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this is a really long gif
 
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Warning: watching it may induce diabetes
 
there finally got to the end
 
user15026
@MichaelT I really want cake now.
 
user55340
@AshleyNunn It is a lie.
 
user15026
12:18 AM
Well, I don't have any cake, so I suppose so
 
psr
@MichaelT We don't have any cake but I could go to the urinal. The cake is a lye.
 
user15026
facedesk
 
user55340
Btw, @psr Darkest Dungeon is final release (as in "we're done balancing - this is it").
 
psr
@MichaelT I just read about the (possibly only) guy who finished nethack without any spoilers (other than the guidebook and wizard mode). It took him about 2000 games over 4 and a half years.
@MichaelT I spend almost 0 on games. Would you rand Darkest Dungeon above Dungeons of Dredmor?
(Also don't have time for very many)
Which is sad. I really like games. Sigh for games.
 
user55340
@psr I think Dredmore is in the top tier of rogue likes (and not kind of rogue likes - but actual turn based dungeon crawl akin to the original rogue). The character generation and crafting trade offs are wonderful. Darkest Dungeon is a brutal and dark party based dungeon crawl that has lasting effects between individual crawls.
 
12:31 AM
we badly need more 10kers voting to delete stuff, about half of the questions listed under recent delete votes in the 10k tools are ones only I've voted on (meaning the votes before mine have aged away)
 
user55340
@Ixrec delete votes never age away.
 
I could've sworn there were half a dozen questions where the tool said there's 2 recent delete votes but when I click through to the question there's only 1
 
user55340
The lasting effect aspect of the game is one that really makes it shine. That you have to be rotating the party roster so that people don't go, well, insane.
 
user55340
And its indeed brutal. What it lacks from the more traditional rogue likes is an emphasis on inventory management - you don't have the "do I take A or B" choices that you find in Dredmore or Netback or Angband.
 
psr
@MichaelT That sounds possibly fun, but the whole brutal and dark part sounds less fun. Dwarf Fortress style emo crazy sounds maybe fun.
 
user55340
12:34 AM
The permadeath aspect of it is also different from traditional rogue likes. A character may die, the party may lose... but there are more adventures to draw from.
 
psr
@MichaelT Inventory management is not my favorite. I mostly do wizards in nethack because they are good at teleporting so there is less grind.
Which do you have more fun playing?
 
user55340
@psr the 'brutal' aspect of it was where it got a bunch of negative reviews. When you kill something, it may leave a corpse. That may mess up your strategy. There's a ranged enemy behind two corpses and you can only target the first two things... got to get rid of those corpses.
 
user55340
And some of the negative reviews were "you are mutilating corpses of your enemies! You're bad people!"
 
psr
"Hide behind the wall of dead bards"
At last it's a game mechanic
 
user55340
The dark aspect is a "you are dealing with undead" and a lovecraftian style of "you are going to go insane" with your characters.
 
user55340
12:38 AM
I mean... shoot... one of the healer-ish range-ish guys is an occultist
 
psr
Detailed insanity mechanics could be fun. This guy is afraid of the dark, this guy of spiders, this guy wants to be a spider so really avoid spiders...
 
user55340
@psr not quite that detailed, but yes...
 
user55340
They are listed under quirks
 
user55340
Fear of beasts means that you take more stress damage when fighting a beast type monster. Fear of mankind means you take more stress damage when fighting a human.
 
user55340
And then when you take too much stress damage, that character can get a bit erratic, or nutty... or actually better.
 
user55340
12:42 AM
The combat skills / preferred position (in that quirks link) shows where they prefer attacking from. Most of their skills work from the 2nd position, with one of them not working as well in the first. THere's a heal that affects all positions (the green ring). And this character can target any of the enemy positions with different skills.
 
user55340
One of the characters I have is a kleptomaniac and when you find treasure, he's got a good chance of saying "nope its mine" and not letting the party get it. Rather annoying.
 
user55340
Some of the 'quirks':
 
user55340
> Fear of Mankind: When fighting humanoids, -15% Stress Resist and -10 ACC
Fear Of Unholy: (Monster Type Unholy) -15% Stress Resist -10 ACC
Flagellant: In town, will only Flagellate for stress relief
Flawed Release: -3% Ranged CRT
Fragile -10% MAX HP
Gambler: In town, will only Gamble
God Fearing: In Town will only Pray for stress relief.
Guilty Conscience: Bears the crushing guilt of deeds real and imagined.
Hagiomania: Obsessed with sainthood.
Hemophilia: -20% Bleed Resist
Hieromania: Experiences religious visions and delusions, prone to investigate worship curios
 
user55340
As to the tone of the game:
 
psr
1:07 AM
@MichaelT Nice look, but trailers make almost everything seem terrible.
Trailers in general. This one as well.
 
user20683
BioShock Infinite was so much better in that first trailer
 
user55340
Its not 'dark' as in 'emo' its dark as in 'Cthulhu' and 'you will have characters die and/or go insane (while dying)'
 
user55340
So, Dredmore is IMHO a "you should buy because it is great". Darkest Dungeon is "it is good and a much better rogue like than the vast majority that make a claim to that title" - if you're not sure on Darkest, wait until another sale.
 
1:37 AM
I just lack any understanding of BioShock's interest from people.. the artistry seems so rehashed-90s, and yet the game lacks much of interest beyond the artistry; it seems to be what people like I think
 
user20683
@JimmyHoffa it's cheap philosophy that makes people think they have more moral agency than they do
 
user20683
And yet that's precisely the point of the first game
 
user20683
Gameplay peaked in the second game, Infinite was too "multiplayer"
 
user41796
2:23 AM
@Ampt halt or significantly decrease, yes.
 
user41796
Reverse? No.
 
well obviously it's not going to put my nickel plating back
but it doesn't leak, and it doesn't decrease the thermal efficiency
 
user41796
right on both
 
user41796
Did the OEM shoot down your request?
 
the only concern I have is further dissintigration and that leading to pump failure
not yet
 
user55340
2:24 AM
 
but they're being difficult
 
JK Suzie may be mean but she's not that evil
 
user41796
I don't think that the pump will fail before the channels / seal fails.
 
user55340
@Ampt Have you read the theory that Frazz cartoon is Calvin grown up?
 
2:25 AM
the flaking is almost exclusively limited to the center of the block IE high flow areas
the areas in and around the seals are pristine.
@MichaelT I have not
 
user55340
Frazz is a syndicated comic strip by Jef Mallett that, on the surface, is about school custodian Edwin "Frazz" Frazier and the school where he works, but which, according to Mallett, is really about discovery. The strip debuted on 2 April 2001. == Style and themeEdit == Mallett has explained that the strip is about discovery, and not merely learning. Frazz's job is just the surface. He reads everything from Milton to Hiaasen to bike racing magazines, he writes, he races, he’s an athlete, and he’s a songwriter, discovering the value of a day job. When songwriting started going well, he kept his...
 
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>
Because of similarities in calligraphic style, Frazz's physical appearance, his station in life as a brilliant underachiever, and his age relative to Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes, speculation arose that Mallett was actually Bill Watterson, or that Frazz was an unauthorized sequel to Watterson's strip and that Frazz is Calvin as an adult. Some other characters that are similar are Miss Wormwood and Suzie Derkins in Watterson's strip to Mrs. Olsen and Miss Plainwell in Mallett's strip. In a May 2006 series of strips, Frazz and Caulfield invent a game called "Bedlamball" that, like "Calvinbal
 
@GlenH7 this is good news... I have some more faith in my blocks. I'm not going to install them back in until I have no other options though
I just got done re-installing the stock heatsink on one
so that I can test my other new parts
 
user55340
 
don't want the return period on my CPU/mobo to expire before I even boot it up
that'd be awkward
 
user55340
2:27 AM
Or one for @ThomasOwens ...
 
user55340
 
user41796
I'd probably do the same thing. Leave the water-cooled blocks be until you hear back from the OEM
 
@MichaelT that looks far too close to calvin and in the same style to be a coincidence.
 
user41796
Very heavily influenced, no doubt
 
@GlenH7 The problem is that they are based out of eastern europe so their prime time for responding is opposite of mine
they ask for info, I send it, and wait a day
 
user41796
2:28 AM
The cynic in me says they wait until the end of their work day to respond to you just to drag it out. :-)
 
Ugh, totally could be.
that's my latest feedback
 
user41796
So I made "clean out the pantry" chili tonight. Pretty damn tasty if I do say so myself.
 
I provided the order number from the place I ordered it - cuz they don't ship to the US so I used a distributer
 
user41796
:26964704 Erm, info leakage
 
@GlenH7 got it ;)
 
user41796
2:29 AM
yw
 
user55340
@GlenH7 You've got Mrs. Wormwood-ish, Calvin-ish (the underachiever janitor who knows no rules) who is now dating a teacher (Suzy-ish)...
 
user41796
HIS NAME ISN'T ...
 
pretty sure you guys could figure that out already
 
user41796
:-)
 
so yeah - it's been interesting. I currently have 3 computers worth of parts sitting all over our living room
 
My GF is not amused
 
user41796
@Ampt Just let her know that this is how it will always be...
 
@GlenH7 The only reason she's putting up with it is because one of them will eventually be hers
when I get it put together
it's usually confined to my office
but taking my behemoth apart requires more... space
 
user41796
space is good
 
and if I'm doing one out here... well... might as well do them all!
(I've also used every piece of tupperware to hold screws)
 
user41796
2:33 AM
Was futzing with the solenoid valve on my humidifier tonight
 
user41796
Can't wait for the replacement....
 
(I don't think she's noticed yet... shhhhhh)
@GlenH7 I read that as water heater at first and got very concerned
 
user41796
Oh, she noticed. She merely chose not to say sh!t
 
I've seen enough mythbusters to know how that ends
 
user41796
Yeah, I'm a bit annoyed. Took the whole thing apart and nothing appears to be wrong.
 
2:35 AM
well... that's weird
is it not humidifying? or just not turning on
yikes yikes yikes
I'm a little closer to the max power rating of my PSU than I thought
 
user41796
1WP - stupid bluetooth won't connect to the stereo.
 
user41796
Anyway - the valve won't let water through at all.
 
user41796
I can hear the valve click as if it's turning on, but no flow
 
user41796
I should have checked the ports more closely when I had it disassembled
 
hmmmm
bad relay perhaps?
or do you hear a mechanical click?
 
user41796
2:41 AM
I hear the mechanical click
 
well... it would be hard to differentiate those
 
user41796
very little build up in the valve seat area itself
 
mechanical relays sound like mechanical clicks lol
although it probably doesnt have a mechanical relay
 
user41796
The relay is pretty well separate from the valve, and I was able to put my ear right next to the valve
 
what model is it?
 
user41796
2:43 AM
 
user41796
Kip inc valve on a honeywell humidifier
 
user41796
Can't find a direct replacement from Kip, but I may not actually want that anyway. It's been problematic ever since I got it.
 
oh damn - you have a serious humidifier
 
user41796
yeah, this is a whole house model
 
wow ok yeah
 
user41796
2:44 AM
although I'm using a stand alone thingy as a backup currently
 
thats what we always had
water supply isn't clogged up, right?
 
user41796
If it is, it's in the inlet tube
 
user41796
but I disconnected the supply from the valve and turned it partially on to make sure it was flowing
 
Could you visually inspect the valve when you had it opened up?
see if it was activating?
 
user41796
No, because I had it disconnected from the power supply and relay
 
user41796
2:50 AM
I guess I could try that, but leaves me a bit leary
 
take it out
hook it up to an external supply
 
user41796
the electromagnet sits in the top part where the label is. The valve is in the lower assembly. And the valve is screwed into the lower assembly
 
pretty sure it's not switching off of 120V
 
user41796
No, it's 24V AC
 
the relay switches off of 24V AC?
 
user41796
2:51 AM
yep
 
what in the actual fuck?
 
user41796
But I'm not certain that the plunger would act as expected outside of the housing
 
thats.... bizarre
hmmm
well, no water flow seems like something that would be fairly intuitive to diagnose if you've got the time to dick with it
 
user41796
And I don't know that I want to be holding it at the same time. And I'd pretty much have to hold it as there are two other switches (air flow vane and humidity sensor) in line
 
get one of the kids to do it
 
user41796
2:52 AM
@Ampt I'm hoping the new valve I ordered is good enough
 
that's why you had them, right?
 
user41796
No, no, I like them.
 
And here I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure that's why my family had me
but now I just feel sad
lol just kidding
Settle down there bud, you've already revealed that you have a whole home humidifier. That's enough personal info leakage for one week from you ;)
you're the most secretive of all of us
I like to imagine you're lex luthor or something and this is what you do with your downtime from fighting super man
 
user41796
@Ampt Bah! He's mere child's play!
 
user41796
And being secretive lets me pretend that my life is more interesting than it really is.
 
2:58 AM
I choose to believe that it is, too :D
 
user41796
Thanks! Every vote of confidence helps...
 
gah... think I could get away with buying a larger PSU without the GF noticing?
I'm at an 850 and pc part picker is quoting my power consumption at 764W... without my watercooling loop
 
user41796
In other news, Crown 75th anniversary is pretty tasty and a worthwhile drink. Crown XO is good but flirts a bit too much with sweet.
 
and the pump alone is 18W at max...
 
user41796
She'll notice.
 
2:59 AM
ugh
of course she will
 
user41796
Is that peak power consumption?
 
yeah
 
user41796
Or RMS?
 
oh no
 
user41796
Meh, if it's peak, I wouldn't sweat it
 
3:00 AM
well
I don't know - that's just what they quote. Like the 780ti's claim 40-250W
not sure if 250 is peak or RMS
 
user41796
I personally would like a bit more hedge room, but I certainly wouldn't risk relational strife over the matter
 
user41796
I'm willing to bet that's peak
 
user41796
That's a lot of juice for modern electronics
 
oh... and I have 2 of them
 
user41796
Most car stereos can't put out 250 W RMS
 
3:01 AM
there goes 5/8 of my PSU for the graphics cards
then 140W for the CPU alone
then.... 8 fans
How much do power meters cost?
 
user41796
As compared to brand new PSUs and CPUs? Not all that much
 
user41796
You're in relativistic economics now, not absolute
 
see, that's the kind of answer I like to hear :D
 
user41796
yw
 
user41796
but seriously, it doesn't matter if the meter is $50 or $75 or $100 when you compare that to the loss of the mobo & cpu or PSU
 
user41796
3:04 AM
or all of the above
 
user41796
And then we can factor in the emotional anguish you'll experience when you realize the equipment is fried
 
user41796
Or the amount of time you'll spend trying to accurately determine what the root issue is
 
lol
I'm just gonna buy a whole new one and call it a day
 
user41796
There ya go
 
it helps that my PSU is a corsair
I think they make the best on the market - so that 850 is a solid 850 RMS
 
user41796
3:08 AM
I'd believe that, yes
 
user41796
Oh wait
 
oh wait?
 
user41796
You've got an 850 RMS PSU and your peak consumptions are adding up to the RMS power? Quit worrying
 
user55340
@psr oh, part of the darkest aspect of the game - the light level is an important mechanic.
 
@GlenH7 errrr why?
 
user41796
3:09 AM
Peak values always exceed RMS values
 
user41796
If your PSU truly provides 850 RMS, then it's peak amount is much higher
 
yes - I follow you so far
 
user41796
effing chat rate limiting me.... grrrrr. Gonna go suspend Community
 
so if my component peak is lower than my PSU RMS...
 
user41796
Then you're completely fine
 
user41796
3:10 AM
compare apples to apples
 
yeah - but I can't get RMS out of the components
just numbers
no clue if those are RMS or peak
 
user41796
If all you have is component peak, and that's lower than your PSU RMS, then you've got nothing to worry about
 
user41796
I'm willing to bet they're peak
 
user41796
250W continuous is a nice little whole room heater
 
user41796
500 W continuous even more so
 
3:11 AM
it does that, yes
fuck it, we're just gonna see what happens
brownouts will brown out
 
user41796
I'd do a bit more digging into the actual specs of your PSU then
 
user41796
Nah, that level will just trip a circuit
 
user41796
and a normal 15A breaker can easily handle 1800 W
 
I mean if the PSU can't keep up
it'll likely just brown out, no?
 
user41796
yes
 
user55340
3:14 AM
 
cpu has a minimum voltage before it just turns off
 
user41796
Voltages will droop
 
user41796
Fans and cpu will slow
 
ok, another data point - I was using all of the big stuff on this PSU already - all I did was upgrade mobo/cpu/ram
 
user41796
likely not that much difference
 
3:15 AM
I went from a 95W CPU -> 140W
 
user41796
mobo draw is minimal
 
I think that's the biggest difference
 
user41796
yeah, that's a bump
 
user41796
but again, that's going to be peak power off of the CPU
 
yeah
provided I don't OC it... which I probably won't do yet
 
user41796
3:16 AM
they don't run that hot all the time unless you're running 24x7 rendering
 
nope - just when I'm gaming
now that I have to pay the power bill...
 
user41796
You'd think that there'd be some software that could track the CPU power consumption....
 
there is - on the newer PSUs
corsair i series (how original)
I have the series before that one (of course)
 
user41796
Well now there's reason to buy a new PSU... :-)
 
Quit trying to get me in trouble :P
 
user41796
3:18 AM
Just like Verizon suggesting I buy an Android phone based upon my "previous purchases." Fecking idiots.
 
user41796
@Ampt Hey now, I've been nothing but good about keeping you out of that trouble
 
@GlenH7 til you start agreeing that I need newer, shinier things
 
user41796
precious. my precious.
 
I know enough! He said you killed him!
 
user41796
Gollum was a bit anti-social in that regards
 
3:21 AM
it's 4:20AM in slovenia - 5 hours and maybe Roman will think about responding to me :D
@GlenH7 Wait, Gollum wasn't Frodo's father?
 
user41796
@Ampt nah, he'll reply in 12h 39m just as he's walking out the door for the day.
 
@GlenH7 Don't give him any ideas.
 
user41796
And you think mods are evil.... Sheesh. Just ask 1st and 2nd level support.
 
 
user41796
ah, stories from a bygone era
 
3:28 AM
level 3/dev? I'm glad I don't have that haha
no one's going to be calling this guy
 
user41796
It wasn't that bad
 
It's ok, this is a safe space
 
user41796
I was never on call there, so I didn't mind so much
 
you can tell the truth
 
user41796
Well, the truth is that my brain has just about shut down for the evening. So I'm going to listen to some music while I sip on the remainder of this glass of wine and call it an evening.
 
3:31 AM
Have a good night
Thanks for tempting me with the dark side
 
4:27 AM
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@AaronHall Quit drinking by yourself superman
 
He's not by himself, he's surrounded by other people, who don't seem to care.
 
 
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8:24 AM
Morning all
 
why negative vote ? is this too board for SO ? should I move it to programmers.SE ? — Please Teach 26 secs ago
 
@Duga huh ?
 
9:15 AM
well, they don't appear to have reasked it on PSE at least, whatever it was
 
 
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11:30 AM
@Mathematics Duga is a bot which attempts to identify when people refer to this site. We use it as an early alarm system because the fast majority of user referrals are baaad.
 
12:21 PM
While not bad, this is probably not the type of question that should be asked on stackoverflow. Programmers might be a better place. — IInspectable 6 secs ago
 
1:07 PM
where should I convert IEnumberable to Table ?
or should my repo return me a table
I have a extension method
maybe I need to add another extension project
 
1:25 PM
[programmers](programmers.stackexchange.com) might be a better place to ask this question. :) — hamena314 37 secs ago
 
1:55 PM
Happy Coffee Day
@Ampt you just got new bits and bobbles? You mentioned being in the market, but that was fast. What'd ya get?
 
Team success: First production release is this Sunday.
 
What happens if it goes wrong?
No one is there to fix it. You should release to production on like...Wednesday.
 
we're supposed to be congratulating her!
but yes it is a good idea to do prod releases when people are in the office
 
@WorldEngineer so BioShock is popular because of some caricature of a philosophical perspective that it portrays in a way people find interesting? Not because it's actually a fun game itself? I mean, I guess that might do it for some... Doesn't do it for me. Then again I'd probably think a game that was an expression of Blake's works and philosophies would be very interesting, but that's just because he's an idol of mine. No, games trying to sell philosophical analysis don't sound like my cuppa.
 
@Ixrec Congratulations are waste. They don't add value to my process. I have leaned them out.
 
2:04 PM
@Ixrec nonsense, prod releases should only be done at 2am on a holiday like Christmas or Thanksgiving.
 
wait, someone claimed BioShock was popular because of the Ayn Rand connection? blargh
it's popular because it had a very unique and memorable setting along with pretty decent FPS gameplay, and that famous plot twist everyone loved
 
@Ixrec There's a connection between BioShock and Ayn Rand? Admittedly, I've only played the first one.
Ayn Rand is also stupid. I couldn't make it 100 pages into the first book.
 
the premise of the setting is that some guy who has (supposedly) a very similar philosophy to Rand's tries to found an underwater utopia city
 
@ThomasOwens I'll presume you're kidding because not recognizing the value of morale in process is a grave mistake
 
being a video game, you show up after it is no longer a utopia and everyone left is trying to kill each other
 
2:07 PM
@JimmyHoffa Yes, I am kidding.
 
the Randy stuff (pun not really relevant) mostly comes in the form of dialogue and audio logs explaining what the society was like before it went to pot
 
Ah. So nothing truly central to the plot, or I'm not remembering it if it was.
 
central to the backstory, but not the plot you actually play through, yeah
also, it's the only reason most gamers including myself know what "art deco" looks like
 
@Ixrec you know what, I think you just nailed it. It's an age thing. The game is an absolute rehash of 90s FPS mechanics, concepts, and artistry, but to a number of folks who didn't game in that era it must be fresh gameplay. I couldn't get into it because it felt like games I got bored of ages ago.
If you think gameplay is why people liked it, it just means they weren't playing FPS' in the 90s
 
agreed, the gameplay was good but not at all unique, except maybe in the combination of non-unique gameplay elements it presented
 
2:10 PM
which is sad because I don't ever want to blame something on my age. I'm just a young punk, somebody tell me to get off their lawn before I lose it
 
Infinite is much the same way: gameplay's nothing to write home about but still fun, and it's all about the setting/plot
 
@Ixrec I only meddled in a bit of 1 and 2. Infinite actually looks much more interesting regarding the artistry and setting.
 
it's certainly a very different setting from the first two, arguably an even better one
Infinite also has a significantly more complex and timey-wimey plot (albeit very back-loaded), if that matters to you at all
 
You know what was a bloody awesome FPS on rails? No One Lives Forever. A game on rails really needs to stand out somehow if it's going to be completely linear, BioShock 1/2 just don't stand out.
 
are you talking about a literal on-rails shooter or just one with linear level design?
 
2:19 PM
@Ixrec I mean as opposed to something with open-world elements where you can independently explore etc
 
oh, I would say they both need to stand out because both kinds have been done to death
lol
 
@Ixrec yeah but with open world elements I can at least go entertain myself a bit in the game even if it's fairly bla. Without that, if the game is bla I'll just drop it very quickly
 
I know open world is like that for a lot of people but the idea of having random junk to kill time with in a video game usually feels to me like giving up on making the core part of the game fun to play
 
I might try to deconstruct the growth system if it has non-linear growth available, try to see what happens if I grow my character a ton before starting anything, or see if I can get my character into troubles meant for much further along - just to see what happens. Open world done badly still provides a lot more choices to just try enjoying the game vs. a linear game done badly
 
the worst example for me would probably be Assassin's Creed 3, which might as well have been a linear game with mandatory "run from A to B" segments in between all of the real content
 
2:23 PM
@Ixrec haha I have only heard bad things about AC3 and beyond which stinks because I loved 1 and 2 with all the expansions (which were as big as the full-games)
 
same, AC1 was cool, AC2 fixed all its problems, and then they just haven't changed anything of consequence since
the only open world game I played that actually benefitted from being open world in my opinion was the original Mercenaries
 
That said, the open world mechanics meant in all the Assassins Creed games I did actually go out and grow my character a whole bunch doing things like capturing every tower etc before going back to the main quest
 
because in that game driving from A to B was fun because I'd get in random skirmishes and maybe even stumble across one of my targets and the combat was fun enough that random firefights with no purpose whatsoever were actually enjoyable
 
getting all the shops, gaining lots of money and buying the best equipment before really moving on in the main quest etc. Everytime it moved me to a new city I would capture every tower to open the whole map before even starting the quests
 
emphasis on "the combat was fun enough that random firefights with no purpose whatsoever were actually enjoyable"
most open world games don't even try to come close to that
AC especially since you're supposed to be an assassin
 
2:26 PM
@Ixrec meh. So, did you play Morrowind until your eyes bled? Because if not, I can't talk to you anymore. It would just be untoward :|
 
you seem to be citing a lot of RPG mechanics, which might also be relevant, as I personally dislike those kinds of mechanics which encourage grinding for upgrades over just learning to play well
never played any of the Elder Scrolls games, everything I've heard about them implies they're exactly the kind of open world games I would not enjoy at all
 
Jan 15 at 18:34, by Jimmy Hoffa
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This might be a better fit for programmers.SE. It's off-topic for here though. Oh, and one question per question in the future please. — j08691 33 secs ago
 
I was not comparing Elder Scrolls to AC3
 
I just started playing that. It's exactly what I was looking for in a pick-up-and-play experience. ah, the good old days.
 
2:37 PM
@Ixrec A non-linear RPG isn't at all about grinding though, it's about designing and strategizing your build. It's a linear RPG where every build is exactly the same that causes it to be a focus on grinding. That said, I suspect you'd like FarCry 3 (and probably 4) a lot if you like random firefights where the fighting mechanics are actually great
 
This game does a great job of remaking the old NES experience while avoiding the common NES annoyances. It's probably the only modern retro game I've played so far that actually succeeds at this.
 
@MetaFight it's interesting how big retro has become
 
@JimmyHoffa interesting how poorly it's usually implemented.
 
@MetaFight in the same vain of a fun pick-up-and-go game, you could check out Abyss Oddysey
 
My theory is that (some) people prefer low res graphics because it forces them to fill in the blanks with their minds (ooh, imagination). HD graphics are too much for me. Too much to take in in too little time. Stresses me out.
 
2:41 PM
it's got fun local co-op my kid likes while being a neat side-scroller with mortal-kombat meets mario type gameplay
 
@JimmyHoffa I think my brother recommended this one.
This gem nails the smash-bros type experience. The visuals are nice too and kind of aim for an early 90s arcade vibe.
I like that they kept the old 3:4 aspect ratio.
Simple game play, lots of action, great balancing system so that nobody ever dominates... and a decent story mode too.
 
@ThomasOwens That's precisely why we're doing the release on Sunday. Lowest traffic. We have a backout plan too!
 
@GlenH7 yuck, rye. It's all too sweet, with a tinge of inexplicable tanginess. Bleh.
 
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@JimmyHoffa I liked it
 
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Not enough to run back out and buy more bottles at the fire sale prices, but definitely didn't regret the purchase
 
2:53 PM
yeah, most people like Crown... I just can't tolerate Rye, it's worse than bourbon with that odd cloying aftertaste
 
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All prod deployments should be at 4pm on Friday.
 
Did I ever mention the time I accidentally dropped the production database at 4:30 on a Friday?
 
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@KitZ.Fox How much bribing did it take to get back in the good graces of everyone else?
 
user55340
Go to the dba. Say "So, hypothetically... If I were to drop the database, how long would it take to recover from... Say... The most recent backup prior to an hour ago?"
 
Well, after I could speak again and changed my pants, I called my boss at home to ask him to please restore it.
Because there was no DBA.
 

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