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5:06 PM

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Oh my, this is not for me... :/

user136984

When something gets at least 3 downvotes it goes sort of greyed out, does it show like this for all users, or do only users with certain rep actually see that the answer is there?

Ingrid

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Cool though, thanks for the suggestion :)

user136984

@Serg: Was it you who said you might look into making a script for this by the way? :)

Serg

@ParanoidPanda oh, i've already forgotten about this :) Thanks for reminding

So you want it in TTY only right ? . . . because in GUI . . .you can just use regular pdf readers

user136984

@Serg: Yeah, that's right, CLI only.

Serg

5:15 PM

@ParanoidPanda OK . . . I'll put together little something, show you later

Well . . . . like couple days later. . . right now need to take care of my homework and stuff

user136984

@Serg: Sounds good! Thanks! :)

user139252

@Zacharee1 You might want see if you can transfer your domain to my CloudFlare account.

user139252

That, or you can provide me with your CloudFlare API key

kos

Ideas for a cool simple GUI application to develop? I'm trying to learn PyGObject, but I would like to make something useful at the same time.

Serg

PIC18 is driving me NUTZ

@kos why don't you participate in that question about random math questions ?

kos

5:22 PM

@Serg The one you and Jacob Vlijm answered already? Hmmm.

Serg

Yeah . . . I've supposed to edit mine to turn it into single - window, but kinda got stuck . . . .I lack time recently

kos

Hmmm I think another answer to that one would necessarily be at least a half-duplicate.

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne how would I find the latter?

user139252

@Zacharee1 By going into your account settings

user139252

I'm writing a script that uses the CloudFlare API to update DNS records if my IP ever changes

Zacharee1

5:30 PM

Found it

Should I email it?

user139252

Got the form email, thanks :D

user139252

I'm just trying to figure out how to clean up this output to get what I need...

cl-netbox

Hello :)

Byte Commander

Close 15.04 Q askubuntu.com/q/731293/367990

@cl-netbox Hey! o/

user139252

Don't even try to read this.

cl-netbox

5:36 PM

@ByteCommander Hello my friend - how are you ? :)

Byte Commander

@cl-netbox Cool, I'm just starting to check out screeps.com

That's a multiplayer real-time online game where you control your units with JavaScript.

Seems like a nice idea to improve my JS skills :)

Serg

I don't know what to do with it . . . pisses me so much off . . . .

cl-netbox

@ByteCommander You need improvement ? I cannot believe this ! :)

user139252

I first need to pull the content of the first "content" field and compare it to the output of another function that gives me my current address. Then, I need to pull the different ID fields for each domain and load them into separate curl -X POST functions

Byte Commander

I may be good at Python, but this doesn't have anything to do with JavaScript, which I need for my current internship. Oh, and there's always space for improvements. :)

Anyway, it's a game, and there's always time for a game, right?

Serg

5:41 PM

@ByteCommander use your python skills to write javascript interpreter or something XD

Byte Commander

:)

cl-netbox

Hi @Serg ! How are you today my friend ? :)

Serg

@cl-netbox energetic, but somewhat frustrated with my PICDEM board. No matter how I try, I cannot make serial conneciton to it form Ubuntu, but from Windows it works

cl-netbox

@Serg How is this possible ?

Serg

@cl-netbox I don't know . . . .regular serial cable moves cursor , but no text , chars invisible. USB doesn't move at all

cl-netbox

5:47 PM

@Serg strange ... very strange ... :)

Serg

and from hexdump i know that under regular serial cable, bytes are transmitted . . . but interpreted in wrong sequence. . . .

user139252

@Serg if I paste something that I'm doing that's absolutely crazy, could you figure out how to clean it up?

user139252

It's using your favorite things, sed and awk :P

Serg

@TheBrownOne OK, try me :)

user139252

Let me get it all into a paste

Zacharee1

5:49 PM

I'm so happy! I've got +16 on my answer

cl-netbox

@TheBrownOne : Hi Heather ! How are you ? :)

user139252

Good, and you? @cl-netbox

user136984

I forked a repo, fixed a problem, and made a pull request, but what do I do with my forked version now? Can I just delete it?

cl-netbox

@TheBrownOne everything fine so far - thank you ! :)

@Zacharee1 WOW ... great ... Hello to you ! :)

user136984

That is, on Github...

Serg

5:51 PM

After working for some time in the only lab in the whole building, i figured out one thing. NO MATTER, HOW LARGE THE SIGN IS THAT CLASS IS IN SESSION . . . .people will still try to walk in and ask me 'Is there a class here right now ? '

Zacharee1

hi

Serg

I don't know if people are so much attention-less or just plain r8arded

cl-netbox

@Zacharee1 now it is one more ... :)

Byte Commander

@Serg Tell somebody that the door is freshly painted, and he will touch it. Tell him that the universe contains about 800 trillion stars, and he'll believe it immediately...

People just don't want to believe the easy stuff.

user139252

@Serg I need that plumbing fixed

cl-netbox

5:55 PM

@ByteCommander true words spoken ... :)

Serg

@TheBrownOne is content a variable ? or you actually looking for content string

Also your URL was unquoted . . .returned me error too

that curl line here | awk -F ':' 'NR == 1{gsub(/\"/,"");gsub(/\,/,"\n"); print $2}'

user139252

I forgot a " in the curl line D=

user139252

one second...

Zacharee1

@cl-netbox :D

user139252

6:10 PM

@Serg Fixed

Zacharee1

567 rep to 4k :p

cl-netbox

@Zacharee1 :D

user139252

@Serg That awk line just returns [{id

Serg

@TheBrownOne i clocked out for lunch. I'll fix it up once i get back

So you just need to extract the ip address, is that what I'm understanding ?

user136984

Though it's not how I felt this morning, I think that I will soon be rid of this flu... :)

user139252

6:17 PM

@Serg Yep.

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda Nice to hear this ! Good luck for getting rid of the rest fast ! :)

user139252

Seems like I can't use pipes when defining a variable from a function...

Zacharee1

I wonder if the downvoter on my answer is going to respond...

Terrance

@Zacharee1 What answer it that?

Zacharee1

@Terrance latest one. They left a comment saying what about it was wrong, I tried to argue my stance, didn't work, edited it, told them, no response

I've lost myself here: askubuntu.com/questions/731307/…

@Seth take down that sticky about 15.04

@Seth wait, nvm

didn't see it had been edited :p

Terrance

6:33 PM

@Zacharee1 I am looking.

user136984

@cl-netbox: I misread that the first time and thought you were telling me to get fat! :D

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda you are a panda...

:)

user136984

Yeah, so I'm already fat... :P

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda Does a flu make pandas getting fat ? :D

Terrance

@Zacharee1 I already +1 you on that answer yesterday. I guess I should have stuck around for the comments. I am thinking more and more I do not like UEFI for this reason.

Zacharee1

6:37 PM

Which reason? The timeout?

and thanks :D

Terrance

@Zacharee1 More for the removal of boot loaders which in my opinion means that you lose control because you have to go into the UEFI every time.

Maybe I am just old school

Zacharee1

<---- Confused

user136984

@cl-netbox: Maybe! :D

Terrance

@Zacharee1 Their comments seem more about not needing GRUB because of UEFI systems now. Your comment stating that a boot loader is required is the way that I think about it. But now even I get told that it is not required because UEFI.

cl-netbox

Hi @Terrance ! :)

Serg

6:41 PM

What does uefi do that doesn't require a boot loader ?

Terrance

@cl-netbox Hey! =)

cl-netbox

@Serg nothing ! :)

Zacharee1

@Terrance They should've made that clear. I was told in my comments that GRUB isn't necessary, not that a bootloader isn't necessary.

Terrance

@Zacharee1 As far as I can see, any of those, even EFISTUB is still a boot loader of some kind.

user139252

@Serg I made it better

Zacharee1

6:44 PM

It is, as Rod Smith pointed out under the bottom answer. underscore_d and Dolanor are going around, downvoting the other answers, because their stance is that a bootloader is not absolutely necessary. It looks like they are the ones who are incorrect :p

Wow that was an awkward statement

terdon

@Serg It has its own bootloader of sorts. UEFI systems don't need a bootloader. They can be booted by code in /boot/EFI or wherever you mount your EFI partition.

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne I have to zoom to 75% on my 1080p screen just to see the whole first curler line :p

user139252

It's the only way the API works :P

user139252

This script is going to be a hot mess of Python, but I don't mind.

terdon

> UEFI systems can access GPT disks and boot directly from them, which allows Linux to use UEFI boot methods. Booting Linux from GPT disks on UEFI systems involves creation of an EFI System partition (ESP), which contains UEFI applications such as bootloaders, operating system kernels, and utility software. Such a setup is usually referred to as UEFI-GPT, while ESP is recommended to be at least 512 MiB in size and formatted with a FAT32 filesystem for maximum compatibility.

Serg

6:46 PM

@TheBrownOne back from lunch . . . still need the plumbing fix ?

user139252

@Serg Nope, read my last ping

user139252

I decided to give up on Bash and just go with Python

Zacharee1

@terdon so EFI doesn't need a third-party bootloader, but it still needs something (its own)?

terdon

@Zacharee1 Something like that. I don't really understand the details so take what I say with a grain of salt. I di know that there is no need for an external bootloader though, yes.

Zacharee1

OK

So I don't see why those two think the distinction is so important. If I say GRUB isn't needed, then people using legacy boot will receive misinformation.

Terrance

6:49 PM

From my understanding, it is still a boot loader in some way or another. wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/…

user139252

Now I just need to work on getting all the information I need from the API, such as the other Zone IDs and record IDs....

user139252

But, once I get all of those, it'll mainly be just copy/pasting the same process and editing a few things

Terrance

@Zacharee1 One would think though, that if GRUB wasn't required for EFI, then why was it installed on his system to begin with? I am thinking his system might still boot with BIOS, instead of UEFI.

Serg

@TheBrownOne how's that

skolodya@ubuntu:$ ./plumbing 2>/dev/null | awk -F ':' '{gsub(/\,/,":");gsub(/\>
71.84.219.124

Complete line

./plumbing 2>/dev/null | awk -F ':' '{gsub(/\,/,":");gsub(/\"/,""); for(i=1;i<=NF;i++) {if($i ~ /content/) {print $(i+1);exit}}}'

Zacharee1

@Terrance no, GRUB installs no matter what. Some computers don't have the UEFI selection menu.

cl-netbox

6:55 PM

Goodbye :)

Serg

@cl-netbox good night

user139252

@Serg That does work... but I'm already halfway done with my Python script :P

Terrance

@Zacharee1 Unfortunately, I am not running any systems with UEFI, so I am no help there. I think I remember reading somewhere that GRUB would not come up on a host with UEFI, but I could be mistaken on that one.

cl-netbox

@Serg thanks - same for you ! :)

Terrance

@cl-netbox Good to see you again! Take care!

cl-netbox

6:56 PM

@Terrance Thank you very much ! See you next time - maybe tomorrow ... :)

Serg

@TheBrownOne meh, I've posted for the heck of it. I don't doubt python can do it better,faster,stronger :P

Terrance

@Zacharee1 I don't see where anyone has asked the OP if he is even running a system that has UEFI on it.

@cl-netbox Maybe tomorrow! =)

Serg

7:16 PM

I want to crawl into a hole and sleep till it's may . . . preferrably May 30th

user139252

@Zacharee1 How about this... I send you my script and you see if you know what I'm doing and write one for your own domain :P

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Q: When is the appropriate time to start Redshift using upstart?

I have been trying to get Redshift to start before login so that the bright welcome screen does not blind me, in particular when switching users. Running Redshift as a service does not seem fully supported (see e.g. this bug) but it seems to be possible in principle. After trying some things fo...

Nathan Osman

7:51 PM

Hi.

Today is a holiday in my province.

user139252

@NathanOsman o/

Nathan Osman

@TheBrownOne o/

user139252

Why does curl let me use https in command line, but not in a Python script?

user139252

Ah, I see

Nathan Osman

cURL in Python or urllib?

user139252

7:53 PM

There's an extra double quotes character

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman good for you. it sucks for me here, i'm stuck with a normal day

:P

Nathan Osman

@ThomasW. I wish the holiday was next week though, like the rest of the country. Our brilliant provincial government decided "hey, let's make it a week before the rest of the country!"

Thomas W.

heh

user139252

Didn't work...

user139252

This project is starting to irritate me...

Nathan Osman

7:58 PM

I don't think the Python libraries do proper TLS verification anyway.

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman so the fix for nitroshare's missing Ubuntu dependencies is in the sponsoring queue - though don't expect rapid response - reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring

Nathan Osman

@ThomasW. Thanks!

Seth

@NathanOsman well at least 1/10th of your country is still working next week? :p

Nathan Osman

@Seth That's one way of looking at it.

user139252

@NathanOsman Are you able to see what I'm trying to do?

user139252

8:02 PM

Wait, ddclient supports CloudFlare -_-

Nathan Osman

It looks like you're trying to determine if DNS records in CloudFlare are set to the same values that they locally resolve to.

Seth

insert clippy image

Thomas W.

slaps @Seth

Clippy Is Dead

Nathan Osman

@Seth I see what you did there.

user139252

I was trying to, basically, create my own ddclient for CloudFlare

user139252

8:04 PM

If my current IP didn't resolve to what CloudFlare had on file, update CloudFlare with the correct one

user139252

After migrating to CloudFlare... I cannot SSH in

Thomas W.

make sure the DNS that points to that server is set to NOT go through cloudflare

otherwise you torpedo the ability to get into the system, etc.

user139252

Got it

Zacharee1

There's someone next to me who does not know how to clear his throat. He keeps just breathing out quickly every second or so, and you can just hear the phlegm and it's getting annoying and I can't leave and you're welcome for that description.

kos

8:25 PM

@Serg Your flags :)

user136984

8:51 PM

When one submits feedback to Firefox using the feedback option in the menu, where exactly does that feedback go?

blade19899

Anybody got apache virtualhost's working on Ubuntu 15.10?

user139252

@blade19899 would you like me to try?

blade19899

> Setup Apache Virtual Hosts On Ubuntu 15.10 | Unixmen

I tried that, no luck. Permissino Denied

user139252

Which step are you getting that on?

blade19899

@TheBrownOne Last one.

user139252

9:01 PM

Exact command and output?

user139252

You're having trouble just editing your hosts file?

blade19899

@TheBrownOne Everything worked fine, just after completion of the steps, I get permission denied.

user139252

In the web browser?

user139252

try sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/html

user139252

Then, if you still want to modify things, you'll have to sudo useradd -G www-data YOURUSERNAME

Serg

9:05 PM

@kos my flags ? I didn't get it

user139252

@blade19899 Make sure you also did sudo chmod -R 755 /var/www/html

kos

@Serg There were two pending flags in Cyrillic (now long gone)

blade19899

@TheBrownOne Already did all those steps.

user139252

What's the output of ls -laF /var/www/html?

blade19899

> /home/USERNAME/public_html

Thats where my wen projects are

Serg

9:11 PM

cool, i ain't got time for them anyway :)

user139252

@blade19899 sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /home/USERNAME/public_html

blade19899

@TheBrownOne Yep. Did that.

user139252

ls -laF /home/USER/public_html/*

blade19899

Broweser keeps laggin. I'm calling it a night. Its late anyways. Gonna sleep on this issue, and hopefully, I'm gonna fix this tomorrow.

> www-data www-data

user139252

Fullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll output

user139252

9:15 PM

Put it into a paste if you have to.

blade19899

@TheBrownOne I have multiple files in that folder.

user139252

So?

blade19899

100 if not thousands.

files

user139252

So, put it in a paste.

user139252

I can read quickly.

user139252

9:17 PM

@Fabby Here is that picture you wanted.

blade19899

@TheBrownOne Who that?

user139252

@blade19899 Me.

blade19899

@TheBrownOne Nice.

user139252

Thank you.

kos

@TheBrownOne He changed his username to @dn-ʞɔɐqɹW

user139252

9:20 PM

Darn, that's right...

user139252

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/27430662#27430662

blade19899

Hold on, I think I found my problem. Yep, found it, I'm an idiot. That was my problem all along.

user136984

A new version of Firefox has just been released fixing many security issues.

user136984

So anyone else using Firefox here should upgrade it...

kos

(I vote to make him change his username back to Fabby, dn-ʞɔɐqɹW is untypeable)

user139252

9:22 PM

@Kos Agreed. Can we get a Meta question on it? :P

user139252

@James is lurking.

blade19899

> "Stremio is an application built with Electron that streams and plays movies, TV shows, Youtube channels, and TV channels, from torrents. Sounds familiar?" - Introducing Stremio, a More Complete and Powerful Popcorn Time Alternative

kos

@TheBrownOne You know what... :D

James

lurky lurk lurk lurk lurk

kos

After all it's about a problem with the site (ok, to some extent).

Serg

9:24 PM

I almost forgot how much i despise bode plots and laplace transform

James

what are people looking for?

Username changes?

nope

if the user regrets it, we can do it.

but we don't change it because it uses unicode and is untypeable. that's censorship.

kos

@James So we should make him regret it? :D

James

I mean, don't push them to do it

user139252

Heya Heather, I know you live near me at Miamisburg.
I want to meet you if you're still interested by me?

You can check my pictures there if you forgot me

t.co/HUPaN2TpCs



I wait your news!
Douglas Bell

user139252

I've never even been to Miamisburg!

James

9:28 PM

Yeah uh so pass on that

Seth

Jan 27 '15 at 22:37, by Fabby

@Seth: Could you please change me back to Fabby? (or will you make me wait for 30 days?) ;(

Jan 27 '15 at 22:29, by Fabby

@jrg: Please? Change me back as it doesn't seem to change in the chat room? :-)

James

Oh yeah

He regretted it last year!

blade19899

@TheBrownOne I get those too sometimes. Also, if a distant RICH relative died, and I inherited millions of Dollars... I'm from Holland xD

James

No, Fabby shall remain Unicode for the time being.

Seth

I'm still waiting on my Nigerian prince..

blade19899

9:29 PM

I raged a bit on linux.softpedia

> This message is too long

James

lol softpedia.

blade19899

That's how long I raged xD

user139252

I'll wait 30 days before I change again. The Brown One sounds a little demeaning when said out loud.

blade19899

I cut it in pieces

> No. The only reason I fully support the Ubuntu dev decisions to stick to and older release of Nautilus, is because new ones lack basic features. Who are they making Nautilus for? The noobs? The majority of Linux users know what they are doing, if not they learn. This pleases the minor percentage that are Ubuntu noobs. Which they wont be anymore in a few month. Nautilus - and gnome in general - has been slimmed down, for.. Well for who?

> Bring back features. Seriously. This joke has gone long enough.

LMAO!

Too mean?

James

@TheBrownOne Naming is hard.

Nathan Osman

9:32 PM

Sounds about right for Gnome.

James

Needs more SystemD

Seth

well. You are assuming noobs don't like features.

user139252

@James I'm thinking of changing to just Brigadoon.

Seth

2

James

2

(Thanks Giphy)

@Seth omg yes

blade19899

9:34 PM

LOL

Good night ya'all

James

Night!

Seth

> I have Ubuntu 15.10... So what exactly do I have here? Unstable Debian 8?

Nathan Osman

I just realized something cool about my chat app. It's written in Go and it needs to send email. Do I want an extra runtime dependency on Postfix? No, of course not. So... just import Hectane and presto! A built in SMTP client.

Seth

You have Ubuntu 15.10. — Seth ♦ 43 secs ago

kos

@James Ok, I would have gone for gently pointing out the issue, but I see I'll have to learn how to type ʞɔɐqɹ. :(

user139252

9:36 PM

@Kos just do a dn and his ping will pop-up.

Seth

@kos If you want to ping him @dn will bring him up.

kos

@TheBrownOne @Seth askubuntu.com/questions/361988/…. Just went for Fabby for laziness :) but anyway maybe he wouldn't have understand who I was referring to.

(however I'm half-joking, it's obviously not really a problem. Just teasing @dn-ʞɔɐqɹW a bit)

user139252

Where is he today?

Zacharee1

@kos no it isn't. The first letter is a lowercase D

user139252

@Zacharee1 Miss conversations much? :P

Zacharee1

9:47 PM

Yes

Pulling an @dn-ʞɔɐqɹW

:p

Schweigen..........

Silencio.............

Quiet.............

Serg

Does anyone here know how to do bode plots ? Or has a poison so I can end my suffering ?

Zacharee1

Wat

Serg

@Zacharee1 engineering students have something known as bode plots . . . graphing them is my major pain . . . i still have no idea what i am doing . . . and homework due in half hour

kos

10:09 PM

@Zacharee1 And what about ʞɔɐqɹ? Type it in less than 15 seconds. :P

(don't copy-paste it.)

user139252

@kos Are custom-made keyboards allowed?

user139252

I'm going to build an Rpi-Zero powered Unicode keyboard

kos

@TheBrownOne Hmmm... I'd say yes.

user139252

Also, my work as an explicit "Allow" rule on port 8080.

user139252

yay for VPN again :D

user139252

10:14 PM

Sweet!

user139252

Anyone here live near/enjoy Chipotle?

Zacharee1

I'm near a few, but I'm not sure if I want to go, after hearing about those food poisoning incidents

user139252

Just don't eat pork and you'll be fine :P

user139252

Text the word raincheck to 888222 to get a free burrito coupon.

Seth

@TheBrownOne me!

@TheBrownOne ooh! Is there an expiration on that?

user139252

10:23 PM

Not sure, coworker just told me about it. I tried it out, and it works.

James

10 days

Serg

I hate math . . . just . . . .some of it is . . .

too much

user136984

@Serg: Ah, but don't you like predicting the higher sub-sub-dimensions of shapes by getting their sub-sub-dimensions?

user136984

I used to do that as a sort of hobby...

user136984

:D

user136984

10:27 PM

I mean, it got more complicated than that, but that bit was nice.

user139252

@Zacharee1 @dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Your sites will be going down for a few, going to try some maintenance

user136984

@Serg: Ah, I see I have now scared you away with that... :P

user136984

Anyway, goodnight! :)

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

@Zacharee1 Huh?

I was filing a job application.

@TheBrownOne No worries: thanks for the heads-up.

Serg

@ParanoidPanda You haven't scared me . . . . I'm just not sure what to do . . . i'm late for class, the lady who asked me to watch over her stuff hasn't returned, AND my homework is carp . . .

user139252

10:38 PM

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Do you want HTTPS enabled?

Mateo

@TheBrownOne I go to qdoba ;)

user139252

@Mateo I don't have that around here, what is it?

user139252

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW No response means yes. You now have HTTPS support enabled.

user139252

Well, you will in a few minutes. Updating certs and what-not now.

Seth

@James so I have to use it in 10 days? hmm.

Zacharee1

10:54 PM

@TheBrownOne what sort of maintenance?

user139252

@Zacharee1 I was reducing the number of .conf files I had by making use of ServerAlias directives

user139252

Cloudflare seems to be creating issues with Let's Encrypt though

user139252

It's failing on the DNS look-ups

user139252

I think it's because the look-ups are getting the CloudFlare CDN IPs, which is causing it to fail the check to verify that I run the server

user139252

@Zacharee1 Turn "OFF" SSL in CloudFlare momentarily, please

Zacharee1

10:58 PM

@TheBrownOne ok hang on

@TheBrownOne off

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