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7:00 PM
of course, if you have no use for the item you're trading away, but you really want the item you're getting, the monetary value difference might make less of a difference in the overall trade
 
@agent86 exactly what I was thinking
 
This other site says 5 keys and 3-4 keys.
 
I gladly traded my earbuds for a $25 game, as the earbuds were worth practically nothing, and the game is a game :P
 
all I want is to track deaths with my demoman :P
 
then you're probably fine, although you could haggle a bit.
 
7:01 PM
@agent86 They're like $33 dollars, and not that hard to sell though.
@Wipqozn Also: backpack.tf
 
Hmm... I forget if Grenade Launcher is one of the Botkiller types or not.
 
@Ullallulloo my cost was $0, I just loaded TF2 on my macbook one day and was suddenly richer!
 
Nope, darn, only Sticky Bomb Launchers are.
 
@agent86 lol
@Powerlord what's that?
 
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Q: Is it viable to buy AP items with Shen?

Adam AroldSince Shen's skills scale with AP and very well for that matter I'm surprised that nearly no one buys AP items for him. What is the reason for that? There are a lot of semi-defensive ap items or ap items with health and armor.

 
7:04 PM
@jmfsg Botkiller weapons are rewarded to people for completing an entire MvM campaign in Mann Up mode. Basically, there are 8 different versions of the Strange Stickybomb Launcher: Normal, Festive, and 6 Botkiller types. Needless to say, the Botkiller types tend to be cheaper, particularly for the Rust ones.
 
gotcha
 
Oh, and Botkiller weapons don't track bot kills despite their names.
 
wow, so much info on those sites
 
Unfortunately, only one weapon for each class has a Botkiller version. Which is dumb since there are now 6 of each type. :|
 
the trading scene is huge!
 
7:05 PM
@jmfsg valve hired an economist to investigate the steam trading scene... it's srs bzns
key sales post F2P dwarfed game sales prior to the switch, iirc
 
@agent86 DOTA2 trading as well
 
hey @Powerlord
 
Also, I just found out that my SourceMod voting extension is broken due to changes in SourceMod itself.
 
@Powerlord yeah, I tried to say 'steam trading' as a catchall for the various types. DOTA2 does have a healthy trading scene.
 
user15026
@agent86 That is impressive.
 
7:07 PM
@DaveMcClelland I was meaning to tell you after I read that actually
 
well, I'l trade away my hat
 
@badp me again! Where can I find what an item is worth? Someone wants to trade my Dashin' Hashshashin for one S-GL, no idea if I should
 
Those guys were so annoying
 
Instead of just adding the new CS:GO functions to the existing interface, they removed the old functions.
 
@badp trade everything forever
 
7:08 PM
BuiltinVoteStyle_TF2.cpp: In member function ‘void CTF2BuiltinVote::InternalDisplayVoteFail(int*, unsigned int, SourceMod::BuiltinVoteFailReason)’:
BuiltinVoteStyle_TF2.cpp:327: error: ‘class SourceMod::IUserMessages’ has no member named ‘StartMessage’
 
@badp yeah, then I figured I could ask here :P
 
I told Juan that it might be too good of an offer
what you think?
@jmfsg oh wait genuine? fuck that
 
@badp the hat is genuine quality
 
@badp Wow @jmfsg, are you sick? You look verY pale image!
 
(learning by the minute here)
 
7:08 PM
It did 6 days ago!
 
There's no colour in your face at all.
 
@jmfsg 2 keys is 40% of your hat's value
 
@Wipqozn I see it fine... perhaps you're color blind... you should see a doctor
 
btw I love how Mark of the Ninja gives me 800 points for an indirect kill whenever I jump head first into lazers
 
@badp Isn't the SGL worth ~4 keys?
 
7:17 PM
@Ullallulloo backpack.tf says 3-4
but
 
Assembler is pissing me off
I have no idea what this command is doign
 
it really depends, yesterday on tf2outpost there were only people buying and not selling for the GLs
 
also apparently they nixed the raid boss lockout timers?
> - Daily lockouts for Hyperius the Invincible, Master Gee the Invincible, and Pyro Pete the Invincible disabled pending a future update to address lockout timers.
Not that the first two are any damn fun to fight even once
 
woot, I have my first strange :)
 
@SaintWacko skip it
 
7:20 PM
@OrigamiRobot I just gave up
Fuck this
It's completely ignoring the contents of the registers I'm pointing it too
I have no idea where it's getting its numbers
 
what is this for?
 
@OrigamiRobot Training for my job
 
I mean what controller.
 
@OrigamiRobot An IBM Mainframe
Running z/TPF
 
Not an AVR. I have no experience. :P
 
7:25 PM
@OrigamiRobot Lol
Have you used an Execute instruction?
 
I don't even remember.
 
Bah
 
Assembly is scary, man.
5
 
@OrigamiRobot It's 2013. Even microcontrollers run C++ now
 
It's like it's designed to trick you.
@badp Don't tell me. @SaintWacko is the one using Assembly.
 
7:28 PM
@OrigamiRobot You're a machine. Robot up
 
@OrigamiRobot Our mainframes have been around a long time
They use C and TPF
 
Yay, I'm bastardizing linq and gridviews to work in Sharepoint.
 
@fbueckert I'm sorry.
 
@Coronus That's what everyone keeps telling me.
I definitely abhor Sharepoint, but my last month has been pretty decent, as I've been stuck in happy, happy, .NET land.
 
@CruelCow Assembly is too high level for him
 
7:30 PM
@CruelCow Don't tell me what to do!
 
I made a dinky little assembly modeller for bonus points in high school.
Mostly to show how it dumped information around.
 
@OrigamiRobot sudo robot -up
and assembly is frickin' awesome
 
@agent86 The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
@SaintWacko So why assembly? IBM has probably the best compilers out there, too.
 
@OrigamiRobot oh yeah? YOUR MOM is not mutually exclusive. BURN!
 
7:37 PM
cries
 
1
Q: How do I fix the "Sync out of range" error on start?

Steve V.I just installed Spec Ops: The Line on Steam. When I try to start it, I get a "Sync Out Of Range" error on my monitor. How do I fix this?

0
Q: Can my warlord use different skills during the same battle?

musefanI have just got the latest update and we can now add up to 3 skills to our warlord, but how do these skills work in a battle? Will the skill be chosen at random at the start? or is it possible to use multiple in the same battle? is it possible for my warlord to use 3 different skills in the same...

0
Q: Does having more than one of the same warlord skill increase the proc rate?

musefanWarlords can now have up to 3 skills. But what are the effect of having multiple skills that are the same? For example, if my warlord has Triple Strike with a 30% proc rate, and I add another 2 Triple Strike skills both with 30% proc rate. Will this mean an overall 90% proc rate? or will it take...

 
@OrigamiRobot your tears are delicious and nourishing.
 
raptr's getting more ridicolous by the minute
 
@agent86 My tears are simply processed @Wipqozn's tears.
 
@badp This looks like a Classmate's type of move.
 
7:39 PM
@OrigamiRobot that's why they taste familiar. huh.
 
@OrigamiRobot I can confirm that this is true.
 
Oct 30 '12 at 16:54, by OrigamiRobot
@desaivv Turtle tears are a very rich fuel source.
 
sage nod
 
goddamnit
I was trying to use registers as the displacement, which apparently is not allowed
It was reading the number of the register as the displacement, and the numbers I happened to be using were close enough to the correct numbers that I didn't make the connection
 
@whatifnumbers
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7:44 PM
I want to go back to C, so I can use proper variables
 
@SaintWacko I just name all my variables r11, r12, etc.
 
@OrigamiRobot Lol
 
@OrigamiRobot You're the reason I hate other programmers.
 
I may have to do that now, that would be hilarious
 
@SaintWacko Be sure to put the proper variable name in the comments.
 
7:47 PM
@OrigamiRobot Yeah
 
@SaintWacko Clearly you need to use JavaScript
 
@Powerlord rIGHT NOW i'M READY TO USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN ASSEMBLER
Sigh...
 
JavaScript wouldn't know a proper variable if it hit it in the face with a baseball bat.
 
@SaintWacko Also make them boolean arrays.
 
@OrigamiRobot In other words, pure binary storage?
 
7:55 PM
@OrigamiRobot Don't make me hurt you.
 
I'm working with hex character data in EBCDIC, is that bad enough?
 
So, I hear that Disney is closing Junction Point... the studio behind Epic Mickey.
 
@SaintWacko And write functions that are as close as possible to ASM instructions.
 
@OrigamiRobot Kill me now
 
@SaintWacko Make sure you have a variable for the status register!
 
7:58 PM
@OrigamiRobot Actually, I don't know if this is normal for C, but we can interface with the registers and core memory
 
void add(bool a[], bool b[]){

}
Fill it in.
 
@OrigamiRobot VOID?
 
@badp raptr seemed like a neat idea but I've found it pretty useless
 
Ugh, I See how to do that, and I don't like it
 
@SaintWacko There is no return. You have to manipulate a[].
@SaintWacko Isn't it a nightmare?
H: Rd3•Rr3+Rr3•R3+R3•Rd3
Set if there was a carry from bit 3; cleared otherwise
S: N ⊕ V, For signed tests.
V: Rd7•Rr7•R7+Rd7•Rr7•R7
Set if two’s complement overflow resulted from the operation; cleared otherwise.
N: R7
Set if MSB of the result is set; cleared otherwise.
Z: R7• R6 •R5• R4 •R3 •R2 •R1 •R0
Set if the result is $00; cleared otherwise.
C: Rd7 •Rr7 +Rr7 •R7+ R7 •Rd7
Set if there was carry from the MSB of the result; cleared otherwise.
There are your status register rules.
Have fun. I need this by tomorrow.
 
8:11 PM
2
Q: How do I defeat these 12-15 Thin Men and the commander?

JoshDMOK, so I screwed up my X-Com game. Playing Classic mode. A UFO landed in the woods and I kneejerk sent 4 ill-equipped team members out to take it down, then saved over my prior save. I've tried to take down this UFO board multiple times, but to no avail and could really use some strategic hint...

0
Q: Do stats from the Crysis 3 beta carry over into the retail release?

SeanThe beta page doesn't note whether multiplayer stats are imported into the full version. Is this noted somewhere? Has there been a formal announcement?

 
@Lazers Gross.
 
@OrigamiRobot See also:
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Q: Do Guild Wars 2 Beta characters carry over to the full release?

SirYakalotIf you play the beta will you be able to access your characters in the full game when released?

6
Q: After the StarCraft 2 beta is over will achievements earned carry into the retail version?

ahsteeleI was lucky enough to accepted into the StarCraft 2 beta. I've earned a few achievements from normal game play. Some of the achievements are a bit harder to earn and will take effort. If those achievements aren't going to carry into the version being released on July 27th I won't bother. So is th...

0
Q: Does EXP carry over from RuneScape Combat Evolved Beta?

Shadow ZorgonI am earning lots of EXP on Runescape Combat Evolved Beta, but i do not know if EXP carries over. Could someone tell me?

 
How are all those open?
 
@OrigamiRobot I have no idea.
 
@Ullallulloo This one is from 2010, so I can see how it's still open.
 
8:18 PM
@OrigamiRobot @Ullallulloo: Those last 3 questions are fine. It's applicable to anyone who played the beta, and is looking into buying the full game. It's not speculation once the game is out. With that said the recently asked CRysis 3 question could be off-topic due to being speculation, since the game is still in beta, and is something only the devs could answer.
 
@Wipqozn All of them were in beta. That was the point.
 
@Ullallulloo They aren't now.
 
And I guess only the devs could have answered.
 
Indeed, back when it was in beta, but now they're not in beta and could be answered by anyone who was in beta and then played the full version.
 
@Wipqozn So close this one until release?
 
8:20 PM
@Wipqozn Once the game is out, it's irrelevant.
 
@Ullallulloo Well, the devs could have mentioned it somewhere
 
@OrigamiRobot He's saying it could be useful to those who played the beta without knowing the answer and considered buying the full game.
 
@OrigamiRobot No it's not. How would it be?
 
@Wipqozn Just start the game. Question answered.
 
@CruelCow Which could be said of all the "Why did they design it that way?" questions too.
@OrigamiRobot You have to buy it first.
 
8:21 PM
@OrigamiRobot That only works if they own the full game.
 
If they don't, it's shopping advice.
 
@OrigamiRobot No it's not.
 
Yep.
 
We don't close questions based on users intent, but on the quesiton itself.
 
If the only use for a question is shopping advice, then the question is shopping advice.
 
8:23 PM
BURN IT
 
Wow
 
~Ham and Pork~ Think about nutrition, wonder what's inside it now...
 
@SaintWacko DOOM
I meant to say "BOOM" but I guess that works too.
 
@StrixVaria While this makes me think of lots of things, it most now reminded me of how lucky Michael Doo was when it came to school email addresses at my college.
 
8:27 PM
@GraceNote Haha
 
@OrigamiRobot Not really. Shopping advice is not allowed due to it being subjective, among a few other problems. These beta questions don't share any of those problems.
 
FAE
@StrixVaria I have an mp3 of this.
 
Furthermore, if you think they are only useful because of shopping advice, and that means they aren't useful, then you would down vote the question, not close it.
Also, I need to shower so I'll need to finish this later.
tortoise shower
 
@Wipqozn It means that they are shopping advice.
 
8:29 PM
@SaintWacko -13 before spam-deleted, impressive
 
I was under the impression that tortoises bathed...
 
460,000: EPA statistical value of a human life measured in Bitcoins
 
Also haven't spammers learned that google bombing with a list of keywords doesn't work for crap anymore?
Er
 
@OrigamiRobot They aren't asking for advice though. They're clear, objective questions.
@BenBrocka btc-e.com is what you're looking for.
Although I'm suprised even "btc to usd" brings up euros.
 
@Ullallulloo If they don't own the game, the only reason I can see for asking is to determine whether or not to buy the game. If they do own the game, the question is pointless. That is all I am claiming.
 
8:36 PM
@OrigamiRobot Why does that make it off-topic though? It's not asking for advice.
What about:
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Q: Will playing Mass Effect 3 first spoil the previous games in the series?

Ben BrockaI haven't played Mass Effect 1 or 2 yet, am I going to ruin the previous games' stories by playing Mass Effect 3 first? I know the games let you continue the plot basically between games but I'm wondering if the major surprises/plot points are ruined if I play Mass Effect 3 first.

 
I already know my opinion on betas is in the minority so it's rather pointless for me to voice it again.
 
2
Q: One of my answers got down-voted, and I don't know why

E_LI asked a question. Then I submitted my own answer to that question because I had an idea and wanted to throw that in to the answer mix, see if I could get any feedback on it. The answer got down-voted. That was it. No comments, no feedback. Nothing. I don't know if the down-voter was object...

 
@OrigamiRobot It's not really about betas though, since I think I have the minority opinion there too.
 
I hate this idea and everyone who ever proposes it.
 
@Ullallulloo This specific question archetype is about betas and my opinion on them is largely formed as such.
 
8:40 PM
@StrixVaria It continually gets proposed by people who want to go, "You downvoted me! Revenge!"
Rather than the proper response, which is, "Internet points. Who cares?"
 
@OrigamiRobot It doesn't really matter if it matters that they're in beta though since it requires them to be released to get a testable answer.
 
1
Q: What are the rewards for collecting rainbow flowers?

WipqoznAfter earning my first rainbow flower (for beating the dev time), it told me that if I earn enough rainbow flowers I will "unlock my destiny". What is my destiny, and how many rainbow flowers do I need to unlock it?

3
Q: What will I miss if I skip Pokemon Black/White and go onto Pokemon Black 2/White 2?

user41419I was going to buy Pokemon Black/White however I wondered if I should just skip to Black 2/White 2. As far as story goes... well its a Pokemon game not a novel most of the storys in game are just there to hold things together. Anyway will I be missing anything important if I skip to Black/White?

 
@Ullallulloo What?
 
@OrigamiRobot You can't know if stuff carries over until the games releases, so they're too localized until then, regardless of what you do with normal beta questions.
 
8:55 PM
@BenBrocka The rewards idea isn't terrible and I could've redeemed a few interesting things for Blacklight Retribution had the game ever launched once for me
 
@Ullallulloo Sometimes the devs make announcements. None of that is central to my opinion.
 
@Ullallulloo What's the difference between a beta and a rapidly changing game?
 
@CruelCow I was wondering this too, certain answers are no longer relevants due to major patches or upgrades to games.
 
8:57 PM
@CruelCow I think the perspective difference is about invalidation of information versus information that doesn't exist yet (necessarily)
 
@Ullallulloo and it seems to me you argue against that
 
@CruelCow I'm not sure about closed betas, at least.
 
Rapidly changing games have data that becomes invalid, while the beta situation seems more the opposite, data that eventually becomes valid or extant.
 
I don't feel strongly about it though.
 
@Ullallulloo Not really a fan of such, as it encourages questions based off of articles of reporters playing the game.
 
8:58 PM
@Ullallulloo Oh, nvm, didn't read your post properly
 
@badp I like the rewards idea, but I mainly got it because it tracks gameplay and achievements for me. Too bad there's no PS3 game time.
 
@OrigamiRobot We don't allow questions only answerable by the devs though, right? Like the "Why did they design it that way?" questions? Just they can say stuff doesn't mean that they do.
 
@Ullallulloo According to that meta, closed betas are allowed. (Something I strongly disagree with)
 

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