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4:00 PM
@Braiam That's probably cause you've screwed with your init system. I get the same output as derobert
@mikeserv I see, nice.
 
@terdon which system ? mint ?
 
@Kiwy Mint Debian, it's basically wheezy but green.
 
and now for another reboot...
 
@terdon I like green, but so far Ubuntu is the very only one to support my hardware that is already 3 years old
 
time to really cross my fingers, as that was for a kernel upgrade and got weird grub errors, forcing a grub-install. WTF...
 
4:04 PM
@Kiwy I don't believe that. I've always had better chances with hardware under Mint than Ubuntu and had no problems at all with LMDE. Hardware support is one of the things they've improved with respect to Debian I think.
@derobert ouch... good luck
 
Did I mentiion the machine is > 500 km from here?
Ah! Its booting into recovery mode, because of a problem in /etc/fstab. I'm happy ssh is set to start real early.
 
@terdon nope
 
Explains why it doesn't know the runlevel.
 
@Braiam nope?
 
dpkg -S /sbin/reboot
systemd-sysv: /sbin/reboot
 
4:06 PM
@derobert 500km are nothing, just a few hour drive ;-)
 
I replaced systemv scripts with systemd
 
Hi all, how is initlevel 0 or 6 useful?
 
@Braiam yeah, exactly.
$ dpkg -S /sbin/reboot
sysvinit: /sbin/reboot
@Ramesh On what system? 0 should be halt and 6 reboot on most of them
 
*runlevel 0 corresponds to halt and 6 corresponds to reboot. If I set it, what can I do? Is there any practical usage to setting these runlevels in /etc/inittab file?
 
@Ramesh No, they are used to shutdown or reboot the machine
 
4:09 PM
If I set initdefault as 0 in /etc/inittab file, does that mean I screw up my machine?
 
@terdon "yeah, exactly. You are awesome" ;)
@Ramesh ô.o
@Ramesh I recommend against
 
@Braiam, what is the use of setting that runlevel?
 
@Ramesh right now is mostly historical
and for systems that still use sysv
and for scripts that are still sysv
 
@Braiam Which isn't that odd. All my machines are still on sysv init. And most servers probably are as well.
 
oh ok. Thanks for the info :)
 
4:12 PM
@derobert mine was up to couple of months ago ;)
 
@Braiam huh? Your setup is different because you have changed the init. WHat do you mean?
 
@terdon egoboost
 
4:38 PM
@english_speaker_native may I ask some of you to read my resume and told me if there are incorrect or non sense in it ?
 
@Kiwy sure, mail it to me if you like: selenop at gmail.com
 
@terdon as it's in my public profil, you rather download it
in french ==> https://kiwypedia.fr/pdf/CV_Antoine_Dubois_fr.pdf
or in english https://kiwypedia.fr/pdf/CV_Antoine_Dubois_en.pdf
Or in form of a website
also thank you @terdon, that's nice
 
slm
@Gilles Not in any tangible way. Just notice when A's get reversed and it's generally to your A's.
 
I don't know what did that, but it seems the Vista installation finally fails
Mouhahahaha I'm now very happy
 
slm
I think I did all 34 of these 8-)
> 34 0 Unix and Linux
 
4:53 PM
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A: Tool to force use FILE instead of RAM

GillesThere is something kind of what you describe: there is a feature to limit the amount of RAM used by a process (RAM, as opposed to virtual memory). The RLIMIT_RSS limit sets an upper bound a program's resident set size, i.e. the part of the memory of that process which is resident in memory (as op...

 
@Kiwy Octobre 2013 => OctoBER
 
@terdon screw me
 
deployement => deployment
 
@terdon thank you I'm correcting that right now
 
English: read, write and spoken : don't mix tenses, say "read, write and speak" or, better, "writtten and spoken" (read is kind of implied if you can write it)
Don't say read write and speak, it sounds weird.
Concert, movies => concertS, movies
And I'd call those hobbies not spare time activities
Oh, and improvisationAL theater
By the way, viola seriously? Cool! I used to play the violin as a kid :)
 
5:04 PM
@terdon I only did see one concert :D
@terdon yes really for 15 years, I want to start again
 
@Kiwy What! You stopped? Why do people stop playing music? I'll never understand. I mean I stopped the violin too but never stopped playing
 
I miss it
@terdon I stopped because I was leaving at 3 different place and moving every month and I wasn't able to move with my viola
 
unix.stackexchange.com/questions/124928/… ... ok, how many ways can we come up with to interact with the kernel w/o a syscall?
 
@Kiwy pffft, that's no excuse. Your instrument is tiny! I'd buy that if you were a piano player but I've been carrying guitar(s) around 4 different countries.
 
@terdon I rented it I do not own one
 
5:09 PM
Ah. Yes, the damn things are ridiculously expensive. Even easier then, you can just rent one wherever you go!
 
@terdon I was renting two appartement with the salary of a student working part time
:-/
 
@Kiwy And you chose something useless like food over music!
 
@terdon Yes I know, I'm fucking weak
sometime I need to eat
 
@derobert forcing the kernel to shut down a process is not a very interesting interaction, though. and ultimately, isn't everything in a unix-like system a kernel interaction?
I think this question could use a more precise statement.
 
@FaheemMitha Yeah. Not very interesting, hence its a trivial counter-example. Less trivial ones include vdso, some kernel mmap'd interfaces, etc.
But with how unclear that question is...
 
5:25 PM
Can contact with the kernel be characteristised in some way by how "atomic" it is? I mean, like a unit of interaction?
 
@terdon thank you for the help, I will finish correcting tommorow :)
 
@Kiwy SQL et PLSQL. That should be "and".
Top right -> Buisness should be Business
@terdon "written and spoken". two t's.
 
@FaheemMitha ugh, of course (blush)
 
Don't know what "(Semester 4 & 5 no diploma)" mean.
"Studies and maintenance for the IT evolvement".
You almost certainly mean "involvement" there, but it still sounds odd to an English-speaking year.
Ok, maybe environment?
@Kiwy ^^
 
5:54 PM
@faheemmitha i will modify it. Thank you
I think i mean évolution btw ;-)
 
@Kiwy no mark over the e.
 
I'm on my phone auto correction is a pain in the ass :-D
 
@slm btw, since our blog is online now, do you want to write an article for it?
 
@strugee It is? Why do the links still point to the main SE blog then?
 
@terdon no idea, but it's at unix.blogoverflow.com
I mean, it's been online for a while but we're all set to go now that the theme is up
 
6:00 PM
@Kiwy Faheem is right, I missed that but maintenance for the IT evolution makes no sense to me either
 
I'll post a meta question about it so that people know it's ready
 
@strugee Cool
@strugee where's you article? It's online but has the hello world post only
 
@terdon it's still in the draft state
 
Then the blog is hardly ready is it? :P
 
@terdon :P
I'll publish right now, I just have to recompile the Markdown
this may take a minute, I have to pull the Markdown package from Cygwin
twiddles fingers
aaaand Cygwin doesn't have Markdown.
I'll use the dingus, hold on
 
6:05 PM
@strugee you're using Cygwin?
 
@FaheemMitha cries yes
 
@strugee why?
 
@FaheemMitha this laptop is fucked up
 
@strugee bummer
 
@FaheemMitha yeah. when I get around to it I'm going to ask a question about chainloading GRUB from an MBR disk, so that I can get a bootable system from a flash drive.
 
6:08 PM
@strugee Maybe you should get around to it now. Using Cygwin falls under the category of cruel and unusual punishment.
 
@FaheemMitha really though.
 
6:20 PM
strugee on April 15, 2014

Hey everyone, welcome to the inaugural Unix & Linux community blog post. Let’s get started.

If you’re like me, you work on many different kinds of computers. I have two Darwin machines that I regularly work on; I have about four different installs of Arch GNU/Linux, and I am planning to add even more esoteric distributions to one of my boxes. I work in Cygwin. And I have a Debian Sid box, which needs to be converted to something else.

My point is not that I like distribution-hopping. My point is that many of us use very diverse environments, and even if we don’t use very di …

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I see a variation of this vexatious topic is back again:
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Q: Is it ethical for advisors to automatically coauthor papers?

shaneI work in a field (Philosophy) where co-authorship is uncommon and advisors and grad students very seldomly co-author a paper. I've seen a lot of posts on Academia.se though about the ethics of co-authoring papers with mentors, such as this question. My sense is that it must be somewhat common i...

 
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Q: Call For Papers: the blog is ready!

strugeeA little while ago, the new design for our blog went up. I've now published the first post, so let's write! Remember that even if something would be closed on the main site, it might still make a really good blog post (or series of blog posts)! This is an awesome community; we can come up with lo...

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can someone star that?
 
@strugee Star your post?
 
@FaheemMitha yeah, the message
so it gets on the starwall
 
@strugee is that ok?
 
6:29 PM
@FaheemMitha thanks!
@terdon dunno if you saw, I published
 
@strugee how does this compare to say etckeeper?
 
you're mentioned
@FaheemMitha this = ?
oh I see what you're saying
etckeeper does two things:
1. it keeps track of permissions
2. it ensures that commit authorship remains consistent even though the tool is run as root.
 
I think joeyh manages a bunch of configs across different machines. not sure what he uses. there is this new thing called git annex. i think that is for managing large files?
 
you don't really need either of those things for dotfiles
 
@strugee ok
 
6:30 PM
ah, yes. one sec, I forget what git-annex does
git-annex is kind of like Dropbox using git as a backend
there isn't really a reason to use it for dotfiles.
one of the main benefits to git-annex is that it does client-side encryption, but you don't want that with dotfiles because you want to be able to shamelessly link to yourself
 
@strugee ok. i thought it was a largefiles sort of thing.
for vcs.
 
@FaheemMitha yeah
 
6:50 PM
@strugee cool!
 
\o/
 
 
1 hour later…
8:14 PM
Are there other people lined up to write blog posts?
 
9:09 PM
This Debian situation is probably worth writing a blog post about.
 
@FaheemMitha what situation?
it's been a decade since I stopped following debian news
 
@Gilles one sec. i'll post a link
 
@FaheemMitha I have a couple of ideas. Next month I may even have time
 
This is just a symptom - these problems seems to occuring more frequently in other places. R packaging seems to be having similar problems, though not so bad.
 
@FaheemMitha this looks like run-of-the-mill debian drama
 
9:15 PM
@Gilles I'm not sure I agree.
 
 
2 hours later…
slm
11:07 PM
@strugee sure, did you have a topic or shall I just pick whatever I want?
@strugee It's git tracking minus the multiple revisions of the actual binary blobs of files.
 
11:24 PM
This question should be reopened:
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Q: Rearrange text file

user65305I have a file whose content looks like this: 2009 150 0 0 0 0000 75.316 0.0400390625 0.00007 0.00000 0.8980 76.216 0.0400390625 0.00007 1.00000 0.9046 77.217 0.0400390625 0.00009 2.00000 0.9113 78.341 0.0400390625 0.00010 3.00000 0.9183 2009 150 2 ...

I really don't see how any sane person who has read the question and seen the answers can think this is too broad.
@slm, @FaheemMitha, @Gilles
 
11:50 PM
@Graeme Reopened.
 
@FaheemMitha Thanks
 

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