanks" was correct, and his edit to put it back was not. There shouldn't have been a third edit, but there shouldn't have been a second one either

6:44 PM

So, how about that chocolate?

Or a 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th...

:)

user15026

@Powerlord wants chocolate

@AshleyNunn and to find your missing 3DS games, amirite?

Blem

►

@Sterno true, I just mean that he started the edit war by making the first improper edit

user15026

6:45 PM

@Powerlord cries yes

Blog - Stack Exchange: The Great Edit Wars

Jeff Atwood on March 03, 2009

Alas, Stack Overflow has fallen prey to that dread disease that plagues all wiki systems: The Edit War.

We’re not exactly like wikipedia, because we are a hybrid system, but it’s worth scanning the official Wikipedia definition:

Edit warring is the confrontational use of edits to win a content dispute. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.

The most common measure of edit warring is the three-revert rule, often abbreviated 3RR. The three-revert …

Grumpy Lazers

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Q: CIV V- Can you play a map on Multiplayer

I Looked at a post here: Is there any way to play a custom map in multiplayer? but the link does not work for me anymore. Can someone provide a new link or just say how it is done please? Thank You.

civilization-5 multiplayer mods

I mean, true, I guess, but one revert does not an edit war make.

Editing is welcomed and encouraged. However, if the author of the post is resistant to your editing changes, even a perfectly legitimate edit based on the above rules, be the bigger man (or woman) and let them have it their way.

First edit: Great! Second edit: Not so great, but whatevs man, you really want that "thanks", have it.

Everything after: people being jerks :)

@Sterno OK, that's a good point, but on the other hand "if you aren’t comfortable with the community editing your posts, Stack Overflow may not be the right website for you"

Night Vale is amazing.

6:49 PM

@murgatroid99 Yeah, dude definitely overreacted.

I just now noticed his actual meta question was getting changed on him too. And reverted. And reverted back.

Probably not the best way for us to deal with that. :P

In fact, looking at it now, dude got trolled hard.

@murgatroid99 jesus what an asshole

@AshleyNunn She makes this delicious dessert called a mango roll and it has fresh cut up mango rolled up in this dough with some cream and like almond slices and omg.

@Fluttershy This guy must have had a different name in the past.

I wonder who he was.

@StrixVaria user numbernumbers IIRC

I don't remember what the numbers were.

It was just something kind of generic.

I just knew that he wasn't called NoneOfYourBusiness when I downvoted that.

6:53 PM

Yeah, I remember that as well.

@StrixVaria user28015

That's all he was before NoneofYourBusiness.

Oh well.

I thought it was going to be gameaddict or something.

For added drama.

Thanks for bringing me some drama this afternoon, The Bridge.

Good way to start a Monday.

Whatever happened to JT? Or ronnie? I'd rather deal with them...

Remember this is a publicly viewable transcript and calling people names in here prooooobably isn't really going to further engender them to community.

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6:57 PM

@Fluttershy I added "ronnie" as a hero name in Rogue Legacy

So far, ronnie has underperformed.

@Sterno You are a horrible person.

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@Sterno Aww... He hasn't been pro much?

@FAE :)

@FAE From his latest comments, he seems to have given up on the community already

@AshleyNunn I'm really hoping my 3DS is waiting for me at home :)

6:58 PM

@murgatroid99 It still doesn't do us any favors in general, you know?

burn baby burn

You can add hero names?

@ArdaXi Yeah, there are text files you can edit

:o

@FAE When people go out of their way to make it clear they have no interest in being part of the community and in fact actively lash out against that community.....

Q: How can I rename my characters?

6:59 PM

1

I've noticed that people are able to give their characters custom names, but I haven't been able to find any method to do so in-game. Do I need to unlock it, or is there something I'm missing?

rogue-legacy

@BenBrocka We still can, and should, be better than that, IMO.

@fredley Arggh! Potions!

@Sconibulus No, chemicals. Completely different

NOMOCLOCK

@BenBrocka I think one of the first things he said in here was "I just really try to ignore anything you say" or something to that effect...

As usual @FAE is correct. We can be dicks to each other all we want in here, because we kind of know that's the atmosphere, but doing it to outsiders comes across super mean.

7:00 PM

Horse, barn door and all. Though the best thing to do is just ignore them

@fredley Chemicals = Potions + Science

Just like Technology = Magic + Science

(probably because it's actually legitimately mean)

There's no need to engage people who have no intent of being civil or constructive

@fredley Why does the thing at the bottom say "Coins (0)" no matter how many I have?

@fredley I don't really like the way the games play now

7:01 PM

Also, there is no clear indication whether the buttons at the bottom do anything

@fredley I am confused.

@fredley I just got -9 coins

I'm on 4

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7:03 PM

Ah, weather is over, back to listening

@fredley also, brick breaker kind of plays terribly

I think I'll add everyone here as Rogue Legacy heroes

I have no idea whether I'll get the genders right :P

@SaintWacko I'm a dude.

I do not like the eight character limit

@SaintWacko I'm a hyper-advanced genderless alien that doesn't wear pants.

7:08 PM

@MBraedley Hero... heroine... Hm. I don't seem to have a text file for that

@SaintWacko I am a robot.

I am experiencing a severe lack of applicable text files

starcraft-2 mass-effect-3 steam diablo-3 the-darkness-2 achievements skyrim

The link doesn't work anymore for me, can anyone help? — Elmarkador 41 mins ago

And this, ladies and gentleman, is why we explain stuff in answers and don't just link.

Wipqozn

whoa, whoa, whooooooooa

jmfsg ♦, Buenos Aires, Argentina

11.3k 9 67 143

@jmfsg changed his gravatar!

@Wipqozn He's been that way for a bit, at least on twitter.

Wipqozn

7:13 PM

This is almost as crazy as the time @OrigamiRobert changed his gravatar for the first time.

Or powerlord.

@Wipqozn Now what will he do in case of zombies? D:

@Wipqozn But his name's not Ralph! He's not allowed to use that!

Wipqozn

@Ullallulloo Die.

@ArdaXi Ignoring the weather ruins the pacing! D:

@Wipqozn Mine is still the same guy, just with my... personal touches.

7:15 PM

@Powerlord Not invincible though.

Bonus points if you can name what TF2 level that is in the background.

user15026

@SaintWacko That would be aweosme

user15026

I am waiting for my reader but since it is Canada day it will likely be a few more days

...which would basically require you to read back through my posts until you find where I mention it was c... I've said too much.

@AshleyNunn What kind didja get this time?

7:18 PM

@Powerlord I'll throw out 2Fort. It's probably wrong but still a guess.

Hmm, Telltale Games's Walking Dead DLC come out this week.

@MBraedley Good guess. Wrong, but good guess!

@Powerlord Yayyyyy! :3

Tuesday, July 2nd – PlayStation Network (North America)
Wednesday, July 3rd – PC/Mac (Steam, Telltale Games Store)
Friday, July 5th – Xbox Live (Worldwide)
Wednesday, July 10th – PlayStation Network (Europe)
Thursday, July 11th – iOS (Worldwide)

So, not this week for all versions, but eh.

@Powerlord Junction, isn't it?

I have the PC version, so I'm good.

7:20 PM

@FEichinger That's wrong too.

user15026

@Fluttershy Sony Reader - Ben has had his for forever and hasnt killed it yet, so I fugured it was a good plan. Also could get a refurb one for $80 which is nice

MBraedley at least had the right game mode!

@AshleyNunn I hope your luck is better with that one.

user15026

@Fluttershy I am hoping so

Do we really need a humblebundle or indieroyale tag?

Q: Does the 1.6 minecraft launcher have command-line options to go directly to a profile?

7:23 PM

Timesheets are the worst.

Grumpy Lazers

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I have two kids with different minecraft accounts on the same Linux computer. Previously, I made each of them an icon which ran this: java -cp ~/minecraft/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame -u=email@example.org -p=password servername.example.org:3000 with a separate email and password...

minecraft

@Fluttershy I don't ignore it, but I can do other things while listening to it

Not so for the rest

Ha, Steam just one-upped GoG's Rise of the Triad thing

SUMMER SALE?

No, just that they give you 4 free games while GoG only gives you 3.

I don't think the sale started last year until after Canada Day and U.S. Independence Day.

7:29 PM

It started on Independence Day.

IIRC

@AshleyNunn THey took toronto away from me. :(

But I are probably getting Montreal in August.

> Build your own levels, mods and share them SOON™ with Valve's Steam Workshop

But first, DC and MD and NoVA.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Really? Because from what I can tell from Googling it, it started on July 12th last year.

I AM BORED

points at @LessPop_MoreFizz

Your fault!

@Fluttershy no

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Bah humbug.... but montreal isnt too too far, I suppose

7:32 PM

@Powerlord Maybe 2 years ago?

I definitely remember one of the sales being july 4th themed.

@kalina Listen to Night Vale.

@OrigamiRobot Listen man, she's not invading your privacy, she's just trying to organize your fridge. And borrow your WiFi.

@LessPop_MoreFizz what? who? why?

@kalina Night Vale Radio it is a podcast that is very creepy and very funny.

Think local small town community radio news from The Secret World, to get an idea of the vibe.

@LessPop_MoreFizz And she has connections to a vague, yet menacing, government agency!

@LessPop_MoreFizz what is this in response to?

@kalina I am of the opinion that the Woman With No Face ought to be elected Mayor of Night Vale. @OrigamiRobot is a supporter of Hiram McDaniels, a five headed dragon who stands accused of insurance fraud and other crimes, and is not even a legal resident of Night Vale.

7:36 PM

@kalina He wants the Faceless Old Woman to be mayor!

ok, I just realised that I don't care

@LessPop_MoreFizz Look man, keep your racism out of here!

Oh sweet, sweet Whiskey. Haven't had you in a while.

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm on like episode 4, this makes a very limited amount of sense to me

so, Dexter S8E01

everybody dies

7:39 PM

@kalina Quelle surprise.

Everybody knows that everybody dies, but nobody knows it like him.

@ArdaXi That's the amount of sense it should make.

user15026

@ArdaXi Same here

@kalina Special guest writer GRRM?

@OrigamiRobot As in I only know Hiram McDaniels. And I didn't know the mayor was elected.

I assumed the City Council would just appoint someone.

7:40 PM

@StrixVaria er, what?

@ArdaXi The mayor isn't elected. Hiram just expressed interest in the position.

Oh.

Figures.

It shouldn't take too long for me to catch up

Well at least next weekend will be nice...

So, I asked Jason Fink (one of the two writers), a question and got an answer;

> So are we going to get some hard nosed campaign coverage of the race for mayor between Hiram McDaniels and the Faceless Old Woman? I'd love to hear Cecil burnish his Serious Journalist credentials and moderate a debate. Pulitzer committee? Are you listening to this? (Do they give out Pulitzers for radio journalism?)

His Response:

> There are plans. They might involve a live recorded debate in front of a real audience. Who knows? This certainly will not be the last we hear from Mara's Faceless Old Woman. Also there's another special guest star coming later in the summer. I can't say who she is yet, but she's a main cast member on a relatively recent and well-liked sci-fi show.

Emphasis mine.

They still make sci-fi TV shows?

7:53 PM

@Sterno Syfy tv shows

Siffy!