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2:00 PM
I am going to leave that alone...
 
:P
Don't worry, the cat will beat you for you
 
careful what you ask for...sometimes what you want falls on your head
 
no the cat is just going to plan out murder me...
 
My last cat used to bite me if I got in the chair
@AbrahamVanHelpsing :D
 
2:01 PM
@Joshua I will murder you then:P
 
@Joshua O_0
 
@RolandTaylor my cat bites me if I look at it...
 
@Joshua she likes you
And she is jealous of your wife
 
@RolandTaylor lol
 
No, she is just stupid...
 
2:03 PM
haha
 
She doesn't know not to bite the hand that feeds you, because someday, it may just stop feeding you if you bite it to many times...
 
You do know she installed a keylogger on your computer right?
@Joshua she would just eat the hand that won't her
 
joshua@joshua-pc~$ sudo apt-get install cat-bite
 
@RolandTaylor:
@smartboyhw that would work better if I actually had Linux installed on my computer...
 
@Joshua Oh what do you have?
 
2:05 PM
Windows XP
 
@Joshua LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Recommends: rabies-shot
Package: cat-bite

Make sure you install the recommends...
 
@Joshua Oh God....Then let me run cat-bite.exe
@AbrahamVanHelpsing lol
 
haha
cat-bitexp is only a trial version...
and rabies-shot-win is shareware with a nag screen
 
Virus detected: Cat-Burglar
 
2:08 PM
@RolandTaylor No it is beta
 
Oh and BTW, when I refer to my cat, I am really talking about a caterpillar.
 
@Joshua O_o
I uh,
I kinda
well...
I sprayed your cat...
 
@RolandTaylor Good job
 
@RolandTaylor with what?
 
2:10 PM
@Joshua insecticide
 
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Hi Guys
 
****** you @RolandTaylor
 
:'( I'm sorry man
 
@AmithKK Hi
@Joshua I thought @jokerdino once said no foul languages here:P
 
@smartboyhw I don't see any foul language... just a bunch of asterisks...
 
2:13 PM
@Joshua Got more?
 
@Joshua I did that before and @jokerdino told me that
 
@AmithKK got more what?
 
@Joshua Look at the reply-to message
 
@smartboyhw is @jokerdino a mod?
 
@Joshua No
 
2:14 PM
@Joshua no and so that is why I ignored him:P
 
@Joshua What fowl word is that?
 
Well then if he is not a mod, and a mod didn't say anything to you then I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Wait.. Its a password :P
 
@AmithKK lol
 
@AmithKK it wasn't I was just put a random amount of asterisks for the effect...
@AmithKK and no I don't have any more
 
2:17 PM
^^what a clever ad
 
@AmithKK and it should be "foul": "fowl" is a bird
 
@Joshua right. Sorry :d
 
jrg
NOBODY SWEAR.
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i swear i'm glad you got here @jrg ;)
 
@jrg nobody did... go back to sleep....
or work or whatever it is that you do this time of day @jrg
 
jrg
2:19 PM
LOL. how are you all?
 
@jrg not to bad, you?
 
@jrg good preparing my Open Week session tmr
 
@smartboyhw what are you speaking about?
 
jrg
@Joshua tired heh
 
@AmithKK Uh hum look at wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek and look at the timetable:P
 
jrg
2:20 PM
@smartboyhw cool!
 
@jrg Yeah
-1
Q: Where to configure synaptic in Ubuntu 12.04

Alexey PlutakhinTrying to invert scrolling with to fingers. Where to configure synaptics for this?

what a bad question....
 
I am getting sleepy.... very very sleepy...
 
@Joshua WAKE UP
 
@Joshua Give me all your passwords unhashed and unsalted. snaps fingers
 
@AmithKK Wow that is kidnapping (sort of)
 
2:25 PM
@smartboyhw cool
 
Noobs.
Oh hai @jrg
♥_♥ - I'm on a Toshiba bro :D
 
@RolandTaylor I want one
 
for funsies, try setting a transparent undecorated window to fullscreen and watch unity/top bar go poof
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing >:}
 
@Joshua Wow:P
 
2:27 PM
@Joshua thanks
 
jrg
@roland sweet!
 
There you go, now you can steal my online persona...
and make it your own.
 
@Joshua do I really want to do that?
 
@Joshua That might be a crime
 
jrg
leaves, will be back later
 
2:34 PM
@RolandTaylor @smartboyhw but I gave it to you.....
 
@Joshua i forgotten it already
 
@Joshua I didn't see that
 
@AmithKK It was removed duh
 
@jrg lies
 
There should be a catch removed items userscript
 
2:35 PM
@AmithKK LOL you write one
 
(removed)
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Oh
 
didn't we get rid of like 2 years ago?
 
whistles
 
Nope. We have like 600 questions with the tag.
 
2:45 PM
yeah, I thought we had gotten rid of it
 
looks like it was the ubuntu-desktop tag
 
BBL
 
Just got a new laptop with an intel grpahics driver -- I'm used to nvidia. Can anyone point me to a proper way to configure the display for dual-monitors?
 
@belacqua gnome-control-center
 
@roland Whoops, thanks, but I forgot to mention that the normal 'display' settings via gnome are not recognizing my monitors correctly.
It thinks my 13 inch laptop screen is 24".... I've got a dock for this Dell, and even though this worked fine on an older model, Ubuntu is quite confused and won't let me properly select monitors to turn on or off.
So, what's the under-the-hood way to do this? xrandr?
 
I'm too confused about the state of the tools to ask a question usefully, I think.
 
@belacqua unfortunately yes, and I hate xrandr
Still ask a question
 
@roland thanks. Ugh. was afraid of that.
 
@jokerdino: Remember me?
Okay, so I now have a flash drive.
 
neat.
now create a live usb
 
2:57 PM
With YUMI?
 
@WannabeMiniMathematician Probably unetbootin
 
So, is 'under-the-hood' an understandable idiom to people outside North America? Under-the-bonnet doesn't sound quite right to me.
 
@smartboyhw: unetbootin doesn't support 12.10 yet... does it?
 
@belacqua I can pretty much understand both.
 
@WannabeMiniMathematician Download the ISO and just select it within unetbootin yourself
 
2:59 PM
I have the ISO.
Unetbootin doesn't have the 12.10 Ubuntu.
 
@jokerdino Cool. I didn't really expect that.
 
@WannabeMiniMathematician What do you mean?
 
@belacqua under the hood works for me
 
@belacqua But I doubt I am the average outside the North America guy.
 
@smartboyhw: I download unetbootin and it doesn't have Ubuntu 12.10 in the list. @Bob suggested me to download YUMI.
 
3:01 PM
@RolandTaylor Good -- didn't think about the idiom until I wrote it.
 
@belacqua I understand both, but I would also understand if you called a truck a lorry
 
@jokerdino Trrue, probably not.
 
I have decided Seamonkey.
Firefox provided more widely supported add-ons but is a dumbed down browser.
 
Why not try iceweasel then?
 
@WannabeMiniMathematician Maybe you should use `Startup Disk Creator' then
 
3:02 PM
@jokerdino iceweasel is firefox less branding for practical intents and purposes afaik
 
I know. Saying random things to make myself feel like smartypants.
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing I've only ever heard 'lorry' on the BBC over here, so it's not something I generally remember to consider....
 
Seamonkey > Iceweasel in my oppinion.
 
webkit for the win
 
@jokerdino: Are you sure I must create a live usb? Will a live usb be able to install ubuntu on another laptop?
 
3:04 PM
OK, I'm back off to work. Peace out, y'all. (heh.)
 
@belacqua i worked with a british lady whose father was picked up off a scooter by a truck/lorry's rear-view mirror, so the word is stuck in my head from the story
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Oof. Yeah, that would stick.
 
@WannabeMiniMathematician You know what, good luck with your problem. I am pretty tired today.
 
Oh boy.
That's my last question... and sorry that I am annoying you.
 
No, I am running a little low of dopamine.
 
3:12 PM
bte all
 
Voila!
It's this purple screen and there is Ubuntu written on it.
Also, there's five dots out of which only one is white.
Is it installing stuff on hard drive?
 
it's loading.
supposedly.
 
It's taken long enough.
That is why I posted it here.
 
34
Q: My computer boots to a black screen, what options do I have to fix it?

Jorge CastroI am trying to boot Ubuntu on my computer. When I boot my computer it boots to a black screen. How can I fix this? Table of Contents: If you are trying to install Ubuntu If you have a dual boot system If an update or something else caused your problem

@WannabeMiniMathematician ^^
 
Checking it...
There's still one white dot...
In this video, it shows moving dots. youtube.com/watch?v=RghpdQH1bpo
Should I turn off my laptop and start again?
 
3:25 PM
then you'll be in a different question "my install was interrupted and now i can't boot"
ask a question on-site where you specify hardware and take pictures of the screen you get to
 
I'm turning off and trying again, if it works.
Now shows moving dots at least.
Though it said something about a logical block.
 
failing HD maybe ... i cannot overstate. search the site. lots of answers there...
 
Sure, okay.
Now there's one red dot and four white dots. lol
It showed something like there's a driver sr0 failing.
I'm pretty scared to ask on the site.
How to fix a problem with a driver when you can't even boot!?!
brb
 
3:45 PM
@jokerdino around?
 
yea
 
jus thought of saying hi.
 
hi then
 
umm.. what abut the ambitious journey we embarked on a couple days ago
 
i thought we dropped ubuntu-tweak fork?
we can write a new one from scratch though
and get the SRU fix into quantal and new rewrite for RR. Good luck \o/
 
3:48 PM
okay.
where's that merge proposal by amith?
linkie
 
Eye for an eye will just make the world go blind....
 
0
Q: Ubuntu Could not purge package

denysI've tried to install oracle-java7-installer package from custom repository onto Ubuntu 12. It was failed during executing some post-installation script. So. I want just to rollback it and proceed with another solutions (to install java 7 jdk). I've tried to make > sudo aptitude remove ora...

 
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Can anyone see this?
 
nope.
 
3:57 PM
user image
3
 
cool
It sometimes gives me timeouts
 
Amithkk the next time you ask me a stupid question like if I can read, you will be blocked.
 
@AmithKK didrocks asks for tests to approve the patch
how do we make the tests workwith this?
@jokerdino you are probably off the grid now, but lets do something and finish what we have started.
 
4:14 PM
Back
@RolandTaylor My network keeps giving me errors
It's still like that
@Mahesh Didn't we do this already?
 
we did, in a hackish way.
 
I'm on Ubuntu, but not on the laptop I desired it to be on.
I'm now sure that it's a driver problem.
 
Hey guys, is the spread supposed to be in 12.10?
 
@RolandTaylor chill man... its okay
 
Gotta go and disturb the SuperUser guys.
 
4:22 PM
Hi guys... Sorry to bother you... urgent problem I haven't seen before :( Disk space gone critical in the mapped /var - I just deleted 2GB of old logs (already got a local copy), but, df isn't updating / still says 90% in use... Any ideas?
 
@RolandTaylor the world isn't going to end because @AmithKK keeps asking seemingly stupid questions...
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I deleted via rm / the standard way
 
@WilliamHilsum /var and / on same partition?
 
@Joshua :D
 
@Mahesh nope
/var is on it's own - just deleted a log file and it doesn't seem to have updated the statistics :/
 
4:23 PM
the complaint is about /. so try cleaning stuff from same partition as /
@WilliamHilsum the statistics from du wont account for other partitions i believe
 
sorry... nothing about / - was using that as punctuation! Need to be careful in Linuxy rooms!!!
 
:P
 
/ is fine ... problem is only with /var - getting warnings it is at 90% when it isn't - only partition with that issue
 
oh. umm, what does du report?
 
should I run this from /var or / ?
 
4:26 PM
du /var should do from anywhere i guess
More specifically, look at du -chsx /var
 
FYI, I ran ncdu (fav tool of the moment!) and it showed only a bit in use... it is specifically df -h that isn't updating :/ (and that is what is generating the alerts AFAIK... through nagios)
671M /var
671M total
df -h shows:
                  2.8G  2.4G  287M  90% /var
 
@fossfreedom can you generalize this answer? I'd like to reuse it: askubuntu.com/a/91595/235
 
thats wierd.
 
but, the files are not there :/
there were 2 really large files which I downloaded/ssh'ed and then deleted
 
du and df should report same.
 
4:33 PM
why does crap like this always happen to me!
 
try df --sync -h
 
whoa, ncdu is pretty awesome!
 
@JorgeCastro sort of like windirstat but command line... I love it!
@Mahesh still same issue :(
I just went to /var/log/apache2 and deleted access.log and error.log through rm, dones it loads of times before... but... it just doesn't seem to be reflected anywhere :/
 
@RolandTaylor when is the transition going to happen?
 
@WilliamHilsum its reflected in output of du
 
4:35 PM
@JorgeCastro is there a list anywhere of cool commands! must be others I am missing out on!
 
I dont know why df is still complaining
 
du just shows 47616 . when run from /var/log/apache2
run from /var it comes with a hell of a lot of info
 
du happily reported 671Megs in all of var.
thats what we checked when we tried du -chsx /var
 
Not really, I mean, it's just piled into the archive
 
GTG. BBL
 
4:37 PM
I just did echo test > access.log it allowed the file to be created! It isn't there...
:( ok, no worries!
@Mahesh I think I have found it... but, this makes no sense to me...
anyone able to explain... Using my windows knowledge here and just thinking "perhaps linux can lock files as well"... I just googled a command to see what can see current locks... (and also due to the fact that the log isn't being recreated) and I can see this:
Any idea why/how a file can lock something that is deleted? :/
followed this : pietervogelaar.nl/…
sort of weird behavior to me :/ Why does it allow the file to be deleted :/
restarted apache and it has worked... just very weird to me
 
4:54 PM
@Joshua status?
which transition?
Oh I remember now. We have not determined that yet.
Next step on this system, install KDE :D
 
\o/ my desktop widgets are working...now to make them...not text... ellipsis abuse
 
@RolandTaylor DOA
 
5:12 PM
Help! Everything is in Chinese / some foreign language!
How do I fix it if I can't read it?
 
@GeorgeEdison duolingo.com
In other words, learn Chinese...
2
 
Actually that kind of looks like Japanese, but I can't read either so I am no expert... That is odd, I have never seen that before...
 
I think it's Japanese too actually since it's switched my currency symbol to the Yen.
 
Eww Shell
 
5:25 PM
so... should i eat the cake?
 
9
A: Gnome-classic language turned into Chinese, how do I change it back to English?

harisibrahimkvSolution: Edit /etc/default/locale: LANG="en_US" LANGUAGE="en_US:en" Edit ~/.pam_environment: LANG=en_US Language=en_US Logout and Login or Reboot.

There, fixed it.
 
@GeorgeEdison awesome...
But why did it change?
 
I was trying to fix something with the keyboard yesterday and must have messed something else up.
 
@GeorgeEdison I hate it when that happens, you fix something, and in the process another thing breaks...
 
@WilliamHilsum files being read/written to can be deleted in Linux/Unix
that didn't strike me. :P
once all references are gone, the files go poof
 
6:02 PM
someone suggest a terminal based chat client.
I need IRC now, but something that supports XMPP so that I can access gtalk, etc would be fun
 
jrg and lazy both suggested stuff like that the other day, but i don't remember
 
@Joshua yes
 
whoz lazy?
 
lazyPower
 
okay. trying irssi
 
6:15 PM
Is there a SE where I can ask a hardware DIY question?
My problem is that part of my Toshiba's DVD drive is missing (the part that holds discs in place)
 
superuser comes the closest
 
Oh cool I'll ask about it there then, thanks!
 
6:35 PM
FIXED
Found the missing part
And we're back in business baby :D
 
all linux blogs should be burnt in hell.
 
@Mahesh Why?
 
every idiot thinks they wrote unix ground up. in LOLCATS.
 
In "LOLCATS"?
 
almost all of them use linux only to earn a few clicks. its mostly crap.
@Flabricorn its a joke programming language
 
6:40 PM
Oh, I thought it was named LOLSPEAK.
My bad.
 
wait, its not lolcats
 
I thought you meant they had used lolcats to show how they wrote unix from the ground up.
It's lolcode
 
O_o these speakers are kickin!
@Mahesh us too?
 
@Flabricorn yup. thats lolcode
 
@Mahesh Makes sense. I find some that are helpful, but I do this thing involuntarily where I glaze over all the text that is irrelevant, find what I need, and get out.
 
6:43 PM
@RolandTaylor 2buntu makes announcements. it doesn't act as if i-am-the-linux-geek-god-come-kneel-before-me
 
oh lol :D
 
@Mahesh I did notice that is the attitude of some of the bloggers now. 2buntu is great, it's like a little slashdot in a way.
 
if we did I'd be happy to fix it, because I'm vehemently against that very thing
 
:) and I'll not forget to point out anything that needs fixin.
 
I once upon a time thought that one day, I would be amazing with anything linux.
That day has yet to come.
 
6:46 PM
@Mahesh thanks :)!
Appreciate it
 
Especially because work uses XP. 11 years old. But apparently they bought computers with Win7 Pro, then put XP on there because to get all the content they needed for these to run as we wish, they decided to downgrade.
They also locked the BIOS, so booting from an external drive is difficult.
Especially because work uses XP. 11 years old. But apparently they bought computers with Win7 Pro, then put XP on there because to get all the content they needed for these to run as we wish, they decided to downgrade. mostly because they were too lazy, downgraded everything.
 
:P
I dread that moment when i will be forced to work on windows at a job scenario.
lets hope that in the next 2 years, more companies adopt free software.
 
@JorgeCastro I'm intrigued! - ok revised this to be more generic I think.
 
there's just some dupes
but I'm already out of votes, lol
 
flag and I'll merge/delete etc.
 
7:10 PM
@Flabricorn do not make silly edits please.
Unicorn value of an airplane? Seriously?
P.S. why do suggested edits take multiple reviewers now?
 
@RolandTaylor ... because it was too easy to approve silly edits...
 
@fossfreedom I see.
I don't approve silly edits :(
 
you and me both.
 
SE no longer trusts us :P
 
dont complain - they could have set the bar at the usual 5 votes.
 
7:15 PM
lol true
 
What do unicorns have to do with airplanes @Flabricorn ?
 
Hello...
I'm having a minor issue...
I have a laptop I am setting up for someone using Wubi(Silly me)...
and it boots but then keeps showing the plymouth logo, and the cursor, as well as another one that does not move in the upper left corner. The screen flickers off and then on a few times keeping the same [native] resolution, and nothing changes. I can move the regular mouse cursor. Once it changes to the busy one after a screen flicker, it moves but is not animated.
I can't seem to get into a TTY(doesn't like the key) or use any SysRq except B for a reboot. When I try to boot it using failsafe graphics, it gives black and white bars, evenly spaced, vertical, and exactly 8 pixels wide. The laptop has the ATI radeon 6840G IIRC.
Anyone?
 
8:24 PM
@Mahesh So, in the mean time, what happens to the file?
e.g. In Windows, if there is a lock, you can't delete the file at all
In Ubuntu, you can delete the file, but, it won't actually be gone - and you don't know about it... AND can even over write it, whilst it still technically exists... just seems very weird to me :/
 
8:37 PM
@WilliamHilsum technically in Windows you don't delete files... you just remove them from the file system table... then eventually they get over written... this is what causes fragmentation...
@WilliamHilsum that is also why you can recover data, (assuming that you haven't over written it...)
 
@WilliamHilsum That's typical of most Unix-based operating systems.
Are you familiar with the concept of filesystem inodes?
 
This would make a great car after some TLC
 
8:55 PM
It is anticipated that g++ will get updated in 12.04?
 
I found some of my old drives, one with Xubuntu 7.10 :O
lol it's doing a disk check
wake me up when it's 2080, by then it should be done :P
 
Need CV as dupe or NARQ:
-3
Q: How to make Ubuntu 12.10 faster without sudo?

Peter Lorne Wagg JrSo yeah How do I make Ubuntu 12.10 run faster

You can dupe to:
118
Q: How can I improve overall system performance?

Decio LiraWhat are your tips for improving overall system performance on ubuntu? Inspired by this question I realized that some default settings may be rather conservative on Ubuntu and that it's possible to tweak it with little or no risk if you wish to make it faster. This is not meant to be application...

 

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