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12:14 AM
I just made an answer on Stackoverflow that gained 6 upvotes within... a short amount of time. That is the most upvotes ever, on par with one other answer, but it gained them much faster. Who would have thought that such a little answer would increase my rep by 75 points so fast?
 
Make that 7 upvotes; it's a good answer. To the point, with alternate implementations.
 
Wow. I want to congratulate this user for being the only user with the electorate badge. He participated on this site only by voting, not answering / asking once.
@Geobits This is why I feel guilty sharing stuff like this on chat; it feels like farming upvotes.
@Geobits A much better answer would source-code-dive and explain why the regex is slower. After diving down into Pattern, I got tired of analyzing code.
 
Nah, it really is a good answer. Besides, it can go the other way, too. I've got plenty of downvotes to my name.
My highest voted answer on SO isn't even of any practical use to anyone. The vagaries of voting are odd indeed.
 
 
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2:13 AM
Bot killed manually.
 
2:56 AM
Ummmm, no it wasn't
 
dun dun dunnnnn
 
 
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4:38 PM
Man it is freaking hard to get rep on Stack Board and Card Games
 
@Rusher Because the questions are difficult, or because nobody votes?
 
4:50 PM
@ProgramFOX You have to add a giant disclaimer at the bottom of every single question that says "I promise I am here to have fun. I only want to know the rules better, not throw them in my opponent's face. That is all." And even then, you get comments like "That disclaimer was unnecessary."
It's really frustrating trying to extract the deeper details of how to properly communicate in Magic: The Gathering without pissing off the site's community.
 
@Rusher Why is a disclaimer necessary?
 
@ProgramFOX Because they assume that the more detailed rules questions I ask there are somehow related to me proving someone else wrong. It has something to do with the way I write, as one of them pointed out. To be honest, I have never gone back to an opponent and said "Hah! I knew I was right!"
It's hard to explain if you don't ask a question there often, because the culture here is "Destroy all ambiguities on sight." On B&C Games, pointing out ambiguities is apparently "not in the spirit of having fun".
Anyway.... lunch time :)
 
@Rusher I get your point. It should be annoying if people think that you ask a question just to prove someone else wrong.
 
5:08 PM
Besides, other than the smug-factor, I don't see anything intrinsically bad with proving someone else wrong. It just increases good knowledge out there and decreases ignorance
As long as its done in a non-arrogant way, of course ;-)
 
5:53 PM
benueq <= Mindblowing.
 
benueq is less than or equal to Mindblowing
 
You forgot the period
 
5. = 5
So
Mindblowing. = Mindblowing
 
I don't think String comparisons work like that
 
If we are in base (I don't want to count)
certainly len(benueq) <= len(Mindblowing)
This implies
benueq <= Mindblowing
in most number systems.
(I want to say all, but then someone will come up with a counterexample)
Ignoring capitalization (in base 26):
benueq = 26308039 base 10
mindblowing = 1.88699425042285e+15 base 10
assuming a=1,b=2,c=3,...,z=26
 
6:00 PM
Wait a second. The e isn't flipped. My mind is unblown.
benuaq looks a little closer
 
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¿sıɥʇ ǝʞıן pǝʇʇɐɥɔ sʎɐʍןɐ ʇsnɾ ı ɟı ǝq ʇı pןnoʍ ƃuıʎouuɐ ʍoɥ
 
˙uʍop ǝpısdn ʇxǝʇ ƃuıʇɐʇoɹ ǝɯıʇ ƃuıʇsɐʍ ǝɹɐ xunɔuınb puɐ ɹǝɥsnɹ
˙spɹɐʍʞɔɐq pɐǝɹ oʇ uɹɐǝן oʇ pǝǝu ǝןdoǝd ˙pooƃ ǝq pןnoʍ ʇı ɹǝɥsnɹ@
 
6:12 PM
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Yeah, the text flipper isn't very good.
I meant read upside down.
When I sing familiar songs, I turn the book upside down.
 
That new post makes me twitch
 
I get to read music upside down, with words.
 
If the challenge was the exact opposite - take all inline styles and put them in a consolidated CSS, then I'd be a lot happier about it
 
This user is impressive: ǝɯ-sɐuıʌpǝ/09981/sɹǝsn/ɯoɔ˙ǝƃuɐɥɔxǝʞɔɐʇs˙ɟןoƃǝpoɔ//:dʇʇɥ. The only user with the electorate badge. Also only votes, no answers/questions.
 
6:16 PM
He just serially voted on a bunch of questions probably without even considering how useful they were or whether they even applied to him.
 
All votes are upvotes :(
 
:(
 
How do you see what he voted? Do you need high rep for that?
 
Now that I looked closer, I noticed that every site has electorate, except his newest site.
 
I fail to see how being able to click a button is "impressive"
 
6:18 PM
@undergroundmonorail I don't think so, but not sure. At the bottom of the summary tab.
 
@Doorknob I was impressed because I thought he found that many places where the votes are applicable. It seems I was wrong
 
@under You can't
 
@undergroundmonorail If you meant what actual posts he voted on, then you can't.
 
@Geobits Oh, okay. I didn't see that. I thought you guys were able to see specifically what he had voted on and was thinking "Don't they have specific measures in place to make that not possible?"
 
Member for 39 days, 770 upvotes cast, no other participation it seems. That's just... strange.
 
6:23 PM
I'm writing a control program for a KOTH challenge I want to run (when there isn't one going on, I don't plan on stealing anyone's thunder :P) and I made a lot of progress today. I thought "Phew, almost done!" before I remembered typing "//TODO: The vast majority of the functionality" earlier...
 
Cool, what kind of challenge?
 
So everyone, since one of our main problems is not having enough questions posted per day, do you think it might be a good idea to get official SE sanction for some kind of promotion related to posting good challenges?
 
@Doorknob Get everyone to upvote them more than the lousy ones?
Don't know how to do that though
 
Kind of like the 1P5 thing that happened earlier
 
6:25 PM
The majority of the votes come from new users, and they upvote easy questions a lot, while hard but very good challenges sit in the dark.
 
@Quincunx No, something like the user who posts the best question during the promotion gets some reward
Definitely not by upvotes though -_-
 
How do you plan do define best then?
 
That's the thing that I have no idea about yet :-P
 
Maybe get some nominees and then have a thread in meta, with upvotes happening there? In my (admittedly limited) experience the people in meta tend to have a better idea of what's good for the site.
 
@undergroundmonorail Mafia looks interesting, but it seems the "normal" version is more about reading body language than anything else. I'm assuming there's a more "computery" version you're using? Looking forward to it :)
 
6:31 PM
Also, we've been falling behind in the C(G/R) wars lately :(
 
@Doorknob What do C, G, and R stand for?
 
@Geobits As a party game, reading body language and stuff is a large part of it, but sites like EpicMafia and forums that play it as a forum game use pretty much identical rulesets. Removing the ability to read body language and adding the ability to perfectly remember everything by scrolling up inherently makes the game a lot more about "analysis" than just reading people, so I feel like it could be a good fit.
@Rusher Code(Golf/Review)
 
Am I understanding that as the function Code() with an argument of Golf divided by Review?
And we are at war with this function?
 
@Rusher Code {Golf,Review} :P
 
@undergroundmonorail Ah, that makes sense. I hadn't thought about it that way.
 
6:35 PM
Obviously this is way above my head because I have no idea how to translate your notation into an English sentence
WAIT!
 
Lol, short for "code golf / code review" war :-P
 
I think it should now be known as "The War on Code Golf", to dramatize the situation and make us feel like the innocent victims. Then as we rally to the fight, we are freedom fighters, not rivals.
 
@Doorknob NOOOOOO I said WAIT in all caps! That means wait and let me explain that I am not a moron and that I got it!
 
CGR war :-D
@Rusher Heh, sorry, I'm on my phone now and chatting is difficult :-P
 
...Hm, turns out {Thing,Otherthing} doesn't actually do what I thought it did.
 
6:37 PM
@Geo TWoCG! :-D
 
Ok. Now that I am in the loop, why are we at war? Did they slight our great community?
 
I think it's just that they're at a similar stage in their development as an SE site and humans desire competition.
 
The war of "who can get out of beta first" :-P
We have a... long and difficult history
Let me find that one meta post...
24
Q: The race has started. Are you running?

Mat's MugPCG.SE is going on a mission. And so the race begins. For Code Review!! -- syb0rg 2 days ago Let's see: Programming Puzzles and Code Golf Voting & Activity PCG.SE Voting and Activity Chart Compare to: Code Review Voting & Activity CR.SE Voting and Activity Chart ...

Trivia: the original title was going to be "This means WAR!"
:-D
So anyway, we need some way to get more questions per day.
 
His stats don't make any sense without proper labels.
I mean, they achieved 133% of a goal, but I have no idea what the goal is was because it just says "20k - 4/3"
 
The goal was 3 20ks and they have 4
 
6:45 PM
I have a problem of not voting on questions that lose my interest before I can read and comprehend the entire post
HAHAHAHA!!! Someone wrote a Wolf that throws this exception when you instantiate more than one of them: throw new InstantiationException("There can only be one!"); codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/25866/18487
 
I vote a decent amount, but half of them don't contribute to higher rep scores for anyone.
 
I seriously can't believe I'm setting up a chat system for these bots. Honestly. I've rationalized it enough to myself to actually do it but it still seems nuts.
I mean, all that's really happening is there are some integers getting thrown around and the humans who write the bots know what each one means (I don't plan on making anyone parse English, I don't think that Watson, King of Jeopardy is going to show up) but it still seems so weird that I'm writing a chat room for programs.
 
Has anyone seen Snowpiercer? rottentomatoes.com/m/snowpiercer
 
Great. He's building Skynet.
 
6:53 PM
@Geobits A third of them do have an active desire to kill... Hm...
@Rusher I haven't.
 
Can the two who voted on codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/25871/18487 comment on the question to explain why a programming challenge belongs on Stack Overflow?
Also, we need to have a discussion about the line between "A programming question turned into a challenge" and "A programming challenge"
Oh man I killed the mood. Carry on.
 
@Rusher I was wondering about those votes. That one was even sandboxed for over a week with nobody thinking it just looked like a "general programming question".
 
7:10 PM
I'd argue that any challenge involving programming is a general programming question. That close reason should be used for question like "How can I accomplish this?" or "I tried this, but it didn't work. What did I do wrong?"
Or, everything should be closed and we should merge with SO.
I think two people are pulling a "smells like homework" vote. As usual, they won't speak up until the user incriminates himself. Then they'll come back to the chat and say, "Look, I knew it was homework all along."
 
7:42 PM
Is it weird to purposefully skip an entire season of your favorite show just so you can binge watch it after the season ends? (hint Game of Thrones)
 
7:56 PM
Not really. I sorta did it with Season 2. By the time I realized it, I'd missed half the season, so didn't watch any of it until it was over.
That being said, the first couple episodes this season are pretty good :p
Then again, I do most of my series-watching in binges rather than live, so it doesn't seem weird at all to me.
 
My partner wanted to watch it last night. I wanted to play Diablo 3, but I play so much that I had to come up with an alternate excuse like "I prefer binge watching."
 
Oh. As excuses go, that's a pretty lame one(IMO). I wouldn't think you were weird, just that you came up with a bad excuse to keep playing Diablo :)
 
@Rusher That could be an interesting problem too. The problem of inlining styles is something which does have practical application: I've actually written code to do it for automated e-mail sending because a lot of e-mail clients only support inline CSS, although I did it by gluing together some libraries rather than writing the lot by hand.
This challenge is a cut-down version which is too simple to be any real use in a production environment (even not taking into account the general inappropriateness of golfed code in prod), but has enough meat that it should be fairly interesting to tackle.
 
8:29 PM
@PeterTaylor I assumed that inlining CSS styles was part of the compilation of any web project. Do web browsers actually look at a CSS? I'm not clear on much HTML or CSS stuff
 
9:05 PM
There are lots of good reasons for not inlining CSS (it's simpler not to; by factoring out the common styles you reduce your traffic; by allowing the separate CSS files to be cached you reduce it even more), and only one for inlining it (the user agent won't support separate CSS files). That one is only really relevant for HTML e-mails and for supporting old versions of IE, and I don't think many people are quite so fanatical about supporting old versions of IE.
 
9:59 PM
(The bot is borked and I'm trying to fix it)
 
The nerve of this girl on Overflow... stackoverflow.com/a/23093278/3224483
 
-1 for dumping code without explanation - "copy and paste this" isn't going to help the OP — Doorknob 5 secs ago
-_-
 
There are two such answers. But she said Thank you to one of them and called me rude.
 
:(
 
Oh well. It's 5:00. No time to give a shit. By the way, is profanity disallowed or discouraged here?
I figured if it were, there would be a filter
But you never know
 
10:08 PM
It's occasionally tossed around in here and nobody seems to care. But it depends on which chatroom you're in - some will murder you for a hint of profanity and some throw f-bombs around all the time (ahem Lounge<C++> ahem)
 
Even if it is (I don't think the issue has come up much), there are a few pedants around who would argue that scatological terms aren't profanity. ;)
 
10:21 PM
I hate when I think of something that might save bytes, try it, and find out that it's exactly the same number of bytes
I thought I might be able to strip off a byte or two from my answer to Doorknob's recent question by doing c=count at the beginning and then doing s.c instead of s.count, but because I do that twice, saving 4 bytes from each time is 8 bytes saved: Exactly what it costs to do c=count.
 

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