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12:07 AM
@Zacharee1 That's one for the history books... um eerr browser history pages.
 
I just read the reviews for the T-Mobile V20
a lot of people like it, and a lot of people who bought it are coming from the Note 7
what's interesting though is that those same people complain that the V20 is expensive
which is weird, because it's $80 cheaper on T-Mobile than the Note 7 was
There were also two people who said they loved the phone, but still gave one star reviews because it was expensive
 
hi
 
hello Xed
 
@TheXed eek
 
hi
 
12:11 AM
deja vu
 
hi
 
no getting hi in chat!~~~
Is it my imagination or does it cost 1 point to do an edit?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I don't think so, but it cost -1 credit to downvote.
 
OH... right, I downvoted someone in queue review... thanks!
 
12:44 AM
Why the hell does Skype suck so badly?
 
@KazWolfe Skype is pretty awesome on Windows 10 Mobile/Windows 10....
 
no it is not.
especially when skype somehow completely bypasses 2FA on my microsoft account
 
@KazWolfe well I don't know about that...
 
yeah so
migrated my skype over to my live account for 2FA and security.
 
But what I do know is I am able to send SMS messages from my desktop via skype...
 
12:56 AM
Nobody told me that I could still use my old Skype login to get in.
 
and that is pretty cool
 
And because I didn't know that, I neglected to change my (very bad) password on the Skype account.
So now I'm in cleanup mode because of that.
 
that sucks
 
@KazWolfe Skype sucks because it was bought by microsoft and they know you use Ubuntu so they want to punish you.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I don't think that's why there's a glaring security hole
 
1:00 AM
YouTube 360 is so cool
 
well i was j/k you know my style.
why zach?
 
definition is terrible, but it's fun to look like a moron to see around a room somewhere else
 
@Zacharee1 I assume you saw my video?
 
no what
 
sounds useful for home shopping
 
ooh
computer is no happy
 
@NathanOsman I remember blender used to have an ocean modifier, you can get a really cool effect with it!
 
there is a really obvious seam :P
 
you can set the waves choppness, I don't remember but I think you can even get some tricks to get a little foam on the waves curls
curls, lips, don't know how they call the little tip of small ocean waves
 
I think I'm getting it . . . .so maybe the exam might be not as bad tomorrow
 
1:04 AM
@KazWolfe I don't see any seam
 
@KazWolfe Screenshot or it didn't happen.
@IanC It took about three days to render that.
 
@KazWolfe What is that, 240p?
Of course you will see a seam at that low resolution.
 
WOW, I just noticed it's a 360 video!
haha
you need 6 angles rendering for that?
 
@NathanOsman why's that? compression?
 
1:08 AM
android 7 looks so nice ;-;
 
@IanC No, Blender has an equirectangular setting for the camera.
@Zacharee1 Yes.
 
cool :D
 
@NathanOsman you mean 240s :p
@KazWolfe Coming soon to me, on the LG V20
 
> iphone whose home button can be used to grate cheese ;-;
 
Still waiting for Nougat on the OP3...
 
1:13 AM
so nathan...
OP4. Wireless charging and SD slot?
 
@NathanOsman Unofficial CM14 build is out
@KazWolfe HA!
@KazWolfe make it parmesan
 
seriously it's high enough up that my fingernail gets stuck on it, and i've worn my pencap down on it now.
 
@KazWolfe Wireless charging is meh.
And I don't need an SD slot.
 
@NathanOsman you != me
 
Get an OTG cable :D
 
1:16 AM
@KazWolfe I warned you :p
@NathanOsman But then I'll just look like every idiot stylish iPhone 7 user who wants to use headphones
 
@NathanOsman or just have something that's in my phone
plus i want wireless charging for a reason, Nathan.
Namely I have a very nice end table with a builtin charging surface.
 
Sounds better than my 8 USB cables.
 
just plop the phone down at night, pick it up in the morning
nice and easy
@Zacharee1 But I bet I can perform the fabled quadruple ping!
 
u 'avin a laugh m8
 
Yes.
 
1:21 AM
o ok
HOWDY EVERYONE
HOWSABOUT SOME CLOSE VOTES
 
how about Σπ
 
neh
 
@Serg SP?
 
@Zacharee1 sum pie ?
 
ohhh
that's a Pi?
 
1:33 AM
Sigma is sum, pi is . . . pi
 
it does not look like one
And I've never actually learned the name of a Sigma
 
yep, it is pi, but chat font makes it look like russian p letter
 
I thought it was Russian
 
да
 
привет
yeah, it does look about the same
 
1:38 AM
@Serg All that for Hi?
 
πп
 
gosh i could use my gym membership about right now and go to steam room or use spa, but i ain't got my gym stuff with me
 
false
one is wider
 
@Zacharee1 yup
English and Chinese are far simpler : two chars for simple greeting
 
@KazWolfe actually, they look exactly the same here
 
1:39 AM
你好
 
try writing that out on paper
 
easy if you know the strokes
 
hi in english: four strokes
hi in chinese: 829183 strokes
 
your counter is off, because that's 11 actually
 
4 < 11
english hi is still simpler
 
1:41 AM
and if you know how to cut corners, that goes down to 7
 
4 < 7
 
sure, but closer than in russian
What i do like the most is the chinese names
3 words, simple, short
sometimes even two
 
kaz: 5 strokes in english
how many in chinese?
 
4 strokes on hi?
what's the 4th?
h+i+<enter>?
 
he counted 2 in h
 
1:43 AM
^
some people do it that way, so.
 
no, i'm talking about handwriting, not about the keystrokes
 
ooooh, I got it now
 
lol
 
actually i write kaz in 4 strokes, but i can do it in 3 so....
 
hi is two strokes, depending on how you count
 
1:45 AM
the dot counts as its own stroke.
 
well, hi can be shortened to 2 strokes if you write h and i without removing hand from paper for first stroke and 2nd for dash above i
 
then kaz is one stroke :P
as is almost anything else
ah, to be a broke college student.
it sucks
 
alright, hI
 
i wish there was more time to rest and study. The schedule that i have , i thought it's gonna work out, but nope
still crap
if i pass tomorrow's exam, at least I'll get further than last semester
 
oh that's right
i have two exams tomorrow.
goddamnit
 
1:53 AM
o_O
so you do have school
 
yay, college student's life
 
it's worse when you're broke
 
oh snap I just got an email from my superintendent (the boss) that he is retiring effective January 9th, 2017
 
All hail king @TheXed.
 
technically i am broke, living with parents
 
1:54 AM
@Zacharee1 yeah but i still do network stuff there because idgaf
 
@NathanOsman I am not the king, nor have no desire...
 
@Serg Ramen from Costco broke?
 
@KazWolfe That's not broke. That's destitute.
 
@KazWolfe well, i have some income, which is enough for gas and hamburgers
 
(also, tf apple, it would be nice if you at least had the dignity to respond to my job posting)
 
1:55 AM
not enough to support myself tho
 
@KazWolfe lol, it's Apple
 
yeah well. dignity.
 
UNIQUITY IS A WORD!!!!
 
Yay, my SMTP server library works! \o/
 
I think Ubuntu passes my google spell checker too, but can't remember
 
2:05 AM
> need job to waste money on things
 
2:20 AM
yay hacktoberfest shirt!
 
procrastinating by writing python code . . .
i'm the worst
 
@Serg looks like our school district is going to have a position opening up...
It pays well too...
 
@TheXed hold on, packing my bags'n'coming to IL
 
@Serg you need to get your school administration degree first though...
 
adammit
Meanwhile , I procrastinated by adding an unmount button to my udisks-indicator
Nothing really exciting there, the option will call zenity dialog with drop down list of non-root partitions for unmounting. If there's nothing else besides root mounted, that option doesn't show up
 
2:42 AM
Oh...your a bottom unity launcher guy too?
 
yeah. it's kind of faster to slide touchpad up or down
although i am not a big fan it
launcher on the left looks cooler
 
@Terrance - Looks like the OP liked my answer. Have you been able to test yet? If not, no rush :)
 
launcher on the left is best for 16:9 pixel maps
 
facebook is ff4cking idiots
i'm trying to recover my password , they give me popup saying "You must log in, enter password"
 
facebook is for girls to show off faces and guys to vote on how hot they are.
well in the beginning... then at half life it was for parents to check on kids and pretend to be "hip"
at EOL facebook will die due to boredom with virtual reality and inundated by advertising and censorship which become necessary evils in big brother society.
 
2:51 AM
@Serg when you moving in?
 
@Serg what do you think about my weekend project: askubuntu.com/questions/841810/…
 
@Serg you can share the basement with my sister-in-law
 
@TheXed I just pinged your mother-in-law and told her to move in with her two daughters.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix then where am I going to live?
 
@TheXed You'll live there too, but it will be renamed "Hell"
You'll have three women to say "don't forget to take out the garbage" in harmony.
 
2:57 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix thanks now I am going to have nightmares tonight
 
what's that a female horse vampire?
night mare = female horse that only comes out at night.
if it could fly it would be called pegasus
That new Philippines president is interesting.
 
@Serg I'm just pinging you because everybody else is.
 
3:12 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix seems interesting
 
@KazWolfe quid pro quo
Thanks Serg!
 
@TheXed ain't got money to move
@KazWolfe thanks, i missed you too, buddy
 
It is cheap to move, just pack up that car put some gas in, and start driving
 
what if he doesn't have a car?
 
he has a car
 
3:17 AM
yeah but it doesn't use gasoline it runs on python
 
so when is canonical gonna make a HoloLens?
 
I know you want me to say "What's a HoloLens?" but I'm not going to do it.... I'll be stubborn and google it
 
no i wasn't waiting for that.
 
O.o python car ? that might actually be a thingy. There was a guy on the news who made self driving car with Ubuntu
 
or when magicleap stops teasing us
@Serg that sounds like what my car will be eventually
 
3:21 AM
What did he call the car? "Arch"?
Anyways google will have the self-driving car market wrapped up. Ubuntu couldn't challenge them on smartphone market, google won with Android. Google will win with self-driving cars with TV's inside playing adds, Car skins that displays adds to passer-bys and will probably drive occupants against their will past bill-boards out of the way.
 
and then we get the hackers
"oh, are you routing me to an ad? nah. you're gonna do what I say."
 
I have Ad Block plus installed in Chrome... I guess they'll install Bill-Board Block in their google car.
 
@Serg that guys name was
eric schmidt
 
nah, just Ubuntu Car.
then Amazon can track us
 
It's all fantasy. They can't program a fish to swim or a tree to grow.... They couldn't even program an ant to leave a trail of phermones and find it's way home. Hell they can't even program a train and it doesn't even need to turn.
Do you honestly believe they can program a car to think as smart as a human to drive a car?
When google makes too much money they spend it on self-driving cars. When Tesla motors has too much money Mr. Musk Mars Missions pop up.
 
3:33 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Yes, the SkyTrain proves that quite nicely.
 
Oh tthat Coquitlam thing... never rode it but drove under it.
 
Well, I was referring to the frequent problems that would shut down part of the line.
Switches malfunctioning, trains losing signal, etc.
 
Doesn't the line run from Coquitlam to greater Vancouver?
 
The Expo line goes from Surrey to downtown and the Millennium Line goes through Coquitlam and Burnaby.
They added the Canada line in 2009 connecting the airport, downtown and Richmond.
But the trains are different than the rest of the line.
 
we can teach trees to grow
 
3:37 AM
Kaz can start by talking to plants :D
 
no, just cut the tree where it grows wrong.
 
That's not teaching.
This has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about, but this looks cool:
I want one of those for the living room.
 
Hudson's bay had a much smaller fake birch tree with far fewer lights for 300 bucks I almost choked.
It's curious Jill Stienman never said to vote for her because she's a woman.
It's amazing the American media never realized the fact she's a woman and voting for her would be ending woman's suffarage.
poof
 
3:54 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I believe it's Jill Stein, but excellent point.
 
what are we blaming now?
 
EVERYTHING.
 
good, because i'm going to blame MagicLeap.
I want my AR headset to do things ;-;
 
@NathanOsman look what I got today -^
 
Nice!
Noticing that the gear has a bigger impact? (Bursters, etc.?)
 
4:04 AM
@NathanOsman definitely.
Especially bursters.
 
Wait until level 8 then >:)
Those things are massive.
 
I imagine! (you level 8?)
 
Nope, I'm level 10.
 
Nice! I didn't realize you played so much :)
 
I don't much now, though I open it once in a while.
I used it a lot when I was working downtown.
 
4:06 AM
I've only just started paying any attention to it at all.
 
If I timed things right, I could collect a ton of stuff on the train ride down and back.
 
@NathanOsman Ah, yeah.
There's an insane amount of community down here. Planning 2AM raids and everything..
 
I've almost got the onyx recharger badge. (25m XM)
 
Wow, that's sweet!
 
Have you ever been to a park or somewhere that had a whole bunch of portals in a small area that you could farm and link?
 
4:12 AM
yup, my college counts. That's how I got to a level 5 so quickly.
I went up 2 levels (from 3 to 5) in 6 weeks.
 
Nice.
 
5:06 AM
SETH NOOO
;;;-;;;
filthy resistance corrupting our world.
(though why do i even care anymore, i've stopped playing after a couple ... incidents with the local community)
 
5:57 AM
morning
is it on-topic? askubuntu.com/questions/841874/notepad-in-ubuntu because the answer requires the knowledge of windows software only imo
why don't we a have low qualify flag for old answers?
 
I say okay.
 
we are supposed to not use that flag... I guess if the post were that bad, it should have been caught in review?
 
we can use LQ flag for new answers. So, why not old answers?
 
@Anwar yeah... now I'm understanding that meta post about whether running software in wine is on-topic... seems sort of off topic to me too
@Anwar like I said, my guess is that it should have been caught earlier if it were that bad
 
@Zanna the devs might have thought same. but there can be exceptions. It's not guaranteed that all LQ will be caught
 
6:06 AM
true, but I can't think of another reason
I never use that flag
 
installing npp in wine
 
6:19 AM
HAH! Who wants to bet Samsung is going to sue Apple for patent copying?
And of course nobody's going to ban iPhones even though you should now because they're blowing up too.
 
some say that could be a political game made by Samsung
 
The iSheep in those comments omfg lol
 
someone wants to know if their hardware is tested and can be answered only by a user who owns such device. on topic? askubuntu.com/q/841880/61218
@KazWolfe iSheep?
 
I think he means people who will buy anything from Apple...
@Anwar the things you do for AU...
 
hey, i have NPP
NPP is good. I like it too much to leave it behind.
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6:26 AM
@KazWolfe then let me know if you can type other languages on it. Indian scripts for example
 
um.
let me see.
 
I'm dealing with a missing phone :(
But it aint my phone..
 
nope, @Anwar, or at least not OOTB
 
and some more ToS changes...
woops
misclicked star
 
wouldn't it depend on having Telugu installed in your system?
 
6:31 AM
i'd think just font.
 
Time to run my speedup script
 
@KazWolfe ah. Thank you. anything other than Latin script? I mean can you type other European scripts?
 
@Anwar gimme an example?
 
For example French
 
yeah i see chars
 
6:33 AM
I randomly typed some telegu letters. copy paste in notepad ಔರಗಹಿ what do you see?
 
but that's still Latin
 
tofu?
 
i see blocks in NPP but telegu in chrome
 
good. same here
I found the encoding menu. It only supports some languages
:33133979 in npp? are you in windows?
 
not encoding, this is font i think
 
6:36 AM
oh. so another question. Does wine use my ubuntu fonts ?
 
yep
 
@Anwar yummy
 
@Anwar no just being an idiot :)
 
@Anwar Different font.
 
@KazWolfe hmm... so it's only a font issue
@Edity what's up?
 
6:39 AM
@anwar tofu is yummy
lol
 
true...
 
@Edity notofu is the answer
@Zanna ?
@KazWolfe which font it was?
 
one of the script fonts, idk which one exactly
 
@Anwar >:( You are a disgrase to the tofus. Prepare to be processed into Tofu
 
something from the noto sans family
 
6:40 AM
noto kills tofu
 
@Anwar I didn't paste it anywhere, I was just admiring it here!
 
OH GOD NO WHY
YOUTUBE NO
 
yeah! the answer is found!
is it?
 
@Anwar I think that's OT, we usually kill such questions...
 
@Zanna I miss "too localized" option
 
6:47 AM
@Anwar yeah...
 
@Anwar too localized?
 
a close option existed in past... removed now
 
I don't see that on the list of CV types
 
I think it's sort of covered by no-repro
 
yeah, i don't see too localized as ever existing ;-;
 
6:48 AM
yeah. but people are using POB!
@KazWolfe I'll find you one
 
uh, guys, i'm having a bit of problem with netstat here
 
well... I can view Bengali in npp. but not telegu. even after selecting noto sans telegu! weird!
 
$ netstat
/bin/mksh: /bin/netstat: Input/output error
 
those are hackers!
but that's weird one. your hard drive may be weird, which is the only explanation i have for an IO error
 
my hard-drive . . .which is actually an ssd drive, is perfectly fine
ping also got error
 
6:52 AM
reboot?
 
$ ping -c 4 8.8.8.8
/bin/mksh: /bin/ping: Input/output error
 
I'd restart
 
wireshark first
uh . . . .same error
reboot it is then
sigh
 
@kaz can you check if this makes sense? askubuntu.com/a/446492/61218
 
um.
i think key types did change?
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ДМИТРИЙ МАЛИКОВIs there a way to convert existing pair of OpenSSH keys to the SSH2 (ssh.com format) pair of keys? UPD: since there are some answers about ssh-keygen suddenly appeared, I'll explain where I came from (also it will be a nice answer on "what have you tried?"). $> diff --report-identical-files <(...

 
6:58 AM
Thanks. is it a helpful answer? is there any room to improve?
 
yeah, explain how and better terminology
i'd write a better answer altogether instead of trying to fix that one
 
Nice!
 
do you want me to do that or will you?
 

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