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@MarcoCeppi half of our problem is people asking out of the norm questions

We get a lot of "Ibijibi, Ambijambi"

No one can answer them :/

htorque

do we have a problem?

3:23 PM

Bilibio, ghilibaidi?

htorque

is the answer rate the only true metric?

we don't have enough moderators :P

looks around.

Also, gajdipajti

@htorque no, there are several other metrics, all of which we're doing fine in

But low answer rate is a problem. If there are more unanswered questions than not, people won't continue using the site

@MarcoCeppi I think they count for nothing if we can't answer questions after all, ain't it?

right now 14,000 questions are considered unanswered

@jokerdino if we can't answer the question, then it should probably be closed

no need to keep kicking the can down the road

3:26 PM

the other day, i was suggesting to foss to make it mandatory for new users to register their accounts.

@jokerdino Intigiji, janomiji

@MarcoCeppi no way, i don't want to face Eliah's wrath on Meta.

The only wrath you have to worry about is mine ;)

You do know I delete at least 40 questions every week or so.. right?

Delete or close?

Q: Is it okay to send old questions to doom?

3:28 PM

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Given this context: If the question is more than 30 days old, and ... has -1 or lower score has no answers is not locked ... it will be automatically deleted. I have downvoted some 30-odd questions that are quite old (more than 3 months or so), have no votes, no answers and not close...

discussion delete unanswered-questions auto-delete

@MarcoCeppi Downvote.

there are too many questions that needs to be closed and removed

But so many people are opposed to downvoting. So, I do it all by myself.

I'll eat any blame thrown my way too.

Send anyone opposed to downvoting to me

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@RolandTaylor --^ :P

Downvoting is the most essential action anyone can do on the site. To not use it would be foolish

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3:31 PM

I think I'll make a meta post about the good ways of getting rid of abandonware over the weekend.

lol

Pff

@jokerdino Marco does not scare me.

You downvote, I'll help people write better Q/A

@MarcoCeppi I guess that's a yes to what I am currently doing :P

@RolandTaylor you're free not to downvote anyone. It's not wise to recommend others to do the same.

I don't recommend it

3:33 PM

@RolandTaylor I downvote abandoned questions dear.

I also don't not downvote just because of a rep cost.

Just so, we don't accumulate dust.

I downvote bad questions and answers all the time

I just think that downvoting should be reserved for special cases.

If an answer for example should be a comment, flag it.

it's my duty to help sort the content on the site, and by doing so I tell someone "This isn't the best Q or A you could have given"

3:33 PM

Downvoting it - is pointless.

Marco, the last time I checked, I have had cast more downvotes than you :P

I am a meanie guy.

If someone could have given a better answer, but at least gave it effort, I won't take their rep, I'll comment.

@jokerdino now you see, you get a kick out of it.

I don't.

Whatever be your point, I think what I am doing is better for the site.

@jokerdino I'll have to downvote twice as hard now ;)

@MarcoCeppi Yeah, good luck with that :P

3:36 PM

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Problem?

Why am I starring all the Marco's messages??!

@jokerdino I think there is no "better for the site in this"

As I always say, it's not about who does it or who gets notice for what they do, it's that things just get done.

Each person has different methods and motivations, and mine just simply include *less* downvoting than yours.

I respectfully disagree with you.

@RolandTaylor there's a very clear reason why Jeff and Joel added an up and down button for voting

3:39 PM

@MarcoCeppi note, I didn't say I never do downvote.

it would be like saying "I just choose to vote down content I can edit instead of editing it. If I do the work for the user they'll never learn"

I'm just more specific about what I downvote.

Well then there's no problem now

@MarcoCeppi if I have to edit because you did a poor job, I'll comment on it. Most of the time, people seem to get it.

I don't know why, but maybe I just have that effect on people?

You do don't have much of an idea on what sorta posts I downvote though right?

I downvote (mainly questions) that are not useful nor helpful because they are abandoned by their owners.

3:42 PM

I'll do the downvoting for Roland :)

People who doesn't care about our site in anyway that they don't even have a registered account.

@msPeachy lol <3

@jokerdino I close those if they are not useful to anyone else and can't be answered.

I do down vote but mostly I edit first, then comment, then flag, then if it's really really bad, I'll downvote it

I downvote questions that are clearly someone being downright stupid (like rants).

@RolandTaylor Well, proxy deleting seems like a better idea to me.

3:43 PM

@msPeachy +1

Well, I edit posts that are new-ish, that have a reasonable chance of getting answered.

Not those that are at least a year old, etc

Because I think that is just a waste of my energy.

Of course, you wouldn't have to get what I am trying to say.

I agree, I spend most of my time in the First Posts of Review Beta

@RolandTaylor thanks

If one downvote does a better job than 5 close votes, I think that should be recommended.

@jokerdino I agree that there are questions that really must be deleted

It saves collective energy of the rest 4 people.

3:46 PM

I'm going back to Blender, because I don't like being a villain (as I often am).

Ciao.

But you can always reverse your votes

@RolandTaylor nooo

Bye.

I think that's the important thing to note

Typically, it's Bad post, Downvote, comment, person fixes and comments back, I upvote

Everyone's workflow is different

I dislike when people don't want to involve in a discussion when they can't defend themselves.

Sorry abt that.

3:47 PM

but if you're flagging before downvoting, that's straight wrong

@MarcoCeppi How about both?

Don't waste my time looking at something you should have just downvoted

Oh, you mean that way.

No, I don't ever remembering flagging anything as LQP.

Flagging is pretty much the absolute last thing you should ever do

5 mins ago, by msPeachy

I do down vote but mostly I edit first, then comment, then flag, then if it's really really bad, I'll downvote it

In RE: ^

Ah, I see. Thanks.

I guess that's the Roland's effect.

attacks.

3:49 PM

well I think flagging an answer that should be removed by a mod is better instead of downvoting it

@msPeachy I think Marco is talking about cases that don't have to be deleted but should just be voted down.

Like a half baked answer that could possibly help if it was improved.

since I can't delete it myself and you have the super powers otherwise I wouldn't waste mods time by flagging things

Right.

He said flagging is the last thing to do, so what about dupes? If the post was well written but a dupe, I wouldn't downvote it, i'll just flag it.

@msPeachy Like I said, I am of the opinion that he is talking about cases when a post doesn't have to be acted upon by a mod but only deserves corrective voting measures.

3:53 PM

ok

So, you downvote when a post shouldn't be deleted but deserves substantial improvements.

We can have a meaningful discussion if people don't jump to assumptions and conclusions too fast. I am outta here for the day.

Oh I forgot

good night

@RolandTaylor still here? I'm off to bed

Good night

Amith KK

4:25 PM

Hello all

Amith KK

4:36 PM

BBT

Good Night

4:49 PM

@jokerdino ...

@jokerdino let me put this lightly.

That's bullsh*t

I can defend myself, I just am avoiding conflict these days for the sake of self-control and my sanity.

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Q: X11 on server without forwarding

o/

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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I'm running a java application on my ubuntu server which refuses to open if it cannot open a window (the content of the windows is of no interest for me). Since the server is not connected to any screen I don't want to have a full running x11 environment like openbox. Currently I'm forwarding thi...

ubuntu x11

Looks like there was a discussion about downvote..

@jokerdino because you like it.. me too

Oh, my god. so many messages to star

5:11 PM

Did people freak out?

I just arrived and read some earlier comments

@aking1012: "So people hire you to break into their places... to make sure no one can break into their places?" "It's a living." "Not a very good one"

Was thinking of you today when I read that.

\o/

5:59 PM

@Mitch oops

I was writing an answer to that question. and this was answerable too.

:(

The Interrupter

Bounty offered: (Skype) gnome logout with webcam and screen sharing http://askubuntu.com/q/181540?atw=1 #skype

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on September 19, 2012 at 6:01 PM

i hv 1 question

You are welcome

does askubuntu rep helps joining ubuntu member?

Q: How do I copy files from Windows partition to my Ubuntu partition

One close vote needed for this to be closed

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I am dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu and I have many important files on my Windows OS. I've been trying to copy the files from windows to my Ubuntu home directory but the paste option is disabled when I rt click in my home dir. How can I copy the files? What is the command to copy files from ...

command-line windows copy

6:07 PM

@penreturn yes, it does.

i see... thanks @jrg

helped me a ton, it's one of the only reasons I'm a member.

<-- feeling good

yeah? im new in ubuntu... almost 1 year... i just hv blog n help community on fb

we have a group on facebook too.

6:10 PM

i see... may i join?

You can, but I think it will not help you too much

let see if i can help answering basic question :p im on ubuntu-my loco, indo, india

Are you an Indian?

your profile saying "Malaysia"

nope... im from malaysia and im answering question on other loco to on fb

oh. ok

6:17 PM

im a lil bit worry for interview... im not very good in english T..T

@penreturn you can have it done in your native language.

hmm... you aren't good in english. and I'm bad in English

really? then who gonna translate that?

Why is KDE-accessible icon is always on on my PC ? I can't remove it

It seems like a virus, whenever i select quit, it gets started

1 vote is needed for this question be considered as answered. OP says the answers helped him. askubuntu.com/q/186047/61218

6:29 PM

@RolandTaylor looks like maine coon

What is the icon at the left ?

is that a virus?

@Anwar which one?

the left most icon

@Anwar that's the accessibility icon.

You can disable it.

@RolandTaylor but i can't

every time i select quit, it starts automatically :(

6:38 PM

That means that accessibility has been enabled then

Check your system settings.

It used to happen to me too with certain Qt applications.

7:12 PM

Just brought down the closevote queue to 0 for the day...

Halp! My desktop just reverted to the Gnome theme.

@GeorgeEdison why is that>

8:26 PM

This error message makes me chuckle: "NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus."

He added 4 answer in PHP question within 20~ mins. Is this indicating a dupeness in those question? or something else? askubuntu.com/users/34298/rubo77?tab=answers&sort=newest

@Anwar same answer for all question?

Yes. of course

lol...

See this page askubuntu.com/questions?sort=active

8:37 PM

@Anwar yea i can see that :D

@Anwar Should something be done? A comment? Is the user even in the wrong?

@ObsessiveFOSS shrugs, I really don't know

askubuntu.com/questions/182505/… does the answer relate to ubuntu server 12.04?

Can you start a meta post?

but I think, this type of things shouldn't happen

8:40 PM

Just start a meta post, with proper links.

It is 2:40 AM here. really need to go to bed

I don't even know how I got second highest meta participation.

wewww

@ObsessiveFOSS nice

I surprised to see my name on the second line

I was looking at the bottom of the page

wakakka look like im far away from all of u T..T

8:42 PM

and hoping to find my name on the 2nd page

Good night, cya

Q: How do I use lightscribe when burning CDs and DVDs?

nite sir

wisemonkey

does anyone here know how to etch to lightscribe disks?

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I can I produce those nice images on the back of my dvd (lightscribe)? Is it possible on ubuntu?

dvd burning

I'm following that one -- but still wanted opinions

9:13 PM

fwiw - i found out one of the triggers for that "no battery present" bug. if you suspend and hard power off during suspend - next reboot you get no battery present.

@jrg - lollerskates

The Interrupter

Any plans for a dedicated Ask Ubuntu Android app? http://meta.askubuntu.com/q/4069?atw=1

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on September 19, 2012 at 9:01 PM

@wisemonkey What is the manufacturer of your drive?

@TheInterrupter hey, i wonder if anyone has thought to make a "unity lenses" adapter application for android... the crowd goes wild ... that would make the askubuntu lens an app along with loads of other lenses...

@GeorgeEdison the rename to the interrupter is still in place ;)

Well... an interruption is an interruption.

sorry...did i break your lightstribe concentration in my best samuel l jackson voice

Takkat

9:28 PM

@wisemonkey: I can't test this (no lightscribe drive here) but may be worth a look: sourceforge.net/projects/qlscribe

My latest endeavor:

10:35 PM

@AmithKK ^ done with Blender, I can tell you how or send you a blend file if you need.

No Adobe junk was used in the making of this glow.

you'll get a faster response if you make them look like the sonic gems...

11:37 PM

All he has to do is remove the 5 points, and use the glow, then change the colours.

11:55 PM

Stupid smoke detector... it's loud and it's broken >:(