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10:00 PM
@Jin and that melee classes can get to that point "in a few hours" without dieing
 
They're trying to make more gold sinks so the economy doesn't become inflated.
That's what happened in D2.
 
Atleast one of my toons already has 3 or so pieces that are indestructible
If I can't help dying; going to just end up with all-out Indestructible stuff and go glass cannon
 
@Alok I didn't sleep on release day, logged in the moment I could do (about 20 mins after the servers were up) and then played through until 8am, went to work, came home from work, played through until 4am the next day and then slept before work again
 
how much did it cost to repair stuff in d2? i'm not positive but I'm pretty sure it was more than 60k
 
@Wipqozn yeah, think the repair is a little bit too overkill
@BrianColvin it was irrelevant in D2
@BrianColvin the only purpose for gold in D2 was repairing
 
10:02 PM
@BrianColvin it was but it was possible to sell shit for a LOT more than it is now
 
@ickleislands Wow - I just went to a store to see the lines (but there wasn't one); then played ~ 2hrs that day.
 
@ickleislands It might seem like that now, but it won't in a month or two.
 
@Alok I was in nightmare before I went to work, by the second day (after sleeping) I had D3 installed on my work pc and was playing at work as well
 
I know they reduced crafting costs for 4 & 5 slot exalted; any changes to legendaries?
 
Once more people have all level 60 toons 20k will be picket change
 
10:03 PM
@Wipqozn I agree, it's better for it to be overkill than for them to buff costs repeatedly
 
This is like "well I could spend my money on buying a tv, or i could spend it on food so i don't die and I can make more money"
 
@Wipqozn full 100% repair is more than 20k
 
@Wipqozn Makes GF or indestructible more important imho
 
@Alok Yes.
 
@BrianColvin XP and more than 4 GB of ram?!
 
10:04 PM
agreed
gold find + indestructable just got a buff
 
Jin
I don't understand the MF nerf though...
so what is MF good for anymore?
 
loot from things you kill
 
People were opening chests in whimsy all the time; so they nerfed it
 
I just had a decent idea for a logo that incoporates the heart if people vote to use the name 'insert coin' for the community content branding.
 
@QAdp special edition! XP64! :)
 
10:05 PM
@Jin nothing. which is good. I can't afford MF on my gear (in terms of stat allocation wise)
and swapping MF gear just before a boss dies is dumb
 
@Resorath Same here; gear with good stats and MF is kinda rare
 
@BrianColvin that's a nightmare from what I heard
 
Jin
@Resorath i agree. my MF set is at 250%-ish. i only used it for pony stage's chests..
 
Magic Find isn't about "this point" in the game's history
It's for when you can get MF + your main stat and farm stuff properly later in the game
NV is for now
 
@QAdp yea, it was, but back in the vista days there were only so many options
 
10:06 PM
Or until somebody comes up with another external application to swap your gear ala D2
 
@ickleislands I read there were already autoit scripts; but I don't use them so idk for sure
 
wouldn't surprise me
 
@BrianColvin back in the Vista days... there was Vista
 
And given the choice, gamers were on xp64, vista users were persecuted
 
@ickleislands There ARE auto keyboard scripts already and they are very easy to use. However any level of automation is probably discouraged right now until d3's warden is figured out
 
Jin
10:08 PM
@Resorath "HELLO??? AM I ALONE HERE????"
 
I'm still reading this cry thread about IAS nerf + people buying items off RMAH
It's making me cry from laughter irl
 
@Jin Thanks! For the record, are you okay with it if I build on this image and make it into a new work?
 
@Resorath Warden? The lame boss or the lame scanner? I doubt it does a good job
 
@Jin ???????
@Alok The memory scanner
 
@Alok it's known to be a little quick on the trigger in WoW
@alok ironically, it only ever seems to autoban people doing mundane things though, while completely missing bots
 
Jin
10:10 PM
@GnomeSlice go ahead. I'll let you know if I hear otherwise
 
Oh ok, haven't seen it do much in D3; keep reading about Crypt bots, Sarkoth bots etc.
 
Cool.
 
@ickleislands Eh - I do mundane things; now I've to go read how not to be confused for a bot?
 
I have a few old eq friends farming up gear on d3 by botting.. another reason RMAH is a joke
 
shrug :p
 
Jin
10:12 PM
I think the most civil offcial game forum I've ever participated in was City of Heroes'
 
I know their anti-gold-selling whatever doesn't work
 
Jin
I don't know what it was about that game, everyone was super friendly. Then I started WoW..
 
WoW is the addiction I am going to kill after smoking
 
Jin
@ickleislands I replaced WoW with smoking.
 
@Jin rofl
 
Jin
10:13 PM
so naturally, I should replace smoking with crack.
 
Its funny, friends who were addicted to eq, never had a problem with wow, but those that never played eq, got addicted to wow
 
no, don't take crack, it's genuinely one of the few things I'd recommend never to do, to everybody
been there, done that
avoid it like the plague
 
Jin
@ickleislands bubububt he said the first hit was free! such a nice guy.
 
@Jin 200bpm heart rates is not fun, especially when it feels like it wants to jump out of your chest and dance around in front of you while you die
 
Jin
@ickleislands bless your heart.
 
10:15 PM
The Airmech forums are still pretty civil.
 
gotta try everything once right? an opinion without experience is just uninformed dribble... nobody is entitled to have an opinion about something they've not experienced for themselves
like you need to take a career in politics or something
 
Jin
neat. i guess i'll start talking to the other 2 followers now
 
Ooh, Level 63 shoulders.
 
Jin
@fbueckert dropped in Act1?
 
@Jin 2.
 
10:18 PM
ROFL
"I suggest anyone annoyed that the 300 euros worth of items they just bought are now worth less than the Greek economy should quit this game"
2
falling off chair
thing is though, EULA won't protect Blizzard from breaking laws in individual countries, I'm interested to see what the fall out from this will be
although this is likely why RMAH isn't available in every country the game is available in
 
Jin
@GnomeSlice castlevania?
 
Which, by the way, is still my favourite indie game ever.
 
10:42 PM
Here: rallythehorde.com/2012/06/diablo-3-patch-notes-and-review.html In case you'd rather get your patch notes in snarky, angry format
 
@spugsley you seem to be filled with rage
 
@ickleislands She always is.
 
@spugsley RE: "How has the new updates affected your game play?" -> I made over £100 by selling IAS gear and I have an epic sized grin from ear to ear which is dramatically improving my gameplay
 
@Fluttershy lol
 
@spugsley You realize the loot changes mean more overall rares?
 
10:48 PM
wait, wtf?
> Destructible objects no longer have a chance to drop items, and will only have a small chance to drop gold when destroyed
So, they are basically just a complete waste of time which just take up space and get in the way?
 
@OrigamiRobot yeah but I'm still allowed to be mad
@Wipqozn yes
it's just menial gold amounts
 
If it's not worth your time to break them, then people won't bother, and then there is no point to them being in the game. Something which has no point to be there shouldn't be there.
 
@spugsley Also it doesn't say "Bosses no longer drop two rares" it's just not a guarantee
 
time to go out to eat for our anniversary :) bye guys
 
@spugsley I hear the Hummingbird is delightful. You should order that.
@Wipqozn FURY!
 
10:51 PM
@QAvenDreamer It's basic software design. If something serve no purpose, it shouldn't be there. All you do is take up space in the UI, and make it more confusing.
 
Like I said
FURY
And it's not that they serve no purpose, it's that their drops don't scale. They still have drops.
 
tortoise rage
 
I wish I had known Tomes of Jewelcrafting were selling for 2k before I used them all to make gems that are worth substantially less.
 
@QAvenDreamer and only drop gold.
 
@Wipqozn What is the name of the Barbarian's resource from hitting things?
@Wipqozn False!
 
10:52 PM
@Wipqozn turtle*
 
(Otherwise, what would magic find increase?)
 
@QAvenDreamer I've never played a barbarian, so I have no idea.
 
6 mins ago, by Wipqozn
> Destructible objects no longer have a chance to drop items, and will only have a small chance to drop gold when destroyed
 
@QAvenDreamer "Destructible objects no longer have a chance to drop items, and will only have a small chance to drop gold when destroyed"
 
@Wipqozn It's Fury.
@Wipqozn Oh, was this later on in the noteS?
I got distracted by hummingbirds.
 
10:55 PM
@QAvenDreamer Oh. I thought you meant I was in a FURY.
 
@QAvenDreamer You are thinking of the note that lootable objects no longer scale.
 
@OrigamiRobot No, i was under the impression that barrels et al still dropped items. If that's not true, my point is irrelevant.
@Wipqozn "What's the point of barrels now?" "Fury".
As in, the Barbarian can still get fury from them.
 
@QAvenDreamer Yes. I misunderstood.
I see your point now.
 
Monk can still crit them for sweeping wind, etc.
 
@QAvenDreamer We are talking about two patch notes here. The first implies that barrels simply do not scale. The second explicitly says destructible objects only drop gold.
 
10:57 PM
@OrigamiRobot Yes. I've caught up. I've already retracted my statement.
What else do you want from me, Robot?
 
@QAvenDreamer I think he's trying to throw you into a fury.
I keep wanting to say "Rage" instead of "fury" due to 3.5
 
@QAvenDreamer Lots of things.
 
@OrigamiRobot I sense fanfic material.
 
I'm getting an apartment in 5 weeks. You should come visit then.
 
It's a shame @Qana isn't here.
Anyways. I must be heading off.
 
11:01 PM
That is all.
So yeah, guess breaking pots isn't worth the time it takes me to click on them anymore, is it?
 
I play a wizard with Disintegrate and Chaos Nexus.
 
@QAvenDreamer In Raleigh?
 
Pots break when I breathe near them.
@OrigamiRobot Well, yeah.
 
@QAvenDreamer Just making sure...
 
> General
> Monks can now use spears, two-handed weapons, and two-handed swords
Are swords not considered weapons? O.o
 
11:04 PM
@QAvenDreamer They've always been able to use swords.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz 2-handed swords?
 
That's not an exclusive list, that's just the new additions.
@QAvenDreamer Oh I see what you mean.
Typos in patch notes happen dude.
 
They've always been able to use spears too.
@LessPopMoreFizz I got my first paycheck last week. It feels glorious.
 
@QAvenDreamer And soon, you will get your first bills.
It will feel less glorious.
Welcome to adulthood.
 
Whoa, tomes of jewelcrafting sell for… a lot right now.
 
11:06 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Thanks. I think.
 
@QAvenDreamer Not like anyone actually proofreads those patch notes
"Players can no longer avoid being frozen by doing high amounts of amount to Izual"
high amounts of amounts
 
@Resorath More like they get proofread so many times that minor mistakes become invisible.
 
They ninja fixed a typo on Izual section too
It was 'doing a high amount of amount' - turns out 2nd one was 'damage'
 
I'm reading these patch notes, and all I can think is
"That question needs to be updated, and that answer needs to be updated, and..."
 
11:11 PM
Hmm. I wonder what the new breakeven points are for upper-tier gems now.
 
@QAvenDreamer I think StrixVaria already started on updating stuff here; going to check if Lyceum actually appears now
 
@Resorath I like how the zombies are dancing
 
@QAvenDreamer yessss
 
Oh, hey. Herald of Pestilence tentacle attack nerf.
 
11:16 PM
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'If you attack a Beast with the Illusionist affix just prior to its charge, it will become unresponsive.' - new way to kill them easily till 1.0.4 hits?
 
Need more DPS to solo Belial now.
Too much health to kill him in three minutes.
 
11:42 PM
 
@fbueckert it makes it a little more challenging in that you have a definitive dps requirement now that is higher than it was before (before you just needed enough to kill the adds before they killed you)
@fbueckert Azmodan seems easier than it was before though, I just boosted 2 friends through it ;\
the change to hells grasp has removed the issue with latency one shotting you
 
Jin
holy repair bills batman... 28k
 
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MaxpmUnder what circumstances can Enforcers witness Criminals? I know about the handcuff icon, but it does not always appear. Sometimes I see people mugging and ram-raiding, and I can only witness them once they've handed their loot in to their contact.

 
Repair bills are a bit epic
 
11:54 PM
@Alok just did! crying with laughter
 
@ickleislands Yea I had to link it for people who don't read story forum; its awesome :). Didn't like the latest update (sorc) as much, but still not bad.
 

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