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Nathan Osman

9:01 PM

Does he have wget?

Thijser

Hey guys is the default shell in ubuntu the gnome shell by any chance?

Rinzwind

hope so. making an answer now >:)

Nathan Osman

He could manually download the dpkg package and use cp or whatever it is to manually install...

Rinzwind

@Thijser no

@NathanOsman yeah on it

Nathan Osman

@Thijser Good heavens, no.

I'd move to Arch if that ever happened.

Thijser

9:02 PM

OK so bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1281302 shouldn't be a problem for me

Rinzwind

@NathanOsman done :+)

Thijser

You have moved him to arch?

Rinzwind

if gnome shell becomes the default i will seriously consider moving away from ubuntu :P

Thijser

What's wrong with it?

Nathan Osman

0

A: by mistake dpkg got removed

To fix this, open a terminal and download the dpkg package: # For i386: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.18.4ubuntu1_i386.deb # For amd64 wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.18.4ubuntu1_amd64.deb Extract the data.tar.gz file: ar x dpkg_1...

Also done >:)

Rinzwind

9:14 PM

@NathanOsman nope you missed a "t"

Nathan Osman

Where?

Rinzwind

me likes yours more

@NathanOsman before the "ar"

Zanna

fixed it

Nathan Osman

ar is the command I meant!

Rinzwind

sure :D

and why is there a . before /usr/bin?

Nathan Osman

9:15 PM

@Zanna I appreciate the edit, but that wasn't a typo.

Zanna

@NathanOsman there's an ar o.O ?

Nathan Osman

Debian packages are not readable by tar.

Rinzwind

aha

man ar
works :X

who knew :P

well Nathan did

Nathan Osman

@Rinzwind Because of how the archive is structured.

Rinzwind

guess I can actually say I learned something today

Nathan Osman

9:17 PM

"tar -tvf data.tar.gz" will show you the structure of files in the archive.

Zanna

TIL... in an embarrassing way that annoyed someone else haha

Nathan Osman

You can see that they start with "." so that is required when extracting them.

@Zanna Totally fine - I would have made the same mistake if I didn't know "ar" was a command.

It does look like a typo.

No harm done.

Zanna

:)

Rinzwind

only wasted time :=)

edwinksl

@NathanOsman sounds piratey

Nathan Osman

9:18 PM

@edwinksl lol

Rinzwind

ar needs gh as paramters to make it work

ar -gh :D

Nathan Osman

Heh.

Seth

@NathanOsman yeah! exactly!

Rinzwind

nathan is on a roll :P

Nathan Osman

@Seth I used dpaste.com with highlighting enabled.

Seth

9:20 PM

great, I will give it a shot. Thanks!

Nathan Osman

In Chrome, I selected just the code, went to print, and then clicked "Print with system dialog".

Then selected "print selection".

I made a PDF but it should be identical to what the printer churns out.

Thijser

Are we still trying to print code?

Nathan Osman

Yes :D

Thijser

May I suggest calligraphy course on the subject?

Seems like that's faster

Rinzwind

ok bedtime. see you all tomorrow

Thijser

9:22 PM

bye

Fabby

Sleep is for the weak

o/

Thijser

Well I'm also going to be week then

bye all

Fabby

Good night!

Seth

9:43 PM

@Fabby I wish I could sleep for a week!

Fabby

My boss is complaining that I'm not taking any PTO and that I'll burn out...

Tell your boss you need a week to just sleep or you'll burn out and he/she/it'll give you a week!

@Seth -----^

IanC

man, moving sucks, specially when you don't have a place to go and a deadline -.-

Seth

@Fabby hah, I wish.

Zanna

@IanC too right! my sympathies :(

Fabby

@IanC Do it like me: tell all your friends you need to store one box at their place; bring some food while you're at it, have a drink, stay for the night !no drinking while driving), rinse and repeat.

IanC

9:49 PM

Thanks @Zanna, the dude that rented the room for me simply told me he wanted to bring a friend to live here, so I have maybe 3 weeks, maybe a little more to find another place

@Fabby, that's a good idea hahaha

Fabby

once you're out of the old flat, keep dropping by with food and drinks "to get something from the box"

Did that for a year before I found my own place. :-)

But then, I'm a great chef... OTOH, you might be a great drinker, which is also fun! :D

Zanna

@IanC Best of luck

Fabby

Depending on where you live: I've got 2 spare rooms...

IanC

@Fabby, I quit drinking, but I could start again in an emergency like this one! Sacrifices we do right? hahaha

Fabby

Start cooking then! :D

IanC

9:52 PM

Just wish the rent in this city wasn't so overpriced

Fabby

That's true all over the world in cities...

IanC

if I had more time it would actually be cheaper to finance a small flat (those of 20-25 m²) than to pay rent

Fabby

"If you had more time?"

ShalI have you banned from chat for 24 hours???

plenty of time! :P

IanC

financing a flat is kind of a big decision, it's 30 years paying for it, so I'd have to look for a good one, good location, place to store my motorcycle, get the bank to do me the loan, then all the burocracy of the documentation, get an engineer to approve the building

but it would end all those headaches I've been having with renting places here

Fabby

So do it, and have all your girl friends come in to help you choose the decoration....

Funnily enough when I did that last time, I invited the guys to come help me paint on Saturday and Sunday and their GFs to come help me choose the colours on FR-evening,

No one showed up on FR and 5 Girls showed up on SA and SU to come help paint.

(and they were impressed with my choice of colours)

o/

IanC

10:00 PM

I'll do it, just need a bit more time to get things ready, better take that decision without the clock ticking

what was your color choice btw? haha

Zacharee1

@Fabby I'm so tempted to shout your (first) name in chat for some reason...

IanC

what program do you guys use to convert mp3 to ogg?

was looking for a straightforward solution, just like pdf2ps, CLI if possible

didn't want to download audacity just for that :p

Nathan Osman

@IanC ffmpeg is probably the easiest and fastest.

ffmpeg -i something.mp3 something.ogg

^--- should do the trick

IanC

I think it worked! Thanks @NathanOsman

Nathan Osman

No problem.

IanC

10:13 PM

nice to know you can use ffmpeg for audio conversion too :)

Nathan Osman

Yup.

IanC

by the way @NathanOsman , since you're experienced with web-dev, what should be my steps on learning it? I've been reading HTML/HTML5 and now CSS, plan on further reading JS and MySQL, at the same time trying to get apache working on a VM

and doing some website there, just for practicing

Fabby

@IanC avconv

:D :D :D

Nathan Osman

Sounds good but I wouldn't focus too much on MySQL because (1) it is slowly declining in popularity and (2) most large scale web applications use an ORM.

Instead, pick a web scripting language like Go or Python (easier for beginners) and learn an ORM like SQLAlchemy or Django.

Django is highly recommended for beginners because it takes care of so many things out-of-the-box.

ORM, form validation, templates, routing, etc.

Fabby

Go has been on my list of things to learn for what? 2 years now?

Nathan Osman

10:19 PM

It's a language I keep getting away from (because of other projects) but makes me keep coming back to it.

Fabby

@NathanOsman Vista SP1 was rock solid!

IanC

cool, I'll look up for Django!

Fabby

Well... Solid compared to other MS OSes

Nathan Osman

@Fabby Yeah, Vista wasn't as bad as everyone likes to joke it was.

But I had my fair share of problems with it.

Fabby

indeed! Ran Vista for ... 7 years?

Before converting to Ubuntu...

Vista was my last personal MS OS.

Zacharee1

10:21 PM

o_O

Nathan Osman

I went straight from Vista => 8, so about 4 years for me.

Zacharee1

if you like Vista that much @Fabby, you'd never have left Windows after trying 7

Nathan Osman

I'm still on 7 (my laptop anyway) :D

Desktop has Windows 10. Meh.

Fabby

Microsoft wanted 110 or 140€ for me to have an English version of Windows 7

instead of the French and Dutch versions that came preinstalled.

I never installed it, wiped the disk and installed Ubuntu.

Why did I install Ubuntu?

Zacharee1

idk why did you install Ubuntu

Fabby

10:23 PM

I googled "linux support" and Ubuntu came up in 50% of the first 10 links

Zacharee1

lol

Fabby

:)

Nathan Osman

I switched to Ubuntu around the days of 9.10 after becoming fed up once-and-for-all with Windows after it crashed for the last time.

Zacharee1

I'm seeing more SUSE...

Nathan Osman

I said, "enough is enough!" and used Ubuntu.

Fabby

10:24 PM

12.04

Zacharee1

Nathan Osman

Oracle Linux!?!

Ruuuuun!

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman it's just RHEL

Fabby

Wow! Things have changed!

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 I learned a lesson - stay away from Oracle.

There's a reason we ship with LibreOffice and not OpenOffice...

...and why MySQL is dying...

Fabby

10:26 PM

They used to have the best DB in the world.

...and Java.

what is that raisin?

Grapes! :D

@Fabby I guess I was asking for that one..

Fabby

:-) Yes! ;-)

Zacharee1

10:27 PM

EEEK

THE DOUBLE SMILEY

MORE TERRIFYING THAN SOLARIS

Fabby

smiley and wink

Nathan Osman

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman alright, maybe that is

Nathan Osman

I have no idea why... but that seemed appropriate.

Zacharee1

oh it's not, but that's why it is

Fabby

10:28 PM

I knew a guy who got a brand new Sun Sparc if he would please give his old Sun WS to the local importer!

Zacharee1

huh?

grammar does not compute

Fabby

He bought it in the US 10 years beforehand, carried it all the way to Belgium

then after 10 years when it was old and dirty (but still working)

he went to the local importer to buy a new one

and the importer was so impressed by the old clunker that he gave him a new one to be able to put the old one in a display case

@Zacharee1 what does not compute.

How would you phrase it then?

Zacharee1

now I get it

"I knew a guy who got a brand new Sun Sparc for free because the importer wanted his old WS so badly"

something more like that

Nathan Osman

Just ran out of space on /var.

ಠ_ಠ

IanC

for X in $(find /fakevar -type f); do rm -f $X; done

:D

Fabby

10:33 PM

@NathanOsman o.O

What were you doing???

Nathan Osman

@IanC Dude, don't pull a Terdon!

@Fabby Docker wasn't cleaning up old images.

Fabby

:D

Nathan Osman

A quick clean up and all is well again.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman Bad Ubuntu! Bad!

@NathanOsman You must have used @IanC's command

Fabby

@IanC Don't do that!

Delete please!

Zacharee1

10:35 PM

@Fabby you mean rm it

Nathan Osman

There.

I nullified it >:)

Zacharee1

aboooos

IanC

just substitute rm for echo "" > $X

Nathan Osman

It's harmless now.

user136984

@ThomasWard I'm just working with what pull-lp-source gnome-contacts trusty gave me. Those are all patches which were already there and clearly previously applied in a previous version, I hadn't even tried applying my own patches yet, well, I tried, but until these errors are fixed it won't let me move onto the patches that I'm actually meant to be applying.

IanC

10:36 PM

didn't mean to pull a Terdon :p

I actually forgot rm would crash stuff because the logging doesn't create the files (or do they?)

user136984

@ThomasWard And yes, I have just checked and I am sure that that file does exist.

Zacharee1

Wait, that script wouldn't work anyway, would it? It has no sudo

user136984

My job is to backport in the upstream bugfix release 3.8.4. The current version is 3.8.3.

Fabby

No curfew any more? ;-)

user136984

@Fabby: Curfew? Which curfew?

Fabby

10:39 PM

I remember the time that you were supposed to be in bed before me!

user136984

I don't know why, but that always makes me think of Kefir.

Fabby

Going to have a smoke, finish watching the movie and go to sleep!

Good night all!

user136984

@Fabby Ah! No, no more curfew! ;D

user136984

@Fabby I miss read that as "go fishing" at first! :D

user136984

@Fabby: Goodnight! :)

Fabby

10:40 PM

Except @ParanoidPanda: he (still) gets a Pumpkin!

Zacharee1

the dreaded triple ping, performed by @ParanoidPanda

Fabby

(or should I drop that too now?)

user136984

God, I sound really excitable with all of those exclamation marks on the ends. :P

Zacharee1

@Fabby gasp

@ParanoidPanda you're just being British :p

user136984

@Fabby: Nah, I like the Pumpkin! :D

Fabby

10:41 PM

No he doesn't sound very British when he talks about Kefir.

close FF in 3...

2

user136984

It's Halloween soon too so I will turn into an evil night glowing Pumpkin too! ;D

Fabby

1

Zacharee1

Paranoid Pumpkin?

user136984

@Fabby BOOM!!!

user136984

;P

user136984

10:42 PM

@Zacharee1: :D

Seth

ah shoot.

My windows partition is hibernated and I need a file off of it.

Zacharee1

@Seth PEW PEW

@Seth just ditch the hibernarnated session

(anyone remember that?)

Seth

um, there's a reason it is hibernated..

Zacharee1

tsk

reboot then?

Seth

can't I come here and complain without someone getting all logic-y on me?!

:p

Zacharee1

10:49 PM

@Seth we're nerds. You want us to be socially adept?

Seth

touché.

Zacharee1

touchy

3

I LOVE THIS GIF

Nathan Osman

11:18 PM

Yeah, that's a good one.

Zacharee1

STARRY DA GIFFY?

:p

Nathan Osman

IMMA STAR IT, K?

Zacharee1

K

DONZ FERGT TO SMELL DA GIFFY

user136984

Goodnight! :)

Zacharee1

Oh, btw, "and little touchy fishy, k?" "oh my god i'm gonna drown you"

@ParanoidPanda Punkin'

WinEunuuchs2Unix

11:26 PM

Hey hey... what happens when I create a new tag? file-attributes

@Zacharee1 ^^^^ do you know?

Seth

it.. creates a new tag?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

doesn't it go to a tag review committee?

Seth

nope

WinEunuuchs2Unix

like do people vote on it to accept/reject?

oh

well I hope people don't start creating tags in french.... i'm lousy at that language.

I wanted to find out a file's last access time so I created the tag "file-attributes" was that the right thing to do?

Zacharee1

11:52 PM

someone made Oli mad meta.askubuntu.com/questions/16292/…

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