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11:01 AM
@ori don't worry, turned out my dad has a new computer, he just can't use it because it's running windows 8
@djs what's your name? I'll whitelist now
@djs you've got 15 minutes to tell me before I board a plane...
 
@fredley im double checking :D
djsmiley2k
 
Added you
 
ty
hmmmm need twilight forest
 
11:19 AM
@fredley Windows 8 is that bad, huh?
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone my experience is that it is not made to be used with a mouse
 
it's not good for people who know how to use windows, but don't know all the shortcuts
If you don't already know windows - fine
If you know windows, and are a power user who knows all the shortcuts - fine
If your the "normal" person who has some experience but isn't either of the above- you'll hate it.
 
-1
A: How do I make part of my Minecraft skin transparent?

fewaMaybe hack your computer? O i forgot i use hax

I use hax!!1!1!
 
can we link badges here?
you know, like tags?
 
11:24 AM
awwww
I got the tumbleweed badge :D
 
12:04 PM
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Q: How to restrict Steam games to 1 hour per day?

BenAdamsonmy parents and I would like to restrict my gaming time to one hour per day maximum during this revision period until late June. However, all of the programs I have found are designed to be 'net nanny' etc as well, and require a parent to have admin powers on the same machine while I would not. As...

 
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Q: Quadrapassel on ubuntu 11.10

serghovQuadrapassel does not work properly on any version after 11.10, it just got upgraded to gnome games. Is it possible to install 11.10 quadrapassel on newer versions?

 
12:41 PM
 
12:59 PM
@fredley was it you who was a daft punk fan?
 
1:09 PM
Who isn't a Daft Punk fan?
 
Kitten is staring at me, meowing and swiping. Whenever I move foodward, waterward and exitward however, the kitten just stops midway and stares.
When I go back at the computer she escorts me back, staring, and meows and swipes.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone well true.
 
Can I close my cat as confuses badp?
 
She finally headed bedwards
 
1:14 PM
@badp It seems pretty clear. She is unsure about you whenever you're doing anything other than computering.
 
gets closed as confuses badp's kitten
 
@badp very nice but a bit to expencive at €885
 
I'm surprised I'm in such the minority on this
 
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Q: Bioshock Infinite - Why is Booker puzzeled? [Spoiler]

HansenSo I understood what was happening in the game + the ending, my only question is: Thanks for helping me out, that question wont let me sleep :D

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Q: What are the mechanics for making heroes appear in Nimble Quest iOS?

rikitikitikSometimes I leave the first area getting only one additional hero and at times I get up to 4. Is there a deliberate way to get as many heroes as possible before you leave the first area? Or is it all random?

 
@Sterno If you don't have a problem yourself, how will you accept an answer?
How do you even know it is a problem to begin with? (← many prerelease questions fall flat on this, too, like the SimCity OS X combo thing)
 
1:17 PM
@Sterno This is one of those meta posts that I have kicking around in the back of my head and need to sit down and write.
 
@badp 99% of games I can ask what changes in a difficulty level change in actual gameplay, secure in the knowledge that the game does shit-all to tell me other than say "It'll be harder"
 
@Sterno And we should encourage that?
 
@badp Encourage? Nah. Close it because it was asked mere hours too early, and in a case where the game is actually out in some places? Hell no.
 
I understand that closing a question because of the asker is messy and shitty but the alternative is outright deletion
 
Our current ways of dealing with prerelease questions just does not seem to work on all kinds of levels - a week doesn't go by that we don't have a controversial closure at this point - so we really should double back to that policy and really clearly and completely state what it is for as many cases as we can come up with and really just reevaluate it.
 
1:18 PM
If we're drilling down into the asker's profile to see where they live so we can feel good about closing it, we've got a problem.
Besides, I'm all for closing shitty, bad, nonsensical questions
 
I'm not saying it needs to change, but I am saying that the current patchwork of meta answers that kind of halfway address the specifics of various questions on the subject is becoming unsustainable, and we really need to pay more attention to it.
 
It's the ones that are valid but we're closing because "Hey, dude, wait a few hours and then post at the stroke of midnight for the exact same effect! that seem silly.
 
@Sterno This this this this this. The game is out somewhere in the world. At that point, it's not pre-release. It's not speculative. Which is what the problem with those questions is.
Yes, people ask dumb questions without having played the game.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Exactly. Which will happen even after it's out.
 
We already have plenty of ways to deal with dumb questions without trying to shoehorn them into rules for which they're not suited.
 
1:20 PM
@Sterno I want to +1 your meta but I can't because I already did.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Excuse me, what ways do we have to deal with dumb questions other than closing and then deleting?
 
downvoting into oblivion?
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zomg best vodka ever :o
that one
 
@Sconibulus So you propose that questions about unreleased games get downvoted until they off the homepage, then they're no longer a problem
 
@badp We can close them as NARQ or NC if they're truly stupid beyond salvation, or we can downvote them if they're merely mildly dumb, and delete if the score is substantially negative. Either way, trying to call it off topic because of the time zone in which the asker's profile states he lives is beyond the pale.
 
1:22 PM
Out of your eyes, out of your mind right?
@LessPop_MoreFizz It's not my fault if dumb companies release games based on time zones.
 
@badp No, I was proposing that all dumb questions get downvoted... questions that are against the rules are another thing
 
The reason we don't like prerelease questions is because the answers are (at least in theory) fundamentally speculative. If the game is out on the other side of an ocean, then the answer is not fundamentally speculative.
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@badp In this case, the game is released. The question is answerable. The particularly user just lives in a timezone where it isn't.
 
This case doesn't feel like it's definitively against the rules, so it seems like it's a good candidate for downvoting if dumb
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I believe that's why we shouldn't like pre-release questions. However, I don't think that's why most people have a problem with them.
People just get up in arms about the whole "he's camping for rep!" thing
 
1:24 PM
There are questions that can be asked without playing a game that are useful and important: "What specifically changes when you increase the games difficulty setting?" And there are questions that are asked without playing a game that are stupid "Can I ride a dragon in Skyrim I only buy games in which I can ride dragons." Either way, the fact that the game doesn't happen to be out in your time zone does not have anything to do with the quality of the question being asked.
 
If it's truly a shitty question he's camping, he's only camping for negative rep, so I doubly don't see what the problem is
 
You people need to stop letting the letter of the law defeat the spirit.
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@LessPop_MoreFizz I'd star that, but I ran out of passive-aggressive stars for the day.
 
@Sterno Already?
 
@StrixVaria I still have normal stars.
 
1:26 PM
@Sterno It's certainly a factor and this is definitely not the first time somebody shotguns a bunch of questions for a game in quick succession
 
@less yes
 
Hell, it happened on the site's opening day.
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Q: What should we do about excessive content "seeding"?

jmfsgI want to believe the user is genuinely trying to generate content. However, I don't like it. What does everybody else think?

 
@badp It shouldn't be. If they're good questions, they're good questions. If they're not, they aren't. We already have mechanisms for dealing with bad questions. Hiding behind "The game isn't out in your time zone" is cowardly and doesn't address whatever actual problems may exist, while throwing out legitimate questions.
 
@badp Here's the thing. if someone really wants to do this, they can do it completely in the letter of the law by waiting a few hours and shotgunning at midnight. Same shitty questions. Same camping behavior. Just a few hours later.
 
unfortunately the image went down
 
@Sterno So... why didn't he wait?
 
Wrong link, forgot I had copied something else.
 
Why didn't he do just that?
Then we could've just downvoted (which, by the way, was done.)
 
@badp Because he didn't know you people were going to be a bunch of trigger happy assholes
 
Questions are scored -7, -5, -5, -5, -5
 
1:28 PM
@badp Is that a reflection of the question quality or the fact that everyone was bandwagoning trying to get rid of them?
 
@badp I find it hard to believe that those scores are purely on the merits as opposed to "HE'S SEEDING, GIT 'IM."
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz So are you or are you not arguing for "close is not a replacement for the downvote button"?
It's been suggested, and starred, that the community downvoted as if it didn't. That's what I'm saying.
By the way I didn't close or downvote anything, merely I deleted the question so that new users wouldn't be confused by seeing those questions closed OT for no obvious reason.
 
@badp I'm arguing that any action taken on the basis of "This game is only out on the other side of an ocean" is illegitimate and stupid.
 
I think this gets quoted way too much as a bludgeon, too: You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on actual problems that you face.
 
Actions taken on the merits of the questions at hand, whether close votes or down votes, may or may not be legitimate. I didn't see the actual questions, so I can't speak to those.
 
1:31 PM
@less can I downloaded this?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm arguing that doing that is just looking for trouble, asking for answers he can't verify or vote for or accept. There's a ton of people on the internet with a question, you don't have to ask it for others
 
I can see the value of your argument. I can also see that it's stupid to ask questions about a game sight unseen.
 
@badp Not every answer is verifiable by the asker the instant that it is posted. That doesn't make those answers - or questions - invalid.
 
@less no good, just on phone. Is it a prerelease track from RAM or something else?
 
1:33 PM
No answers were harmed in the closing and deleting of those questions.
 
"Actual problems that you face" seems like a really strict criterion
 
Oh ok, seen description now. Looks cool, I'll try and remember to check it out when I'm back
 
Okay, let's dig up the question bodies
Actually you have 10k so here's the links:
 
@fredley That's a cover of Da Funk.
 
"Problems you have reasonable suspicion you may face" might be nicer
 
1:36 PM
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/110535/are-any-voxophones-audio-logs-missable-if-so-which
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/110536/where-are-all-of-the-voxophones
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/110540/how-do-i-unlock-1999-mode-and-what-does-it-do
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/110543/where-are-all-of-the-telescopes-and-kinetoscopes-for-sightseer
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/110544/what-are-the-differences-between-the-difficulty-levels-in-bioshock-infinite
 
Oh, I think I only saw 2 or 3
 
user43095
@fredley Is the marathon still on?
 
The reason I don't like some of those is because they're list questions. Not because they're asked early.
 
For the benefit of those without 10k, the titles are:
 
Good question, Bad List, Fantastic question, nearly word for word of what someone else asked, List of indeterminate scope, may or may not be good, standard good question.
 
1:38 PM
Others seem fine. In fact, others were reasked (with answers) by someone else
 
Are any voxophones (audio logs) missable? If so, which?
Where are all of the voxophones?
How do I unlock 1999 mode, and what does it do?
Where are all of the telescopes and kinetoscopes for “Sightseer”?
What are the differences between the difficulty levels in BioShock Infinite?
 
@Sterno the 1999 mode question is word for word, and it's not like it wasn't widely known that it was an unlockable mode before release.
 
Oh lookie dev answer. Upvote
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz And it still has a shitty answer that just quotes some way-before-release interview!
 
Clearly we must close the new question, too.
:P
At any rate, I don't really feel very strongly about the closure
 
1:43 PM
Honestly, all questions should be closed once an answer is accepted, because it's no longer a real problem that the asker faces!
 
Good morning, Bridge! I'm glad to see that my daily dose of site drama has already been filled. <3
 
What I see here is that the community hates (rightfully or not) question shotgunning, the community hates (rightfully or not) question "camping", he is a community "veteran", he did both things at the same time and the community responded accordingly.
 
Also, @LessPop_MoreFizz, Torment is $1300 away from Patrick Rothfuss, taking the PayPal total into account.
 
When I saw that the questions were closed, rather than letting those questions stay there on hold publicly so that googlers only would find heated meta discussion on the topic, I decided to simply get rid of them, hopeful that they'd get reasked.
 
@badp I agree with that analysis.
And I'm cool with you deleting closed questions. I just don't like the reason people closed them.
 
1:45 PM
@badp Which is basiclly the only legitimate action in this whole sordid tale.
 
Well you could be arguing that my deletion being a mod's action is undoable by normal users and is a power trip and it changes the cycle of closing and roepening or what the hell do I know you damn pesky users keep coming up with new problems!!
(!! = in jest)
 
Mod Abuse! ;)
 
@Sconibulus MOD ABUSE FOH LYF
 
Morning, Bridge
 
@SaintWacko Morning!
@badp Huh... So two exclamation marks are the secret to avoiding Poe's Law. Today I learned.
 
user43095
1:48 PM
Good morning.
 
@Fluttershy smilies work too. It's my typographical standard anyway
Very much my own, I don't know anybody else doing that
 
I use smilies
 
It seems to work though.
 
@badp Smiles have had varied success in my experience.
 
When in doubt just pile on more exclamation points!!!!!1111one
 
1:49 PM
Some people just think I'm being even more of a dick when I end something in =)
 
Feels good to start with a bit of drama in the morning. I feel clean!
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@badp That just makes you clearly insane
 
@Fluttershy Yeah, :) can be enraging
 
@Fluttershy So end it in :P
@badp That wide smile just looks smug
 
1:50 PM
@SaintWacko and thus, not somebody that can be taken seriously. That's the point.
 
When I saw that in the starred list I was worried @LessPop_MoreFizz rage quit the site.
 
That smug bastard, just sitting there grinning at me...
 
@SaintWacko :-)
 
@Wipqozn That just looks like @LessPop_MoreFizz being a terrible mod. "I wonder if this works."
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Much better
 
If anyone is on Minecraft right now, the absolute best minecraft smiley is |:)
It looks way better in minecraft
 
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Q: How does the damage of the Unkempt Harold (legendary Torgue pistol) work?

galacticninjaI recently got a 'Hard Unkempt Harold', a legendary Torgue pistol: How does its damage work? Is the damage indicated in the 'Damage' stat, split per bullet fired per shot, or is every bullet doing 100% of the damage indicated in the damage stat?

 
@SaintWacko :─────────────────────────────────)
 
@badp You've gone too far! Turn back now!
Ahhhhh! The nose is taking over!
 
THE NOSE CANNOT HOLD IT IS TOO LATE
 
1:53 PM
Something something pinnochio
 
@badp I for one welcome our nosy overlords
@LessPop_MoreFizz MODS ARE LIARS
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I don't even know what that is. o_o
 
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`--' `--' `-----'`--'  `--' `-----'  `-----'  `-----'
 
@badp Bless you
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz That'd be :■)
 
1:56 PM
@Fluttershy It's a SarcMark™
Although in the written English language there is no standard way to denote irony or sarcasm, several forms of punctuation have been proposed. Among the oldest and frequently attested are the percontation point invented by English printer Henry Denham in the 1580s, and the irony mark, used by Marcellin Jobard in an article dated June 11, 1841 and commented in a 1842 report. It was furthered by French poet Alcanter de Brahm in the 19th century. Both of these marks were represented visually by a backwards question mark, ⸮ (in Unicode: ). Using LaTeX, one can display it by including the gr...
 
His nose grows outward, not downward
 
Huh...
 
I usually only use (!) to demark surprise as I quote people
Like: Grace said she loves cockroaches (!) and flaming tyres (!!)
 
Sarcasm mark:
 
2:11 PM
nooo-nooo-NOOOO
 
When my friend told me Bioshock Infinite started throwing money at me when I got lockpicking, I didn't know she literally meant "Elizabeth will throw coins at you."
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America.
Center of the capitalist world.
 
@jeff yes, but not soon, I'm going on holiday for a couple of weeks
 
You use coins to pick locks in Bioshock Infinite?
 
user43095
2:24 PM
@fredley Oh ok, just making sure it wasn't forgotten.
 
Also, @YiJiang'sEvilClone, I see you've gone back to your former Gravatar.
 
user43095
Can you annoy a lot of people by doing this? @s
 
@ShotgunNinja Which one?
@jeffreylin_ Three character minimum
 
user15026
@lesspop I loved the Cookie Monster rap. :)
 
user43095
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Aw..
 
2:25 PM
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Q: How to defeat Yak Liches and the Yak Master

RanaynaI recently started a Playthrough of World of Xeen (somewhat in preparation for Might and Magic Legacy) I admit to have consulted several Walkthroughs for pointers where to go at which levels. My Party (the precreated default Party) is now level 11 - 12 and i have entered the Temple of Yak. Most ...

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Q: What are the best sources of XP after the Elite Four in BW2?

Jonathan DrainIn Pokémon Black 2 and Pokémon White 2, what are the best sources of XP that are available after defeating the Elite Four? Defeating the Elite Four again is the traditional post-game XP source, and Route 15 has some high-level Pokémon, but where else is good?

 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Princess Celestia's mane?
 
@jeffreylin_ Still enough room for lots of fun, though. At one time there was half a dozen "Tim"s in the Meta Tavern
 
user43095
^ lol
 
@ShotgunNinja I changed back ages ago. Your browser cache must be really stale
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Nah, I just haven't seen you here in a while.
 
user43095
2:29 PM
Hobowars
 
> HoboWars is a popular free online game where you play as a hobo and compete against thousands of players from around the world to become one of the strongest and richest hobos in the city.
Uh... huh
 
Sounds classy.
 
> popular
Bullsh*t
 
It's got like 200 users!
that's popular as balls!
 
2:47 PM
Whoa man
Looks like we got outselves a badass over here
 
> Hey, this works now. Finally!
 
Reply then quote? Yeah.
 
@Lazers ...Yak Liches and the Yak Master.
 
HoM&M?
 
3:01 PM
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Q: Unable to get to the Bridge

desaivvI am unable to get to the bridge. I am logged in to Arqade and SO. But when I click on Chat link, it asks me to login into any SE site (Any site). Here is a SS of it. Umm now how do I enter chat? IE 10, Win7. Still can not log in. Check the image below. Still not working. Agent86 thank you ...

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Q: Is there a limit on the amount of power you can buy

Saif BechanI have set up a small city with a coal mine and a power plant. The city produces an excess of 200+ MW. However, in a newly created city the game says I can only buy 76MW. Is this correct?

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Q: Are there any benefits for placing a sign on your building

Saif BechanI see that on some buildings your can place a sign on the roof, or a flag in front of it. Does this serve some kind of purpose or is this just for looks.

 
@Lazers Heh
 
@SaintWacko yeah lol
 
Hello Bridge
Finally logged on'
 
@desaivv Woo!
Welcome to the Bridge, cadet.
 
Any Mass Effect people here?
I am trying to change my background from Earthborn
to Spacer
How to do it?
 
3:13 PM
Hey, you made it. Welcome to the Bridge~
 
For ME1?
 
I'm not a Mass Effect person, alas, so I cannot help~
 
Thanks Grace
But my dear mod might be here
:-)
Is a question more appropriate at this point?
I am playing on PC.
 
^
That
 
3:17 PM
@MBraedley Bah, beat me
 
umm @MBraedley is there a limitation that says
 
You need a save editor
 
First time through
You can not choose anything?
 
I don't know
 
me either
hehe
okies Will making it a question help future users?
According to you guys?
 
3:19 PM
Although I don't know if it'll work with ME1
@desaivv I think there might be something already
 
@MBraedley I just started a game. Did not let me pick anything. Class : Soldier, Background : Earthborn, Sole Survivor.
Could not click any of them to change them
And I checked already
Nothing there
Would you mind terribly
to check
 
@desaivv Did you maybe select the default Shepard instead of custom?
 
I never played on PC, and my first playthrough was like 3 years ago
 
Maybe I missed something
 
That's what it sounds like
 
3:21 PM
@SaintWacko Yes I picked default John Shepard.
 
@desaivv That's the problem
 
But should not there be a way to customize other settings?
 
Back out to that menu and select create custom, or something
 
Or just start a new game.
 
In ME1 right?
 
3:22 PM
@desaivv No, if you select the default, those settings are included
@desaivv Right
 
There is no create custom though that I can see
I have my game running
 
@desaivv You're at the beginning, creating a character, right?
 
while I am typing
yes
started a new career
I am shown John Shepard
And I can change the name
 
Back up until you see something like
Default Shepard (Male)
Default Shepard (Female)
Custom
Something like that
I'm at work, so I can't pull it up myself
 
But nothing else
This is ME1
And I can change the name
Thanks SW
Trying it now
Wait
 
3:25 PM
Oh, sorry, it's:
John Shepard
Enter new ID
Use Existing ID
 
You are on the Bridge from work?
LOL
 
Yes
Look at that video, 28 seconds in
 
@desaivv Dude, so am I.
 
That's the screen where you should choose Enter New ID
I think most of us are on the Bridge at work
 
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Got it @SaintWacko
Thanks a lot
 
3:28 PM
@desaivv Glad to help :)
 
@desaivv Many users chat on the bridge from work.
 
Hehe
Maybe I should try it as well
 
But not me today. Stat holiday
 
But I like quantifiable results
 
3:29 PM
It's a good stress reliever
 
Which means if I am not at my game PC
 
@desaivv Well, at least you seem to have a grasp on the English language. Good.
 
I can not answer
Thanks Shotgun
It is hard sometimes
Being a woman in India
that too
people expect me to cook
 
Awesome.
 
get married
and tend to kids mostly'
I have one child
 
3:30 PM
And you have a career which involves software development, such that you'd have a Stack Exchange account?
 
got married
and still play
 
looks like you got it figured out :P
wooooo
 
Yeah, exactly.
 
ahh my dear agent86
LOVE YOU
 
(the chat thing I mean, not being a woman in modern society...)
@desaivv glad I could help :)
 
3:31 PM
U are such a sweetie
@Shotgun
I run my own software company
www.eanda.co.in
My brother and I started it
He has been in the US for a long time
he is Vishal and I am Vaishali in RL
:-)
Okies bye bridge
Love you Agent86
Thanks for all the help from everyone
@MBraedley @Shotgun
 
hey, not a problem. sorry I'm slow, am at work and people want me to like... work...
 
Bye
 
silly people!
ttyl :P
 
Thanks all
 
np
 
3:41 PM
@agent86 How dare they!
 
@SaintWacko I know, right? Jerks.
 
I should probably be hesitant to approve an edit whose description was "grammer fixes"... But it seemed okay despite everything.
 
@Fluttershy Still a bigger change than my smallest edit :P
Plus, they didn't claim to be fixing spelling, at least
 
Sweet, that was easy. Got my passive 3d monitor to work with NVidia. And it looks better than the 3D Vision proper setup I had before.
 
Cool. We have an eclectic new member of the Bridge. And she's sure to be a fan favorite!
 
3:55 PM
Whoa, why am I being shown chat flags all of a sudden?
 
@MBraedley You probably got 10K network-wide rep
 
@MBraedley you ate from the fruit of the tree of Knowledge of Chat Flagging, didn't you?
 
yep, I do have 10k network wide, but I've had that for over a month I think.
 
sigh
I swear, I don't know why we even have a tree of Knowledge of Chat Flagging.
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Yo.
 
3:59 PM
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 

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