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12:00 AM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC waits for big company to sue Minx for slander on TNB
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

milesFastest Cashier in the West You're trying to design an automatic cashier that is able to dispense the correct amount of change in any denominations as quickly as possible. Your goal is to implement a program that accepts a target integer T ≥ 0 which is the amount you're trying to make change for...

 
why, google? whenever I use Tor with you, I get a 403.
 
@mınxomaτ Sure; they'd still have the news via satellite phone or something, just without footage :D
 
@HelkaHomba silly laymen, man!
 
Why are you using Tor anyways? :P
 
12:01 AM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Take a guess...
 
@mınxomaτ DDoS!
 
No.
 
but no CAPCTHA
 
Google has blocked all known proxies. For TOR nodes, they simple 403 them, because it's usually bad traffic. There are only captcha's for unblocked IPs.
10 hours ago, by mınxomaτ
TIL https://www.ecosia.org, a pretty basic search engine, but ad revenue largely goes to reforestation efforts.
Try them
 
@mınxomaτ Well it's not always that way, often changing a new tor circuit fixes it
 
12:03 AM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC That's just a not-yet-known IP.
 
@mınxomaτ nod. DuckDuckGo is my second choice, but the search results aren't great
@mınxomaτ lots of them are unkwnown
403 is after pressing enter
then DENIED.
 
you could use a proxy through tor
and just fill the captcha
 
@Pietu1998 that's what I'm doing...
 
X-Forwarded-For?
 
@Pietu1998 huh? Some random HTTP header?
 
12:05 AM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Some proxies tell the target server who you are with that
 
@Pietu1998 it's Tor. Tor is supposed to be NSA-proof. They wouldn't make such a rookie mistake
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC No, but the proxy used through Tor might report the exit node's IP to the target
 
CMC: What's the largest even number that can only be described as the sum of two primes one way? It appears to be 12, but I don't know if that's proven.
 
@Pietu1998 all Tor proxies are consciously operated as Tor exit nodes.
by volunteers
@mınxomaτ I am looking around your site.
 
BTW: The FSF is hiring.
 
12:07 AM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Yeah, but since Tor exit nodes are blocked you could use a non-Tor open proxy through Tor
 
Hiring what? Lawyers?
 
@Pietu1998 not all, just a few
 
> We are hiring! See our listings for a Senior GNU/Linux Systems Administrator, Copyright and Licensing Associate, and Web Developer.
 
wat
Open source community has lawyers too! Yay FSF!
open source community = anonymous
just in a different dress
 
12:13 AM
Anyone here watch the WAN show?
 
\o/
oh right, when's it starting?
3am but might as well :D
 
@HelkaHomba no, what's it about?
@Pietu1998 change avatar, maybe?
it is a bit obnoxious
 
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Q: Goldbach partitions

DJMcMayhemThe Goldbach Conjecture states that every even number greater than two can be expressed as the sum of two primes. For example, 4 = 2 + 2 6 = 3 + 3 8 = 5 + 3 However, once we get to 10 something interesting happens. Not only can 10 be written as 5 + 5 but it can also be written as 7 + 3 S...

 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC should, but havent found a better one
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Funny tech news show from linustechtips
 
12:17 AM
@HelkaHomba sounds amazing, I'm checking it out
@Pietu1998 mine is the default, but I changed ti a bit for halloween
oh god, apparently the WAN show has idiots too. I thought developers weren't idiots.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC They aren't developers, they're Youtubers. But idiots? Well...
 
@HelkaHomba I mean the comment section
 
Why would you expect viewers to be developers?
 
@feersum because linus tech tips?
 
12:20 AM
More to the point you didn't expect a Youtube comment section to be full of idiots
 
Developers don't need tech tips.
Clueless people need tips.
 
@mınxomaτ ...have you tried hacking the voting machines just for fun? (prepares for long technical/legal answer that I won't understand)
 
No.
 
Because we all have a few old voting machines sitting around in our closet, right?
 
the government messes up all the time
 
12:24 AM
Um.
 
Now I sound like a stupid layman.
 
We don't use voting machines (because it's a stupid idea). And importing one would be money wasted.
 
@mınxomaτ you live in..?
 
Germany
 
@quartata Army hacked. How? SQL Inje... you get the point
 
12:24 AM
I can't even
Words cannot express
 
@mınxomaτ I mean hacking USA voting machines. Because.... Trump
 
OK. Anyways. So tell me how one person enforcing his opinion on everybody is a better solution
 
I tend to not think about Trump and have a good time instead.
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And hacking voting machines fixes that because we obviously vote for the idiots who make pointless pork projects for the army right
 
12:26 AM
> Hacker disclose SQL injection vulnerabilities in dozens of Military, United Nation and Pentagon domains.
Imma be like wathu fack UN?
 
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Q: Generate a random digit!

OliverYour task is to generate a random digit following these steps: First, generate 10 random digits to make a binary number, 50% 0, and 50% 1: 010011001 If it is all zeros, generate a new one. Convert this to decimal: 153 For each digit, write that amount of alternating 0s and 1s (first digit...

 
@mınxomaτ The thumbnail concerns me
 
DEFCON presentations <3
 
12:28 AM
@quartata yeah but then we hear "...by throwing a pebble at it!"
 
@quartata that's fucking amazing
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I know, right?
 
@HelkaHomba >Thirty-one states and the District of Columbia allow internet voting for overseas military and civilians. Alaska allows any Alaskan citizen to do so.
NYT about the attacks. Just for reference, because I didn't know that.
 
They could have done some more interesting things with it though.
They can only really change the timescale, gravity and colors
 
what if turmp wins by hacking the voting machines?
 
12:35 AM
But... he won't because he's too egotistical to think he needs it?
Also not everyone subscribes to conspiracy theories
 
Wait, I thought it was supposed to be Russia that's hackinig the voting machines.
 
@feersum ye, and trump <-> russia
 
@feersum I don't know but who cares. Worst case scenario, he doesn't do anything because the dems fill most of the senate and he doesn't get re-elected. Best case scenario, he gets impeached within a year
 
@quartata he's just doing that on the outside to win votes
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I honestly cannot tell if you're trying to troll
 
12:37 AM
Trump spaceship Russia, you mean, he's an alien?
 
@quartata no, it's just speculation
 
@feersum haha
 
@feersum Clearly it's the lizard people hacking the Internet with their minds. Now where is my tinfoil hat...
 
if words cannot express... english isn't turing complete!
 
english also isn't well-defined in any way
 
12:41 AM
you can spell out a brainfuck program
 
@Bob hi. You never seem to talk here, but are almost always present here
 
Maybe quartata's thoughts are just uncomputable.
 
@feersum What do I mean by what do I mean $$\notin \textsc{Decidable}$$
 
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Q: Print the tetration

Oliver Tetration, represented as a^^b, is repeated exponentation. For example, 2^^3 is 2^2^2, which is 16. Given two numbers a and b, print a^^b. Test cases 1 2 -> 1 2 2 -> 4 5 2 -> 3125 etc. Scientific notation is acceptable. Remember, this is code-golf, so the code with the smallest number o...

 
12:46 AM
MinGW 5.3 is bugging out on me
Code::Blocks doesn't recognise to_string()
I don't know what to do
 
@Qwerp-Derp to_string?
 
@Qwerp-Derp do you believe it works?
 
@Downgoat Yes, it should work
@ASCII-only Yes, in C++11
 
@Qwerp-Derp :/ ok then idk what problem is
 
12:48 AM
@Qwerp-Derp You've #included it, right?
 
#include <string>
Yup
 
You added -std=c++11?
 
@feersum Yup
 
@Qwerp-Derp Using std::to_string right?
 
@ASCII-only Yup
 
12:50 AM
@Qwerp-Derp Can you post the snippet?
 
error: 'to_string' is not a member of 'std'
#include <string>

std::string add(std::string a, std::string b, int carry = 0) {
    if ((a == "") && (b == "")) {
        return std::to_string(carry);
    } else if (a == "") {
        return std::to_string(std::stoi(a) + carry);
    } else if (b == "") {
        return std::to_string(std::stoi(b) + carry);
    }

    if ((std::stoi(a) + std::stoi(b) + carry) > 9) {
        int c = 1;
        int not_c = std::stoi(a) + std::stoi(b) - 10;
    } else {
        int c = 0;
        int not_c = std::stoi(a) + std::stoi(b);
This is a half-finished version of an adder
 
Works for me with the same compiler (and IDE, even).
 
@Qwerp-Derp Oh here, patch maybe
 
But that's for GCC 4.7
I'm running GCC 5.3
Not sure if there's a difference though
 
@Qwerp-Derp Okay, should be fixed by 5.3, what is wrong D:
 
12:53 AM
Try checking your c++11 flag again.
Then try rebooting 4 times.
 
What does it say when compiling
wait this isn't the web
 
;_; y my brethren gotta be so stupid
 
@Downgoat What's that blue thing
 
either general purpose drum or trash can
either way its not good
 
@Downgoat Because goats eat everything
 
12:56 AM
tin cans =/= everything
req'd access to C9
 
@Downgoat Tin cans ⊂ everything
 
:/
 
@Downgoat I think my friend has some of your distant relatives
 
Woo! Element (the programming language) strikes again!
 
elementary
 
1:12 AM
My program is only 175% longer than Jelly.
 
@PhiNotPi Link?
 
for the tetration challenge codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/97025/2867
 
How would I write an interpreter for Repetition?
 
1:26 AM
what's Repetition?
 
;_;_;_;_; I did not setup firewall properly and now ssh port is blocked
gaot did a stupid again
6
 
I really like this question:
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Q: Does the code terminate?

Bolton BaileyThis is a code golf challenge I thought of with a mathematical bent. The challenge is to write the shortest code possible such that is an open question whether or not the code terminates. An example of what I mean could be the following piece of python code, adapted from an anwser to this cs stac...

It's both a programming puzzle and code golf, and makes one research
pretty fun
 
@PhiNotPi Dangit. Beat Minkolang by 1 byte. >_<
 
@El'endiaStarman git rekt
haha, my piano app has a cheat mode in which pressing any key plays the right note, and you pick a piece from a list of options.
 
1:40 AM
> piano app
Sounded like you had a smartpiano for a second
 
<- is broke college student
 
@PhiNotPi Ah-HA! Golfed it down to 11 bytes! >:D
Unfortunately, that does seem as low as I can go.
 
I don't see a way to make mine any shorter either.
 
And thus, our languages are like bucks who locked antlers and couldn't free themselves, locked in a stalemate for eternity.
 
...I don't think that happens in real life
:)
 
1:54 AM
Yeah, they die eventually.
 
-.-
@Downgoat :)
 
how do I check if a number is prime in Pyth?
i see that I can factor
i just need truthy/falsey
 
P_
 
thanks
 
For whatever reason isaac defined P on non negatives to be prime factors and on negatives it's primality
So you negate first
 
2:03 AM
@quartata what would a good language to implement a functional golfing language in be?
(and anyone else)
 
Am I allowed to offer more than 500 rep for an indefinite bounty?
 
@WheatWizard you can offer multiple bounties, yes
iirc
 
Wait, xnor using a golfing language? Who are you and what have you done with the real xnor
 
@WheatWizard Yes but you'd need to post more than one bounty to reward
 
How does that logistacally work when I award the bounty?
I can't bounty a question more than once
 
2:05 AM
@ConorO'Brien Whatever language you would use to make an imperative golfing language?
 
thanks
:P
@WheatWizard can't you?
 
On the house.
 
@ConorO'Brien I though I couldn't
 
@WheatWizard Well, not at the same time probably
 
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Q: Multiple bounties on a single question: is there a limit?

JodesI'm expecting to put a bounty on one of my questions, and I was considering putting setting the bounty at 500 reputation. How would this affect things if I had to put up a second bounty on it? Would it have to be 1000 reputation (since each extra bounty has to be doubled)? Would it just have to b...

 
2:07 AM
ok I must have been confused
thank both of you
 
np
@Downgoat I may be using cheddar to implement my next golfing language
 
:O
:D
+1 great idea
will personally endorse this language
 
can it read files yet? :P
 
yes
 
fantastic!
 
2:10 AM
IO.read(filename)
it returns file contents as string
 
This made me think: Normally, the DB does the SQL->ExecutionPlan step, but it'd be really cool if the execution plan could be described in some standard language, and any language could be used to compile down
 
Does the bounty bot still work?
 
@WheatWizard it's erratic
 
ok I'll give it a bit then
 
it usually doesn't work, though
CMC: output the five chat feed icons.
 
Anonymous
2:25 AM
@PhiNotPi I have an answer, but like the feeds, it will take 45 minutes
 
@Dennis I'm thinking about problems of unknown termination for jelly
 
Usually the bounty bot doesn't work.
 
@Dennis with a built-in for totient, Carmichael's conjecture looks promising
 
Ok I guess I'll do its job then
I added 500 rep to my bounty
 
The bounty bot won't pick up bounties from that Meta thread, I think.
 
2:28 AM
Oh... the bounty bot only works when you post an actual bounty.
 
oh I'm sorry then
 
@xnor Brocard's problem would make a mean Jelly answer.
 
@Dennis as does the conjecture that 10 is a solitary number, i.e. there's no n with phi(n) /n == 0.4
 
@xnor Hm, Carmicheal's conjecture has two integers you have to keep track of, which sounds annoying in Jelly. phi(n) /n == 0.4 should be easy enough though.
No match for Brocard though. Not even close.
 
right, there's a square-checking function
 
2:34 AM
Yep.
Among the first things I ever implemented, since I had wanted one badly and many times in other languages. It doesn't even use floats, so it should terminate only when the integer cannot be represented anymore.
 
3:06 AM
@everyone Should I create a feed for new bounties without deadlines?
 
Can anyone tell what this is supposed to be?
H4sICCcCBFgAA3BhY2FwdACdWMty4joQ3ecrKDZ3MQHbkJAZqm7NzDfczCYbSjaNrUKWXJIMRVz8
+23Jkl8kE+wN4Faf46NHP0T1MJvN6X6+nUXh82rzEj0aAyc5oGlekIQUem5th5KxnR+gySXoDooz
B4kDFT7gIxMp5c7POviXvDxvfmycgZyIJnJXSmY8M60LtQ2C2qqWKdVZGZcKZCK4Bq6XiciDMrAM
P0//rj1vKh2RfcHcm4e0BXWUNQ/yqqCjLtM5G0rp+Hc8D4IxcUb4jfJPXhE0iD4F5elICkRUgdAZ
4Krh0LVZAqr0/XKsd2W/cM0aEoVrKGF/N43zR0Fm769VIKEQLVsZq0TSQlPB75fWQ3kqIVPC6TsZ
R4WohsEoux9pvT0UTnj07sfW7lVQSHoiyeXaKkiAnnB1R/INcJ5OXwobhn/QsVlxqmFH9rkNvANh
CtB+tdFp1Wjwdmv7+sD3AnwPzcYYxG8++y2T7B81Q6ec8AWjRzC/jySFGRrwS84OQs6UyGH2h9ME
@Dennis yes
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev looks like a hash
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev variation of base64?
 
oh, you know what it is?
-.-
 
3:09 AM
I know it's B64 but I can't figure out anything else
@Maltysen yes actually
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev some kind of key?
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev url?
 
No
It's some kind of data
I know it's B64 but I can't figure out anything else
 
Base64 encoded gzipped file containing JSON.
 
3:11 AM
...gzip?
I didn't try that
 
Looks like information of a GitHub repository.
 
omg it's my freaking github api request
how did THAT happen
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I have to say, that's pretty good data compression
 
Anonymous
3:16 AM
@Dennis Sure. I don't see the harm. Just make sure it only triggers on new answers, and not edits to answers (like "this bounty has been modified/awarded")
 
That's how the sandbox and loophole feeds work, so it shouldn't be different for this one.
 
we totally need a community ad for unofficial bounties
 
Anonymous
Ok good :)
 
Anonymous
@NathanMerrill I think that would be much harder to make
 
@Dennis Given the two byte totient I'd like to try totient(n) divides n-1 implies n prime, but I dunno if that'll be short enough
 
3:18 AM
not an automatic ticker
 
Anonymous
Oh
 
Anonymous
Yeah then maybe
 
juts some ad saying "Hey we've got thousands of rep to be gained. Simply do one of these"
 
Anonymous
Though it would be neat to have an automatic ticker - we'd just have to standardize the format for answers and enforce that standard
 
Automatic ticker wouldn't be possible anyway.
 
Anonymous
3:19 AM
@Dennis Wouldn't it work on the same principle as the normal bounty ticker?
 
That one has SE's blessing. All other images have to be hosted on imgur, so CGI scripts are out.
@Sp3000 10 bytes, I think.
 
Hmm, close then :/ (thanks for trying)
 
is piet compression interesting?
 
Anonymous
@Dennis Aww :( Maybe we could talk them into making another exception?
 
that was a joke about images
piet is an image based programming language
 
3:22 AM
I know, but it got me thinking
 
@Sp3000 I have 7 for Broncard's problem, but I don't know if @xnor eants to post it.
 
Hmm k, nvm :P
 
Current favorite shell prompt: OMZ agnoster theme
 
@Mego No harm in trying. I was thinking about a dynamic TIO ad as well (displaying current language count and a few randomly selected languages).
 
I don't think trying for a dynamic unofficial bounties ad request will work unless we actually standardize the format first
 
3:27 AM
Dennis has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
@Dennis Time for me to make a new icon?
Or you could just re-use the +600 icon.
 
@Dennis can you explain your reasoning about no longer adding 1?
 
I got confused. Nevermind
 
you can go ahead and post brocard's problem
 
OK, will do. :)
 
3:36 AM
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A: List of bounties with no deadlines

Zach GatesA Milky Way golf I am offering a 50-rep bounty to anyone who can answer a code-golf question using Milky Way in fewer bytes than myself. To compete, the author of the answer should ping me in The Nineteenth Byte, or email me (see my profile page). This bounty is offered to any answers that are ...

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A: List of bounties with no deadlines

lirtosiastFitting but Unsuitable Languages: 4 x 500 points There are some challenges for which we all want to see answers in a certain language, even if the solution is very difficult. I'll award 500 points for an answer in such a language to any. Hexagonal Maze Time! in Hexagony Current shortest soluti...

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A: List of bounties with no deadlines

Martin Ender2x 500 rep for quines in Hexagony There are two ways to write a quine in Hexagony (which will probably result in very different solutions). The former is clearly the golfier version but the other one is would be a lot neater. I'll give a 500 rep bounty to the first person who manages to write ei...

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A: List of bounties with no deadlines

Wheat Wizard1000 Rep for a modulo in Brain-Flak The current record for the shortest modulo is 64 characters: ({}(<()>)){({}[()]<(({}()[({})])){{}(<({}({}))>)}{}>)}({}{}<{}>) This was set by Dennis here. If you can implement modulo in less than 64 characters in Brain-Flak, you will get 1000 rep. 1000 f...

1
A: List of bounties with no deadlines

Qwerp-Derp50 rep for a quine in Logicode It's what it says on the tin. Just write a quine for Logicode, and post it on Golf you a quine for great good. Simple as that. You are allowed linefeeds below the output. I will be offering 50 rep to whoever can complete the task. Just write a comment down on thi...

 
@Dennis request to change feed avatar
 
Do you want to make a new one?
 
The bot's name isn't in title case like the rest
 
Avatar ideas?
 
Deep dream :)
 
3:45 AM
Eh, I just used the casing from the meta post.
 
I'm curious what happens if you deep dream a pure black image, actually
 
I could do a +infinity
What is "deep dream"
 
That sounds appropriate.
 
@PhiNotPi that image craze everybody was going on about for a while
 
the one that gives you nightmares
 
3:52 AM
Alternatively, this guy.
 
4:02 AM
@Dennis thoughts^?
 
@PhiNotPi maybe make the color the bounty dark blue color?
looks nice tho
 
Or gray because meta.
 
@Lynn hey thanks. are you dianne?
 
@Dennis take your pick and/or tell me to fix something
 
I would have done it myself, but I can't. <_>
 
@MitchSchwartz I'm also impressed your BF is only 325
@MitchSchwartz i presume dianne is dianne
 
thanks :) and the other submission is a 276 for: EOF = 0; -[-] fast; input ends with newline
commented as [276]325
 
4:41 AM
@Lynn idk what kind of explanation you want. you can look at it in terms of 4 different types of cells (not including newlines), either [OX] or [ -] or [ |] or [ -|+], and the latter 3 kinds of cells can be calculated by looking at certain neighbors
 
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Q: A Question On Money Problem

ADITYASuppose that we have a wallet whose total amount(let's say it's N) is given by the user at runtime of the programme. The restriction in the contents of the wallet is that only 1,2,5 or 10 notes are allowed. **The question ** is to print all possible combinations of the notes adding to the total o...

 
5:01 AM
wow
writing a quine in Turtlèd was easier than I expected
 
6:06 AM
Halp i just upgraded ubuntu to yakkety and I now need to authenticate to change my backlight brightness
 
Anonymous
Welp, someone is drifting around my apartment complex's parking lot. I expect a loud crash, followed by sirens.
 
Can I use scipy for a python answer?
 
I bet sirens are great to fall asleep to
 
I want to implement the Riemann zeta function
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Q: Does the code terminate?

Bolton BaileyThis is a code golf challenge I thought of with a mathematical bent. The challenge is to write the shortest code possible such that is an open question whether or not the code terminates. An example of what I mean could be the following piece of python code, adapted from an anwser to this cs stac...

 
Anonymous
6:16 AM
@mınxomaτ Already on HNQ :P
 
6:28 AM
I'm back
After all those months...
And everything looks the same...
 
@Qwerp-Derp yes, just put it in the header and count the length of the import
 
0
Q: Print the Greek alphabet!

George GibsonPrint the Greek alphabet! Fairly obviously, you have to print the Greek alphabet. But I thought I'd make it slightly more interesting, so there's a twist: when your program is ran with an argument (anything), it should output the Greek alphabet in lowercase. Information Greek alphabet (Capita...

 
@LuisMendo Congratulations on hitting 30k! You certainly deserve it! :)
 
 
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7:40 AM
Wanted to use Lychrel numbers in that terminate challenge but they're already used in the Perl answer :(
 

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