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3:07 PM
Feb 24 at 19:01, by Roujo
@Downgoat "Hi, you must be looking at your console wondering what the heck this message means. It means you should be happy that this message is being logged otherwise something very wrong happened"
 
@DJMcMayhem Belated thanks for your belated happy birthday greeting :D
Well, belated in my timezone. Not yours
 
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Cow
 
Cow do you do?
 
I think I broke Mathematica...
 
@Sherlock9 I don't usually mind puns, but that's milking it a bit, don't you think?
 
3:12 PM
@Geobits That's udderly pathetic.
 
If you think that's reaching a bit, you haven't heard my other humoorous puns
 
@MartinEnder Moove it to the trash then :P
 
@MartinEnder dont bork in Wolfram Programming Lab
 
Cattle be all the puns I can come up with
 
@TùxCräftîñg He's borking in his own install.
 
3:15 PM
@Sherlock9 Oh? I herd you were good at this.
 
Nah, I was just bulling your leg
 
@TùxCräftîñg It's not quite reliably reproducible for some reason.
 
huh TNB refreshed for no reason
 
@Sherlock9 I think it's belated in both. It was Thursday right?
 
On mathics, it doesn't work:
 
3:16 PM
@Sherlock9 To beef air, I didn't see that one coming.
 
I udderstand if you want more puns, so I'll hoof to come up with more later
 
$Invalid syntax nearing token *.$
 
@TùxCräftîñg Try something else: enter (a /* b)[x] ... evaluate it. then edit it by inserting @* c after the b. then evaluate again.
 
@DJMcMayhem It said 10 pm UTC on Thursday in the transcript
 
@Sherlock9 I cud wait, so no worries.
 
3:17 PM
@Poke Huh, must be a userscript thing then
 
@MartinEnder still work as expected
 
oh gosh
no more cowpuns
it hurts
 
@TùxCräftîñg interesting. with the above procedure it's reproducible for me. (in Mathematica 11)
 
Are they not humerus enough?
 
I rebooted my awesome workspace after 3 months of inactivity.
 
3:19 PM
They're a little spotty
 
@Sherlock9 oic
 
Well any pun chain gets pretty cheesy before long.
 
@* for composition and /* for inverse composition. very natural digraphs
 
You've just got to grab it by the horns and go for it.
 
Yeah if I can make an analogy it goes from fresh milk to a curdled mess
 
3:20 PM
you're really milking those puns
 
I'm just reaching :\
 
@Yodle If I was really milking them, I'd dairyou to come up with some too.
 
well now i'm just in a sour moood from all the puns
and i'm utterly disappointed in myself for continuing this
 
Nah, don't leather be any reason to feel bad about it.
 
this has gone whey too far
i don't think i've encowntered a pun chain this long
 
3:29 PM
Should it be put out to pasture then?
 
Awww yisss, it's a herd of puns!
 
nah i think we need to just raise the steaks
 
--..--
 
(Please tell me you haven't herd that one before...)
 
3:30 PM
Raise the steaks? What brand of wager did you have in mind?
 
0
A: Prime factors buddies

TimmyDPowerShell v3+, 450 bytes param($n)function f{param($a)for($i=2;$a-gt1){if(!($a%$i)){$i;$a/=$i}else{$i++}}} $y=($x=@((f $n)-split'(.)'-ne''|sort))|?{$_-eq(f $_)} $a,$b=$x $a=,$a while($b){$z,$b=$b;$a=$a+($a+$y|%{$c="$_";0..$c.Length|%{-join($c[0..$_]+$z+$c[++$_..$c.Length])};"$z$c";"$c$z"})|sele...

 
Oh, now I see why Timmy wasn't in the pun chain like he usually is. He was busy posting a novel :)
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Loser gets branded
 
Hey cowpoke, don't you think that's a bit much?
 
I laughed harder than I should have with that one even though it's bull
 
3:33 PM
0
Q: dynamic selection in php and mysql

user_nemywhich is the error of my code? $(function(){ $('#carreras').change(function(){ var id = $(this).val(); $.ajax({ url : "docente.php", type : "POST", carrera : false, data : { 'id' : id }, ...

 
is this a puzzle or a so post?
 
@TùxCräftîñg They posted on codegolf but it looks like they should probably steer clear of this site with that kind of question
 
@TùxCräftîñg Neither
 
@Poke it wouldn't be welcome on SO either
 
I just wanted an excuse to say "steer"
 
3:36 PM
Would Code Review take it?
Steeriously?
 
Code Review likes working code.
 
no, too ugly :P
 
well done, everyone. time for lunch
 
@Sherlock9 no
 
@Poke Wow, I totally missed that. Good heifert.
 
3:37 PM
they use tabs (ugh) and even before : (ugh ugh ugh ugh)
 
@TùxCräftîñg Seriously, there's no point in editing that garbage. It doesn't help anyone
 
@NewMainPosts i love how it's tagged php
 
i dont support non-monospaced code
 
I don't support off-topic questions
 
I don't support questions
 
3:38 PM
I don't question support.
 
I don't support null.
 
I don't question.
 
Hi @Quill, I haven't seen you in here in a while!
 
i'm not really here, i'm just a ghost of more enjoyable times
 
Oh, back before the incident?
 
3:41 PM
The ghost of Christmas TNB past?
 
@Quill you're back!
 
@Geobits Unless you're joking about the incident, it must have happened while I was away
 
From the ghostly depths of the user list! :D
Hello, let's hug :D
 
@ETHproductions I never joke about the incident.
 
Did anyone ever see an electric steam engine?
 
3:41 PM
@Geobits oh... ok
 
please don't joke about the incident
 
the incident?
 
c... can... can I ask w-what h-happened?
 
It might be better not to bring it up. People still have beef about it.
 
Is it worth answering your own question on SO if I had already marked one as the answer?
 
3:44 PM
If it's a better answer, sure.
 
@Geobits Why are you so italic?
 
The benevolence of the mods was visited upon me.
 
Is this sandboxed challenge ready to post? It's been in the sandbox for, what, 9 days now?
I've rewritten it completely at least 3 times
 
@flawr Hah, that's pretty cool.
 
@El'endiaStarman This guy is a real genious!
 
3:49 PM
@ETHproductions I think so, but it's not my area of specialty or anything, so I may have missed something. As for "Is uniqueness necessary?", I think it's better with it.
 
@Geobits What did they do to you? Torture?
 
@flawr Basically. They why the tilt. I can't stand up straight now.
 
@Geobits Hah, thanks. :D
 
@Geobits Did you already contact wikileaks?
 
@flawr We did nothing of that sort!
 
3:51 PM
Wikileaks? No, why?
 
@ETHproductions Looks good to me.
 
congrats on the minor css change geobytes
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@Geobits Oh, is it because you're room owner?
 
Yeah, that
@Quill Thanks :)
 
\o/ yay @Geobits congrats
 
4:15 PM
yay i have created a 100-line long, ugly and without backtracking BASIC-like 'tokenizer'
 
You mean a tokenizer in Basic-like or something that tokenizes Basic-like?
 
a thing like in most basic dialects Sin(1 is 2 bytes becuz of tokens
def self.encode(s)
    s = s.chars
    tokens = []
    while s != [] do
        c = s.shift
        i = 2
        l = TOKENS.select {|e| e[0] == c}
        tmp = c
        while l.length > 1 do
            c = s.shift
            if c == nil then
                break
            end
            tmp += c
            l = TOKENS.select {|e| e.chars.take(i).join == tmp}
            if l.length == 1 then
                while s[0] == l[0][i] do
                    s.shift
                    i += 1
 
Oh, so a sort of golfBASIC then?
 
TOKENS is a array with all possible tokens
oh and also it take 2 minutes to tokenize 100 Sin(
even regex is faster -.-
wait its stuck in a infinite loop
well it's pretty fast finally
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Suhrid MulayCompute The anti-derivative of a non-constant function Most of us know how anti derivatives work. They are basically the sums of infinite number of very small elements (or units). The challenge here is to calculate anti derivative of a function (NON CONSTANT). using any programming language ex...

 
4:33 PM
@Quill what css change im on mobile
 
Start: "P" "rint \"Hello, World!\""
Start possible: ["P", "Print"]
Scan possible: ["Print"]
Removing next tokens...
End: "Print" (108) " \"Hello, World!\""
Whitespace, cancelling character...
Start: "\"" "Hello, World!\""
Start possible: ["\""]
End: "\"" (88) "Hello, World!\""
Start: "H" "ello, World!\""
Start possible: ["H"]
End: "H" (8) "ello, World!\""
Start: "e" "llo, World!\""
Start possible: ["e"]
End: "e" (31) "llo, World!\""
Start: "l" "lo, World!\""
Start possible: ["l"]
End: "l" (38) "lo, World!\""
Print "Hello, World!" tokenized (with nice output)
 
@betseg thE mAgical italic
 
in The Block, 10 secs ago, by Marky Markov
@TùxCräftîñg worf!
TIL marky iz a dog
 
Finally got a damn answer added
 
:O where
@confusedandamused
 
4:37 PM
Just on SO but I got over 50+ rep now...It got accepted because I answered the question at hand, but the other posters only gave snippets and not an explanation. The question should have been marked as a duplicate, but I can't do that so I answered it.
The OP asked about suppressing a stack imbalance warning from the debugger and nobody ~actually~ answered it but me. I quoted another post and added some and cited it...one guy was quite angry.
@TùxCräftîñg
 
This answer is largely a copy and paste of the answer from the older duplicate question stackoverflow.com/questions/3506796/… Better to just close this question as a duplicate rather than copy its answers here. — hatchet 9 mins ago
well, i agree it's a copypaste...
gtg
 
Yeah - I agree as well - but the question he posted was in my original answer lol - I have no ability to close or else I would x.x
 
add a comment like Possible duplicate of [this](link-to-the-question)
 
Now that I can add comments I shall :) - someone else edited my answer formatting it to show the source more clearly so I'll do that in the future
 
@confusedandamused When you have 500 rep, you can also actually vote to close questions, but for now you may want to flag questions for closure.
These flag reasonings are there for users with ut 500 rep.
 
4:57 PM
:O today is my two year PPCG birthday!
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The badge should be recurring for each year where you earned at least 200 rep.
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@DJMcMayhem congrats! :D
 
yay @DJMcMayhem
noted @zyabin101
 
Thanks!
 
@zyabin101 It is
 
@quartata I have a function with multiple inputs and one output, and I want to optimise for the highest output.
Plz halp! :-)
@DJMcMayhem Congratulations! Moar stars 4 U!
 
5:00 PM
@wizzwizz4 Do you have a loss function in mind?
What's the NN for exactly?
 
@quartata Erm... I'm not sure.
@quartata Optimising aerofoil shapes in a flight simulator.
I'm trying to use FANN, but I don't know how to make it optimise for a highest value.
 
I haven't used it but if you're using a library it should handle backpropagation for you.
 
At the moment it's just predicting.
 
You just need to pick the loss function
So what is the output exactly?
 
@quartata The input is variables determining the wing shape, and the output is the amount of lift. I want to optimise for maximum lift.
@quartata What does a loss function do though?
 
5:03 PM
So the loss function is essentially a way of measuring error, or how far off the network was from what it should have output
The idea in training then is to simply adjust weights to minimize the loss
 
@quartata ... I think that's solved the problem.
 
?
 
@quartata I now know where to start. Thanks! :-)
 
All right.
I'm still not sure I quite get what you're trying to do with the NN though
If you're calculating lift surely there's a simple model or equation for that. You don't need to approximate
 
@quartata I'm not calculating lift. The flight simulator's doing that.
I'm optimising a wing design for highest lift.
(And I can't find the loss function in FANN...)
 
5:06 PM
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@TùxCräftîñg bbbbbaaaaaccccckkkkk?
 
A NN doesn't sound like the right tool for that
 
i was AFK
 
You want a genetic algorithm with traits corresponding to the various shape features
 
@quartata Do you know a googleable acronym?
That's what I used to find FANN
 
5:07 PM
Just google "Genetic algorithm." You'll find oodles of stuff.
 
@quartata I didn't originally think it was, but I thought I was getting somewhere. I was wrong.
 
They're fairly simple.
 
@quartata I'll try that.
 
The hard part is designing the traits
 
I've read the Wikipedia article on Genetic Algorithms before, but I'll read it again.
 
5:09 PM
I can break it down for you if you want
 
@wizzwizz4 you're back! :D
 
@zyabin101 From where?
 
I met @RenderSettings with such surprise before...
These were good times, but now they largely disappeared and are lurking...
 
If you mean my Great Mod Adventure™, I've been back for a while.
A few days, I think. Maybe a week.
 
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A: Python BeautifulSoup does not print()

TùxCräftîñgYour problem is that return bsObj prevent the function to execute the prints. The only thing your function can print is a HTTPError or an ArgumentError. If you want to return bsObj, you need it to return it at the end of the function, because return exit the function. from urllib.request impo...

 
5:11 PM
Genetic algorithms are exactly what I was looking for. Thank you @quartata!
I'll run it several times with different random start values to get a few different designs.
 
No problem. Let me know if you get a good result, it sounds like an interesting problem.
 
@wizzwizz4 idk lemme check in the Nineteenth Byte Data Explorer©®™ by Starman Innovations Inc.
 
I didn't know it was incorporated
 
That's one good thing that El'endia Starman developed while you were away. :3
 
@zyabin101 You mean the The Nineteenth Byte Data Explorer®, © 2016 Starman Innovations Inc.
 
5:14 PM
^
column "wizzwizz4" does not exist
LINE 4: WHERE name = "wizzwizz4"
                     ^
SQL, u wot m8
 
@zyabin101 SQL is hard.
Try 'wizzwizz4'.
 
s/(hard)/really $&/
 
Query is running, however not running.
 
@TùxCräftîñg for(;;)s.apply(s/(hard)/really $&/);
@zyabin101 Schrödinger's Query?
 
Now it's running. :3
 
5:19 PM
@El'endiaStarman Just noticed one of your new queries
The results are not good
 
Oh the irony
 
most common first characters (yay, I'm learning SQL!)
 
ಠ is more common than some letters. I don't know how I feel about that
 
5:27 PM
↑↑
 
I know how I feel about it.
 
@Fatalize ಠ
 
@Dennis Could you please pull Brachylog? I fixed 1 being recognized as a prime -.-
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but... 1 is a prime, no?
 
1 is a prime example of a nonprime.
 
5:29 PM
1 or not 1?
 
what messages do you moved?
y trashcan is give a 403?
 
@TùxCräftîñg It's mod only. ;p
 
^^ well 1 is not a prime
 
@TùxCräftîñg I moved that stupid, three-hour-long debate about 1's primality.
 
5:35 PM
@wizzwizz4 Wai?
You just wasted 623 possibly helpful messages!
 
@zyabin101 Because it was long.
 
Then put it in a thematic room, but not just Trashcan!
 
@zyabin101 They aren't wasted! They're still there. Gimme a sec, I'll link them to you.
@zyabin101 Ok. If you create a room I'll put them there.
But I don't think it's worth it.
 
Nice!
 
What? 623? How is that even possible?
I feel like I just missed something
 
5:38 PM
I suspect we are lucky to have missed it...
 
@wizzwizz4 voici:
 
@DJMcMayhem Probably the edit symbol.
 
@trichoplax there's no way 623 messages were posted in two minutes
Dammit stupid mobile doesn't show the edit symbol
 
@wizzwizz4 Bah, you just renamed the trashcan to "The Primality Debate".
 
5:40 PM
And the 1 to a 623 ;)
 
Move the messages in the room I linked.
 
10/10 very constructive room
@trichoplax Please be my proof that I have moved them all into the room by checking chat.
 
I read through the entire debate and I wish I hadn't
 
*trash
4 mins ago, by wizzwizz4
Here's the link: http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/658/conversation/the-primality-debate
So much message.
 
Indeed
 
5:44 PM
... there wasn't any debate
 
@quartata I'm not sure that "new" is the right descriptor given that that query was one of the first... :P
 
It was meant to be a one-off funny quip, but the @zyabin101 wanted to see the messages...
 
5:55 PM
@DJMcMayhem I'm not sure what the word is for a debate with only one participant...
 
onebate?
 
A master debate?
 
hmm chat just went down for me
 
The questions' wave functions just haven't collapsed yet
 
5:57 PM
All of his posts are both questions and answers until you observe them.
 
Wow. Dual answers to that. Nice.
But which one is the real explanation....?
 
irb(main):001:0> (Kernel.rand < 0.5 ? "trichoplax" : "TimmyD") + "'s one"
=> "trichoplax's one"
 
I always did have a knack for games of pure chance
 
Huh. Odd. That's not what I get when I run it.
 
Works on my box
@Geobits must be doing something wrong on your end
 
6:02 PM
((true and 0.4 or Kernel.rand) < 0.5 ? "trichoplax" : "TimmyD") + "'s one"
^ always work
 
@Poke What? No, I ran it twice just to make sure :(
 
>>> "Trichoplax' one? " + chance.bool()
"Trichoplax' one? false"
TimmyD's one, then.
 
@Geobits How are you running it?
 
what is your ruby version?
 
Like this:
irb(main):001:0> (Kernel.rand < 0.5 ? "trichoplax" : "TimmyD") + "'s one"
=> "TimmyD's one"
 
6:13 PM
I see the problem.
 
@Geobits ^^^^
 
@Geobits Should be
irb(main):001:0> (Kernel.rand < 1 ? "trichoplax" : "TimmyD") + "'s one"
=> "trichoplax's one"
 
@TùxCräftîñg Hmm. Looks like 1.9.3
 
ah,, it's the problem
you should use ruby 2
 
I had to change versions for a koth entry some time ago. Thanks for clearing that up! :P
 
6:17 PM
gtg
 
Anyone want to play Space Trader? :3
 
@zyabin101 What's Space Trader?
Oh, you mean
Space Trader is a video game by the Canadian developer HermitWorks, for Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X released on July 25, 2007. After the game was open-sourced in 2008, an iOS version followed in 2009. == Plot == == Gameplay == Space Trader is a combination first person action and trading game with co-operative multiplayer, tied together with online scoreboards. Players assume the role of Traders in a fictitious future universe. Their goal: to make as much money possible within a time limit. They accomplish this by leasing cargo ships, traveling to planets and trading with Merchants. ...
?
 
@wizzwizz4 ...so the conversation that had just started when I left... kept going for another hour? O_o
 
@ETHproductions See:
 
@wizzwizz4 Nope, I mean the one for Palm.
 
6:24 PM
back
 
Space Trader is a strategy game for Palm OS and Windows Mobile PDAs. It was released in 2002 by Pieter Spronck, a scientist at Tilburg University, and was inspired by David J. Webb's PalmPilot game SolarWars (which in turn was based on Matt Lee's popular Palm game Dope Wars) and the 1980s classic 3D strategy game Elite (though it does not have Elite's 3D flight mode). The game is free software under the GNU General Public License. Space Trader for Palm OS centers on buying and selling ten commodities in various star systems around the galaxy. The player has one of several types of spacecraft, and...
 
@zyabin101 Any FOSS ports?
 
@wizzwizz4 Space Trader for Palm OS is FOSS.
But I can conduct a game via chat.
 
Ok. We'll need a room.
BRB.
 
@wizzwizz4 ^
and don't even mention the two illegal commodities. cough
 
6:31 PM
back
 
YOU WIN, NEW MAIN POSTS...
#totalninja
 
A while back had a bot, I've made some big improvements, talk to it here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/45813/bald-bot
 
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Q: ASCII Odd/Even Cipher

TimmyDWe'll define the ASCII Odd/Even Cipher via the below pseudocode: Define 'neighbor' as the characters adjacent to the current letter in the string If the one of the neighbors is out of bounds of the string, treat it as \0 or null Take an input string For each letter in the string, do If the ...

 
@NewMainPosts ninja'd
 
@MartinEnder Waffles for that.
 
6:37 PM
gtg
 
Can anyone recommend an alternative to Evernote? I mostly use it to jot down ideas for esolangs or other programming projects.
 
@zyabin101 you clearly can't reveal it in full
It's Orson Raphael Lennard Peters
not Or. L. P.
 
So you have four words in the name? Interesting...
 
one given name
two middle names
(also given)
and one surname
 
Myself, my surname, given name and patronymic name give tree.
 
6:45 PM
if I marry some girl
it'll be
Orson Raphael Lennard Peters-Hotbabez
 
^ delusional
 
Five words? :D
 
@MartinEnder bullet journel
 
@orlp Hotbabez is a very common Dutch surname for girls, I've heard.
 
@MartinEnder Is it bad that I just say "email" as the answer?
 
6:47 PM
@MartinEnder yes mr. ender man
 
@BaldBantha this looks neat, but I'd prefer something digital (and syncable) just so that I can keep and check notes wherever I am without having to think about taking a physical notebook with me.
 
@MartinEnder I just use vim and a text file
 
@Fatalize Done.
 
Thanks!
 
@MartinEnder simplenote.com
 
6:58 PM
@zyabin101 Thanks. It currently looks like it's between that and Google Keep.
 
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