The Nineteenth Byte

What even is that

Calvin's Hobbies

giant whisk

Seems like it would be difficult to operate in a way that's a scaled up version of how you'd operate a normal whisk.

(if that makes any sense)

By the way @AlexA., my CPU is currently at 133 C while Skyping, whereas the GPU is at 77 C. My computer crashes when the GPU gets to and stays at 90 C.

Interesting

There must be significant insulation to keep the CPU and GPU heat from equalizing.

5:20 AM

@AlexA. A few things, I think. 1) heat sinks, 2) other plastic and stuff in the way, 3) distance.

Oh, okay. That makes sense.

iPage claimed they auto-renewed my domain and hosting for 2 years and billed me for it, but my domain no longer works, nor does email or FTP. ಠ_ಠ

Since FTP no longer works, I had to use their horrid "FileManager" to manually download all subdirectories (with the help of a few JS scripts).

Now I sent them a support ticket to cancel my account and transfer my domain to somewhere not-horrible...

So your website is down until further notice?

That's too bad. I set it as my homepage.

2

hahaha

> This domain maybe for sale! Buy it now! Click Here

5:28 AM

clicks there

buys it

absorbs Doorknob's power

I plan to ditch the web hosting aspect entirely and just host via Github Pages, anyway.

@Dennis haha, yeah, I tried that. Turns out "maybe" means "isn't." ಠ_ಠ

You have the option to place a minimum bid of $69 as a backorder order though. Or to pay $10 so they'd negotiate with the owner, whatever that means.

grabs credit card

negotiates with myself

No, you pay somebody to negotiate with you, so you can buy your domain. From you. It's an investment, really.

You can pay me to make you a sandwich and mail it to you. Terms and conditions apply.

5:35 AM

Does your service require the root password?

No, just sandwich money.

And a social security number. >_>

For sandwich security

I don't even think you were talking to me

haha

I was; I was just making a bad xkcd reference :P

FYI: you can right-click on YouTube videos and select "loop" to make it repeat endlessly.

Now I can rickroll myself forever

\o/

5:39 AM

Rick Astley until the end of time

The party never stops

^ legitimately not a rick roll

Sure...

You have my word

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I don't have great confidence in your word.

;-;

wtaf

5:44 AM

I'll give you a hint: It's a cat in a Pop-Tart pooping a rainbow while flying through space.

I have a feeling my daughter would like that. She starts meowing every time she sees a cat (picture).

What, the picture or the song I linked to?

The YouTube thingie. I haven't heard it though. My sound is usually turned off.

Are you not familiar with Nyan Cat?

Nyan Cat

Nyan Cat is the name of a YouTube video, uploaded in April 2011, which became an Internet meme. The video merged a Japanese pop song with an animated cartoon cat with the body of a Pop-Tart, flying through space, and leaving a rainbow trail behind it. The video ranked at number 5 on the list of most viewed YouTube videos in 2011. == OriginEdit == === Animated GIFEdit === On April 2, 2011, the GIF animation of the cat was posted by 25-year-old Christopher Torres of Dallas, Texas, who uses the name "prguitarman", on his website LOL-Comics. Torres explained in an interview where the idea f...

I am not, and I don't want to be.

5:47 AM

That's too bad. I was going to set Nyan Cat 10 Hours HD 1080p as my homepage since Doorknob's website is down.

Hey, whatever you do on your computer is not my business.

Sp3000

[SDVX II] Nyan Cat INF

►

If you want a rainbow-pooping kitty, go for it.

Sp3000

Obligatory appearance in my favourite rhythm game

That game looks crazy hard

Also thank you, I was stuck in 10 hour Nyan Cat hell and you broke me free with the promise of something else.

@El'endiaStarman FWIW, it actually isn't a rickroll. It's Nyan Cat.

Another outdated meme. :P

5:51 AM

I guessed after you posted Nyan Cat in chat. :P

Listening to Leucte Auf, Borussia though. :P

It's a German hymn about a soccer team. :P

A hymn about a soccer team? o_O

Leuchte?

Immediate Music - Leuchte Auf Mein Stern Borussia (BVB Hymn - Epic Version)

But I love how it sounds, and I'm seriously considering making an effort to learn German.

►

Basically, "Shine On, Borussia". Borussia is the name of the team.

Leuchte Auf Mein Stern Borussia is "Shine On, Our Star Borussia".

Lyrics.

translate: Lechte Auf Mein Sterm Borussia

(from German) Manas Ranjan on my STerm Borussia

Bing seems to disagree.

Mispelled it. But anyway, I used Google Translate.

5:54 AM

translate: Leuchte Auf Mein Sterm Borussia

(from German) Lamp on my STerm Borussia

Hahaha

A little closer

translate: Leuchte Auf Mein Stern Borussia

(from German) Lamp on my star Borussia

Google Translate actually says "Light on my star Borussia".

Spelling matters...

It does?

translate: Sterm

(from English) Sterm

5:55 AM

So "shine on" is the correct English translation; that's the idiom in English.

See, I don't know German. Fixing... :P

I can't really recommend it...

Also, I did plop in "our" instead of "my" because I figured that sports fans singing a hymn together would be more likely to say "our"...

@Dennis Do you prefer Spanish to German in general?

I'll bet he does considering he's a native Spanish speaker (I think). :P

@El'endiaStarman Seems reasonable

@El'endiaStarman Nope

Native German speaker

Get your Dennis facts straight, gosh!

:P

5:58 AM

haha

...for a moment there, I thought you were being serious. I shan't make that mistake again. :P

He is. I'm German.

Born and raised.

...not sure if conspiring with Alex...

Aug 13 '15 at 21:56, by Dennis

Ein Landsmann!

If you're not the one in South America, with slow and pricey internet, who is, then? :P

5:59 AM

He is in South America

And has slow and pricey internet

Can't I both be German and live in South America?

And type very fluent American English

Possible but unlikely.

Statistically, few people make such a move.

Aug 13 '15 at 21:57, by Dennis

I live in South America, but I was born and raised in Germany.

[sigh]

Rly.

6:00 AM

The conspiracy goes far back.

This is like that time I said to a friend on Facebook "But you're not British!" only to find out that he was, indeed, born and raised in Britain.

XD

haha

I honestly had no idea...

It happens ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

6:02 AM

Well, anyway, I am somewhat interested in learning German. I started thinking about it after I saw a video of a worship song being sung in a dozen languages, one of which was German, which I understood. Like, my familiarity with the song helped, but so did the shared history of German and English.

Luckily, German is one of those languages with a lot of learning materials available in English (and in general).

My only concern is commitment/dedication.

Yeah. Learning a language is tough without it.

And plus the lack of German-speaking friends. :P

Though I'm not particularly set on learning spoken German.

Are you familiar with Duolingo?

6:05 AM

I have an account, actually, and will probably start by using it.

Nice :)

I did, however, also read an article by a guy who also helps people learn German, and he had some criticisms of the system.

Do you have a link to the article? I'd be interested to read it. I've only used Duolingo very briefly a long time ago.

Stuff like: the sentences provided for translation are basically random, it's a computer speaking the sentences, in some cases the tasks are too easy, that sort of thing.

Oh, okay.

6:07 AM

@AlexA. Link.

So, what I'm thinking is that I can just find worship songs I know, but in German, and listen to those repeatedly.

Speaking of languages, Julia sure is golfy for a non-golfing language.

It certainly can be, yeah!

@El'endiaStarman Thanks!

13 mins ago, by Alex A.

@Dennis Do you prefer Spanish to German in general?

@Dennis: ^ What do you like about Spanish, English, and German?

@AlexA. A port of my Python answer saved 12 bytes, despite the infuriating refusal to interpret integers as Booleans.

It's only infuriating for golfing. It makes sense in terms of an actual language. :P

6:12 AM

@El'endiaStarman I like that Spanish makes sense. There are very few exceptions to general rules. For example, if you see a written word, you already know how it's pronounced.

German is worse in that regard. And English... well...

Is German worse than English with that?

Pronunciation? No, not even close.

Remember: English is essentially a conglomeration of all the languages. :P

It has its own pitfalls though, like the different tenses of verbs.

I remember an English class in middle school where we were told we would be quizzed on foreign language words.

Examples: autobahn, teriyaki, tsunami, etc...

6:14 AM

@Dennis Which, German or Spanish?

German.

@El'endiaStarman ಠ_ಠ

Declension isn't much better.

Granted, teriyaki and tsunami are pretty ubiquitous in (at least American) English.

@Dennis I don't know what that word means

Kindergarten

German declension

German declension is the paradigm that German uses to define all the ways articles, adjectives and sometimes nouns can change their form to reflect their role in the sentence: subject, object, etc. Declension allows speakers to mark a difference between subjects, direct objects, indirect objects and possessives by changing the form of the word—and/or its associated article—instead of indicating this meaning through word order or prepositions (e.g. English, Spanish, French). As a result, German can take a much more fluid approach to word order without the meaning being obscured. In English, a simple...

6:17 AM

I think man/men and woman/women count as a rare example of declension in English.

No, that's just plural.

hmm

Trying to think of one...

The possessive 's is a form of Genitiv.

Goose/geese? No, that's plural too.

Light/lit? Smite/smote?

he/his/him would be an example.

6:19 AM

Hmm, yeah.

Were/was is another example?

No, it applies to nouns, not verbs.

right

A/an are articles. Do those count?

Articles can be declensed, but that's not the case here.

[nods]

who/whom/whose would be another example.

6:22 AM

So, it seems like it's only pronouns that declensed in English.

I think that's true.

And there really is no good reason to declense nouns. It only serves to make the language more difficult.

To learn, that is. It comes naturally to a native speaker.

Also, how did you end up in South America with fluency in English along the way? :P

Basically everything is natural for a native speaker.

English is part of the standard education in Germany. I'm still convinced that the internet helped me more than the classes though.

Also, I exclusively watch TV in English.

You don't watch any Spanish TV?

Nope.

6:25 AM

How often do you speak English rather than write it?

@Dennis Hah, yeah, one of my fellow mods moved to Turkey permanently and maintains his English fluency via the Internet.

@AlexA. Pretty much never.

@AlexA. Local shows are either bad or very bad. And translated movies/TV shows... it was bearable in Germany, because German and English are similar enough so that a good dubbing is possible and because I didn't know there was something better. Many good actors lose part of their spark in the dubbing though.

6:51 AM

> In German, all nouns are capitalized.

... that's why there was a bunch of funky capitalization!

In the lyrics, that is.

> funky

Is Kind (child) pronounced like the English kind or Kindle?

Geobits

I've always heard it like kindle

Kindle (assuming that I pronounce Kindle correctly).

You probably did.

6:56 AM

Definitely not like the English kind.

Whee I guessed right! :P

Funny, the to be verb is irregular in like every language ever.

It is.

It's irregular in English, Spanish, Portuguese, and German, that I know of.

Debatable whether it's in true ASL (not the PSE that I sign - a mix of ASL signs and English grammar). :P

Add Italian to your list.

Well, Spanish and Italian have two verbs that translate as to be, but one of them is irregular in each.

Almost certainly irregular in any Romance language derivative.

Chinese and Japanese, I'm curious about.

By the way, funnily enough, Portuguese Spanish sounds like Congolese French in that both sound African. :P

> In German, there's no continuous aspect, i.e. there are no separate forms for "I drink" and "I am drinking". There's only one form: Ich trinke.

7:06 AM

I think "to be" is irregular in Japanese

@Dennis: Which of these English tenses does German not have?

I think Dennis has left the building (i.e. gone to bed)

Me too. Good night!

G'night!

I like the fanfare sound at completing a lesson on Duolingo. :P

Optimizer

7:34 AM

> PG Log: Day 2: Another day passed without any sign of graduation. It looks like a dream now.

7:50 AM

translate: Du schenckst mir

(from German) You schenckst me

Yeah, Google Translate didn't know either.

@Dennis: ^ correct translation? I think it's something like "You show me".

8:02 AM

@El'endiaStarman No. "schenckst" does not exist. You mean "schenkst". "Du schenkst mir" means "You give me a present".

9:10 AM

I found an anagram of Banach-Tarski!

It's Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski.

Neil

9:53 AM

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A: Do good math jokes exist?

I've always thought that "What's the value of a contour integral around Western Europe?" "Zero. All the Poles are in Eastern Europe." was pretty good, although not laugh-out-loud funny by any means. Another one I personally like is "What's an anagram of Banach-Tarski?" "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tars...

1:20 PM

@orlp I would have starred it if the joke had been in a single message.

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That'll require another program, this one supporting arbitrary-sized multiplication by 2.

@El'endiaStarman We don't have separate "simple" and "continuous" tenses (so no "I am going..."... only "I go"). So we essentially have half as many tenses (there's past, present, two perfects and two futures as well).

The other main difference is that the past tense is essentially unused in speech and only used for writing (and even then only for things like telling stories... you wouldn't even use past tense in a letter... it sounds really archaic in German).

2:39 PM

@AlexA. Same with Meta SE (which kinda annoys me because it means the Tavern on Meta doesn't show up in the current rooms sidebar if I'm here)

3:13 PM

@MartinBüttner Do you mean simple past or past tense in general?

past tense as opposed to perfect tense

3:38 PM

I love how youtube never stopped trolling numberphile.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

4:06 PM

@El'endiaStarman are you going to submit that CA sequence to OEIS? :)

New Sandboxed Posts

4:23 PM

0

How's PPCG doing? code-golf internet parsing As some of you may know, we recently hit 10 questions per day, a big milestone for PPCG. To celebrate this, here's a simple challenge. Challenge Write a program that retrieves our Area 51 stats from http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/4570/cod...

wow that was fast

We've dropped to only 10/day...

I just noticed.

Why?

because people stopped asking questions

Well hopefully this question will bring us back up :P

oh no we're down to 9.9

wtf

It's only been a day...

4:27 PM

D:

Oh today's one of the "every other days" that I have to post a challenge

/me quickly writes one

I'm kinda trying to do a once every 2 days schedule too.

So far I've completely kept up with mine. :P

Hopefully this continues throughout the entire year

By the way thoughts on that challenge

I kinda wasn't sure about the colored output part but I think it makes it more interesting

Every day brings me halfway closer to posting a challenge.

@mınxomaτ zeno?

4:38 PM

Yeah

4:52 PM

@Doorknob it's called weekend

haha @MartinBüttner, that ninja

I was about to post the exact same Pyth answer too

@Doorknob there's an unsorted test case in the challenge

Q: Get the closest value to number

I know; that test case was added after my comment

New Main Posts

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In this code golf, you need to get the closest number from another one in a list. The output may be the closest number to the input. Example: value: (Input) 5 --- [1,2,3] --- 3 And, the program may work with negative numbers. Example: value: (Input) 0 --- [-1,3,5] --- -1 value: (Input) 2...

@Dennis do APL, J, Jelly have a built-in for this?

somebody

5:01 PM

not jelly

i'm pretty sure

Jelly and PL definitely don't. I think J doesn't.

Q: Print the input in hexadecimal

5:26 PM

@Dennis can't seem to get CJam below 14 bytes :/

New Main Posts

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You need to do a program that outputs the input (That is text) in hexadecimal! No, I'm not saying converting decimal to hex! I'm saying converting text to hex. Example: Something : 536f6d657468696e67 Of course, this is code golf, so the shorter code wins!

code-golf hexadecimal

5:40 PM

@mınxomaτ Ahhhh, okay. I got that from a lyric video.

@MartinBüttner Already did. :)

@El'endiaStarman the Python code on OEIS is my outdated code

@ETHproductions Oh, I see.

@orlp OEIS always mangles Python code horribly anyway.

def electron_period(n):
    wire_mask = (1 << n) - 1
    power = lam = 1
    tortoise, hare = 1, 2
    while tortoise != hare:
        if power == lam:
            tortoise = hare
            power *= 2
            lam = 0
        hare = ((hare << 1) ^ (hare >> 1)) & wire_mask
        lam += 1
    return lam

that's the up-to-date code

Honestly, the website sucks. It's so good pretty much purely because it has a vast treasure trove of sequences.

Ah-ha, okay, thanks!

5:43 PM

the formatting is really bad, I agree

let me edit that code a bit

oooooooooh

70 68719476734
78 1099511627774

@El'endiaStarman Submit a complaint?

@mınxomaτ Even better: the actual view count is updated in the description. 3.7 million views as of January 2016. :P

One of the many reasons I use firefox :D

6:03 PM

Oh, geez.

I majorly updated Vitsy.

>.> I rewrote half the code.

>.> About to test it.

>.> Wish me luck.

>.> I'll probably need it.

Roujo

@VoteToClose gl;hf ^^

ty

Lol.

There were 3 classes in the last version.

There are now nine.

And one of them is an exception class. >.>

You're going to have so many errors bruh

Nope. >.> Already broke.

<_<

What happened?

6:10 PM

Lol. I forgot to remove the CLA from the argument ArrayList.

CLA => google => Conjugated Linoleic Acid => type of fatty-acid => java is really weird

Command Line Argument. ಠ_ಠ

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Really? I was beginning to think that Java was a health-freak ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

New Sandboxed Posts

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Make a sentence continuous Let's take the word add as an example. We say the word add is not continuous because the couple ad in the word is formed with letters that are not adjacent in the alphabetical order. We can make add continuous by adding the letters missing between a and d in order, wh...

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ >.> And now I have a 2 hour meeting that no one told me about to go to.

Like, right now.

\o/

6:19 PM

Good job!

So much celebration.

A meeting for what?

Idek.

o_o should you really be going then?

Yeah.

>.> It's probably for church.

6:19 PM

O...kay. Good luck! Don't die, don't do drugs.

Oh, lol.

Alright, I really gotta go. xD

peace out!

.o/ @all

A wild @ninja has appeared.

@El'endiaStarman nice :)

NinjaBearMonkey

6:22 PM

The ninja fights the wild dragon

@NinjaBearMonkey The chatroom explodes, and no one knows what happened.

@El'endiaStarman the OEIS entry could maybe also use an explicit specification of the boundary conditions

@El'endiaStarman have you figured out why these are often 2 less than a power of 2?

Because it's catchy? :3

6:41 PM

@El'endiaStarman Remind me again what each element in grid is? I found a comment in my extension saying grid[y][x] = [ruleNum,state,futureState]. ruleNum is an index, state is 1 or 0, and futureState is...?