The Bridge

badp

3:02 PM

The whole body is decal'ed anyway

the red thing actually is a 42 decal stretched to cover the whole car

Cheaper and gets more interesting results than just buying paint

Ivo Flipse

@badp b :P

badp

@Ivo ...the next question is, do you sit at the toilet knees towards the wall? :/

or is it just the healthy thing to stare and analyze your fecal matter before washing it off :P

Ivo Flipse

@badp the wall? you mean the toilet is at an angle of the door?

I honestly don't care what the toilet looks like :P

Mana

> In addition to what everyone else suggested is if you have a smartphone get the battle.net authenticator for it. If you don't have a smartphone order one.

I laughed out loud at that last bit. So blunt.

Ivo Flipse

@Mana an authenticator I presume?

badp

3:06 PM

@IvoFlipse The thing is mounted against the wall. Rephrasing that, do you give shoulders to the wall leaning back onto the... erm, water source?

Mana

@Ivo Yeah.

badp

or am I supposed to use it the other way round

There has to be something wrong here

Ivo Flipse

@Mana you could interpret it as order a smartphone

Mana

@Ivo Yeah, that's what he's saying.

Grace Note

Why are you staring into the toilet bowl in the first place?

Mana

3:07 PM

Sorry, I was confused as to what you were asking.

Arda Xi

The Suspension Bridge, or: Teaching @badp how to use a toilet.

Ivo Flipse

@badp give shoulders to the wall? I think @ArdaXi has to come by and show you how to use the toilet

badp

@GraceNote Because if I don't I don't notice the water flush is insufficient to clean the unit

thedaian

@badp I believe the consensus the last time I had this discussion was to make a "sled" with toilet paper...

Grace Note

Aren't you off the toilet once you flush?

thedaian

3:08 PM

if you are truely concerned about the flush not working well enough

badp

@GraceNote I would be if I was confident about the thing, but empirical evidence shows I'm confident about the opposite

Grace Note

Oh, wait, I think I understand what you're saying now

sjohnston

@badp Obviously you just need to adjust your diet until you achieve the desired effect...

Grace Note

Because the deposit is ending up exceptionally distant from the exit point, it isn't being properly disposed.

Skooch farther up, I guess?

badp

Yeah. It doesn't help it... deposits on a more or less flat surface. It's like it's really designed for making me look at it

Grace Note

3:12 PM

Funky.

sjohnston

I think it's safe to say that this is the strangest and most technical dialogue about pooping I have ever experienced.

badp

If it wasn't interesting I wouldn't have started it

sjohnston

Gaming chat never ceases to amaze.

thedaian

New area 51 proposal: Pooping.SE

FallenAngelEyes

@badp Did you get an answer to your toilet question?

sjohnston

3:13 PM

@thedaian Hey, and we already have an example question

FallenAngelEyes

Because yeah, that's how all toilets here are

badp

okay, so there goes my chance of reporting this as a problem with the room

Grace Note

@thedaian It's called Skeptics.

badp

"The door is scratched. The bathroom light is burned. The toilet is mounted backwards."

thedaian

I can only imagine how that conversation would have gone "Sir, I believe your toilet holes are installed backwards"

Arda Xi

3:15 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Hmm? Ours is a).

FallenAngelEyes

@badp And actually, yes, that's the reason they're built that way

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Isn't that what she said?

badp

okay. I'm glad you have such a healthy relationship with your waste.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote I wasn't sure.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I was reading it as he had B here

badp

3:16 PM

That about wraps it up for me, thank you for the insight.

Arda Xi

Yeah, my mistake.

Grace Note

Pffft, what?

FallenAngelEyes

@badp Yeeeah, I dunno, it was really weird for me the first time I came here too

Grace Note

(Or, I'm guessing, you have both, I guess?)

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I have never seen A :o Huh

Arda Xi

3:16 PM

I've had both.

Simon Sheehan

Morning everyone

thedaian

It's just another thing that is weird in (parts of) europe.

Grace Note

Gaftoon, @Simon

Arda Xi

But it's not a Dutch thing to have b) at any rate.

FallenAngelEyes

Heya @Simon

Simon Sheehan

3:17 PM

Hows it going? :D

FallenAngelEyes

Germans have B as well

badp

Well, Italy is almost universally a)

FallenAngelEyes

And Belgium iirc

badp

as in, if there's somebody using b) I haven't met him

FallenAngelEyes

Also, one thing I find really weirdly fascinating is that in all the years I've been/visited here and all the WCs I've seen, I think I've seen a different flushing mechanism almost every time

I have never seen A anywhere

Arda Xi

3:18 PM

And yet I've seen it everywhere.

thedaian

come to the US, A is pretty much all we have :P

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes Anywhere in Europe or anywhere, period?

FallenAngelEyes

@thedaian Actually we have water in the bowls

Brant

There was a fascinating MetaFilter thread a few months ago on this exact topic.

badp

@FallenAngelEyes Well then, come to Italy and visit our beautiful bathrooms!

FallenAngelEyes

3:19 PM

A and B mean there is a platform out of water

so your uh, waste sits there dry on a platform thingie before flushing

badp

@FallenAngelEyes The blue thing also marks the water level, which is the same in both designs

Grace Note

And that the deposit is closer to the exit point in A, the only style I'd ever seen prior to badp's revelation.

thedaian

(there's water in our bowls, too)

badp

with the A design the fecal matter goes straight in the water "bowl"

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Pretty sure anywhere period

badp

3:20 PM

so you don't have to watch the water stream attempting and eventually succeeding in dislocating most of it.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Regarding the same type of design with the platform at least.

badp

38 mins ago, by badp

Out of curiosity - warning, unpleasant imagery ahead

I wasn't kidding with my warning :P

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes Now I'm a bit confused as to what you mean.

FallenAngelEyes

@badp I hope you don't end up with loose bowels while you're here. It splashes.

badp

@FallenAngelEyes er... splashing is what I left at home! I didn't mind it that much.

FallenAngelEyes

3:22 PM

@GraceNote In the US, I've seen A style but only with a full bowl of water. I've never seen A style here in Europe with the platform out of water.

@badp I don't mean water

badp

oh. ewww.

FallenAngelEyes

...and now, time for breakfast!

badp

\o/

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes So you're thinking /-|?

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes I think this platform part is confusing me.

Arda Xi

3:23 PM

We have \|

I think the problem is that badp's picture is two-dimensional.

badp

I'm kind of glad I don't have a photocamera here to provide you with photographical evidence

tzenes

does anyone know what the size limit is for a question/answer on stackexchange

Arda Xi

As am I.

@tzenes There's a size limit?

badp

@tzenes Whereabouts of 3k/30k characters IIRC

FallenAngelEyes

badp

3:24 PM

Yes, that's what I have here.

thedaian

I believe this discussion is equal to the Soda/Pop discussion, except it's about toilets and it's usually more international

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes That's the B style, aye. Never seen that anywhere in the US

tzenes

is it 3k or 30k?

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, exactly. That's |-_

Grace Note

Or in Taiwan, either.

FallenAngelEyes

3:25 PM

@GraceNote Me neither

Grace Note

Which leaves US as the A style, then, aye?

Arda Xi

I've seen those, but that's definitely not what we have.

FallenAngelEyes

I'm saying I've never seen A style in the US either, not without water

badp

> Oops! Your question couldn't be submitted because: body is limited to 30000 characters; you entered 375456

@tzenes

Grace Note

Ah

badp

3:26 PM

I went a bit crazy with the copy pasting there.

Arda Xi

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi image not found

badp

@ArdaXi ...and that's what I left at home

Arda Xi

Well, that's what we have.

Grace Note

@badp Well, think of it this way - squat toilets.

Arda Xi

3:27 PM

I've seen those in Italy.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi Ah okay, I thought you meant with a more pronounced shelf

Which is what I've not seen here

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes Err? "Pronounced shelf"?

badp

@GraceNote ...I've had to use that once, and it's still at the end of the day an A model. Kinda

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi Like the pic of the B model

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes Ah, like the platform.

Grace Note

3:30 PM

@badp Heh

FallenAngelEyes

Right

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes I don't think anyone makes a toilet like that.

Well, there might be, but it's probably much uncommon.

FallenAngelEyes

I thought you guys were describing a platform style one

@GraceNote Haha hence my confusion!

Arda Xi

I think what we're discussing is not so much the placement of the water bowl as the presence of that platform.

Grace Note

Yeah. I figured the platform was the issue here.

Arda Xi

3:31 PM

As such, badp just sucks at drawing a representative picture.

Grace Note

I figured badp was all about the position of the hole, though.

2

Arda Xi

Blame @badp.

Loktar

lol I have been watching this for the past 45 mins or so

cracking me up

so much about toilets!

thedaian

toilets are serious business

FallenAngelEyes

On a y'know, gaming note

Arda Xi

3:32 PM

@GraceNote If you read this aloud, it brings up an... interesting picture.

@FallenAngelEyes A what note?

FallenAngelEyes

I think this is deserving of a plot tag, neh?

13

Q: If the nuclear holocaust happened in 2077, then why are the clothes and music in the style of the 1950s?

If the nuclear holocaust happened in 2077, then why are the clothes and music in the style of the 1950s? (source)

fallout-series

badp

@Loktar well! if you thought you could give toilets for granted -- you're wrong!

thedaian

yeah, 'plot' would make sense

badp

@FallenAngelEyes I dunno, it's not really about the plot is it?

It's more about the... context?

lore?

Dunno

thedaian

or lore. lore would be better....

FallenAngelEyes

3:33 PM

We don't have a lore tag at all I don't think

Oh we do

badp

We do and it's got 7 questions

FallenAngelEyes

on 7 other questions apparently

badp

Well if you feel like proposing a merge for it post on meta!

FallenAngelEyes

Mmmm, that's rough. They really are 2 different things. Are we okay with having the distinction?

badp

I'm okay with it, but have we been using the tags appropriately so far?

Grace Note

3:35 PM

Is it really an important distinction?

FallenAngelEyes

I'm missing 3 questions from lore. Are some in SCII or WoW?

thedaian

also @FallenAngelEyes thanks for writing up those insanely huge and awesome blog posts about gamescon

FallenAngelEyes

@thedaian I'm glad you enjoyed them! There's still more on the way

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes 2 WoW, 1 Mass Effect, 1 Terraria, 1 League of Legends, 1 Dungeon Siege, 1 Fallout

Oh, right, @Fallen - congrats from up on high about your blog posts. Even Jeff is impressed and extremely satisfied with the job you did.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote I'm not sure. On one hand, they're not necessarily a problem, on the other, we do support them, and I've never seen any severe quality issues on them.

@GraceNote Oh wow! :D Thanks for letting me know!

Grace Note

3:38 PM

@FallenAngelEyes I'm not thinking on quality, just in terms of tag quantity. It's like the "indefinite-articles" versus "definite-articles" on English - sure, you could have separate tags, but is it an important enough distinction?

Is the post/back-story distinct enough from the during-story that it warrants a separate tag, is my thought. It might be, it might not be.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Hm. I'm thinking meta post now.

Grace Note

No harm in such. ♪

tzenes

@badp ty

badp

plus.google.com/109749908472475765778/posts/XonLRgMLmrz

I make the best promotions for this community

FallenAngelEyes

...ahahaha

Mana

3:45 PM

"earthliest of topics" Well-played.

thedaian

hahahaha

Mana

Also welcome to the chat, @thedaian! Or maybe I'm just silly and you've been here this whole time.

Grace Note

'e's b'n 'n 'ere awh'lst

Mana

oh.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote I'dn't've.

thedaian

3:50 PM

Thanks for the welcome, Mana.

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Only my favorite contraction to use there.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Mine too!

Doesn't do the image. :(

Grace Note

Wow, that's weird that it doesn't. I wonder what it uses to determine the image...

Arda Xi

New log-in page is pretty.

And now Google+ is considering my non-apps account as an apps account.

Grace Note

Multiple signin?

FallenAngelEyes

3:54 PM

@GraceNote If you have more than 1 google account

thedaian

hmm, that's kind of cool

Arda Xi

I've got ~~two~~ three now.

Maybe it'll work if I use ardaxi.com instead.

FallenAngelEyes

I have 2 that I seriously use and like 3 throwaway

Wipqozn

I have four gmail accounts myself.

FallenAngelEyes

One's associated to a fake facebook account that I made for one of my CoH characters for the Steam thing

Grace Note

3:56 PM

@FallenAngelEyes I have more than one Google Mail account... in that I have... 10 now, I believe.

Arda Xi

I need a non-Apps account that Google thinks belongs to someone who is 18 years old.

@GraceNote Are they accounts, or aliases?

Grace Note

All accounts.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi They just indexed this! You're too late, they know!

Grace Note

It's especially a bit troublesome because I need to constantly switch between three specific ones now and then.

Arda Xi

They also know ardaxi.com is an alias for arienh4.net.

I'm not fooling anyone.

@GraceNote W-why?

Anyway, here.

google.com/accounts/MultipleSessions

FallenAngelEyes

3:57 PM

@ArdaXi Yeah, given that I access them all from the same IP, it's not like they can't figure it out

badp

oh google plus

Grace Note

@ArdaXi I set them up at least half of them, like, when Gmail first came into being, so I didn't even bother to learn that aliasing was a thing you could do.

badp

Brant

Hahaha.

FallenAngelEyes

@badp "did something"?!

badp

3:58 PM

I really need to find the 'Do something' button

3

It sounds awesome

FallenAngelEyes

Oh

wait

I read that as "did something to you" and was a little more flabbergasted than the situation warranted

2

Arda Xi

@badp Do you happen to have G+ invites left?

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Ooh, nicely nicely. Thanks!

badp

@ArdaXi All of them

Mana

@Arda I have 150 Google+ invites left.

Arda Xi

4:00 PM

personal@ardaxi.com

badp

Do not attempt to recognize people by their avatars, for they have been anonymized behind recognition

Mana

You can't have any though.

Brant

thedaian

I also have all of my invites left.

FallenAngelEyes

wow, they're really rolling them out now

Mana

4:00 PM

I HAVE FRIENDS ;_;

Arda Xi

Thank you.

badp

Here, get a Google+ account if you've been living under a rock

FallenAngelEyes

@badp stays firmly under her rock

Brant

Or get one from me because I'm cooler.

Grace Note

Huh. Careers is asking me to update my totally defunct profile.

I don't even know why I hooked them up with that email account, though. I'd've imagined I'd've used a different one.

badp

4:03 PM

@GraceNote Your employee did change :P

Grace Note

@badp It changed a year ago, too, back after I first filled it out.

Ooh, right, that's why I never even accepted that one G+ invite to my personal email account - "Your browser isn't supported"

FallenAngelEyes

we need a [tag:tag...synonyms?] tag :P

aw, doesn't support more punctuation

Brant

@GraceNote Sheesh, what are you using?

Arda Xi

Wow, G+ is really Google Diaspora.

Grace Note

@Brant Firefox

thedaian

4:07 PM

Grace is using Lynx :P

Mana

@GraceNote Oh, I forgot that you stick to FF3

badp

FF... 3?

Grace Note

@Mana Out of laziness, not out of any sticklerness

3.5.16

FallenAngelEyes

still uses Seamonkey <_<

badp

Well that's a year better than 3 I guess

Mana

4:08 PM

Surprised to see it's unsupported though.

badp

wasn't the Google policy "the latest two final releases of each browser?"

Brant

My parents' main computer is an old powerpc mac mini running 10.4. ff 3.5.x is the latest browser they can use. :(

Grace Note

Pfft, there's an "Other" option for Gender? They make it too easy!

badp

@Brant Not even Chromium?

Brant

I only bought it in 2005 too.

Hmm, not sure about chrome, actually.

badp

4:09 PM

@GraceNote You were already looking forward to oscillating your gender via cron jobs? :P

Brant

> the best way to get an oran berry is from growing them but the fact is that you cant double them so u might as well use cheats.

Can anyone parse the second half of that?

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Yeah, I really like that

Mana

But there's no "Undisclosed" option

which caused a huge fuss back when XKCDguy called them out on it

thedaian

@Brant looks like... uh "You can't get more than one oran berry, so cheat"

Arda Xi

@Mana Randall?

Mana

4:11 PM

@ArdaXi HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED

Arda Xi

Randall Munroe.

Mana

shudders

Arda Xi

The huge fuss about Google+ is them knocking on pseudonyms.

Mana

@ArdaXi No, there was a fuss before that

Arda Xi

For example, if I were to sign up as Arda Xi, they would suspend my Google account.

Grace Note

4:12 PM

I ponder how it selects "Suggestions"

Yi Jiang

@thedaian He thinks that you can only get one berry each time you try to grow one (which itself takes one, so no net increase in berries)

Arda Xi

@Mana is.

FallenAngelEyes

I think the most inclusive gender field selection I've seen is on Fetlife

Arda Xi

But yeah, I'd rather use Diaspora than Google+ to be honest.

Mana

@Arda Here

Arda Xi

4:13 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Obviously.

badp

@ArdaXi Well I guess that it's not really a problem anymore for Grace anyway, since her name and his surname are now on the headline of the SE blog

Yi Jiang

I don't think that's true, by the way - you just need to do a lot more watering for the harder to grow berries

Arda Xi

Which, by the way... does anyone here use Diaspora?

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi Their selections for Orientation and Role are very complete as well, I like it

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Oh, really?

Arda Xi

4:14 PM

@GraceNote Yes, really.

badp

@ArdaXi Is it ready for use still?

Arda Xi

Not Google Plus account, Google account.

Brant

Yeah, google nymwars, it's an ongoing... internet thing.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi We've looked into it but I thought it was a little dead in the water last I checked

badp

uh.. no, they'd suspend your Google Profile account

Arda Xi

4:14 PM

So if I were to use my main and sign up as Arda Xi, I would lose access to my email.

Grace Note

It said you needed to make a Google account to make a Google+ account.

badp

that'd be Reader Buzz Plus and +1 I think

Arda Xi

@badp That's what they're saying.

That's not what they're doing.

@FallenAngelEyes I host my own node. Well, hosted, anyway, no idea if it's still up.

I should set up a script for it.

Actually, I should re-install it completely.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I really like the idea behind it, but last I knew the implementation part wasn't going so well

Arda Xi

It's had its issues.

Grace Note

4:16 PM

Hum. This is ill.

Arda Xi

But it works pretty well.

Mana

Ill beats, yo.

Grace Note

I liked that email address, too.

Arda Xi

Hm?

Grace Note

@ArdaXi I wasn't partial towards creating a whole Google account associated with that email address.

Arda Xi

4:18 PM

I see.

Grace Note

They do have an option that deletes the profile but does not destroy your GMail, though

Arda Xi

I was still thinking about setting up a Facebook/Diaspora bridge.

Allowing people to use Diaspora without having to convince all their friends to switch.

Grace Note

Well, so ends my extraordinarily short foray into Google+.

Arda Xi

I'd like to see a world in which Diaspora is the lowest common denominator, allowing you to use one site and still keep up privacy and communicate with people across social networks.

Grace Note

I should read an article on this Diaspora thing. Because I'm pretty sure it's something more than a city in Ogre Battle.

FallenAngelEyes

4:24 PM

@ArdaXi Indeed

Arda Xi

@GraceNote It's open-source social networking.

Based on email.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote joindiaspora.com

Arda Xi

Anyone can host a server, and the servers are all connected.

Grace Note

Uh huh

Arda Xi

The same thing XMPP does for IM.

And it invented the circles G+ uses.

Brant

4:26 PM

@badp:

4

Q: Someone did something in Google+, but what did they do?

What actually happened when the Google+ notification says a contact "did something"? Here's a screenshot of the notification I see in Gmail about G+ activity: Rahul yadav added you on Google+. Gaurav Tripathi & Nilesh did something. But what did the contacts on the second line act...

google-plus notifications

-8

Q: Why some company don't have ads on their facebook page?

Why some companies don't have ads on their facebook page? Some companies like Fanta (http://www.facebook.com/fanta) or Victoria secret (http://www.facebook.com/victoriassecret) don't have ads but others big company have ads on their page. Is there a way to remove these ads from a facebook page ...

facebook page ads

whee.

I'm really glad I'm not a SO moderator today.

FallenAngelEyes

@Brant ...wow

Mana

I'm really glad I'm not an SO moderator for the next few months.

badp

@Brant answered

FallenAngelEyes

think I shall play some more Rift

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes What class are you playing?

FallenAngelEyes

4:32 PM

@Wipqozn I've got a level 11 Defiant Bahmi Dominator/Necromancer/Warlock atm

was about to roll a Guardian so I could see their starting area

Lazers

2

Q: Plot vs. Lore tags - do we need the distinction?

In asking the chat room whether the plot tag would be appropriate for this question, we briefly discussed which tag would be appropriate, plot or lore and whether or not they needed to be distinct. We have 49 questions tagged plot and 7 questions tagged lore. I've never seen any seriously proble...