The Bridge

fredley

4:01 PM

Oh dear, I'm feeling quite tipsy.

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot I had three of those.

badp

Protip: if you don't want to spend 8 minutes brawling last point as red on barnblitz, you must spend 8 minutes brawling the second point - which is definitely more fun

...or you can play barnblitz_pro, although I'm not sure how I feel about that change

Sterno

@gnomeslice's ban ends in 2 days!

fredley

@Sterno I thought it was longer than that

FEichinger

Does say 2 days, though :P

fredley

4:14 PM

@FEichinger 89 days

Site ban ends in 2, Chat ban ends in 89

Sterno

@fredley boooooo

FEichinger

Yep. And the site ban was the ban in question here.

fredley

My guess: meta comments will become gnomeslice.chat.se

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kalina

4:29 PM

GnomeSlice should be unbanned from chat when his site ban expires tbh

fredley

@kalina Yeah. Having one but not the other is just cause for abuse of one or the other

Grace Note

@fredley This strikes me as a needless accusation that GnomeSlice is nothing but trouble such that if he can't do things on chat, he must ruin the main site, which then suggests that the ban shouldn't lift.

So if you trust him enough that you think his ban should be lifted in both places, you should trust him enough to believe he won't mess up the main site when just the one ban is lifted.

2

fredley

@GraceNote I'm suggesting that he will want to communicate with us, having been cut off for so long, so will use an inappropriate medium to do so.

Sterno

I say lift them both because I miss @gnomeslice in chat. :)

fredley

I say lift both, because it reduces the incentive for gnome to do the wrong thing.

badp

4:35 PM

@Sterno So you don't trust him?

Grace Note

@fredley We've talked to him many times about this, so I am pretty sure he won't be stupid about it.

Grumpy Lazers

0

Q: Can’t find a switch in Cave 2

(Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II, GameCube) In most (or all?) map variants of Cave 2 there is a barrier blocking the way to two brownish boxes. It’s in the corner of a room with a little lake and waterfall, if that helps. It’s a usual barrier where you have to find the corresponding switch, ...

phantasy-star-online

0

Q: I'm vilified and don't get attacked

Ok, I know from previous questions that the whole reputation and karma thing of FA:NV is a bit wierd but now I can't make heads or tails from it. I have been vilified with Caesar's Legion pretty much from the start. Today I bumped into Cottonwood Cove from the south. It made for excellent sniping...

fallout-new-vegas

fredley

@GraceNote Fair enough. How much I trust him doesn't come into it anyway.

Sterno

@badp Fixed

badp

@Sterno So you don't want to say that you trust him? :P

Sterno

4:36 PM

@badp I remain carefully neutral!

fredley

Do you or don't you say you don't or do trust him?

Sterno

I have no recollection of that, Senator.

fredley

HOME TIME

badp

REMINDER

We use CC-BY-SA

The Minecraft wiki uses CC-BY-NC-SA

Those are not compatible (both ways) and you can't copy paste willy nilly from one to the other

Ronan Forman

@badp Oh right, because they're both share alike, and you wouldn't be sharing alike.

badp

4:42 PM

@RonanForman Precisely :)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Ah, yeah, the troublesome SA clause

Viral licenses, tsk tsk

badp

eh, them's the breaks

Steam Introduces Game Subscription Plans: http://bit.ly/12nhgj6

Tweeted by steam_games on April 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

> To be billed 39,95€ today, then auto-renewed for 14,95€ every 30 day(s).

That tweet sounded way scarier than it should've

Grace Note

Finish your TF2 patching thing yet, badp?

bwarner

A massively multi-player indie game? That seems like an oxymoron.

badp

@GraceNote Yeah, took me upwards of four hours

bwarner

4:48 PM

Massively multiplayer implies lots of hardware, networking infrastructure, billing infrastructure, and tons of development time. How does an indie accomplish all that?

badp

@bwarner ...a huge wad of starting cash?

I mean, it's not the first of its kind

Path of Exile is arguably another indie MMORPG with cosmetic-only premium items

(arguably)

bwarner

@badp I guess. But I'm guessing there isn't a lot of venture capital around MMORPGs these days.

badp

At any rate, the whole point of the tweet is that the billing infrastructure is completely outsourced to Steam

which, I suppose, will be getting a cut of both the one time payment and the recurring ones

Powerlord

@badp Since Steam's sites are blocked here, what's this about?

Blem

@badp you need better internet

Ben Brocka

4:51 PM

@Powerlord steam allows MMO subscription pricing

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Not for all apps, I'm assuming

badp

Well, the announcement link goes straight to the store page of the first game that implements it

"Darkfall Unholy Wars"

that said I guess that any app can implement it if they so desire

(and if they are okay with the Steam cuts)

"To be billed 0,50€ today, then auto-renewed for 0,50€ every 1 day(s)" sounds like something that can be done now anyway.

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy Had?

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot Sold 'em.

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy Did you sell them when they were at $45 each?

badp

4:55 PM

Also (@BenBrocka) more FIM news

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot Yup.

OrigamiRobot

Nice.

bwarner

I haven't bought magic cards in almost two decades. I was scanning channel fireball the other day to see if any of my old cards had any value. There is only one card that I used to have that is over $100. And its a land (and uncommon to boot).

OrigamiRobot

@bwarner Which one?

bwarner

At least I still have my full Collector's Edition

@OrigamiRobot Karakas

OrigamiRobot

4:59 PM

:(

Karakas is so goooood

bwarner

Yah, it was nothing special at the time, but now that there are so many legendary creatures, I can see why it would be popular. Especially since there is no downside, other than having multiples in your deck means you could only play the first one.

OrigamiRobot

@bwarner If it makes you feel any better, it only reached that price recently.

@bwarner Specifically in EDH where ever player has a legendary creature as a general.

Before EDH, it was only $40

And probably that was only because of its age.

bwarner

Unfortunately I don't seem to have it anymore. There are a bunch of cards I remember having that I can no longer locate. Either I traded them long ago and forgot it, or I lost them in one of my many moves.

OrigamiRobot

Do you have any cards now?

Yawus

I remember buying Magic cards just for the artwork and flavor text. Still don't know how to play the actual game.

bwarner

5:02 PM

Yah, I've actually started playing with my 7 year old recently. Using all my old cards (at least the ones I could find)

Powerlord

I got rid of my Magic cards over a decade ago.

OrigamiRobot

@bwarner Ah, I was going to say I might be interested in them.

@Yawus is a pony now? Truly this is a sign of the end times.

Yawus

End times are fun. It's when the exciting stuff happens.

Powerlord

@badp @badp @badp ...change OrigamiRobot's avatar to a pony!

Yawus

Falling stars, ever-burning fires, zombie hordes, etc. It's like a video game in real life!

badp

5:05 PM

@Powerlord I almost did that yesterday! Give me a break.

Ask again next year

kalina

@fredley not sure I would go as far as 'abuse', I do think he's had enough punishment though

me saying anything isn't going to change it though so I guess I will just be quiet

bwarner

Yah, I don't think they're worth enough to bother selling, I only collected from about 3rd edition to Ice Age. The Collector's Edition seems to be fetching a nice price these days, but I figure that should keep going up, so I'm holding on to it.

Yawus

@kalina What'd he get banned for anyway? I think I started participating in chat after he got banned.

Powerlord

Also, I don't know what's going on with the TF2Items extension, but for whatever reason, when my plugin gives someone a Huntsman after forcing them to change classes to Sniper, the Huntsman has 26 arrows instead of 13.

badp

@Yawus We told him to not say dumb things. He said dumb things.

Yawus

5:08 PM

Schmuck bait at its finest, I guess.

badp

@bwarner That is incorrect

Powerlord

@badp Bacon?

bwarner

OK, I'll stay out of it

badp

We warned him to stop with direct insults and explicit pictures, and that the next offense would be 6 months.

Yawus

These people around me are really loud...

And talking about weird things.

badp

5:10 PM

He skirted close to the line a few times and then crossed it, so we had no choice.

Yawus

I think they're having a loud argument about whose broken D&D character would beat whose.

It makes me cringe every time one of them yells. Very loudly.

badp

I banned him from both sides when I should've banned him only from chat. He circumvented the site ban, saying it was obvious that the site ban was in mistake.

We told him it's not his call to make and that he should've respected the ban anyhow, so he got a few months off the main site too.

Powerlord

OK, wtf Visual Studio? Why did you not offer to upgrade the VC++ 9 project I just opened?

badp

This is the full, true story as far as I can recall it.

(Ban lengths are inflated by this not being his first site ban.)

kalina

@badp are you really disclosing actual ban reasons to random people?

:o

OrigamiRobot

5:13 PM

@badp Certified Fresh

badp

@kalina It beats having people guess incorrectly and circulate these incorrect guesses with alarming regularity

kalina

@badp at least then you didn't give out any information

badp

This isn't even the first time I write out the full story

kalina

YOU'VE DONE THIS MULTIPLE TIMES?

badp

heh, Gnome was the first person to circulate a distorted version of this story

Jin

5:15 PM

feed me

badp

We said:

Coronus

@kalina Must... not... star.

badp

5 mins ago, by badp

We warned him to stop with direct insults and explicit pictures, and that the next offense would be 6 months.

He said:

GUYS NEXT FLAG IS SIX MONTHS PLEASE DON'T FLAG ME

Yawus

@kalina Oh, are we not allowed to ask about reasons for bans?

My bad.

kalina

@badp I remember him saying that

badp

5:15 PM

@Yawus Those are private by default, but this was a rather public incident

kalina

@Yawus no you can ask, I just didn't expect the mod who pulled the trigger to go an explain the details

badp

and I'd rather fight misinformation with disclosure than sit pretty and let it spread

kalina

@badp you'd rather not watch chinese whispers happen?

badp

@Jin what would you like? I'm afraid I'm short on bacon

Ronan Forman

@badp Do you mean incident?

Jin

5:17 PM

@badp I eat stars

9

don't star that!

10

Coronus

Wouldn't want you to go hungry.

Ronan Forman

@Jin You've discovered the not-so-secret art of star whoring.

badp

wonders why he shouldn't change "don't star that!" to "OM NOM NOM"

OrigamiRobot

Jul 22 '12 at 19:42, by OrigamiRobot

Don't you people know I use chat stars as fuel? You just shortened my life by 5 years!

Jin

I'm pretty sure that 90% of the time in this room, stars are used for passive aggressive/ironic asshatery.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

5:19 PM

@badp MOD FIGHT MOD FIGHT MOD FIGHT

Yawus

FEichinger

Saying "Don't star that." is the easiest way to get starred into oblivion.

badp

@Jin it's mostly out of context stuff to the poster's detriment

OrigamiRobot

Jul 18 '12 at 17:28, by OrigamiRobot

Specifically, I love starring messages like "Don't star that" instead of starring the message they requested not be starred.

Yawus

PaperStare @Jin

OrigamiRobot

5:20 PM

@Jin ಠ_ಠ

badp

bad Yawus!

Jin

@badp I should totally start whoring stars by dropping by here once in a whlie and say random stuff.

badp

You don't give the man that's given us the gift of lazers the stink eye!

3

Yawus

Oh, are we not allowed to use that script anymore?

@badp Oh, that.

Coronus

PaperStare @Yawus

OrigamiRobot

5:21 PM

@Yawus ಠ_ಠ

FEichinger

PaperStare @badp

OrigamiRobot

@badp ಠ_ಠ

Ronan Forman

Hmmm....

PaperStare @OrigamiRobot PaperStare

OrigamiRobot

The best way to get stars is to say anything while also being @Mana

FEichinger

@RonanForman Nope, doesn't work.

Ronan Forman

5:22 PM

Awww shucks.

SaintWacko

We have some good pins today

Coronus

@badp I wasn't aware that the PaperStare smelled bad.

Unionhawk

@RonanForman We have long established that this doesn't work

SaintWacko

Also, my first pin!

Yawus

To be fair, I didn't know who made Lazers.

badp

5:23 PM

Well he gave them to us on the main site

Ronan Forman

@Unionhawk Did we establish it while I was here? I think not!

badp

when you hover on "Ask Question"

Ronan Forman

Hrumppppfffff.....

badp

Lazers the bot, I believe, was created by yours truly if I'm not wrong

Coronus

@Unionhawk It does, however, usually result in being called an amateur.

OrigamiRobot

5:24 PM

@Lazers was forged in the heart of a dying sun.

badp

if he wasn't created by me, I gave him its name

OrigamiRobot

@Coronus I lost track of my nested quotes and I'm being lazy.

badp

Oct 19 '10 at 21:37, by sjohnston

Badp, could you do me a favor? Change "lazers" to "lasers" in the subtitle of this room...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

> US President Barack Obama has warned his daughters that if they get tattoos, he and his wife will get matching ones on the same place on their bodies.

4

FEichinger

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Well that's definitely a deterrent.

Yawus

5:26 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I'm not sure if that's really good way to keep them from getting tattoos or a really bad way...

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Will they keep up with their threats is the real question.

Yawus

Can you imagine if they somehow become Republicans and tattoo "Palin 2016" on their arms or forehead?

That'd be awkward.

Jin

@Yawus it could be worse... they could get a misspelled Chinese character tattoo

Yawus

You can't really misspell Chinese characters...

badp

Whatever's the ideogram equivalent of "Whoops, I meant to write "duck." The keys are like REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER"

Jin

5:29 PM

@Yawus yes you can...

I've seen chinese char tattoo missing strokes, or worse, mirrored..

Yawus

You can write them incorrectly, but I'm not sure if that fits in the definition of "misspelling".

Jin

@Yawus well, that'd be the equivalence of misspelling in English?

Yawus

I've always thought of spelling as something specific to phonetic alphabets.

But I could be wrong.

badp

"misdrawn"

Coronus

Misstroked?

FEichinger

5:32 PM

@Coronus ... Oh god, why?

Jin

hanzismatter.blogspot.com

@Coronus TWSS

Yawus

@Coronus That has all sorts of connotations that I don't want to think about.

@Jin The second one made me facepalm. English -> Chinese does not work on a letter-by-letter basis.

Jin

@Yawus I know right? I've seen so many of them...

I blame Firefly

Coronus

@Jin Wait, what?

Yawus

The few episodes of Firefly I watched had surprisingly good pronunciation for Westerners.

Jin

5:35 PM

@Coronus plus.google.com/u/0/+ThinkGeek/posts/U95S5wxrbpE

Yawus

Still had to think it out a couple times before it translated though.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Yawus The characters all speak perfect English and truly atrocious Chinese

Yawus

Still atrocious, but better accents than I've seen. Or heard, rather.

FEichinger

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Which kinda does make sense.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I mean, after watching half the episodes and before reading the Wikipedia article I couldn't even tell that there were speaking Chinese

badp

5:37 PM

This is pretty bad

Jin

youtube.com/user/OMGmeiyu

^ that girl blows my mind... her Chinese isn't perfect, but still pretty darn good. considering she learned Chinese in the States mostly.

Yawus

I learned my Chinese in a weird manner. I lived in China when I was a toddler, became fluent, moved to the US, promptly forgot everything due to lack of use, and have recently started up again.

Coronus

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I just learned in this room that they were speaking Chinese. Seriously?

Yawus

So my accent is good, from what I hear, but my vocabulary is really small.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@FEichinger The back story is that sometime in the 21st century the US and China merged to form a global superpower, so both Mandarin and English should be the lingua franca

Yawus

5:40 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone And yet there are no Asians in the show.

Jin

@YiJiang'sEvilClone most spoken chinese used in American media are is mandarin, but cantonese.

Yawus

Cantonese is the language of the devil. /kidding

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Coronus They are, but most of it is incomprehensible. The only words I heard actually pronounced correctly is 'mei mei' - little sister

Powerlord

brb, rebooting

OrigamiRobot

Everyone should speak in 1s and 0s.

FEichinger

5:41 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I know the backstory. However, given the Browncoats' rebellious stance, it makes sense for them to be less fluent. Buuuut I think we're getting off on a wide tangent here.

Yawus

"mei" isn't that hard to pronounce correctly in English considering that the default stress on "ei" in English is similar to the stress required in Chinese.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot Please, god, no. We would never agree on a friggin standard.

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger You would be forced to.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot And who gets to decide? It's a bad idea! Really, really bad!

Coronus

@FEichinger If you don't learn now, how will you know when the robots are planning mutiny?

OrigamiRobot

5:43 PM

@FEichinger I get to decide.

Yawus

@OrigamiRobot It is in the nature of humans to rebel against anything and everything. It's why standards don't work.

OrigamiRobot

@Yawus I'll hold you down and poke your face until you agree with me.

Yawus

@OrigamiRobot I'll agree, but run off and do something else when you go to poke someone else.

FEichinger

@Coronus I'm not saying "I don't want to learn", I'm saying that we would never agree on a standard to encode language. Which is essentially an inside joke.

Coronus

@OrigamiRobot Continued disagreement is punished by a PaperStare. Followed by death.

FEichinger

5:45 PM

@OrigamiRobot Yeh, no.

OrigamiRobot

scribbles notes @FEichinger... uncooperative... destroy first... buy batteries...

FEichinger

@Coronus Basically, this is the joke there.

@OrigamiRobot Hush.

OrigamiRobot

@Coronus Order is not important.

@FEichinger Killing you first is the greatest thing a robot can do for you. It's an honor.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot But, but, but ... I wanna watch it all BURN!!! Y_Y

Grumpy Lazers

1

Q: How do I join the College of Winterhold when Faralda just keeps asking me to shout

I have to get into the college for the main quest, but I have no magical ability on this character so to get her to let me in I told her I was the Dragonborn. She told me to show her the voice. I keep shouting, but she just keeps telling me the same thing over and over, I can't even talk to her, ...

skyrim

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

5:50 PM

It's actually rather uncomfortable as a native Chinese speaker watching Firefly, because the actor's performance are completely unconvincing

Even if you ignore the imperfect pronunciations, the tone and voice makes the code switching sound completely artificial most or the time.

Jin

@YiJiang'sEvilClone that's how I feel when I watch anything david carradine is in..

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Like when Mal speaks one line in English and another in Chinese, the English is perfect but the Chinese makes him sound like an emotionless robot

OrigamiRobot

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I see no problem there.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot Hush you, although you're actually right.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@OrigamiRobot You wouldn't pretend to be a human...

OrigamiRobot

5:57 PM

I do every day!

Jin

@OrigamiRobot I knew it.

SaintWacko

@YiJiang'sEvilClone It's the future! The language has changed!

FEichinger

@SaintWacko No. Bad @SaintWacko! Cop-outs are not allowed! Bad!

Sconibulus

Well, he would use English tone to express himself, even in another language, right?

As that's his primary language, and the Chinese is just colorful phrases?

SaintWacko

@FEichinger DON'T FIGHT THE FUTURE

user20683

5:59 PM

The Chinese used in Firefly is...not so good from what I understand.

OrigamiRobot

Mar 5 '12 at 16:54, by OrigamiRobot

I will return in 1 hour. I must go "eat" with my "fellow humans"

FEichinger

@WorldEngineer It's awful. But in the greater scheme of things, it being awful isn't all that wrong - at least for Serenity's crew.

SaintWacko

@WorldEngineer It's the future!

user20683

@SaintWacko it's the least of Firefly's issues in terms of realism

user20683

;)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

6:01 PM

10 mins ago, by Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

It's actually rather uncomfortable as a native Chinese speaker watching Firefly, because the actor's performance are completely unconvincing

SaintWacko

Who's to say what's realistic in the future?

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko The Doctor

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Well, besides him

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko Doc Brown

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Eh...

user20683

6:02 PM

Starfleet

user20683

I kind of want them to do a 29th century Star Trek show

user20683

where it's basically a ensemble version of Doctor Who with slightly more coherent science.

FEichinger

@WorldEngineer You know that that's probably gonna happen once Abrams has the Star Wars/Trek crossover done, yes? :P

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@WorldEngineer Coherence? I don't think that term belongs in the same sentence with 'Doctor Who'

user20683

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Star Trek has slightly more physical coherence than Doctor Who but it's a totally unfair fight

user20683

6:05 PM

since Star Trek occasionally pretends there's science and the Doctor looks at Science and goes "boring".

FEichinger

Doctor Who is more adventure-focused than science-focused, so obviously it doesn't get all that coherent ...

user20683

@FEichinger yeah

user20683

it's very much Star Trek as Fairy Tale

Yawus

@FEichinger Doesn't matter if it's entertaining and actually engenders interest in science, in my opinion.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

0

A: What is causing my low framerate in Prototype 2?

Some people managed to get much higher FPS when HID is disabled in Device Manager.

Isn't HID the Human Interface Device aka your mouse?

OrigamiRobot

6:08 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Depends on who you ask.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Heh

FEichinger

@Yawus Tbh, Doctor Who is probably more beneficial to reasonable interest in science than Star Trek, because Star Trek's science isn't skewed enough for it to seem "unreal" to the not-yet-interested-in-science folks.

user20683

@FEichinger I became interested in CS because of Data amongst other things

user20683

tenses

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@OrigamiRobot Shush you, or else I'm going to plug your ass into my computer's USB port

OrigamiRobot

6:11 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I can assure you that would be bad for you and your computer.

FEichinger

@WorldEngineer Weeeell, I was more referring to the space aspect than that, but that's a good point, yes. At that point, a full-blown AI was something intriguing an amazing. Nowadays, singularity as an actual threat and the limitations in AI development are much more apparent.

Yawus

@YiJiang'sEvilClone That doesn't quite work though...

user20683

@FEichinger yeah, though I think we're a long way off from truly aware AI

OrigamiRobot

@WorldEngineer Rude

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@OrigamiRobot That would be you, yes

OrigamiRobot

6:14 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Double rude!

FEichinger

@WorldEngineer We definitely are. In fact, I still doubt it's possible at all - beyond just not wanting to go there ever.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@OrigamiRobot Did I mention it's a legacy USB 1.0 port?

user20683

@FEichinger I'm very anti-singularity myself

FEichinger

@WorldEngineer We are getting pretty darn off-topic again ... :P

user20683

@FEichinger I suppose we could take this to another chat?

user20683

6:16 PM

:P

OrigamiRobot

You guys are hurting my simulated feelings :(

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@FEichinger I don't believe that is actually possible on The Bridge

FEichinger

We could, indeed.

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Believe me, that would go way off here.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@OrigamiRobot Please don't make me mount you

5

Tim Stone

...I can't even bring myself to star that, it's just so bad.

user20683

6:19 PM

well, time to continue boning my models. I'll be around but semi-afk.

Ben Brocka

I have no idea what I just walked in on

user20683

@BenBrocka Blender puns :D

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@BenBrocka I think his filesystem may be corrupted, so I'm fsck'ing him

3

(I feel so dirty right now - these jokes are really bad)

Blem

@YiJiang'sEvilClone If you do it promise me you will yell "Eagle!"

badp

I'm being torn between starring and flagging

which reminds me of the Tavern flag

Grumpy Lazers

6:27 PM

0

Q: Is a balista self-firing

Does a Balista in Timber & Stone fire on its when manned by an infantry, or do I still have to aim and fire it myself. It is pretty hard to do this, so a auto-firing setting would be nice.

timber-and-stone

badp

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Jan 14 '11 at 13:25, by radp

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Time to close as confuses badp?

2

Also, I'm sure the reason why I'm making these terrible jokes is because it's 2.30am in the morning and my social inhibition controls are all offline

badp

Let's try an experimental approach to the problem before trying the obvious

This is you, Yinternet Jiangxplorer. Please cry yourself to sleep.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Good night @badp. You are a terrible person.

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Dream well

♫

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

6:31 PM

Damn you :p

badp

(I now just need to ping @AshleyNunn so she is aware of the efficacy of this technique.)

(...for the next two remaining weeks.)

M'vy

7:04 PM

Hey !

Yawus

No, I don't wanna listen.

badp

So I now have 5 achievement items of which I have tradable copies I want to keep, either because they're gifts or stranges

I wonder if I should keep them or delete them.

M'vy

^^

OrigamiRobot

@M'vy ignored

M'vy

What can you to with them?

Is there a limit for items BTW?

badp

7:09 PM

@M'vy Keep them in a corner; make two untradable scrap metals (useless unless I make 25 more); destroy them.

@M'vy There is an item limit, but I'm not close to it.

Wipqozn

M'vy

Well, keep then

badp

@Wipqozn Simply set him on fire.

M'vy

You can build a sentimental galery

badp

@M'vy That's what the last column of my last inventory page is for

Sconibulus

7:14 PM

why are scrap metals useless?

badp

what are you going to do with 2 untradable scrap

Yawus

@Sconibulus Scraps are usually used as currency, so a scrap that is untradeable is kinda useless.

badp

The only use for untradable metal is getting 3 untradable refined for 1 untradable hat

Sconibulus

you could make weapons, right?

badp

less than 1% chance of getting something I already don't have

Ben Brocka

7:33 PM

Has anyone made an RPG where 'Bro-Mancy' is a skill yet?

Tweeted by S0phieH on April 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

NecBroMancer

user20683

@BenBrocka I'd have expected Dungeons of Dredmor to do it

Ben Brocka

EA restructure results in hundreds of layoffs, two studios reportedly closed http://www.polygon.com/2013/4/25/4266122/ea-layoffs-popcap-vancouver-quicklime

Tweeted by Polygon on April 25, 2013 at 7:36 PM

It's funny because they just won an award for failing and said they won because they're so successful

"Our employees thought EA was SO AMAZING they voluntarily quit en mass"

Yawus

@BenBrocka Kingdom of Loathing?

Ben Brocka

@Yawus Well I'll be

Yawus

It was an event some time ago.

user20683

7:43 PM

@BenBrocka this is why I don't want to do game programming as a career

user20683

too little job security

Ben Brocka

They do seem to have some icky churn/layoff rates but I wonder if mid-sized companies burn employees nearly as often as big publishers like EA

I hear some, rare, game companies actually like games even

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka Surely you mean money.

badp

@WorldEngineer This is just EA being EA really

user20683

@badp yeah

user20683

7:48 PM

I know

badp

BUYS STUDIOS

(scumbag guy)

CLOSES THEM DOWN

come think of it it's not too distant from Microsoft's often cited so-called EEE tactic

What was it? Embrace Extinguish ... Eprofit?

except that was for file standards

user20683

@badp 4x Explore, expand, exploit, exterminate

badp

@WorldEngineer Has Popcap actually published anything noteworthy under EA management?

user20683

@badp I heard that PvZ 2 was coming

user20683

and it's only PopCap Vancouver

FEichinger

7:52 PM

@BenBrocka So ... what does EA have left now? Pseudo-Maxis, Pseudo-BioWare, Sports Division and DICE, isn't it?

user20683

PopCap proper is in Seattle

user20683

Electronic Arts

|operating_income = (2012) |net_income = (2012) |assets = (2012) |equity = (2012) |num_employees = 9,225 (2012) |homepage = [http://www.ea.com/ EA.com] }} Electronic Arts, Inc. (EA) is an American developer, marketer, publisher and distributor of video games. Founded and incorporated on May 28, 1982 by Trip Hawkins, the company was a pioneer of the early home computer games industry and was notable for promoting the designers and programmers responsible for its games. Electronic Arts is the world's third-largest gaming company by revenue after...

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot Money this money that, but in reality very very many people out there do what they do not only for money but because what they're working on is something they feel passionate about.

FEichinger

@WorldEngineer Yep. But the entire mobile division has been taking huge hits recently as well, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that go down as well.

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger Visceral Games, I'm not sure they do anything but Dead Space though

OrigamiRobot

7:53 PM

@BenBrocka What heresy is this?

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger Popcap is'nt mobile only (they didn't even start out mobile)

FEichinger

@BenBrocka What have they done under EA that wasn't either mobile or a crossover thingy?

@BenBrocka Ah, right. Although they probably only still exist because "Oh no, no way are we gonna give Dead Space the axe? Why would we do that? I mean, we totally said we would, but no, no, we won't! Promise!" :/

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger EA bought them more recently than I recalled, so I actually can't think of anything except PvZ ports

Also PvZ 2! Hopefully that will come out before the axe. If it's any good, anyway

Considering they're owned by EA I wouldn't be that surprised if buying seed packets cost real money and you had to ask friends on Facebook for sun

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Ahyup. Also, take a look at this. 50 people fired, "as it moves to address a shift to mobile and free-to-play games" ... and Dublin closed.

The Stack Exchange Blog

Blog - Stack Exchange: Get to know the new Stack employees

Joe Humphries on April 25, 2013

It seems like just two months ago (OK, it was exactly two months ago) that I announced our last batch of new hires. Today I’m pleased to introduce our newest employees. There are TEN of them … so get comfy and prepare to learn all about our latest hires, who seem to have an overall fondness for food, sports, music, and the great outdoors.

Jessica Brady, Associate Sales Representative (Careers 2.0)

New York

Jessica was born and raised in warm, sunny Florida, until she packed up and moved to less warm, less sunny Chicago for non-weather-related reasons (okay, it was school). She has l …

Ben Brocka

7:57 PM

(Don't tell EA I said that, they'll get ideas)

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Nah, they have those ideas on their own already.

badp

@BenBrocka No, but you'll have to beg them to replace your lawn mowner

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