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I installed from here: 01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/… This version: Graphics Installer 1.4.0 for Ubuntu* 15.10, 64-bit I have Intel Graphics 2xxx — KillerDoge 6 mins ago

Zacharee1

yes

Android Dev

That's a comment, on

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Q: Minecraft constantly crahsing, Java 8 OPENJDK

after I installed Minecraft, I installed Java, and then I launched my game on 1.10.2 and I even tryed 1.10 My crash log: ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Don't do that. Time: 7/28/16 7:10 PM Description: Initializing game java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at bcx.ar(SourceFile:624) ...

Zacharee1

01 provides graphics drivers for Intel

Nathan Osman

5:19 PM

@AndroidDev I'm here.

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 But doesn't Ubuntu include Intel drivers by default?

Zacharee1

they have drivers yes

but sometimes Intel has problems

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 And 01 are better?

Zacharee1

if you need them they're something to try

edwinksl

@AndroidDev note that OP doesn't even need to try the intel installer

Android Dev

5:24 PM

@edwinksl I don't understand.

edwinksl

what do you not understand?

Android Dev

@edwinksl Your previous message.

edwinksl

look at the comments in the post you linked

Rinzwind

\o

Android Dev

@edwinksl Oh :P

Rinzwind

5:30 PM

vague askubuntu.com/questions/804130/…

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind I think he's trying to use the GNOME Gmail app

Rinzwind

could be :-P

Android Dev

@Rinzwind - Dupe: askubuntu.com/questions/804131/dual-boot-with-windows-10

Rinzwind

done

Byte Commander

5:47 PM

@AndroidDev askubuntu.com/questions/797392/…

Internal links on Ask Ubuntu would be preferrable.

Otherwise you risk getting it flagged as link only...

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander that doesn't qualify for LOA

because the link doesn't answer the question

the answer answers the question, suggests to do something else, and then links to instructions for that something else

it would be better to use an AU or SE link though

Byte Commander

yeah, but still...

grooveplex

@Zanna this is the traceroute game in one line: echo $(traceroute please.com | wc -l) - 1 | bc

requires traceroute: sudo apt-get install traceroute -y

Zacharee1

what's that

grooveplex

The Traceroute Game

Most hops wins :)

I invented it just today

Zacharee1

5:51 PM

lol

grooveplex

BAM!

I got a score of 30

Zacharee1

why does it need the echo?

grooveplex

Because with echo it will output the amount of lines and then substract 1 with bc

I can golf this

Zacharee1

12

grooveplex

It depends on your location??

Zacharee1

5:55 PM

uh

wat

grooveplex

How many hops

Thomas Ward

666

Zacharee1

I guess?

@ThomasWard DEEVIL

Thomas Ward

:P

grooveplex

What does echo $(traceroute spam.com | tail -n +2 | wc -l) give you?

edwinksl

5:56 PM

what a surprise! 666 here too!

grooveplex

For me it's 30

lmao

Thomas Ward

@grooveplex 666. 'cuase this is a system within a system within a system within a system within a... four hours later ...system, within a system, then through five network hops and out to the 'net.

grooveplex

@ThomasWard I see...

Thomas Ward

yawns, and goes back to the flags queue

o/ @Seth

Seth

\o

grooveplex

5:59 PM

o/

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Does anyone here know the quickest way to get 406 reps?

edwinksl

write good answers?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

legally

Thomas Ward

write good questions and answers.

Zacharee1

@HenryWHHackv2.0 writing good answers is legal

at least, I hope it is o_O

Henry WH Hack v2.0

6:05 PM

No I'm to scaried to ask a question or answer a question.

Thomas Ward

@HenryWHHackv2.0 Write and post good questions and answers. Only true way to get reputation of any amount.

@HenryWHHackv2.0 Then there is no way to achieve your desired rep level.

Zacharee1

he's trying to get 1k on security.se

@ThomasWard thee!

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 Indeed. He still has to post good questions and answers either way.

Zacharee1

yeah

Thomas Ward

no way around it

Zacharee1

6:06 PM

@HenryWHHackv2.0 create security holes and then ask how to block them

Rinzwind

create a browser with loads of security holes. call it "the most secure browser ever" and sit back and watch >:-D

Zacharee1

xD

edwinksl

didn't we call that IE

Zacharee1

^

I was gonna say, just reskin IE 6

Rinzwind

Oh now I got a name

Improved IE

Zacharee1

6:12 PM

@Rinzwind IIE

edwinksl

I^2E, classic

Rinzwind

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE >-D

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@The Mods so me the way to 1000,000 reps!

Zacharee1

that's a nonexistent number

edwinksl

that is basically 1000 to a german

Rinzwind

6:20 PM

@HenryWHHackv2.0 answer enough q's so your rep floats to 200. wait for the rep counter to reset and do the same. At some point you will need to answer 1 or 2 q's a day to reach 200.

500 days later: 100k

edwinksl

math checks out

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Someone remote into my pc and answer a question for me.

Rinzwind

@HenryWHHackv2.0 fake gps :-) works for pokemon go too

Android Dev

Has anyone seen @Videonauth lately?

Videonauth

@AndroidDev sure :p

Android Dev

6:27 PM

@Videonauth Hi!

Rinzwind

@AndroidDev I did!

Android Dev

@Rinzwind :P

Rinzwind

@Videonauth hey someone is askig about you1

edwinksl

@Videonauth you are a professional lurker

Android Dev

@edwinksl Uhh.... yeah!

Rinzwind

6:27 PM

@edwinksl a plurker? >:-D

@edwinksl think so

dino!

omg dino

@edwinksl aww why, I'm just cleaning up here at my flat, preparing for the day after tomorrow

Android Dev

@Videonauth Just wanted to let you know that I've been updating alot more regularly after that whole ordeal...

Use bullets people! askubuntu.com/questions/804142/ubuntu-16-screen-problem

jokerdino

6:30 PM

Say no to bullets. Embrace peace and flowers.

4

Android Dev

@jokerdino :P

Rinzwind

Aim for the stars, not people!

4

Android Dev

@jokerdino - OK, use bullet points people!

Thomas Ward

@jokerdino Say no to bullets. Say yes to the Dark Magics.

:P

Android Dev

@ThomasWard Only mods can do that :(

Thomas Ward

6:34 PM

@AndroidDev and those who are above even the mods too

:P

Android Dev

@ThomasWard SE employees?

jokerdino

@ThomasWard Be a wololo priest

Android Dev

@ThomasWard - Question: Why doesn't my name show there: askubuntu.com/questions/804131/dual-boot-with-windows-10

Rinzwind

@AndroidDev you was #6 :)

Android Dev

@Rinzwind Eh?

Thomas Ward

6:36 PM

@AndroidDev you didn't flag it / close vote it before I closed it off

jokerdino

@AndroidDev you didnt close vote. Just flagged it

Rinzwind

@AndroidDev only 1st few that CV are shown

Android Dev

@ThomasWard I most definitely did flag it.

edwinksl

need 3k rep to actually vote to close

Android Dev

@edwinksl Oh.

Thomas Ward

6:37 PM

@AndroidDev flags aren't close votes though

Rinzwind

flag <> CV

Thomas Ward

@Rinzwind you have to Close Vote to show in the list

flags just poke mods and mods exercise the Evils

Android Dev

@ThomasWard Just need a few more "repz" as @Rinzwind says :)

NAA: askubuntu.com/questions/742328/…

Zanna

haha DESTROYYYYYED

jokerdino

?

Barely made it really.

Thomas Ward

6:43 PM

@jokerdino squishing the evils :p

jokerdino

squeeze the evil out of you.

Oh noes, it's midnight.

Thomas Ward

grrr updates via a proxy are evil

slow as heck.

jokerdino

I will continue my lurking duties tomorrow.

Zanna

sweet dreams :)

Mateo

7:05 PM

@Rinzwind but then they come down and hit people anyway... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire

Zacharee1

I don't think there's a problem here askubuntu.com/questions/804160/…

Byte Commander

unclear askubuntu.com/q/804162/367990

Rinzwind

:)

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Wait Ubuntu switched to apt instead of apt-get. :O

Zanna

shiny shiny apt

Henry WH Hack v2.0

7:19 PM

So no more apt-get just apt?

Zacharee1

apt-get is still there

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Zacharee1 I know and that's good! :)

Zanna

you can still use apt-get. apt is just a fancy new interface than combines apt-get and apt-cache and adds some colours, easy-reading line breaks, stuff like that

Zacharee1

then why did you ask?

@Zanna oh that's what it is?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Zacharee1 I just wanted to know if I was using an out dated command.

Zacharee1

7:21 PM

well you are

Zanna

that's my understanding... like instead of apt-cache search gimp do apt search gimp -same info (I think), looks better

seems you need to use apt-get (with -q) though if you want to redirect the output for some reason, apt will warn you that its interface is 'not stable'

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Q: What is the difference between apt and apt-get?

I read about the new fancy progress bar which was added to apt 1.0 in Softpedia and how to enable it here. However on running sudo apt-get update, I did not see the fancy progress bars. On reading the second link again, the solution explicitly requires you to use sudo apt update. Hence my questi...

apt

Zacharee1

7:43 PM

I have 7223 rep

I need someone to upvote one of my questions and give me an answer to downvote :p

Zanna

you can safely downvote this naa askubuntu.com/a/804141/527764

but it will get deleted quick haha

some here maybe askubuntu.com/questions/15433/…

Zacharee1

yay

Zanna

(please don't reciprocate - I got 215 & already lost 45 to the SE bitbucket today)

Zacharee1

haha

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Q: Does snappy packaging make a convenient, portable, offline MediaWiki possible (say, on a thumb drive)?

I LOVE MediaWiki, and would love to have one as a personal wiki solution on a thumb drive. There seem to be solutions for this on Windows, via XAMP. But from what I can tell, linux does not allow this. Now that snaps are here, I am wondering if they make such a technology more accessible. How d...

usb-drive ubuntu-core mediawiki

...

Zanna

since you've got your screenshot ima upvote your answer to your own question as well

Zacharee1

7:55 PM

yay

Byte Commander

Huh? How comes that Braiam is suspended again? He was put in the penalty box another time for a week just a few days ago...

Zanna

(because both totally upvote worthy)

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander o_O

Byte Commander

Braiam, Dominican Republic

1 16 88 152

apt software-installation package-management command-line dpkg upgrade boot

edwinksl

@ByteCommander again? it seems it is the same suspension though

Zacharee1

7:57 PM

@Zanna thx :D

@edwinksl maybe extended

Byte Commander

No, I am sure he was back again afterwards.

Zacharee1

they won't tell us anything though :p

maybe he has to work

edwinksl

@ByteCommander really? that's interesting. i thought his 1-week suspension started 4 days ago

so 3 days left sounds correct to me

Zacharee1

last activity was the 24th

so yeah

Byte Commander

hmmm...

user136984

8:06 PM

@ByteCommander: I thought he was a reasonably respectable member, what's he got himself banned for?

Zacharee1

we donz no

user136984

I guess we could ask him when he returns...

edwinksl

sounds like drama to me, i will tune in

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

8:32 PM

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Q: Every morning I must Start Zorin[Ubuntu] 14.04 x64 twice to stay in GUI desktop

Every morning I boot to the point of seeing a slight glimpse of the desktop only for the machine to go through a full shutdown. Then, the second time I boot it goes fully to GUI desktop and all is fine for the rest of 14 hours.....including reboots, shutdowns and startups, every day. Cleaning ou...

ubuntu shutdown reboot

Zacharee1

Wow

user136984

Anyone know how to check if a file exists in Java? Is there a special method in a class to do it or do you just have to check exceptions?

user136984

Ah! Found the answer! :)

user136984

795

A: How do I check if a file exists in Java?

Using java.io.File: File f = new File(filePathString); if(f.exists() && !f.isDirectory()) { // do something }

user136984

Is there a keyboard shortcut in Firefox to change tabs does anyone know?

Zacharee1

8:40 PM

does ctrl numkey not work?

or ctrl tab to cycle

edwinksl

ctrl tab or ctrl pageup/down

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Awesonium Linux C# System.DllNotFoundException: Could not locate the path to the native Awesomium library

I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and the Awesomium Web Browser C# Framework as well as Mono 4.4.2 with the environment variable MONO_PATH set to /usr/lib/mono/4.5 and the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to /home/frankc/EnvironmentX64/Hybrid/Debug. In the directory folder /home/frankc/Environ...

ubuntu mono c#

user136984

@Zacharee1: You are right with the second one.

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Is that your place? Sounds dangerous...

Zacharee1

yep

edwinksl

8:56 PM

that seems par for the course for PA during summer though :P

Sorry

hi guys

@Serg Hello! :)

@HenryWHHackv2.0 hi there , how's it going ?

Byte Commander

Sergy!

:)

Rinzwind

9:01 PM

Sergy!

Serg

@NathanOsman or @ThomasWard , question about python practices : So , I've discovered that adding leading underscore hides a function from pydoc. Hence the question , is it proper to do def _main(): just to avoid documenting that function ? Or should I leave it

Byte Commander

Holy cow, what a wall of unformatted text! askubuntu.com/q/804196/367990

Serg

@ByteCommander @Rinzwind looks like yall missed me . Well guess what, I missed you too Squeezes everybody in a hug

Byte Commander

squeezed

Rinzwind

@Serg I've been busy huntng pokemon :+)

Serg

9:03 PM

@Rinzwind how's the hunting going ? Caught any special ones ?

I haven't slept today . . . fixing my bio clock . . .

Also, shredding tons and tons of paper

Nathan Osman

@Serg Prefixing a function or method with an underscore is a way of denoting that it is intended to be private, or more specifically, that it is not part of a public ABI.

Byte Commander

The only Pokémon game I ever played is Pokémon Silver for good old GameBoy Color...

That were times...

@Serg sudo shred /home/*

Serg

@NathanOsman so that's a no . . . .it's intended only for API and not for simple scripts , correcto ?

user136984

Well, my Japanese course is going really well!

Rinzwind

@Serg need a good eevee. I have all the candies I need _O-4

Serg

9:06 PM

@ParanoidPanda konbawa , Panda samma

user136984

I don't really know much Kanji yet, but I know all of Hiragana, and mostly all of Katakana. But in terms of the spoken language I'm doing really well.

Byte Commander

@Serg Python does not have public/protected/private but prefixes names with one or two underscores.

user136984

@Serg: こんばんわ

Byte Commander

_name has no technical meaning but is a hint for the developer that this method is not part of the public API and should not be used in external modules because its implementation might change etc etc.

user136984

Seems there is no Kanji for that...

Serg

9:07 PM

@ByteCommander yup, know that. I am more concerned with documentation and just making it pretty ( by hiding junk that i don't wanna document )

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda - is one = is two >:-D

user136984

Or is Anthy just missing it?

Byte Commander

__name actually performs some name mangling and therefore practically hides the name for foreign modules.

But in real it just renames it by prefixing it with the module name IIRC.

user136984

It's strange, I haven't yet received the email from ubuntu-release about the EOL of 15.10...

user136984

Maybe they have forgotten?

Byte Commander

9:09 PM

@Serg Don't be lazy. And if you're lazy, stand to it.

That reminds me of this:

user136984

They seem to be forgetting a lot lately... They even just sent round an email to say that they almost forgot about the Alpha 2 milestone and only remembered at the last minute because a flavour emailed to say it would also participate...

Rinzwind

@andrew.46 noooooooo dont delete it. we posted it at the same time :D

almost at 200 <3

Serg

Welp , if I will gather enough energy today ( which has nothing to do with lazines ) I might even update both README.md files and tag each indicator with release

Rinzwind

what do you mean "if"?

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander I used to write comments like that :D

Serg

9:12 PM

I haven't slept today in order to reset my bio clock, so my mental capacity is low today , hence "if"

Rinzwind

@NathanOsman I never did. when someone asked me I always said: the function name IS the documentation

Serg

@NathanOsman question : Is Django worth learning for finding a python-related job ?

Rinzwind

@Serg it does not hurt :)

Serg

Ok, might as well have it as a side learning task . . . My objective however is to get into "marketable" shape and fast, like within year or year and half

Aside from my bash and python stuff, with only surface knowledge of Java and some C 101 , I don't have that much to show, so need to get some skillz to shoff

Byte Commander

@Serg the experts about that should be setting there: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/6/python

edwinksl

9:17 PM

oh i see sergy in python chat

and byte too

Rinzwind

@Serg I general I would advice also javascript and maybe perl.

Serg

I'm gonna lurk there a little bit . . .

Javascript in general in demand, i know that much . . . @Rinzwind anything specific about perl ? any specific area ?

Byte Commander

@edwinksl I'm lurking there most time. Just not talking much.

edwinksl

@ByteCommander speak up! need to spread ubuntu there too

Byte Commander

:D

edwinksl

9:19 PM

those noobs are probably using osx or some crap

Byte Commander

Apropos, something creepy happened today on Windows 10...

Rinzwind

@Serg no but from what I see where I work and chat with other dutch coders perl is used more than python though there is not a lot in it

Byte Commander

(not that W10 itself wouldn't be creepy already)

Rinzwind

perl and python are pretty much interchangeable :P

just knowing the basics on perl will help :)

Byte Commander

But apparently right during a game of WoT, Skype upgraded and launched itself and even popped up and stole focus.

edwinksl

9:20 PM

@ByteCommander let me guess: you still won?

Byte Commander

It wasn'T even running, just acted totally on itself.

Serg

@ByteCommander thats' skype's way of saying "I've upgraded, Notice me sempai !!!"

Rinzwind

@ByteCommander that's MS for you <:)

Byte Commander

No idea, probably I got nuked, like most times...

@Serg They just wanted to make sure I see the ads they ship with often enough I guess...

Serg

Of course ! It's their money

Rinzwind

9:22 PM

sigh I need one more question to answer :P

yes easy rep: askubuntu.com/questions/804206/error-installation-on-gr-gsm/…

edwinksl

@Rinzwind upboated

Serg

Welp , I eventually will pickup Perl. Knowing another language never hurts. I'm more curious about what can learn to start getting out there. I mean , it's gotta start happening. The time is limited

Rinzwind

@edwinksl 205 <3 you did that

edwinksl

so time to catch pokemon amirite

Rinzwind

nah I am done for today.

Byte Commander

9:26 PM

@Rinzwind only about half of that today for me...

Serg

I'm on the opposite end - got downvoted today actually, -2

Byte Commander

I'd love to move the points I lost due to rep cap from yesterday over.

Is anybody in here using Discord btw?

Nathan Osman

@Serg Sorry for the late reply. Yes.

My Django skills actually helped me get a Python job once.

Of course, that wasn't the only thing but they specifically mentioned Django during the interview.

Rinzwind

bedtime! see you 2morrows

Serg

Sleep well

Byte Commander

9:33 PM

night Rinzy.

edwinksl

@ByteCommander yet another person who tries to uninstall python...

Serg

can I yell at them please ?

Byte Commander

Feel free.

Serg

takes out loudspeaker and rotten tomatoes . . . .

andrew.46

@Rinzwind Okay :). I thought you were a little ahgead of me....

ahead

Nathan Osman

9:46 PM

I'm talking with someone who is consistently seeing 1300-1500ms ping times on their Mac. Does anyone have suggestions?

Byte Commander

@Serg Wanna look at askubuntu.com/q/804211/367990 ?

Nathan Osman

It seems to be limited specifically to the computer(s) since other devices on the network obtain full speed.

We tried resetting the PRAM and reconnecting - no luck.

Byte Commander

Compared network settings and traceroutes?

Thomas Ward

@Serg Not sure if you got an answer, but as @NathanOsman said, it's a way to define a private function that is local only to that class or python file/module

Nathan Osman

Rule of thumb: if you want other third-party code using the function / method, don't prefix it with an underscore. If not, use one.

@ByteCommander Keep in mind I'm assisting this person from a few hundred miles away, so I can't easily run a bunch of commands :)

I had them run a speed test from the terminal a few times.

The speeds varied wildly but ping was consistently high.

Byte Commander

9:50 PM

Hm. And other devices connected to the same router dont have these issues?

IS there any proxy/VPN configured?

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman yep.

@NathanOsman Case in point would be like my custom _exit() function in here: gist.github.com/teward/af8feed8668bed17332490000c2971b5

or more better

one of the dozen or so libraries in which private functions exist solely within that thing, for different actions, with individual set/get/return functions that call those

Serg

Sorry, was reading that question.

Thomas Ward

so the actual "setting" or interaction with data is kept away and not callable from other scripts

(that is foobar.baz() would call class Foobar's _baz() function that does some interaction with a property or such, and baz would return _baz(), which in turn returned something after execution)

there's a lot of different cases, but Nathan's spot on

if you don't want any other code outside the function / .py file you write the function into to access it, prefix with an underscore

Serg

@NathanOsman I'm usually just writing simple scripts. I don't have like super duper API or anything like that. And i am just currious if i can do that only to remove a function from the pydoc, that's all.

Nathan Osman

If you're not exposing a public ABI, you don't need underscores at all, really.

Thomas Ward

9:54 PM

@Serg The question is if you need to reference that function from another script.

also, what Nathan said.

Serg

Nope, the script is standalone

OK , that's all i needed to know . . .

No API, just simple junk that does one specific task

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman API